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  Last Thoth? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-09 07:19 -0700
    Re: Last Thoth? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-09 15:46 +0000
      Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 09:49 -0600
        Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 13:40 -0600
          Re: Last Thoth? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-09 14:46 -0500
            Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 13:52 -0600
              Re: Last Thoth? Guenther Fischer <never@spam.invalid> - 2013-12-09 21:09 +0100
                Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 14:16 -0600
            Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-09 13:25 -0800
          Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-09 13:24 -0800
          Re: Last Thoth? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-09 13:25 -0800
            Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 15:36 -0600
              Re: Last Thoth? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-09 16:40 -0500
                Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 15:50 -0600
                  Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-10 10:00 -0800
            Re: Last Thoth? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-09 19:01 -0700
    Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-09 07:50 -0800
      Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-10 03:00 -0500
        Re: Last Thoth? A N Niel <anniel@nym.alias.net.invalid> - 2013-12-10 09:19 -0700
          Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-10 12:40 -0600
        Re: Last Thoth? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-10 12:22 -0500
        Re: Last Thoth? Doc O'Leary <droleary@7usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-12-10 11:55 -0600
          Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-10 21:59 -0500
            Re: Last Thoth? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-11 05:12 +0000
        Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-10 10:02 -0800
        Re: Last Thoth? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2013-12-14 16:25 -0500
    Re: Last Thoth? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-09 09:08 -0800
      Re: Last Thoth? "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-12-09 19:58 +0100
      Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-19 12:50 +0000
        Re: Last Thoth? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-19 08:44 -0500
          Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-19 14:06 +0000
            Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 17:31 -0600
              Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-20 01:48 +0000
                Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 20:12 -0600
                  Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-20 02:35 +0000
                    Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 20:40 -0600
                      Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-20 02:53 +0000
                        Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 20:58 -0600
                          Re: Last Thoth? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2013-12-19 19:27 -0800
                            Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 21:49 -0600
                              Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-19 22:49 -0800
                        Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-19 22:48 -0800
                          Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-20 07:56 -0600
                            Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-20 07:26 -0800
                      Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-20 15:24 -0500
                        Re: Last Thoth? "Mr. Strat" <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> - 2013-12-21 06:43 -0800
                          Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-21 10:48 -0500
                            Re: Last Thoth? Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-21 10:44 -0600
                              Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-21 12:34 -0500
                            Re: Last Thoth? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-21 19:33 +0000
                          Re: Last Thoth? Charles <fort514@mac.com> - 2013-12-21 22:25 -0500
                  Re: Last Thoth? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-20 11:34 -0500
                    Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-20 11:01 -0600
        Re: Last Thoth? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-19 15:00 +0000
        Re: Last Thoth? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-19 10:30 -0800
          Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-19 10:32 -0800
    Re: Last Thoth? Guenther Fischer <never@spam.invalid> - 2013-12-09 18:53 +0100
      Re: Last Thoth? "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-12-09 19:50 +0100
        Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-09 13:04 -0800
          Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-10 03:03 -0500
    Re: Last Thoth? Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2013-12-09 13:40 -0500
    Re: Last Thoth? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2013-12-09 18:36 -0800
      Re: Last Thoth? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-09 20:13 -0700
        Re: Last Thoth? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2013-12-09 19:22 -0800

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#19862

In article <101220130300545432%nospam.m-m@ny.more>, M-M
<nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:

> I find it so odd that there were so few who bought Thoth after
> Mavericks killed MT-NW. I was so happy to find Thoth and jumped right
> on board. 

so few bother with usenet. 

> Brian has been exceptional in providing support and fixes. 
> 
> I guess there aren't many usenet users anymore.

definitely not.

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#19863

In article <101220130300545432%nospam.m-m@ny.more>,
 M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:

> I find it so odd that there were so few who bought Thoth after
> Mavericks killed MT-NW.

I don't.  Usenet readership is nothing compared to social networks.

> I was so happy to find Thoth and jumped right
> on board. 

And I paid for Thoth long ago (2001).  After I sent in some feedback, 
Brian threw a fit and just issued me a refund with me even 
asking/wanting one.

> Brian has been exceptional in providing support and fixes. 

If he's not moody anymore, I don't see anything exceptional about his 
approach to software development.  Right now, it looks like he gave 
Thoth one last shot at being successful, but MT-NW dying isn't enough 
when the market isn't there for alternatives.

> I guess there aren't many usenet users anymore.

Not ones that will pay for client software, anyway.  And it doesn't help 
that ISPs no longer consider it a core service (hell, my current ISP 
doesn't even offer an email account, never mind web or usenet servers).

-- 
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My personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, localhost, googlegroups.com, theremailer.net,
    and probably your server, too.

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#19870

In article <droleary-950AE3.11553410122013@news.eternal-september.org>,
Doc O'Leary <droleary@7usenet2013.subsume.com> wrote:

> > I guess there aren't many usenet users anymore.
> 
> Not ones that will pay for client software, anyway.  And it doesn't help 
> that ISPs no longer consider it a core service 

I think it is related to the major ISP's eliminating the alt.binaries.*
groups.

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#19871

In message <101220132159152412%nospam.m-m@ny.more> 
  M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:
> In article <droleary-950AE3.11553410122013@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Doc O'Leary <droleary@7usenet2013.subsume.com> wrote:

>> > I guess there aren't many usenet users anymore.
>> 
>> Not ones that will pay for client software, anyway.  And it doesn't help 
>> that ISPs no longer consider it a core service 

> I think it is related to the major ISP's eliminating the alt.binaries.*
> groups.

The major ISPs eliminated the * groups, not just the alt.* or
alt.binaries.* groups.

-- 
'Why are our people going out there?' said Mr Boggis of the Thieves'
Guild. 'Because they are showing a brisk pioneering spirit and seeking
wealth and... additional wealth in a new land,' said Lord Vetinari.
'What's in it for the Klatchians?' said Lord Downey.  'Oh, they've gone
out there because they are a bunch of unprincipled opportunists always
ready to grab something for nothing,' said Lord Vetinari. [...] The
Patrician looked down again at his notes. 'Oh, I do beg your pardon,' he
said. 'I seem to have read those last two sentences in the wrong order.

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#19865

On 2013-12-10 08:00:54 +0000, M-M said:

> I guess there aren't many usenet users anymore.

It's an every diminishing pool.

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#19903

In article <101220130300545432%nospam.m-m@ny.more>,
 M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:

> I find it so odd that there were so few who bought Thoth after
> Mavericks killed MT-NW.

Some of us can't run Mavericks.

> I guess there aren't many usenet users anymore.

Even when ISPs provided it, users were only 10%. Now that ISPs don't do 
Usenet any more, there's you, me & a few others. :/
-- 
Malcolm
MT-NW user
-- 
Malcolm

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#19827

In article <091220130719558666%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In the email announcing Thoth 1.9.1.2, there appeared this sentence: 
> "Please also note that this is the final Thoth Announcements mailing."
> 
> The download, unlike previous updates, was not password protected.
> 
> Also, the Thoth web page ends with this paragraph:
> 
> "Thanks to everyone who registered Thoth over the years, and to all who
> offered constructive criticism, encouragement, ideas for improvements,
> and help in their own way. Special thanks to the few who re-registered,
> to Drew D. Saur for hosting Thoth downloads for so many years, and to
> Jean-Pierre Kuypers for both hosting Thoth and the long hours he spent
> providing French localization for Thoth."
> 
> Sounds to me as if Brian has stopped working on the software.

When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't 
add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't 
support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between 
marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got 
tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with him.  
He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I think 
he's just off his meds.

Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And now 
he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have people 
just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.

-- 
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#19831

In article (Dans l'article)
<vilain-9F02F8.09082309122013@news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain
<vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote (écrivait) :

> When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't 
> add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't 
> support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between 
> marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him. 


That's weird.

I'm on his list to receive the "Thoth Announcements" of new versions
and updates, and was always well informed (I think).

-- 
Jean-Pierre Kuypers

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#19974

On 2013-12-09, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>
> When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't 
> add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't 
> support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between 
> marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got 
> tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with him.  
> He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I think 
> he's just off his meds.
>
> Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And now 
> he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have people 
> just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.

Sooner or later? Brian's asshat behavior got old for me long ago, and
I'm not even one of his customers. We can ignore the question of whether
he hijacked NewsWatcher source code to build Thoth. He's pulled this
kind of cry baby "software isn't paying for itself" shit before in the
past. I don't see the behavior changing. So I say fuck Thoth. Good
riddance.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#19975

In article <bhg8cmF6uafU2@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2013-12-09, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> >
> > When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't 
> > add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't 
> > support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between 
> > marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got 
> > tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with him.  
> > He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I think 
> > he's just off his meds.
> >
> > Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And now 
> > he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have people 
> > just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.
> 
> Sooner or later? Brian's asshat behavior got old for me long ago, and
> I'm not even one of his customers. We can ignore the question of whether
> he hijacked NewsWatcher source code to build Thoth. He's pulled this
> kind of cry baby "software isn't paying for itself" shit before in the
> past. I don't see the behavior changing. So I say fuck Thoth. Good
> riddance.

How old is this guy now?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
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#19976

On 2013-12-19, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <bhg8cmF6uafU2@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2013-12-09, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't 
>> > add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't 
>> > support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between 
>> > marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got 
>> > tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with him.  
>> > He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I think 
>> > he's just off his meds.
>> >
>> > Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And now 
>> > he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have people 
>> > just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.
>> 
>> Sooner or later? Brian's asshat behavior got old for me long ago, and
>> I'm not even one of his customers. We can ignore the question of whether
>> he hijacked NewsWatcher source code to build Thoth. He's pulled this
>> kind of cry baby "software isn't paying for itself" shit before in the
>> past. I don't see the behavior changing. So I say fuck Thoth. Good
>> riddance.
>
> How old is this guy now?

No idea. But when software development is more about making money than
having fun, it's time to stop writing software, IMO. Dude should find
another hobby.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#19982

On 2013-12-19 14:06:19 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2013-12-19, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <bhg8cmF6uafU2@mid.individual.net>,
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2013-12-09, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't
>>>> add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't
>>>> support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between
>>>> marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got
>>>> tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with him.
>>>> He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I think
>>>> he's just off his meds.
>>>> 
>>>> Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And now
>>>> he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have people
>>>> just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.
>>> 
>>> Sooner or later? Brian's asshat behavior got old for me long ago, and
>>> I'm not even one of his customers. We can ignore the question of whether
>>> he hijacked NewsWatcher source code to build Thoth. He's pulled this
>>> kind of cry baby "software isn't paying for itself" shit before in the
>>> past. I don't see the behavior changing. So I say fuck Thoth. Good
>>> riddance.
>> 
>> How old is this guy now?
> 
> No idea. But when software development is more about making money than
> having fun, it's time to stop writing software, IMO. Dude should find
> another hobby.

Some like to have fun making money.

And hopefully you two are finished with this round of the 'I hate Brian' crap!

-- 
Lloyd

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#19983

On 2013-12-19, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> On 2013-12-19 14:06:19 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> On 2013-12-19, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In article <bhg8cmF6uafU2@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2013-12-09, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't
>>>>> add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't
>>>>> support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between
>>>>> marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got
>>>>> tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with him.
>>>>> He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I think
>>>>> he's just off his meds.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And now
>>>>> he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have people
>>>>> just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.
>>>> 
>>>> Sooner or later? Brian's asshat behavior got old for me long ago, and
>>>> I'm not even one of his customers. We can ignore the question of whether
>>>> he hijacked NewsWatcher source code to build Thoth. He's pulled this
>>>> kind of cry baby "software isn't paying for itself" shit before in the
>>>> past. I don't see the behavior changing. So I say fuck Thoth. Good
>>>> riddance.
>>> 
>>> How old is this guy now?
>> 
>> No idea. But when software development is more about making money than
>> having fun, it's time to stop writing software, IMO. Dude should find
>> another hobby.
>
> Some like to have fun making money.

I never said you couldn't have fun making money. Apparently you didn't
comprehend what I said. Read it again, and pay closer attention this
time. 

> And hopefully you two are finished with this round of the 'I hate Brian' crap!

Are you Brian's mom or something? What do you care what people think
about him?

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#19984

On 2013-12-20 01:48:22 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2013-12-19, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>> On 2013-12-19 14:06:19 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> On 2013-12-19, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <bhg8cmF6uafU2@mid.individual.net>,
>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-12-09, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't
>>>>>> add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't
>>>>>> support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between
>>>>>> marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got
>>>>>> tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with him.
>>>>>> He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I think
>>>>>> he's just off his meds.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And now
>>>>>> he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have people
>>>>>> just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sooner or later? Brian's asshat behavior got old for me long ago, and
>>>>> I'm not even one of his customers. We can ignore the question of whether
>>>>> he hijacked NewsWatcher source code to build Thoth. He's pulled this
>>>>> kind of cry baby "software isn't paying for itself" shit before in the
>>>>> past. I don't see the behavior changing. So I say fuck Thoth. Good
>>>>> riddance.
>>>> 
>>>> How old is this guy now?
>>> 
>>> No idea. But when software development is more about making money than
>>> having fun, it's time to stop writing software, IMO. Dude should find
>>> another hobby.
>> 
>> Some like to have fun making money.
> 
> I never said you couldn't have fun making money. Apparently you didn't
> comprehend what I said. Read it again, and pay closer attention this
> time.
> 
>> And hopefully you two are finished with this round of the 'I hate Brian' crap!
> 
> Are you Brian's mom or something? What do you care what people think
> about him?

In reality I don't care.

What I do care about is the bitch-a-thon that usually starts and goes 
on and on ad nauseum whenever Brian's name comes up.

-- 
Lloyd

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#19985

On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> On 2013-12-20 01:48:22 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> On 2013-12-19, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>> On 2013-12-19 14:06:19 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>>> 
>>>> On 2013-12-19, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <bhg8cmF6uafU2@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2013-12-09, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't
>>>>>>> add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't
>>>>>>> support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between
>>>>>>> marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got
>>>>>>> tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with him.
>>>>>>> He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I think
>>>>>>> he's just off his meds.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And now
>>>>>>> he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have people
>>>>>>> just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sooner or later? Brian's asshat behavior got old for me long ago, and
>>>>>> I'm not even one of his customers. We can ignore the question of whether
>>>>>> he hijacked NewsWatcher source code to build Thoth. He's pulled this
>>>>>> kind of cry baby "software isn't paying for itself" shit before in the
>>>>>> past. I don't see the behavior changing. So I say fuck Thoth. Good
>>>>>> riddance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How old is this guy now?
>>>> 
>>>> No idea. But when software development is more about making money than
>>>> having fun, it's time to stop writing software, IMO. Dude should find
>>>> another hobby.
>>> 
>>> Some like to have fun making money.
>> 
>> I never said you couldn't have fun making money. Apparently you didn't
>> comprehend what I said. Read it again, and pay closer attention this
>> time.
>> 
>>> And hopefully you two are finished with this round of the 'I hate Brian' crap!
>> 
>> Are you Brian's mom or something? What do you care what people think
>> about him?
>
> In reality I don't care.
>
> What I do care about is the bitch-a-thon that usually starts and goes 
> on and on ad nauseum whenever Brian's name comes up.

You can blame Brian for that. If not for his assinine behavior over the
years, waffling back and forth, blaming users for his bad attitude, then
we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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#19986

On 2013-12-20 02:35:45 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>> On 2013-12-20 01:48:22 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> On 2013-12-19, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2013-12-19 14:06:19 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-12-19, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In article <bhg8cmF6uafU2@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2013-12-09, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't
>>>>>>>> add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't
>>>>>>>> support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between
>>>>>>>> marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got
>>>>>>>> tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with him.
>>>>>>>> He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I think
>>>>>>>> he's just off his meds.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And now
>>>>>>>> he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have people
>>>>>>>> just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sooner or later? Brian's asshat behavior got old for me long ago, and
>>>>>>> I'm not even one of his customers. We can ignore the question of whether
>>>>>>> he hijacked NewsWatcher source code to build Thoth. He's pulled this
>>>>>>> kind of cry baby "software isn't paying for itself" shit before in the
>>>>>>> past. I don't see the behavior changing. So I say fuck Thoth. Good
>>>>>>> riddance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How old is this guy now?
>>>>> 
>>>>> No idea. But when software development is more about making money than
>>>>> having fun, it's time to stop writing software, IMO. Dude should find
>>>>> another hobby.
>>>> 
>>>> Some like to have fun making money.
>>> 
>>> I never said you couldn't have fun making money. Apparently you didn't
>>> comprehend what I said. Read it again, and pay closer attention this
>>> time.
>>> 
>>>> And hopefully you two are finished with this round of the 'I hate Brian' crap!
>>> 
>>> Are you Brian's mom or something? What do you care what people think
>>> about him?
>> 
>> In reality I don't care.
>> 
>> What I do care about is the bitch-a-thon that usually starts and goes
>> on and on ad nauseum whenever Brian's name comes up.
> 
> You can blame Brian for that. If not for his assinine behavior over the
> years, waffling back and forth, blaming users for his bad attitude, then
> we wouldn't be having this conversation.

And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I 
always got good support and prompt responses to questions.

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#19987

On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> On 2013-12-20 02:35:45 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>> In reality I don't care.
>>> 
>>> What I do care about is the bitch-a-thon that usually starts and goes
>>> on and on ad nauseum whenever Brian's name comes up.
>> 
>> You can blame Brian for that. If not for his assinine behavior over the
>> years, waffling back and forth, blaming users for his bad attitude, then
>> we wouldn't be having this conversation.
>
> And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I 
> always got good support and prompt responses to questions.

And your definition of "good support" differs from mine.

So be it.

Are we done here?

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#19988

On 2013-12-20 02:53:07 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>> On 2013-12-20 02:35:45 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>> In reality I don't care.
>>>> 
>>>> What I do care about is the bitch-a-thon that usually starts and goes
>>>> on and on ad nauseum whenever Brian's name comes up.
>>> 
>>> You can blame Brian for that. If not for his assinine behavior over the
>>> years, waffling back and forth, blaming users for his bad attitude, then
>>> we wouldn't be having this conversation.
>> 
>> And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I
>> always got good support and prompt responses to questions.
> 
> And your definition of "good support" differs from mine.
> 
> So be it.
> 
> Are we done here?

depends...  :)


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#19989

In article <l90bpb$t7s$1@dont-email.me>,
 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:

> On 2013-12-20 02:53:07 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
> 
> > On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> >> On 2013-12-20 02:35:45 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
> >> 
> >>> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> >>>> In reality I don't care.
> >>>> 
> >>>> What I do care about is the bitch-a-thon that usually starts and goes
> >>>> on and on ad nauseum whenever Brian's name comes up.
> >>> 
> >>> You can blame Brian for that. If not for his assinine behavior over the
> >>> years, waffling back and forth, blaming users for his bad attitude, then
> >>> we wouldn't be having this conversation.
> >> 
> >> And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I
> >> always got good support and prompt responses to questions.
> > 
> > And your definition of "good support" differs from mine.
> > 
> > So be it.
> > 
> > Are we done here?
> 
> depends...  :)

He asked if you were done, not what kind of undies you have on :) 



(Sorry, just couldn't resist a straight-line THAT ripe...)

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#19990

On 2013-12-20 03:27:02 +0000, Don Bruder said:

> In article <l90bpb$t7s$1@dont-email.me>,
>  Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2013-12-20 02:53:07 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2013-12-20 02:35:45 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In reality I don't care.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What I do care about is the bitch-a-thon that usually starts and goes
>>>>>> on and on ad nauseum whenever Brian's name comes up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can blame Brian for that. If not for his assinine behavior over the
>>>>> years, waffling back and forth, blaming users for his bad attitude, then
>>>>> we wouldn't be having this conversation.
>>>> 
>>>> And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I
>>>> always got good support and prompt responses to questions.
>>> 
>>> And your definition of "good support" differs from mine.
>>> 
>>> So be it.
>>> 
>>> Are we done here?
>> 
>> depends...  :)
> 
> He asked if you were done, not what kind of undies you have on :)
> 
> 
> 
> (Sorry, just couldn't resist a straight-line THAT ripe...)

Yeah, yeah!  I knew someone would take the cheap shot!!  :)

Of course, at my age I'm probably not far away from needing them.  :(

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