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  Replacement for Lineform? Mirsky <not_my_email@invalid.email.com> - 2014-02-22 01:05 -0800
    Re: Replacement for Lineform? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-22 16:37 +0000
      Re: Replacement for Lineform? Mirsky <not_my_email@invalid.email.com> - 2014-02-22 12:02 -0800
        Re: Replacement for Lineform? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-22 20:45 +0000
    Re: Replacement for Lineform? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-22 11:42 -0500
      Re: Replacement for Lineform? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-22 17:07 +0000
        Re: Replacement for Lineform? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-22 12:20 -0500
          Re: Replacement for Lineform? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-22 20:45 +0000
    Re: Replacement for Lineform? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-22 16:55 +0000
      Re: Replacement for Lineform? Mirsky <not_my_email@invalid.email.com> - 2014-02-22 12:05 -0800
        Re: Replacement for Lineform? Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2014-02-25 14:12 +0000
          Re: Replacement for Lineform? Mirsky <not_my_email@invalid.email.com> - 2014-02-25 12:00 -0800

#21160 — Replacement for Lineform?

Hi. I use a vector drawing app called Lineform that still (thankfully) 
works under Mavericks. But its developer no longer supports the program.

I still use Lineform because it allows me to draw with "artistic 
strokes." Those strokes take into account the pressure of my graphics 
tablet and I can therefore create art with lines of varying width. I 
find drawings with artistic strokes look more natural and artistic. 
Again, these are vector drawings, not bitmap.

I've been waiting for another vector drawing program to come along with 
features similar to "artistic strokes," but so far I haven't found one. 
Other than Illustrator, which I think has something similar, but 
Illustrator is overkill and too expensive for my needs.

However, I'm posting here in case there is such a program with a 
feature similar to artistic strokes, and I've just not heard of it. I 
was fishing around in the Mac App Store but there are many apps in the 
Graphics and Design category so I thought I'd post here.

So, does anyone know if an app exists with a feature similar to 
artistic strokes?

Thanks.

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#21163

On 2014-02-22, Mirsky <not_my_email@invalid.email.com> wrote:
> Hi. I use a vector drawing app called Lineform that still (thankfully) 
> works under Mavericks. But its developer no longer supports the program.
>
> I still use Lineform because it allows me to draw with "artistic 
> strokes." Those strokes take into account the pressure of my graphics 
> tablet and I can therefore create art with lines of varying width. I 
> find drawings with artistic strokes look more natural and artistic. 
> Again, these are vector drawings, not bitmap.
>
> I've been waiting for another vector drawing program to come along with 
> features similar to "artistic strokes," but so far I haven't found one. 
> Other than Illustrator, which I think has something similar, but 
> Illustrator is overkill and too expensive for my needs.
>
> However, I'm posting here in case there is such a program with a 
> feature similar to artistic strokes, and I've just not heard of it. I 
> was fishing around in the Mac App Store but there are many apps in the 
> Graphics and Design category so I thought I'd post here.
>
> So, does anyone know if an app exists with a feature similar to 
> artistic strokes?

It's hard to beat Illustrator in terms of feature spread...

I see that Intaglio (among others) is listed as an alternative to
Lineforms on MacUpdate:

<https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/21229/lineform>

Have you given it a try? I use it occasionally. While it is very basic
in comparison with Illustrator, it gets the job done for lots of things. 

I also sometimes use OmniGraffle for certain types of vector stuff, but
it's more specialized towards flowcharts and so on.

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#21178

On 2014-02-22 16:37:03 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> I see that Intaglio (among others) is listed as an alternative to
> Lineforms on MacUpdate:

Yeah, I own an older version that I got in software bundle probanly 
five or six years ago. It doesn't support a graphics tablet and it 
allows for uniform stroke widths. And the newer version doesn't either; 
I've checked.

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#21183

On 2014-02-22, Mirsky <not_my_email@invalid.email.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-22 16:37:03 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> I see that Intaglio (among others) is listed as an alternative to
>> Lineforms on MacUpdate:
>
> Yeah, I own an older version that I got in software bundle probanly 
> five or six years ago. It doesn't support a graphics tablet and it 
> allows for uniform stroke widths. And the newer version doesn't either; 
> I've checked.

Ah, okay, Worth a shot!

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#21164

On 2014.02.22, 04:05 , Mirsky wrote:
> Hi. I use a vector drawing app called Lineform that still (thankfully)
> works under Mavericks. But its developer no longer supports the program.
>
> I still use Lineform because it allows me to draw with "artistic
> strokes." Those strokes take into account the pressure of my graphics
> tablet and I can therefore create art with lines of varying width. I
> find drawings with artistic strokes look more natural and artistic.
> Again, these are vector drawings, not bitmap.
>
> I've been waiting for another vector drawing program to come along with
> features similar to "artistic strokes," but so far I haven't found one.
> Other than Illustrator, which I think has something similar, but
> Illustrator is overkill and too expensive for my needs.
>
> However, I'm posting here in case there is such a program with a feature
> similar to artistic strokes, and I've just not heard of it. I was
> fishing around in the Mac App Store but there are many apps in the
> Graphics and Design category so I thought I'd post here.
>
> So, does anyone know if an app exists with a feature similar to artistic
> strokes?

I suspect inkscape is too underpowered for your needs?

I only answered this post to ask: Are you Mr. Anti-Gravity?  Always look 
forward to that.

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   people are not trained to perform.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

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#21167

On 2014-02-22, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.02.22, 04:05 , Mirsky wrote:
>> Hi. I use a vector drawing app called Lineform that still (thankfully)
>> works under Mavericks. But its developer no longer supports the program.
>>
>> I still use Lineform because it allows me to draw with "artistic
>> strokes." Those strokes take into account the pressure of my graphics
>> tablet and I can therefore create art with lines of varying width. I
>> find drawings with artistic strokes look more natural and artistic.
>> Again, these are vector drawings, not bitmap.
>>
>> I've been waiting for another vector drawing program to come along with
>> features similar to "artistic strokes," but so far I haven't found one.
>> Other than Illustrator, which I think has something similar, but
>> Illustrator is overkill and too expensive for my needs.
>>
>> However, I'm posting here in case there is such a program with a feature
>> similar to artistic strokes, and I've just not heard of it. I was
>> fishing around in the Mac App Store but there are many apps in the
>> Graphics and Design category so I thought I'd post here.
>>
>> So, does anyone know if an app exists with a feature similar to artistic
>> strokes?
>
> I suspect inkscape is too underpowered for your needs?

Not to mention clunky as hell. I find Inkskape rather distasteful for a
Mac application.

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#21169

On 2014.02.22, 12:07 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2014-02-22, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2014.02.22, 04:05 , Mirsky wrote:
>>> Hi. I use a vector drawing app called Lineform that still (thankfully)
>>> works under Mavericks. But its developer no longer supports the program.
>>>
>>> I still use Lineform because it allows me to draw with "artistic
>>> strokes." Those strokes take into account the pressure of my graphics
>>> tablet and I can therefore create art with lines of varying width. I
>>> find drawings with artistic strokes look more natural and artistic.
>>> Again, these are vector drawings, not bitmap.
>>>
>>> I've been waiting for another vector drawing program to come along with
>>> features similar to "artistic strokes," but so far I haven't found one.
>>> Other than Illustrator, which I think has something similar, but
>>> Illustrator is overkill and too expensive for my needs.
>>>
>>> However, I'm posting here in case there is such a program with a feature
>>> similar to artistic strokes, and I've just not heard of it. I was
>>> fishing around in the Mac App Store but there are many apps in the
>>> Graphics and Design category so I thought I'd post here.
>>>
>>> So, does anyone know if an app exists with a feature similar to artistic
>>> strokes?
>>
>> I suspect inkscape is too underpowered for your needs?
>
> Not to mention clunky as hell. I find Inkskape rather distasteful for a
> Mac application.

It's X11 which I wouldn't really categorize as "Mac" (it's also 
available for Linux and Windows).

I could use inkscape for several things except for the irksome lack of 
scale settings.  I have used it to map some business models, basic 
system ideas and so on.  Clumsy.

Visio is nice (Windows, though) for many things.

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    for the services these companies offer.  What they really
    want is to have us "on the leash."
                   -David Pogue, Scientific American, 2014.02

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#21182

On 2014-02-22, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.02.22, 12:07 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2014-02-22, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2014.02.22, 04:05 , Mirsky wrote:
>>>> Hi. I use a vector drawing app called Lineform that still (thankfully)
>>>> works under Mavericks. But its developer no longer supports the program.
>>>>
>>>> I still use Lineform because it allows me to draw with "artistic
>>>> strokes." Those strokes take into account the pressure of my graphics
>>>> tablet and I can therefore create art with lines of varying width. I
>>>> find drawings with artistic strokes look more natural and artistic.
>>>> Again, these are vector drawings, not bitmap.
>>>>
>>>> I've been waiting for another vector drawing program to come along with
>>>> features similar to "artistic strokes," but so far I haven't found one.
>>>> Other than Illustrator, which I think has something similar, but
>>>> Illustrator is overkill and too expensive for my needs.
>>>>
>>>> However, I'm posting here in case there is such a program with a feature
>>>> similar to artistic strokes, and I've just not heard of it. I was
>>>> fishing around in the Mac App Store but there are many apps in the
>>>> Graphics and Design category so I thought I'd post here.
>>>>
>>>> So, does anyone know if an app exists with a feature similar to artistic
>>>> strokes?
>>>
>>> I suspect inkscape is too underpowered for your needs?
>>
>> Not to mention clunky as hell. I find Inkskape rather distasteful for a
>> Mac application.
>
> It's X11 which I wouldn't really categorize as "Mac" (it's also 
> available for Linux and Windows).

Yeah, that is a big contributor to the clunky aspect of it. 

> I could use inkscape for several things except for the irksome lack of 
> scale settings.  I have used it to map some business models, basic 
> system ideas and so on.  Clumsy.

Exactly. It's just not very polished.

> Visio is nice (Windows, though) for many things.

Definitely. Too bad there's no Mac version.

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#21165

In message <2014022201052424437-notmyemail@invalidemailcom> 
  Mirsky <not_my_email@invalid.email.com> wrote:
> I've been waiting for another vector drawing program to come along with 
> features similar to "artistic strokes," but so far I haven't found one. 
> Other than Illustrator, which I think has something similar, but 
> Illustrator is overkill and too expensive for my needs.

<https://www.google.com/search?q=vector+drawing+os+x+tablet+pressure>

Skitch
iDraw
Inkscape
Photoshop Elements
ArtRage
Sketchbook Pro

And many, many others (possibly including Blender and Google SketchUp).

Inskscape is free, so no harm trying it. The rest are under $100.

<http://inkscape.org/en/>

> However, I'm posting here in case there is such a program with a 
> feature similar to artistic strokes, and I've just not heard of it. I 
> was fishing around in the Mac App Store but there are many apps in the 
> Graphics and Design category so I thought I'd post here.

> So, does anyone know if an app exists with a feature similar to 
> artistic strokes?

What you are looking for is apps that support graphics tablets. Calling
them 'artistic strokes' is not going to do well on searching.

-- 
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ends.

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#21179

On 2014-02-22 16:55:57 +0000, Lewis said:

> In message <2014022201052424437-notmyemail@invalidemailcom>
>> 
> 
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=vector+drawing+os+x+tablet+pressure>
> 
> Skitch
> iDraw
> Inkscape
> Photoshop Elements
> ArtRage
> Sketchbook Pro


Thanks. I do own Photoshop Elements and ArtRage, but they aren't vector 
progams. I wil look at the others you mentioned.


> 
>> 
> 
> What you are looking for is apps that support graphics tablets. Calling
> them 'artistic strokes' is not going to do well on searching.

Yea, I understand other programs don't use the term "artistic strokes." 
I just mentioned them for clarity in my Usenet post.

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#21204

On 22/02/2014 20:05, Mirsky wrote:

> Thanks. I do own Photoshop Elements and ArtRage, but they aren't vector
> progams. I wil look at the others you mentioned.

I can certainly recommend iDraw in general as being the closest 
cheap-ish thing to Inkscape that I've found (not that I really mind 
using Inkscape either, as I use various X11 desktops in my day job), but 
although I use a tablet myself I don't recall off-hand whether it allows 
for pressure-sensitive strokes.

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#21209

On 2014-02-25 14:12:07 +0000, Calum said:

> On 22/02/2014 20:05, Mirsky wrote:
> 
>> Thanks. I do own Photoshop Elements and ArtRage, but they aren't vector
>> progams. I wil look at the others you mentioned.
> 
> I can certainly recommend iDraw in general as being the closest 
> cheap-ish thing to Inkscape that I've found (not that I really mind 
> using Inkscape either, as I use various X11 desktops in my day job), 
> but although I use a tablet myself I don't recall off-hand whether it 
> allows for pressure-sensitive strokes.

I emailed the makers of IDraw. I was told that they don't support 
tablets right now, but they will in the future.

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