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  Remote backup software supporting SFTP? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-27 22:25 +0000
    Re: Remote backup software supporting SFTP? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-28 17:31 +1300
      Re: Remote backup software supporting SFTP? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-28 15:26 +0000
        Re: Remote backup software supporting SFTP? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-28 16:49 +0000
          Re: Remote backup software supporting SFTP? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-28 17:08 +0000
    Re: Remote backup software supporting SFTP? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-27 22:15 -0800
      Re: Remote backup software supporting SFTP? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-28 15:29 +0000

#20768 — Remote backup software supporting SFTP?

Anyone here using a Mac remote backup solution that supports SFTP
transfers? (I'm considering ChronoSync, but don't see SFTP specifically
mentioned on their web site.)

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#20779

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> Anyone here using a Mac remote backup solution that supports SFTP
> transfers? (I'm considering ChronoSync, but don't see SFTP specifically
> mentioned on their web site.)

I have Chronosync (via a bundle) but haven't used it in anger. I can't
see any mention of support for FTP or derivatives. Its remote
connections require running ChronoAgent on the other computer.

Somewhat tangential, but it might be a useful tool in this case:

Scooter Software has Beyond Compare from version 4 in beta, which adds
native Mac OS X support. The Pro version of Beyond Compare 3 and 4
supports SFTP/FTPS.

http://www.scootersoftware.com/beta.php (new stuff in version 4)

http://www.scootersoftware.com/moreinfo.php (wider background, covering
version 3)

I've been using Beyond Compare 3 (and 2 prior to that) to do folder and
file comparisons and 3-way merge for software development on Windows. It
also has folder sync and can be scripted to automate tasks, but I
haven't used those particular features (yet).

If used for backups, it probably wouldn't be able to go as far as a full
computer backup, but should be sufficient for backing up folders for the
currently logged in user (where permissions won't be an issue).

The folder sync feature has modes to update just the left folder, just
the right folder, update both, mirror to left or mirror to right. The
"update" modes copy newer and orphan files/folders to the other side.
The "mirror" modes also delete files which no longer exist at the
source.

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#20785

On 2014-01-28, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone here using a Mac remote backup solution that supports SFTP
>> transfers? (I'm considering ChronoSync, but don't see SFTP specifically
>> mentioned on their web site.)
>
> I have Chronosync (via a bundle) but haven't used it in anger. I can't
> see any mention of support for FTP or derivatives. Its remote
> connections require running ChronoAgent on the other computer.
>
> Somewhat tangential, but it might be a useful tool in this case:
>
> Scooter Software has Beyond Compare from version 4 in beta, which adds
> native Mac OS X support. The Pro version of Beyond Compare 3 and 4
> supports SFTP/FTPS.
>
> http://www.scootersoftware.com/beta.php (new stuff in version 4)
>
> http://www.scootersoftware.com/moreinfo.php (wider background, covering
> version 3)
>
> I've been using Beyond Compare 3 (and 2 prior to that) to do folder and
> file comparisons and 3-way merge for software development on Windows. It
> also has folder sync and can be scripted to automate tasks, but I
> haven't used those particular features (yet).
>
> If used for backups, it probably wouldn't be able to go as far as a full
> computer backup, but should be sufficient for backing up folders for the
> currently logged in user (where permissions won't be an issue).
>
> The folder sync feature has modes to update just the left folder, just
> the right folder, update both, mirror to left or mirror to right. The
> "update" modes copy newer and orphan files/folders to the other side.
> The "mirror" modes also delete files which no longer exist at the
> source.

Thanks, David. The more I look, the more I am convinced to just roll my
own...

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#20789

In message <bkq0i2FgicgU1@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-01-28, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone here using a Mac remote backup solution that supports SFTP
>>> transfers? (I'm considering ChronoSync, but don't see SFTP specifically
>>> mentioned on their web site.)
>>
>> I have Chronosync (via a bundle) but haven't used it in anger. I can't
>> see any mention of support for FTP or derivatives. Its remote
>> connections require running ChronoAgent on the other computer.
>>
>> Somewhat tangential, but it might be a useful tool in this case:
>>
>> Scooter Software has Beyond Compare from version 4 in beta, which adds
>> native Mac OS X support. The Pro version of Beyond Compare 3 and 4
>> supports SFTP/FTPS.
>>
>> http://www.scootersoftware.com/beta.php (new stuff in version 4)
>>
>> http://www.scootersoftware.com/moreinfo.php (wider background, covering
>> version 3)
>>
>> I've been using Beyond Compare 3 (and 2 prior to that) to do folder and
>> file comparisons and 3-way merge for software development on Windows. It
>> also has folder sync and can be scripted to automate tasks, but I
>> haven't used those particular features (yet).
>>
>> If used for backups, it probably wouldn't be able to go as far as a full
>> computer backup, but should be sufficient for backing up folders for the
>> currently logged in user (where permissions won't be an issue).
>>
>> The folder sync feature has modes to update just the left folder, just
>> the right folder, update both, mirror to left or mirror to right. The
>> "update" modes copy newer and orphan files/folders to the other side.
>> The "mirror" modes also delete files which no longer exist at the
>> source.

> Thanks, David. The more I look, the more I am convinced to just roll my
> own...

Why wouldn’t you simply use rsync (or rsnapshot with rsync)?

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#20790

On 2014-01-28, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <bkq0i2FgicgU1@mid.individual.net> 
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-01-28, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone here using a Mac remote backup solution that supports SFTP
>>>> transfers? (I'm considering ChronoSync, but don't see SFTP specifically
>>>> mentioned on their web site.)
>>>
[snip]
>
>> Thanks, David. The more I look, the more I am convinced to just roll my
>> own...
>
> Why wouldn’t you simply use rsync (or rsnapshot with rsync)?

Laziness. : ) I'm only asking what solutions others may be using. I very
well may end up doing just that.

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#20781

In article <bko4mrF4mn5U1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> Anyone here using a Mac remote backup solution that supports SFTP
> transfers? (I'm considering ChronoSync, but don't see SFTP specifically
> mentioned on their web site.)

how well does sftp detect changed files?  Looking the sftp manpage, it 
doesn't mention any way to send a file if it's changed, just get and 
put.  That's fine if your "backups" are just remote copies rather than 
sending files if they've changed.

rsync or rdist on older systems is the usual backup tool. if all you 
want to do is push copies of files regardless of their changed status, 
then sftp scripts are probably a better, cost-free solution.

If you want to synch folders using sftp, ftp, WebDav, and the cloud on 
Google, Amazon or Rackspace, this might be a better fit (and about the 
same price).

https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/2747/interarchy

Personally, I use backuplist+ to synchronize folders.  It's free and 
uses rsync.

https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/21413/backuplist%2b

If you absolutely must use sftp from a GUI tool, Interarchy will do it. 
Otherwise, I think you're stuck using whatever transport mechanism for 
connectivity that the backup package implements.

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#20786

On 2014-01-28, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <bko4mrF4mn5U1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone here using a Mac remote backup solution that supports SFTP
>> transfers? (I'm considering ChronoSync, but don't see SFTP specifically
>> mentioned on their web site.)
>
> how well does sftp detect changed files?  Looking the sftp manpage, it 
> doesn't mention any way to send a file if it's changed, just get and 
> put.  That's fine if your "backups" are just remote copies rather than 
> sending files if they've changed.

That's basically all I want: a copy. But I ant to be able to use a
remote host that only offers me SFTP access. I'll probably end up
rolling my own.

> rsync or rdist on older systems is the usual backup tool. if all you 
> want to do is push copies of files regardless of their changed status, 
> then sftp scripts are probably a better, cost-free solution.

Exactly.

Thanks for the deets.

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