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  Aperture trial versions Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 17:02 +0000
    Re: Aperture trial versions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-05 17:16 +0000
      Re: Aperture trial versions Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 21:10 +0100
        Re: Aperture trial versions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-05 21:41 +0000
    Re: Aperture trial versions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-05 13:16 -0400
    Re: Aperture trial versions Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-05 18:21 -0700
      Re: Aperture trial versions Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-08-06 12:11 -0400
        Re: Aperture trial versions android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-06 18:29 +0200
          Re: Aperture trial versions Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-08-06 19:41 -0400
            Re: Aperture trial versions android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-07 16:26 +0200
        Re: Aperture trial versions John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-08-06 16:08 -0700
        Re: Aperture trial versions {$PW$}@womar.co.uk (Paul Womar) - 2014-08-07 00:08 +0100
          Re: Aperture trial versions Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-08-06 19:54 -0400
            Re: Aperture trial versions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-06 22:52 -0400
              Re: Aperture trial versions Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> - 2014-08-07 20:05 +0100
                Re: Aperture trial versions <henry@att.net> - 2014-08-07 12:19 -0700
                  Re: Aperture trial versions John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-08-07 17:23 -0700
                    Re: Aperture trial versions Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> - 2014-08-08 17:18 +0100
                      Re: Aperture trial versions John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-08-08 17:00 -0700
        Re: Aperture trial versions Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-06 17:36 -0700

#23921 — Aperture trial versions

Is it still possible to download a trial version of Aperture or was that
option removed when it went to the MAS?

I know all about the end of life but wanted this for one specific purpose.
-- 
Cheers,

Steve

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#23922

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.sys.mac.apps.]
On 2014-08-05, Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it still possible to download a trial version of Aperture or was that
> option removed when it went to the MAS?
>
> I know all about the end of life but wanted this for one specific purpose.

<http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Aperture+trial&l=1>

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#23928

In article <c4chrdFd2u3U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.sys.mac.apps.]
> On 2014-08-05, Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is it still possible to download a trial version of Aperture or was that
> > option removed when it went to the MAS?
> >
> > I know all about the end of life but wanted this for one specific purpose.
> 
> <http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Aperture+trial&l=1>

Very helpful, thank you, led me to the answer I was after. At the time
I posted I was unable to google information easily. Apologies for
bothering you personally with a question rather than google it for
myself.

-- 
Cheers,

Steve

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#23930

On 2014-08-05, Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <c4chrdFd2u3U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.sys.mac.apps.]
>> On 2014-08-05, Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Is it still possible to download a trial version of Aperture or was that
>> > option removed when it went to the MAS?
>> >
>> > I know all about the end of life but wanted this for one specific purpose.
>> 
>> <http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Aperture+trial&l=1>
>
> Very helpful, thank you, led me to the answer I was after. At the time
> I posted I was unable to google information easily. Apologies for
> bothering you personally with a question rather than google it for
> myself.

Welcome, and no prob. : )

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#23923

In article
<1546188289428950905.881719hamrun-gmail.com@news.individual.net>, Steve
Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is it still possible to download a trial version of Aperture or was that
> option removed when it went to the MAS?

it's gone.

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#23939

On 2014-08-05 17:02:13 +0000, Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> said:

> Is it still possible to download a trial version of Aperture or was that
> option removed when it went to the MAS?
> 
> I know all about the end of life but wanted this for one specific purpose.

What specific purpose might that be?

Otherwise I suggest going to Lightroom 5 (you can get a 30 day trial for that).

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#23951

Steve Hodgson:
> > Is it still possible to download a trial version of Aperture or was that
> > option removed when it went to the MAS?

> > I know all about the end of life but wanted this for one specific purpose.

Savageduck:
> What specific purpose might that be?

> Otherwise I suggest going to Lightroom 5 (you can get a 30 day trial for that).

Gawd, don'cha hate it when people question your motives--in effect,
your competence to know what you want--and instead of answering your
question, they tell you what you *should* want?

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#23952

In article <060820141211053340%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> Steve Hodgson:
> > > Is it still possible to download a trial version of Aperture or was that
> > > option removed when it went to the MAS?
> 
> > > I know all about the end of life but wanted this for one specific 
> > > purpose.
> 
> Savageduck:
> > What specific purpose might that be?
> 
> > Otherwise I suggest going to Lightroom 5 (you can get a 30 day trial for 
> > that).
> 
> Gawd, don'cha hate it when people question your motives--in effect,
> your competence to know what you want--and instead of answering your
> question, they tell you what you *should* want?

Yes, and they should! Fighting ignorance is step one in the strive for 
freedom, democracy and peace... ;-p
-- 
teleportation kills
http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography

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#23964

Davoud:
> > Gawd, don'cha hate it when people question your motives--in effect,
> > your competence to know what you want--and instead of answering your
> > question, they tell you what you *should* want?

android:
> Yes, and they should! Fighting ignorance is step one in the strive for 
> freedom, democracy and peace... ;-p

You are right, of course. How could I forget the lessons of freedom,
democracy, and peace that we taught the Afghans and the Iraqis?

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#23981

In article <060820141941378189%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> You are right, of course. How could I forget the lessons of freedom,
> democracy, and peace that we taught the Afghans and the Iraqis?

Everybody's sitting under their olivetrees sipping their own wine....
-- 
teleportation kills
http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography

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#23962

On 8/6/14   PDT, 9:11 AM, Davoud wrote:
> Steve Hodgson:
>>> Is it still possible to download a trial version of Aperture or was that
>>> option removed when it went to the MAS?
>
>>> I know all about the end of life but wanted this for one specific purpose.
>
> Savageduck:
>> What specific purpose might that be?
>
>> Otherwise I suggest going to Lightroom 5 (you can get a 30 day trial for that).
>
> Gawd, don'cha hate it when people question your motives--in effect,
> your competence to know what you want--and instead of answering your
> question, they tell you what you *should* want?
>

When that happens, yes.

But often if a person states the underlying reason, other alternatives 
that might be quicker, better, stronger, cheaper, etc, may be revealed. 
Given the current tenor of usenet, probably not...sadly.

-- 
John McWilliams

I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm 
not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

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#23963

Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:

> Savageduck:
> > What specific purpose might that be?
> 
> > Otherwise I suggest going to Lightroom 5 (you can get a 30 day trial for
that).
> 
> Gawd, don'cha hate it when people question your motives--in effect,
> your competence to know what you want--and instead of answering your
> question, they tell you what you *should* want?

If you explain what your underlying requirements are then other people
may suggest alternative ways of them being met. If you ask for help,
people will try and be helpful and this may include trying to work out
what you really need and offering alternative suggestions. 
-- 
-> The email address used in this message *IS* valid <-

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#23965

Davoud:
> > Gawd, don'cha hate it when people question your motives--in effect,
> > your competence to know what you want--and instead of answering your
> > question, they tell you what you *should* want?

Paul Womar:
> If you explain what your underlying requirements are then other people
> may suggest alternative ways of them being met. If you ask for help,
> people will try and be helpful and this may include trying to work out
> what you really need and offering alternative suggestions.

Perhaps, but my point is that, prima facie, O.P. Steve Hodgson asked
where he could download a trial version of Aperture, and explained that
he understood that it was being discontinued, but that he wanted
Aperture for "one specific purpose."

That sounds to me like a man who has done his homework and knows what
he wants, and does not need to have his motives questioned and to be
told that he should try a different product. Instead, he deserves a
straightforward reply or none at all (which is what I gave him, because
I didn't know the answer to his question).

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#23974

In article <060820141954405120%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
wrote:

> > If you explain what your underlying requirements are then other people
> > may suggest alternative ways of them being met. If you ask for help,
> > people will try and be helpful and this may include trying to work out
> > what you really need and offering alternative suggestions.
> 
> Perhaps, but my point is that, prima facie, O.P. Steve Hodgson asked
> where he could download a trial version of Aperture, and explained that
> he understood that it was being discontinued, but that he wanted
> Aperture for "one specific purpose."
> 
> That sounds to me like a man who has done his homework and knows what
> he wants, and does not need to have his motives questioned and to be
> told that he should try a different product. Instead, he deserves a
> straightforward reply or none at all (which is what I gave him, because
> I didn't know the answer to his question).

maybe, but there isn't a trial anymore, so it would help to know what
that one specific purpose is so a solution can be found.

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#23988

On 2014-08-07 02:52:02 +0000, nospam said:

> In article <060820141954405120%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
> wrote:
> 
>>> If you explain what your underlying requirements are then other people
>>> may suggest alternative ways of them being met. If you ask for help,
>>> people will try and be helpful and this may include trying to work out
>>> what you really need and offering alternative suggestions.
>> 
>> Perhaps, but my point is that, prima facie, O.P. Steve Hodgson asked
>> where he could download a trial version of Aperture, and explained that
>> he understood that it was being discontinued, but that he wanted
>> Aperture for "one specific purpose."
>> 
>> That sounds to me like a man who has done his homework and knows what
>> he wants, and does not need to have his motives questioned and to be
>> told that he should try a different product. Instead, he deserves a
>> straightforward reply or none at all (which is what I gave him, because
>> I didn't know the answer to his question).
> 
> maybe, but there isn't a trial anymore, so it would help to know what
> that one specific purpose is so a solution can be found.

I have replied to that elsewhere. I have a colleague at work who wishes 
to create a photo book using the photos he has stored in iPhoto. BUT he 
also needs to be able to edit the aspect ration of the 'frames'. 
Aperture will do this and iPhoto will not.

I appreciate there are other photo book services available but I 
believe he is keen to go through Apple for this and who am I to argue?
-- 
Cheers,

Steve

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#23989

In article <c4i108FhnijU1@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hodgson
<hamrun@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2014-08-07 02:52:02 +0000, nospam said:
> 
> > In article <060820141954405120%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >>> If you explain what your underlying requirements are then other people
> >>> may suggest alternative ways of them being met. If you ask for help,
> >>> people will try and be helpful and this may include trying to work out
> >>> what you really need and offering alternative suggestions.
> >> 
> >> Perhaps, but my point is that, prima facie, O.P. Steve Hodgson asked
> >> where he could download a trial version of Aperture, and explained that
> >> he understood that it was being discontinued, but that he wanted
> >> Aperture for "one specific purpose."
> >> 
> >> That sounds to me like a man who has done his homework and knows what
> >> he wants, and does not need to have his motives questioned and to be
> >> told that he should try a different product. Instead, he deserves a
> >> straightforward reply or none at all (which is what I gave him, because
> >> I didn't know the answer to his question).
> > 
> > maybe, but there isn't a trial anymore, so it would help to know what
> > that one specific purpose is so a solution can be found.
> 
> I have replied to that elsewhere. I have a colleague at work who wishes 
> to create a photo book using the photos he has stored in iPhoto. BUT he 
> also needs to be able to edit the aspect ration of the 'frames'. 
> Aperture will do this and iPhoto will not.

With iPhoto's Crop tool you can set the ratio to what ever you want.
The ratio of the pictures in most Apple photo books are set by the
number of photographs on a page, and whether you select both horizontal
and/or vertical frames.

> 
> I appreciate there are other photo book services available but I 
> believe he is keen to go through Apple for this and who am I to argue?

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#23994

On 8/7/14   PDT, 12:19 PM, henry@att.net wrote:
> In article <c4i108FhnijU1@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hodgson
> <hamrun@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-08-07 02:52:02 +0000, nospam said:
>>
>>> In article <060820141954405120%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> If you explain what your underlying requirements are then other people
>>>>> may suggest alternative ways of them being met. If you ask for help,
>>>>> people will try and be helpful and this may include trying to work out
>>>>> what you really need and offering alternative suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps, but my point is that, prima facie, O.P. Steve Hodgson asked
>>>> where he could download a trial version of Aperture, and explained that
>>>> he understood that it was being discontinued, but that he wanted
>>>> Aperture for "one specific purpose."
>>>>
>>>> That sounds to me like a man who has done his homework and knows what
>>>> he wants, and does not need to have his motives questioned and to be
>>>> told that he should try a different product. Instead, he deserves a
>>>> straightforward reply or none at all (which is what I gave him, because
>>>> I didn't know the answer to his question).
>>>
>>> maybe, but there isn't a trial anymore, so it would help to know what
>>> that one specific purpose is so a solution can be found.
>>
>> I have replied to that elsewhere. I have a colleague at work who wishes
>> to create a photo book using the photos he has stored in iPhoto. BUT he
>> also needs to be able to edit the aspect ration of the 'frames'.
>> Aperture will do this and iPhoto will not.
>
> With iPhoto's Crop tool you can set the ratio to what ever you want.
> The ratio of the pictures in most Apple photo books are set by the
> number of photographs on a page, and whether you select both horizontal
> and/or vertical frames.



My point exactly, Davoud. Q.E.D.

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#24018

On 2014-08-08 00:23:50 +0000, John McWilliams said:

> On 8/7/14   PDT, 12:19 PM, henry@att.net wrote:
>> In article <c4i108FhnijU1@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hodgson
>> <hamrun@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2014-08-07 02:52:02 +0000, nospam said:
>>> 
>>>> In article <060820141954405120%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> If you explain what your underlying requirements are then other people
>>>>>> may suggest alternative ways of them being met. If you ask for help,
>>>>>> people will try and be helpful and this may include trying to work out
>>>>>> what you really need and offering alternative suggestions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps, but my point is that, prima facie, O.P. Steve Hodgson asked
>>>>> where he could download a trial version of Aperture, and explained that
>>>>> he understood that it was being discontinued, but that he wanted
>>>>> Aperture for "one specific purpose."
>>>>> 
>>>>> That sounds to me like a man who has done his homework and knows what
>>>>> he wants, and does not need to have his motives questioned and to be
>>>>> told that he should try a different product. Instead, he deserves a
>>>>> straightforward reply or none at all (which is what I gave him, because
>>>>> I didn't know the answer to his question).
>>>> 
>>>> maybe, but there isn't a trial anymore, so it would help to know what
>>>> that one specific purpose is so a solution can be found.
>>> 
>>> I have replied to that elsewhere. I have a colleague at work who wishes
>>> to create a photo book using the photos he has stored in iPhoto. BUT he
>>> also needs to be able to edit the aspect ration of the 'frames'.
>>> Aperture will do this and iPhoto will not.
>> 
>> With iPhoto's Crop tool you can set the ratio to what ever you want.
>> The ratio of the pictures in most Apple photo books are set by the
>> number of photographs on a page, and whether you select both horizontal
>> and/or vertical frames.
> 
> 
> 
> My point exactly, Davoud. Q.E.D.

No, very different. The reference to iPhoto's crop tool is referring to 
a separate operation on the photo in iPhoto to crop the photo. Aperture 
allow the frame used within the book to be edited to whatever aspect 
ratio is required. iPhoto books don't have the same sort of granularity.

I *know* there are lots of different ways to skin this particularly 
cat, I'm just trying to find out if it's possible to use the 
application my colleague asked my advice about.
-- 
Cheers,

Steve

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#24035

On 8/8/14   PDT, 9:18 AM, Steve Hodgson wrote:
> On 2014-08-08 00:23:50 +0000, John McWilliams said:
>
>> On 8/7/14   PDT, 12:19 PM, henry@att.net wrote:
>>> In article <c4i108FhnijU1@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hodgson
>>> <hamrun@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2014-08-07 02:52:02 +0000, nospam said:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <060820141954405120%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you explain what your underlying requirements are then other
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> may suggest alternative ways of them being met. If you ask for help,
>>>>>>> people will try and be helpful and this may include trying to
>>>>>>> work out
>>>>>>> what you really need and offering alternative suggestions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps, but my point is that, prima facie, O.P. Steve Hodgson asked
>>>>>> where he could download a trial version of Aperture, and explained
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> he understood that it was being discontinued, but that he wanted
>>>>>> Aperture for "one specific purpose."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That sounds to me like a man who has done his homework and knows what
>>>>>> he wants, and does not need to have his motives questioned and to be
>>>>>> told that he should try a different product. Instead, he deserves a
>>>>>> straightforward reply or none at all (which is what I gave him,
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> I didn't know the answer to his question).
>>>>>
>>>>> maybe, but there isn't a trial anymore, so it would help to know what
>>>>> that one specific purpose is so a solution can be found.
>>>>
>>>> I have replied to that elsewhere. I have a colleague at work who wishes
>>>> to create a photo book using the photos he has stored in iPhoto. BUT he
>>>> also needs to be able to edit the aspect ration of the 'frames'.
>>>> Aperture will do this and iPhoto will not.
>>>
>>> With iPhoto's Crop tool you can set the ratio to what ever you want.
>>> The ratio of the pictures in most Apple photo books are set by the
>>> number of photographs on a page, and whether you select both horizontal
>>> and/or vertical frames.
>>
>>
>>
>> My point exactly, Davoud. Q.E.D.
>
> No, very different. The reference to iPhoto's crop tool is referring to
> a separate operation on the photo in iPhoto to crop the photo. Aperture
> allow the frame used within the book to be edited to whatever aspect
> ratio is required. iPhoto books don't have the same sort of granularity.
>
> I *know* there are lots of different ways to skin this particularly cat,
> I'm just trying to find out if it's possible to use the application my
> colleague asked my advice about.

Sorry it didn't do what you want. But I think the point about inquiring 
what is the OP's ultimate goal stands.

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#23966

On 2014-08-06 16:11:05 +0000, Davoud <star@sky.net> said:

> Steve Hodgson:
>>> Is it still possible to download a trial version of Aperture or was that
>>> option removed when it went to the MAS?
> 
>>> I know all about the end of life but wanted this for one specific purpose.
> 
> Savageduck:
>> What specific purpose might that be?
> 
>> Otherwise I suggest going to Lightroom 5 (you can get a 30 day trial for that).
> 
> Gawd, don'cha hate it when people question your motives--in effect,
> your competence to know what you want--and instead of answering your
> question, they tell you what you *should* want?

Holy crap! Reaction man!

You might have noticed my first remark was a question asking just what 
it was Steve was trying to achieve with Aperture. The second part of my 
response was a suggestion not a directive to buy. I make no presumption 
as to Steve's need for Aperture.


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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