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| Started by | Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> |
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| First post | 2012-04-06 14:15 -0400 |
| Last post | 2012-04-08 13:56 -0400 |
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What is the secret to Download Xcode 4.3.2? Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2012-04-06 14:15 -0400
Re: What is the secret to Download Xcode 4.3.2? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2012-04-06 13:07 -0700
Re: What is the secret to Download Xcode 4.3.2? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-07 11:46 +1200
Re: What is the secret to Download Xcode 4.3.2? Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> - 2012-04-08 13:56 -0400
| From | Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> |
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| Date | 2012-04-06 14:15 -0400 |
| Subject | What is the secret to Download Xcode 4.3.2? |
| Message-ID | <bob-ECD2D8.14153006042012@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com> |
This must now be downloaded via the AppStore. I click Install and login but then nothing happens. What am I supposed to be doing that I am not doing?
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| From | Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> |
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| Date | 2012-04-06 13:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vilain-569798.13075506042012@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #9004 |
In article <bob-ECD2D8.14153006042012@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote: > This must now be downloaded via the AppStore. I click Install and login > but then nothing happens. What am I supposed to be doing that I am not > doing? I think you need 10.7 and an AppleID to download from the Apple Store. When I click on AppStore stuff, it creates an icon on my Dock and starts downloading. If that's not happening, try a free application and see if that works without problems. If it does, try installing from an Admin account. Xcode has to go into a bunch of special places and it needs Admin to do that. That's just a SWAG, but give it a go. -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee... [I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2012-04-07 11:46 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1ki6i14.bcbw8j144ltyN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #9009 |
Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > In article <bob-ECD2D8.14153006042012@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, > Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote: > > > This must now be downloaded via the AppStore. I click Install and login > > but then nothing happens. What am I supposed to be doing that I am not > > doing? > > I think you need 10.7 and an AppleID to download from the Apple Store. > When I click on AppStore stuff, it creates an icon on my Dock and starts > downloading. If that's not happening, try a free application and see if > that works without problems. > > If it does, try installing from an Admin account. Xcode has to go into > a bunch of special places and it needs Admin to do that. That's just a > SWAG, but give it a go. The App Store works in 10.6. However it's a stupid idea for free and bundled software, as it ties them into the same DRM and need to use an AppleID that bought software requires. For example - a client recently bought a new Mac, upgraded the bundled iApps (iPhoto, etc) when automatically prompted and they became DRMed. They then realised they no longer subscribed to .Mac/Me/whatever it is now and their login to App Store was myname@mac.com. Now yes they could have changed the primary email, but they didn't know that. They had no previous purchases through the App Store (they'd only tied their .mac email to the App store to download the Twitter app for free). They simply made a new AppleID using their current email. Then they got around to installing the free apps that are now App Store only that they require - Twitter, etc. That's when the problems began... First when iPhoto was updated again they had to sign out and sign in using their old AppleID - which they finally figured out after an AppleCare support call. But then Twitter was updated. They had to work out (they're very much a non-geek BTW) how to reverse the above and get signed in with the right AppleID. Finally after several frustrations like this they contacted me for help. I advised them (having had some painful experience here) to try to 'merge' AppleIDs <appleid.apple.com/> by (and boy was this more annoying than it had to be) creating a throwaway Gmail account, adding it to the new AppleID, making it the primary email contact, removing their current email as a contact (you can't have the same email as primary contact/AppleID for two AppleID accounts), abandoning (simply by ignoring) their new account, then adding their current email to their old .Mac AppleID, making it primary, and redownloading the free apps using it from the App Store. This would have worked... but it turned out one of their bundled apps was updated later using the newer now abandoned AppleID... and was now tied to that account. So my advice failed. The poor non-geek user was still stuck with his free apps in two accounts, and no obvious way to get the iApp unlocked from his new and now abandoned AppleID without reinstalling Lion!! Later AppleCare suggested he contact the App Store support via email to request a 'refund' for his free bundled iApp! They're now waiting to hear back on that... poor bastard! :-D Apple should NEVER EVER have allowed a situation where a non-geeky user could tie themselves in knots with FREE Apps by friggin' DRMing them! It's appallingly stupid. The ONLY situation where a free bundled should be DRMed by the App Store is if it's a paid upgrade. Till then it's upgrades should be handled by Software Update as was previously the case. One last thing - when I contacted AppleCare on behalf on this client the support person was audibly frustrated with the new system of the App Store taking bundled iApps hostage when they're updated. He said this was a problem for many users he'd assisted, and the only thing he could do was to suggest they contact App Store support using their refunds email, or reinstall Lion to free the iApps from being DRMed with the wrong AppleID account. Other than that he was powerless to help. What a stupid situation Apple has created. Beware Lion users. -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> |
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| Date | 2012-04-08 13:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <bob-CE1C1F.13562608042012@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com> |
| In reply to | #9009 |
In article <vilain-569798.13075506042012@news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > In article <bob-ECD2D8.14153006042012@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, > Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote: > > > This must now be downloaded via the AppStore. I click Install and login > > but then nothing happens. What am I supposed to be doing that I am not > > doing? > > I think you need 10.7 and an AppleID to download from the Apple Store. > When I click on AppStore stuff, it creates an icon on my Dock and starts > downloading. If that's not happening, try a free application and see if > that works without problems. > > If it does, try installing from an Admin account. Xcode has to go into > a bunch of special places and it needs Admin to do that. That's just a > SWAG, but give it a go. I don't have trouble downloading other apps, although the App Store insists I have updates I have previously installed. I am also the administrator on this computer and am on 10.7.3. My current version of Xcode is 4.2 and I have never been able to upgrade it.
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