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  Best way to make a digital music collection? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2015-03-20 22:10 -0700
    Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? christian150205@ghanart.org (Christian) - 2015-03-21 06:55 +0100
    Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-21 13:14 +0000
      Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-21 13:32 +0000
        Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-21 13:40 +0000
          Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-21 13:55 -0400
            Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-03-21 11:33 -0700
              Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-21 17:11 -0400
            Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-22 12:22 +0000
              Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-22 09:00 -0400
                Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-22 13:41 -0700
                  Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-22 17:27 -0400
                    Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-22 23:42 +0000
                      Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-22 21:15 -0400
                        Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-23 01:41 +0000
                        Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-23 18:19 +0000
              Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-03-22 20:23 -0600
                Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-23 02:28 +0000
      Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2015-03-22 12:45 -0700
        Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-22 15:57 -0400
        Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-22 21:51 +0000
        Re: Best way to make a digital music collection? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-22 23:40 +0000

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#28257 — Best way to make a digital music collection?

What's the best way to make a digital music collection?

I want to start buying songs from a 'streaming' service and be able to 
categorize the songs into different libraries and play them on my Mac 
and in the next room through my Airport Express and speakers there 
(which I use to play songs from Net radio stations.

I also want to be able to shuffle the songs.

And is it a good idea to store the collections in a 'cloud' so that it 
wouldn't take valuable space on my Mac and back-up drives?

And what's the best 'streaming' music service?  Spotify?

Tom Evans

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#28264

Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> I want to start buying songs from a 'streaming' service 

"Streaming" means, you pay for a one-time listening pleasure, not for a
file which is saved on your equipment. 

You can try out services like "last.fm" or "spotify" - but I cannot tell
anything ybout them since I don't use them.

Christian 


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#28268

On 2015-03-21, Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> What's the best way to make a digital music collection?

Purchase CDs and encode them digitally by importing them into iTunes, or
purchase songs / albums directly from the iTunes Store, and enjoy. : )

> I want to start buying songs from a 'streaming' service and be able to 
> categorize the songs into different libraries and play them on my Mac 
> and in the next room through my Airport Express and speakers there 
> (which I use to play songs from Net radio stations.

You can't obtain songs to keep from streaming services. You can think of
a streaming service as a "pay to listen" service where you basically rent
your music rather than purchase it to own it.

> I also want to be able to shuffle the songs.

Streaming services do basically shuffle in that rather than you picking
the play order, the service plays various songs in whatever order the
service chooses. If you want more control than that, then you want to
own your music instead. So you want to purchase to own from Apple's
iTunes library rather than stream your music.

> And is it a good idea to store the collections in a 'cloud' so that it 
> wouldn't take valuable space on my Mac and back-up drives?

iTunes Match is really cool for this sort of thing, because it looks at
all of the MP3/AAC/etc files you already own and then matches them with
equivalents in the iTunes Store (in the cloud), which makes all of them
instantly available on all computers and devices using iTunes Match.
Another benefit of iTunes Match is that it removes all advertising from
iTunes Radio, Apple's free music streaming service (similar to Pandora).

> And what's the best 'streaming' music service?  Spotify?

Maybe. I'm happy with iTunes Radio though. I switched from Pandora to
iTunes Radio a while back and am enjoying it. Since I use iTunes Match,
there are no ads. 

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#28269

On 2015-03-21, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> iTunes Match is really cool for this sort of thing, because it looks at
> all of the MP3/AAC/etc files you already own and then matches them with
> equivalents in the iTunes Store (in the cloud), which makes all of them
> instantly available on all computers and devices using iTunes Match.

To expand on this:

Once a song from the iTunes library on your computer has been matched by
iTunes Match, the song is available to you in the cloud. If you have
that song copied to any other computers or devices, you can delete the
song from those devices to save space, but can still play the song on
those devices from the cloud without them taking up space. For instance,
after I matched the iTunes library of music on my Mac Pro with iTunes
Match, I was able to delete tens of gigabytes of music from my iPhone
and turn on iTunes Match in Settings. After doing that, I have *much*
more free space available on my iPhone for other things; but I still
have access to all of that music as long as I have network connectivity.
When I play one of my songs on my iPhone, it just streams it from the
cloud to the device. If I want to store some music on the phone, I can
still do that as well. All in all, it's very handy.

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#28270

On 2015-03-21, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2015-03-21, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> iTunes Match is really cool for this sort of thing, because it looks at
>> all of the MP3/AAC/etc files you already own and then matches them with
>> equivalents in the iTunes Store (in the cloud), which makes all of them
>> instantly available on all computers and devices using iTunes Match.
>
> To expand on this:
>
> Once a song from the iTunes library on your computer has been matched by
> iTunes Match, the song is available to you in the cloud. If you have
> that song copied to any other computers or devices, you can delete the
> song from those devices to save space, but can still play the song on
> those devices from the cloud without them taking up space. For instance,
> after I matched the iTunes library of music on my Mac Pro with iTunes
> Match, I was able to delete tens of gigabytes of music from my iPhone
> and turn on iTunes Match in Settings. After doing that, I have *much*
> more free space available on my iPhone for other things; but I still
> have access to all of that music as long as I have network connectivity.
> When I play one of my songs on my iPhone, it just streams it from the
> cloud to the device. If I want to store some music on the phone, I can
> still do that as well. All in all, it's very handy.

Yet another benefit:

Apple doesn't care much about where the songs in your library came from
originally. If you have songs that you downloaded from some pirate site,
for instance, Apple will happily match those as well when you use iTunes
Match. Further, if you delete those songs from your library, and then
download them from the cloud, what you download is Apple's high-quality
version of the songs. This means you can effectively replace your
pirated music with pristine legitimate copies from Apple. ; )

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#28275

In article <cn5am2F64i7U9@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> Apple doesn't care much about where the songs in your library came from
> originally. If you have songs that you downloaded from some pirate site,
> for instance, Apple will happily match those as well when you use iTunes
> Match. Further, if you delete those songs from your library, and then
> download them from the cloud, what you download is Apple's high-quality
> version of the songs. This means you can effectively replace your
> pirated music with pristine legitimate copies from Apple. ; )

There are pristine pirated copies these days.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#28277

On 2015-03-21 17:55:28 +0000, Warren Oates said:

> In article <cn5am2F64i7U9@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> Apple doesn't care much about where the songs in your library came from
>> originally. If you have songs that you downloaded from some pirate site,
>> for instance, Apple will happily match those as well when you use iTunes
>> Match. Further, if you delete those songs from your library, and then
>> download them from the cloud, what you download is Apple's high-quality
>> version of the songs. This means you can effectively replace your
>> pirated music with pristine legitimate copies from Apple. ; )
> 
> There are pristine pirated copies these days.

And many more that are not.

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#28279

In article <201503211133028289-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2015-03-21 17:55:28 +0000, Warren Oates said:
> 
> > In article <cn5am2F64i7U9@mid.individual.net>,
> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Apple doesn't care much about where the songs in your library came from
> >> originally. If you have songs that you downloaded from some pirate site,
> >> for instance, Apple will happily match those as well when you use iTunes
> >> Match. Further, if you delete those songs from your library, and then
> >> download them from the cloud, what you download is Apple's high-quality
> >> version of the songs. This means you can effectively replace your
> >> pirated music with pristine legitimate copies from Apple. ; )
> > 
> > There are pristine pirated copies these days.
> 
> And many more that are not.

Okay.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#28288

On 2015-03-21, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <cn5am2F64i7U9@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Apple doesn't care much about where the songs in your library came from
>> originally. If you have songs that you downloaded from some pirate site,
>> for instance, Apple will happily match those as well when you use iTunes
>> Match. Further, if you delete those songs from your library, and then
>> download them from the cloud, what you download is Apple's high-quality
>> version of the songs. This means you can effectively replace your
>> pirated music with pristine legitimate copies from Apple. ; )
>
> There are pristine pirated copies these days.

I wouldn't know. The only pirated stuff I have anymore is from years
ago, given to me by friends and family. The overwhelming majority of my
music is encoded from CDs that I own or purchased from iTunes Store. And
even if pirated copies are high quality, iTunes Match effectively gives
you a way to replace them with 100% legitimate copies, as if you
purchased them from iTunes Store legally.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#28292

In article <cn7qg5Fpul6U2@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-03-21, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <cn5am2F64i7U9@mid.individual.net>,
> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Apple doesn't care much about where the songs in your library came from
> >> originally. If you have songs that you downloaded from some pirate site,
> >> for instance, Apple will happily match those as well when you use iTunes
> >> Match. Further, if you delete those songs from your library, and then
> >> download them from the cloud, what you download is Apple's high-quality
> >> version of the songs. This means you can effectively replace your
> >> pirated music with pristine legitimate copies from Apple. ; )
> >
> > There are pristine pirated copies these days.
> 
> I wouldn't know. The only pirated stuff I have anymore is from years
> ago, given to me by friends and family. The overwhelming majority of my
> music is encoded from CDs that I own or purchased from iTunes Store. And
> even if pirated copies are high quality, iTunes Match effectively gives
> you a way to replace them with 100% legitimate copies, as if you
> purchased them from iTunes Store legally.

I've never used iTunes except to sync up an old (very old) iPod. We only 
got the iPod because it was a free gift when we bought MacBook Pro. I 
keep my music as (mostly) flac on its own drive and managed with Kodi 
(XBMC as was).
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#28303

On 3/22/15   PDT 6:00 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <cn7qg5Fpul6U2@mid.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-03-21, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <cn5am2F64i7U9@mid.individual.net>,
>> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Apple doesn't care much about where the songs in your library came
>> from
>> >> originally. If you have songs that you downloaded from some pirate
>> site,
>> >> for instance, Apple will happily match those as well when you use
>> iTunes
>> >> Match. Further, if you delete those songs from your library, and then
>> >> download them from the cloud, what you download is Apple's
>> high-quality
>> >> version of the songs. This means you can effectively replace your
>> >> pirated music with pristine legitimate copies from Apple. ; )
>> >
>> > There are pristine pirated copies these days.
>>
>> I wouldn't know. The only pirated stuff I have anymore is from years
>> ago, given to me by friends and family. The overwhelming majority of my
>> music is encoded from CDs that I own or purchased from iTunes Store. And
>> even if pirated copies are high quality, iTunes Match effectively gives
>> you a way to replace them with 100% legitimate copies, as if you
>> purchased them from iTunes Store legally.
>
> I've never used iTunes except to sync up an old (very old) iPod. We only
> got the iPod because it was a free gift when we bought MacBook Pro. I
> keep my music as (mostly) flac on its own drive and managed with Kodi
> (XBMC as was).

Ever try media center (jriver.com)?

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#28307

In article <men9cs$r3m$2@dont-email.me>,
 John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 3/22/15   PDT 6:00 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
> > In article <cn7qg5Fpul6U2@mid.individual.net>,
> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-03-21, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > In article <cn5am2F64i7U9@mid.individual.net>,
> >> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Apple doesn't care much about where the songs in your library came
> >> from
> >> >> originally. If you have songs that you downloaded from some pirate
> >> site,
> >> >> for instance, Apple will happily match those as well when you use
> >> iTunes
> >> >> Match. Further, if you delete those songs from your library, and then
> >> >> download them from the cloud, what you download is Apple's
> >> high-quality
> >> >> version of the songs. This means you can effectively replace your
> >> >> pirated music with pristine legitimate copies from Apple. ; )
> >> >
> >> > There are pristine pirated copies these days.
> >>
> >> I wouldn't know. The only pirated stuff I have anymore is from years
> >> ago, given to me by friends and family. The overwhelming majority of my
> >> music is encoded from CDs that I own or purchased from iTunes Store. And
> >> even if pirated copies are high quality, iTunes Match effectively gives
> >> you a way to replace them with 100% legitimate copies, as if you
> >> purchased them from iTunes Store legally.
> >
> > I've never used iTunes except to sync up an old (very old) iPod. We only
> > got the iPod because it was a free gift when we bought MacBook Pro. I
> > keep my music as (mostly) flac on its own drive and managed with Kodi
> > (XBMC as was).
> 
> Ever try media center (jriver.com)?

Neve heard of it before. Looks interesting, but Kodi is free, as in free 
beer.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#28315

On 2015-03-22, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <men9cs$r3m$2@dont-email.me>,
>  John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Ever try media center (jriver.com)?
>
> Neve heard of it before. Looks interesting, but Kodi is free, as in free 
> beer.


So it iTunes. Home Sharing works great for sharing all of my content.

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#28325

In article <cn92b0F5ssnU9@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-03-22, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <men9cs$r3m$2@dont-email.me>,
> >  John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Ever try media center (jriver.com)?
> >
> > Neve heard of it before. Looks interesting, but Kodi is free, as in free 
> > beer.
> 
> 
> So it iTunes. Home Sharing works great for sharing all of my content.

Can you can you play 1080p movies over it onto a 50" tv? I know iTunes 
works well for music. I actually set it up about three years ago, for 
the sole purpose of using that cute screensaver that you can make with 
the album art.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#28327

On 2015-03-23, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <cn92b0F5ssnU9@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-03-22, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <men9cs$r3m$2@dont-email.me>,
>> >  John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ever try media center (jriver.com)?
>> >
>> > Neve heard of it before. Looks interesting, but Kodi is free, as in free 
>> > beer.
>> 
>> 
>> So it iTunes. Home Sharing works great for sharing all of my content.
>
> Can you can you play 1080p movies over it onto a 50" tv? I know iTunes 
> works well for music. I actually set it up about three years ago, for 
> the sole purpose of using that cute screensaver that you can make with 
> the album art.

Why not? I use it to stream 720p to a 42-inch television without issue
all the time.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#28336

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> was all, like:
> In article <cn92b0F5ssnU9@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>> On 2015-03-22, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <men9cs$r3m$2@dont-email.me>,
>> >  John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ever try media center (jriver.com)?
>> >
>> > Neve heard of it before. Looks interesting, but Kodi is free, as in free 
>> > beer.
>> 
>> 
>> So it iTunes. Home Sharing works great for sharing all of my content.

> Can you can you play 1080p movies over it onto a 50" tv?

Yes. I don't, but I *can*. Well, it's a 120" TV, not a 50", but that's
mere details.

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#28328

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> The only pirated stuff I have anymore is from years ago

So you're an *ex* pirate! I'll wager that bird on your shoulder is
nailed there. 

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#28329

On 2015-03-23, Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> The only pirated stuff I have anymore is from years ago
>
> So you're an *ex* pirate! I'll wager that bird on your shoulder is
> nailed there. 

...  : D

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#28299

On 2015-03-21 13:14:44 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2015-03-21, Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> What's the best way to make a digital music collection?
> 
>> And is it a good idea to store the collections in a 'cloud' so that it
>> wouldn't take valuable space on my Mac and back-up drives?
> 
> iTunes Match is really cool for this sort of thing, because it looks at
> all of the MP3/AAC/etc files you already own and then matches them with
> equivalents in the iTunes Store (in the cloud), which makes all of them
> instantly available on all computers and devices using iTunes Match.
> Another benefit of iTunes Match is that it removes all advertising from
> iTunes Radio, Apple's free music streaming service (similar to Pandora).

Thank you, Jolly.

I can't use Itunes Match because I don't have an Iphone, Ipad or Ipod 
Touch.  (I have an Ipod somewhere, but it's about a decade old, so I 
don't think it's a Touch model.)

Tom Evans

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#28300

In article <2015032212454340290-tomevans9890@yahoo.ca>, Tom Evans
<tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> I can't use Itunes Match because I don't have an Iphone, Ipad or Ipod 
> Touch.  (I have an Ipod somewhere, but it's about a decade old, so I 
> don't think it's a Touch model.)

itunes match does not require any of those.

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