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  MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-16 10:13 +0000
    Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-17 09:50 +1100
      Re: MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 00:19 +0000
        Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-18 11:37 +1100
        Re: MailForge dead "R. Millstein" <usenet@spamaway.rlm.net> - 2014-01-18 15:06 -0800
          Re: MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-18 23:43 +0000
            Re: MailForge dead "R. Millstein" <usenet@spamaway.rlm.net> - 2014-01-18 16:45 -0800
            Re: MailForge dead Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-01-18 20:31 -0500
              Re: MailForge dead "R. Millstein" <usenet@spamaway.rlm.net> - 2014-01-19 09:33 -0800
            Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-20 15:45 +1100
              Re: MailForge dead Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-22 08:56 +0000
                Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-23 01:42 +1100
                  Re: MailForge dead Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-22 15:23 +0000
                    Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-23 09:56 +1100
                  Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 16:26 +0000
                    Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-23 10:02 +1100
                      Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 23:19 +0000
                Re: MailForge dead richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg) - 2014-01-23 20:03 +0000
                Re: MailForge dead Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-23 18:19 -0500
                Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-06-18 15:55 +1000
                  Re: MailForge dead Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-06-18 19:53 -0700
                    Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-19 02:58 +0000
                      Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-19 03:14 +0000
                      Re: MailForge dead Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-06-18 22:45 -0700
                        Re: MailForge dead billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-19 10:34 +0000
                          Re: MailForge dead Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-06-19 21:18 -0700
                            Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-20 16:13 +0000
                        Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-19 16:02 +0000
                          Re: MailForge dead Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-06-19 21:20 -0700
                            Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-20 16:15 +0000
        Re: MailForge dead cvb@compuserve.com - 2014-01-31 00:56 -0800
          Re: MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-31 10:08 +0000
      Re: MailForge dead peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) - 2014-01-17 07:23 +0000
        Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-18 11:50 +1100
          Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-18 11:52 +1100
          Re: MailForge dead peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) - 2014-01-19 10:39 +0000
          Re: MailForge dead kmorgan@spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) - 2014-01-21 13:57 -0900
        Re: MailForge dead kmorgan@spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) - 2014-01-21 13:57 -0900
        Re: MailForge dead Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-01-31 10:33 +0100
          Re: MailForge dead Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-31 12:37 +0000
            Re: MailForge dead Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-01-31 21:16 +0100
              Re: MailForge dead Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-01 17:02 +0000
                Re: MailForge dead Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-02 00:12 +0100
      Re: MailForge dead dont.spam.usenet@googlemail.com (Hauke Fath) - 2014-01-17 14:37 +0100
        Re: MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 15:21 +0000
          Re: MailForge dead dont.spam.usenet@googlemail.com (Hauke Fath) - 2014-01-17 19:03 +0100
            Re: MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 18:59 +0000
              Re: MailForge dead dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2014-01-18 10:48 +0000
                Re: MailForge dead Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-18 13:12 -0800
                  Re: MailForge dead nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 16:45 -0500
                    Re: MailForge dead snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2014-02-03 22:46 +0000

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#20449 — MailForge dead

It would appear that MailForge, a possible Eudora replacement under
development since late 2007, is now officially dead. This according to
a post from the lead developer.

The current owners are willing to pass the codebase on to another
outfit as a potential business or make it available as an open source
type of project.

I'm not entirely surprised. The project changed hands 18 months ago
after being given up on by the original author, who clearly had little
programming experience. I suspect it was a mess internally and needed
to be scrapped and restarted from scratch, rather than bodged around
with.

Meanwhile there is a working client with a number of Eudora features to
be found here, which may suit some people:

<http://www.clothears.org.uk>

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#20456

In article <160120141013101700%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> I'm not entirely surprised. The project changed hands 18 months ago
> after being given up on by the original author, who clearly had little
> programming experience. I suspect it was a mess internally and needed
> to be scrapped and restarted from scratch, rather than bodged around
> with.

I have to say though that I am not sure Matt Milano or even Mike 
realised fully what they were letting themselves in for. Or in fact had 
much experience with a large project like this.

I guess we are all going to have to pick something from the current crop 
of mail programs to move to. It's not an experience I am looking forward 
to. I have been using Apple Mail in parallel with Eudora in a Parallels 
virtual machine (Snow Leopard). Mail is usable like this, but 
frustrating in so many ways.

It would actually be tolerable to continue using Eudora in a virtual 
machine - it's just like having it in a screen space. What is a pain 
though is handling attachments - getting received ones to the host, and 
attaching files on the host to outgoing messages. I end up sometimes 
installing apps on the virtual machine and opening the attachments 
there, although this is a pain and sometimes doesn't work anyway. :-(

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#20459

In article <davidmor-E7F46F.09500917012014@news.internode.on.net>,
David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:

> In article <160120141013101700%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > I'm not entirely surprised. The project changed hands 18 months ago
> > after being given up on by the original author, who clearly had little
> > programming experience. I suspect it was a mess internally and needed
> > to be scrapped and restarted from scratch, rather than bodged around
> > with.
> 
> I have to say though that I am not sure Matt Milano or even Mike 
> realised fully what they were letting themselves in for. Or in fact had 
> much experience with a large project like this.
> 
> I guess we are all going to have to pick something from the current crop 
> of mail programs to move to. It's not an experience I am looking forward 
> to. I have been using Apple Mail in parallel with Eudora in a Parallels 
> virtual machine (Snow Leopard). Mail is usable like this, but 
> frustrating in so many ways.
> 
> It would actually be tolerable to continue using Eudora in a virtual 
> machine - it's just like having it in a screen space. What is a pain 
> though is handling attachments - getting received ones to the host, and 
> attaching files on the host to outgoing messages. I end up sometimes 
> installing apps on the virtual machine and opening the attachments 
> there, although this is a pain and sometimes doesn't work anyway. :-(

I run a VirtualBox (free) VM with Win7 in it so I can run Publisher. I
don't know how it works in Parallels, but in VirtualBox you can
designate a Mac folder as a shared folder and it appears as a drive (E:
on my Win7 setup). So moving files back and forth is not too hard but
tedious.

Mike has locked all the MF forums which is irritating as people can't
discuss what the options there are and I can't mention my offering. 

Still, at least Maxim now has an answer to his persistent questions
about when there will be a version of MF that can do this, that, and
the other. Answer: when hell freezes over.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#20481

In article <170120140019278392%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> I run a VirtualBox (free) VM with Win7 in it so I can run Publisher. I
> don't know how it works in Parallels, but in VirtualBox you can
> designate a Mac folder as a shared folder and it appears as a drive (E:
> on my Win7 setup). So moving files back and forth is not too hard but
> tedious.

Same in Parallels, although it is a bit flakey at times. VMware was 
worse, but maybe the latest version has fixed its problems. 
Unfortunately, OS X as a virtual machine is not well supported by 
either, compared to the Windows support. For example, you can drag files 
into and out of the window of a Windows VM, but you cannot for a Mac VM. 
For Windows, you can open a Mac file using a windows app, and vice versa 
I think. This would be great for Eudora, but sadly not implemented.

I suppose you could run Windows Eudora this way, and it would behave 
just like an OS X app except for the windows looking different.

> Mike has locked all the MF forums which is irritating as people can't
> discuss what the options there are and I can't mention my offering. 

Yes, unfortunate. I suppose he anticipated lots of abuse, and was 
probably right. Especially from the people who actually paid for 
Mailforge but got nothing usable.

> Still, at least Maxim now has an answer to his persistent questions
> about when there will be a version of MF that can do this, that, and
> the other. Answer: when hell freezes over.

Hahaha

It was hard not to be skeptical. I don't think either Matt Milano or 
Mike really had any idea of the scope of the project they took on. Nor 
really of how to run a huge software project like this. So Mike took 
over a seemingly doable product and found it to be a can of worms. Once 
the serious problems became apparent, he would probably have been better 
to abandon the stuff he got from Matt and rewrite it all from scratch.

So that leaves you, Tim, as one of the very few authors of a real mail 
program. :-)

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#20498

In article <170120140019278392%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> Mike has locked all the MF forums which is irritating as people can't
> discuss what the options there are and I can't mention my offering. 

Someone started up a Facebook page awhile back; not sure how many people 
actually look at it, but I just posted a link to the official 
announcement of MF's death and a link to your program as well.

https://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora

Roberta
-- 
Roberta Millstein
usenet@spamaway.rlm.net
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#20499

In article <usenet-8214C4.15060118012014@free.teranews.com>, R.
Millstein <usenet@spamaway.rlm.net> wrote:

> In article <170120140019278392%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> > Mike has locked all the MF forums which is irritating as people can't
> > discuss what the options there are and I can't mention my offering. 
> 
> Someone started up a Facebook page awhile back; not sure how many people 
> actually look at it, but I just posted a link to the official 
> announcement of MF's death and a link to your program as well.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora

Thanks for that. However, I don't do facebook, one look at their Ts&Cs
was enough.

-- 
"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
 lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores 
 the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them
 into it in the first place."                             - Douglas Adams

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#20500

In article <180120142343428924%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <usenet-8214C4.15060118012014@free.teranews.com>, R.
> Millstein <usenet@spamaway.rlm.net> wrote:
> 
> > In article <170120140019278392%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
> >  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > Mike has locked all the MF forums which is irritating as people can't
> > > discuss what the options there are and I can't mention my offering. 
> > 
> > Someone started up a Facebook page awhile back; not sure how many people 
> > actually look at it, but I just posted a link to the official 
> > announcement of MF's death and a link to your program as well.
> > 
> > https://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora
> 
> Thanks for that. However, I don't do facebook, one look at their Ts&Cs
> was enough.

:)
-- 
Roberta Millstein
usenet@spamaway.rlm.net
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#20501

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 23:43:42 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
declaimed the following:


>Thanks for that. However, I don't do facebook, one look at their Ts&Cs
>was enough.

	Ah yes... I don't use Facebook, Twitter, nor LinkedIn -- none of them
seem to offer anything except high network traffic as everything is web
page after web page...
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#20514

In article <ohamd99eaukjp500jjbckehbk0ucvuu02u@4ax.com>,
 Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 23:43:42 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
> declaimed the following:
> 
> 
> >Thanks for that. However, I don't do facebook, one look at their Ts&Cs
> >was enough.
> 
> 	Ah yes... I don't use Facebook, Twitter, nor LinkedIn -- none of them
> seem to offer anything except high network traffic as everything is web
> page after web page...

I use Facebook (not Twitter or LinkedIn) to more easily connect with 
colleagues, friends, and family who I'd otherwise have trouble keeping 
in touch with.  I respect those who don't for privacy reasons.  In this 
case, though (talking about Eudora replacements), posting to Facebook is 
a way of reaching more people, because as I'm sure you've all noticed, 
not that many people are on Usenet anymore.  :)  In this case, it was 
probably of limited utility since the Facebook page was pretty dead.  
So, the basic point still remains that we lost, and lack, a more 
accessible place to discuss these issues.
-- 
Roberta Millstein
usenet@spamaway.rlm.net
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#20540

In article <180120142343428924%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> Thanks for that. However, I don't do facebook, one look at their Ts&Cs
> was enough.

I have a low profile Facebook account. I hardly ever post anything, and 
when I do, it is as restricted as it is possible to do. Nothing of 
consequence in my settings. Allows me to see what people are doing as 
Roberta said.

And I check it once a week or less.

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#20616

In message <davidmor-7E8F72.15455220012014@news.internode.on.net> 
  David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:
> In article <180120142343428924%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

>> Thanks for that. However, I don't do facebook, one look at their Ts&Cs
>> was enough.

> I have a low profile Facebook account. I hardly ever post anything, and 
> when I do, it is as restricted as it is possible to do. Nothing of 
> consequence in my settings. Allows me to see what people are doing as 
> Roberta said.

> And I check it once a week or less.

The trouble is that Facebook tracks you all over the web if you have an
account, so just HAVING one is a selling your soul to Facebook.

-- 
'Witches just aren't like that,' said Magrat. 'We live in harmony with
the great cycles of Nature, and do no harm to anyone, and it's wicked of
them to say we don't. We ought to fill their bones with hot lead.'

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#20621

In article <slrnldv1u4.1891.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <davidmor-7E8F72.15455220012014@news.internode.on.net> 
>   David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:
> > In article <180120142343428924%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
> >  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> >> Thanks for that. However, I don't do facebook, one look at their Ts&Cs
> >> was enough.
> 
> > I have a low profile Facebook account. I hardly ever post anything, and 
> > when I do, it is as restricted as it is possible to do. Nothing of 
> > consequence in my settings. Allows me to see what people are doing as 
> > Roberta said.
> 
> > And I check it once a week or less.
> 
> The trouble is that Facebook tracks you all over the web if you have an
> account, so just HAVING one is a selling your soul to Facebook.

Have a look at this plugin, available for Safari and others:

http://disconnect.me

"Disconnect lets you visualize & block the invisible websites that track 
you"

I have ben using it for several months and it works as advertised. The 
only problem was a site that, with my agreement, wanted to post an item 
to my Facebook feed. It wouldn't let it!

But that can be overridden on an individual page basis if necessary. But 
otherwise, they just have to guess what I am doing.

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#20622

In message <davidmor-FF039E.01424123012014@news.internode.on.net> 
  David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnldv1u4.1891.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <davidmor-7E8F72.15455220012014@news.internode.on.net> 
>>   David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:
>> > In article <180120142343428924%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
>> >  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> 
>> >> Thanks for that. However, I don't do facebook, one look at their Ts&Cs
>> >> was enough.
>> 
>> > I have a low profile Facebook account. I hardly ever post anything, and 
>> > when I do, it is as restricted as it is possible to do. Nothing of 
>> > consequence in my settings. Allows me to see what people are doing as 
>> > Roberta said.
>> 
>> > And I check it once a week or less.
>> 
>> The trouble is that Facebook tracks you all over the web if you have an
>> account, so just HAVING one is a selling your soul to Facebook.

> Have a look at this plugin, available for Safari and others:

> http://disconnect.me

The irony that that page has, right there in the upper right, Facebook
and Twitter icons, is overwhelming.

-- 
"A politician is a man who approaches every problem with an open mouth."

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#20643

In article <slrnldvojd.1gl2.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> > http://disconnect.me
> 
> The irony that that page has, right there in the upper right, Facebook
> and Twitter icons, is overwhelming.

Hahahaha. That's a good laugh for the day.

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#20629

On 2014-01-22, David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnldv1u4.1891.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>> In message <davidmor-7E8F72.15455220012014@news.internode.on.net> 
>>   David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:
>> > In article <180120142343428924%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
>> >  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> 
>> >> Thanks for that. However, I don't do facebook, one look at their Ts&Cs
>> >> was enough.
>> 
>> > I have a low profile Facebook account. I hardly ever post anything, and 
>> > when I do, it is as restricted as it is possible to do. Nothing of 
>> > consequence in my settings. Allows me to see what people are doing as 
>> > Roberta said.
>> 
>> > And I check it once a week or less.
>> 
>> The trouble is that Facebook tracks you all over the web if you have an
>> account, so just HAVING one is a selling your soul to Facebook.
>
> Have a look at this plugin, available for Safari and others:
>
> http://disconnect.me
>
> "Disconnect lets you visualize & block the invisible websites that track 
> you"
>
> I have ben using it for several months and it works as advertised. The 
> only problem was a site that, with my agreement, wanted to post an item 
> to my Facebook feed. It wouldn't let it!
>
> But that can be overridden on an individual page basis if necessary. But 
> otherwise, they just have to guess what I am doing.

To each, their own, of course; but I prefer DoNotTrackMe, since it does
the same thing and is compatible with more web browsers. Also, I've read
Disconnect.me is more resource intensive than DoNotTrackMe.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#20644

In article <bka9oqF6jn8U5@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> To each, their own, of course; but I prefer DoNotTrackMe, since it does
> the same thing and is compatible with more web browsers. Also, I've read
> Disconnect.me is more resource intensive than DoNotTrackMe.

As far as I can see, DoNotTrackMe is spam blocking. That is a completely 
different thing to blocking trackers on web pages.

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#20645

On 2014-01-22, David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:
> In article <bka9oqF6jn8U5@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> To each, their own, of course; but I prefer DoNotTrackMe, since it does
>> the same thing and is compatible with more web browsers. Also, I've read
>> Disconnect.me is more resource intensive than DoNotTrackMe.
>
> As far as I can see, DoNotTrackMe is spam blocking. That is a completely 
> different thing to blocking trackers on web pages.

Not sure what gives you that idea. While Abine, the maker, does have
tools to help prevent spam, DoNotTrackMe has the same basic features as
Disconnect.me, including preventing web sites from tracking you as you
surf the web:

<https://www.abine.com/donottrackme/faq/>

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#20652

In article <slrnldv1u4.1891.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
Lewis  <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>In message <davidmor-7E8F72.15455220012014@news.internode.on.net> 
>  David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:
>> In article <180120142343428924%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
>>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>
>>> Thanks for that. However, I don't do facebook, one look at their Ts&Cs
>>> was enough.
>
>> I have a low profile Facebook account. I hardly ever post anything, and 
>> when I do, it is as restricted as it is possible to do. Nothing of 
>> consequence in my settings. Allows me to see what people are doing as 
>> Roberta said.
>
>> And I check it once a week or less.
>
>The trouble is that Facebook tracks you all over the web if you have an
>account, so just HAVING one is a selling your soul to Facebook.

Verily, verily.....
Also keep in mind that on a "free" service such as Facebook, YOU are not
the customer.  You are the product being sold to the customers who are
the advertisers on FB.

-- 
Rich Greenberg  Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com  + 1 941 378 2097
Eastern time.  N6LRT  I speak for myself & my dogs only.    VM'er since CP-67
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On 2014.01.22, 03:56 , Lewis wrote:

> The trouble is that Facebook tracks you all over the web if you have an
> account, so just HAVING one is a selling your soul to Facebook.


Take heart:

http://io9.com/researchers-predict-facebook-will-die-out-like-a-disea-1506843703

( I doubt it will happen for a variety of reasons - but there is hope).

-- 
“Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.”
                                                   - Mike Tyson

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#23042

In article <slrnldv1u4.1891.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <davidmor-7E8F72.15455220012014@news.internode.on.net> 
>   David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:
> > In article <180120142343428924%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
> >  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> >> Thanks for that. However, I don't do facebook, one look at their Ts&Cs
> >> was enough.
> 
> > I have a low profile Facebook account. I hardly ever post anything, and 
> > when I do, it is as restricted as it is possible to do. Nothing of 
> > consequence in my settings. Allows me to see what people are doing as 
> > Roberta said.
> 
> > And I check it once a week or less.
> 
> The trouble is that Facebook tracks you all over the web if you have an
> account, so just HAVING one is a selling your soul to Facebook.

Just reviving this old thread....

Look at a plugin called Disconnect that disables all those things that 
call home. Quite astonishing to see how many tracking things there are 
on the average page.

https://disconnect.me

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