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Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks).

Started byANTant@zimage.com (Ant)
First post2013-10-26 17:02 -0500
Last post2013-10-28 20:44 +0000
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  Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2013-10-26 17:02 -0500
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 20:21 -0400
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Juan I. Cahis <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> - 2013-10-27 08:08 -0500
        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-27 10:10 -0400
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-10-27 14:16 +1300
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-26 21:23 -0400
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-27 02:37 +0000
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-26 23:09 -0400
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-27 09:31 -0500
        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-27 11:00 -0400
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-27 10:30 -0700
      Re: Online iCloud is required when sync(hroniz)ing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-27 12:21 -0700
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-10-28 10:20 -0600
        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-28 18:15 +0100
          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-10-28 12:31 -0600
            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 20:44 +0000
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-28 18:38 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-29 12:16 -0500
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 18:22 +0000
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-28 15:57 -0700
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-10-28 20:56 -0600
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-28 23:57 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2013-10-29 00:47 -0400
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-29 02:02 -0400
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2013-10-29 21:38 -0400
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-29 19:38 -0700
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-30 00:50 -0400
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2013-10-29 22:21 -0400
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-30 09:09 -0400
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 09:05 +1100
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "857" <8571953@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 06:59 +1100
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 11:13 +0100
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-10-29 12:59 -0600
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-30 09:07 +0100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-30 11:00 -0400
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-30 16:22 +0100
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-30 14:53 -0400
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-30 14:56 -0400
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2013-10-30 21:01 +0000
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-11-02 06:53 -0700
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 10:28 +1100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-11-02 06:53 -0700
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-31 09:28 +0100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-31 09:17 -0400
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-31 15:01 +0100
                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-31 13:35 -0400
                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-04 17:28 +0100
                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-31 15:36 -0400
                                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-11-02 01:46 +0000
                                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-01 22:20 -0400
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2013-11-02 08:26 +0100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-02 15:06 -0400
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 13:42 +0100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 05:37 +1100
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 06:24 +0100
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 19:32 +1100
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-11-02 14:37 +0000
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 04:48 +1100
                                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-01 22:45 -0400
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-11-02 14:37 +0000
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-02 12:12 -0400
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-04 17:32 +0100
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-05 09:13 +1300
                                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-05 11:19 +0100
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2013-11-05 18:18 +0100
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2013-11-02 22:49 -0600
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-03 05:23 +0000
          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-28 16:08 -0400
            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 11:00 +0100
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 06:28 -0700
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 16:42 +0100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 08:53 -0700
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 17:29 +0100
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 09:41 -0700
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 08:33 +1100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 15:58 -0700
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 12:30 +1100
                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 23:14 -0700
                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 03:23 +1100
                                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 10:13 -0700
                                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 10:24 +1100
                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 16:32 -0700
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 11:22 +1100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-31 02:41 +0000
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 20:51 -0700
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 07:42 +1100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-30 21:55 -0500
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 20:53 -0700
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 07:43 +1100
                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-30 22:05 -0500
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 21:00 -0700
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-31 10:01 -0400
                                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-31 07:39 -0700
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 07:48 +1100
                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-06 17:21 -0600
                                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-06 19:58 -0700
                                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-07 09:32 -0600
                                                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-07 22:03 -0700
                                                    Re: (OT) Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2013-11-08 10:48 -0500
                                                      Re: (OT) Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-08 21:34 -0700
                                                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-09 10:06 -0600
                                                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-09 20:01 -0700
                                                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-09 22:36 -0500
                                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-09 21:26 -0700
                                                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-11 09:58 +0000
                                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2013-11-10 09:49 -0500
                                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 07:38 +1100
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-30 16:41 +0100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 10:08 -0700
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 08:28 +1100
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 07:44 +1100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-29 17:52 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 07:28 +1100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 15:54 -0700
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 12:28 +1100
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-29 23:08 -0700
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 03:15 +1100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 10:11 -0700
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 10:22 +1100
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-29 10:22 -0400
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-29 16:52 +0100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 07:42 +1100
              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 07:17 +1100
                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-30 09:24 +0100
                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 03:38 +1100
                    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-31 09:53 +0100
                      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 08:34 +1100
                        Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-04 17:53 +0100
                          Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-05 05:21 +1100
                            Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-05 12:58 +0100
                              Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-06 05:25 +1100
                                Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-11-06 12:41 +0100
                                  Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-07 04:53 +1100
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2013-10-27 19:34 -0500
    Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-28 17:07 +0000
      Re: Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 20:44 +0000

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#19124

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-10-31 07:39 -0700
Message-ID<311020130739314508%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#19122
In article <-budnYv8O7pW_-_PnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt
Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

> One of the overriding constants of the last 30 years is that both
> parties have an innate inability to deal with success.... (g).

What makes you think that this is a recent thing, happening only within
the past 30 years?  It's been much longer than that; it goes back to
the year 1688, when the English Parliament was made superior to the
sovereign as a result of the Glorious Revolution, if not even further
back than that.  Of course, the parties involved have changed over
time.

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#19149

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-01 07:48 +1100
Message-ID<bdfu1cFn6c3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#19108
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote 
> George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote
 
>> You gotta know that "Rod Speed" is the troll incarnation of 
>> your old friend Zara, et al, don't you? Look at the cross-posts.
 
> I knew that the first time he called me a bull dyke.

Presumably you actually are that stupid. 

Look at the headers, stupid. 

I've been around for a hell of lot longer than that fool has. 

Than you have too. 
 
>> I will get you back on track to important issues: 
>> Whatta ya think about the POUNDING that your 
>> Messiah is taking about his DISASTER, LOL?!?
 
> OMG!  He's getting a pounding for a bad web site.  The teabaggers 
> are so far in the hole that they're grasping at straws, er web design.

That's no straw, it's a monumental fuckup. 
 
>> Lady, look for a friggin' LANDSLIDE for Conservatives next year.
>> Dirty Harry, The Evil Witch Pelosi, and the Stooges of Dimcraps 
>> are OUTTA here!
 
> Don't hold your breath; the public has seen through the 
> shenanigans of the Tea Party Republicans, and the Dems 
> are going to take back the house, and increase their hold 
> on the Senate, maybe even to get a filibuster-proof majority.

We'll see...
 
> Oh, he's not my messiah; he's never been.  I can see his flaws 
> and faults.  Besides, he's merely a place-holder for Hillary.

Bet he isn't. Hitlary will never fly, you watch. 
 
> Now that we've got that out of our system, 
> let's get back to discussing the Macintosh.

Too radical.  

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#19289

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2013-11-06 17:21 -0600
Message-ID<CEA02B03.A3BB8%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#19108


On 10/30/13 10:00 PM, in article 301020132100422296%michelle@michelle.org,
"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <CE973328.A3789%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
> <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> You gotta know that "Rod Speed" is the troll incarnation of your old friend
>> Zara, et al, don't you? Look at the cross-posts.
> 
> I knew that the first time he called me a bull dyke.
> 
>> I will get you back on track to important issues: Whatta ya think
>> about the POUNDING that your Messiah is taking about his DISASTER,
>> LOL?!?
> 
> OMG!  He's getting a pounding for a bad web site.  The teabaggers are
> so far in the hole that they're grasping at straws, er web design.
> 
>> Lady, look for a friggin' LANDSLIDE for Conservatives next year.
>> Dirty Harry, The Evil Witch Pelosi, and the Stooges of Dimcraps are
>> OUTTA here!
> 
> Don't hold your breath; the public has seen through the shenanigans of
> the Tea Party Republicans, and the Dems are going to take back the
> house, and increase their hold on the Senate, maybe even to get a
> filibuster-proof majority.
> 
> Oh, he's not my messiah; he's never been.  I can see his flaws and
> faults.  Besides, he's merely a place-holder for Hillary.
> 
> Now that we've got that out of our system, let's get back to discussing
> the Macintosh.

Good idea. Been on vacation and ready to go now...

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#19292

FromMichelle Steiner <foo@bar.com>
Date2013-11-06 19:58 -0700
Message-ID<061120131958012291%foo@bar.com>
In reply to#19289
In article <CEA02B03.A3BB8%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > Now that we've got that out of our system, let's get back to discussing
> > the Macintosh.
> 
> Good idea. Been on vacation and ready to go now...

I hope you enjoyed it.  I'll be pretty much out of the loop from
tomorrow through Sunday; I'll be playing at an ACBL Sectional
Tournament.

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#19299

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2013-11-07 09:32 -0600
Message-ID<CEA10EAD.A3ED3%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#19292


On 11/6/13 8:58 PM, in article 061120131958012291%foo@bar.com, "Michelle
Steiner" <foo@bar.com> wrote:

> In article <CEA02B03.A3BB8%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
> <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Now that we've got that out of our system, let's get back to discussing
>>> the Macintosh.
>> 
>> Good idea. Been on vacation and ready to go now...
> 
> I hope you enjoyed it.  I'll be pretty much out of the loop from
> tomorrow through Sunday; I'll be playing at an ACBL Sectional
> Tournament.

Thanks. Got a little spike buck and visited with family in E. Texas for some
R&R. Hope you win a lot of dinero!

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#19338

FromMichelle Steiner <foo@bar.com>
Date2013-11-07 22:03 -0700
Message-ID<071120132203543702%foo@bar.com>
In reply to#19299
In article <CEA10EAD.A3ED3%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > I hope you enjoyed it.  I'll be pretty much out of the loop from
> > tomorrow through Sunday; I'll be playing at an ACBL Sectional
> > Tournament.
> 
> Thanks. Got a little spike buck and visited with family in E. Texas
> for some R&R. Hope you win a lot of dinero!

It's not gambling; there's no money at stake.  But our team won its
first two rounds, and will be playing in the finals tomorrow.  We
should pick up a bunch of master points.

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#19348 — Re: (OT) Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks).

FromAV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net>
Date2013-11-08 10:48 -0500
SubjectRe: (OT) Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks).
Message-ID<l5j151$ms1$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#19338
On Nov/8/2013 12:0354 AM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article<CEA10EAD.A3ED3%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
> <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>  wrote:
>
>>> I hope you enjoyed it.  I'll be pretty much out of the loop from
>>> tomorrow through Sunday; I'll be playing at an ACBL Sectional
>>> Tournament.
>>
>> Thanks. Got a little spike buck and visited with family in E. Texas
>> for some R&R. Hope you win a lot of dinero!
>
> It's not gambling; there's no money at stake.  But our team won its
> first two rounds, and will be playing in the finals tomorrow.  We
> should pick up a bunch of master points.


Did you by any chance know my late cousin Perry Zeller of San Antonio? 
He had a bridge program on local television and was a favored partner of 
Goren.

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#19361 — Re: (OT) Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks).

FromMichelle Steiner <foo@bar.com>
Date2013-11-08 21:34 -0700
SubjectRe: (OT) Online iCloud is required when synchronizing contacts and calendars between iPhone and iTunes in the new Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks).
Message-ID<081120132134115970%foo@bar.com>
In reply to#19348
In article <l5j151$ms1$2@speranza.aioe.org>, AV3
<arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >>> I hope you enjoyed it.  I'll be pretty much out of the loop from
> >>> tomorrow through Sunday; I'll be playing at an ACBL Sectional
> >>> Tournament.
> >>
> >> Thanks. Got a little spike buck and visited with family in E. Texas
> >> for some R&R. Hope you win a lot of dinero!
> >
> > It's not gambling; there's no money at stake.  But our team won its
> > first two rounds, and will be playing in the finals tomorrow.  We
> > should pick up a bunch of master points.
> 
> 
> Did you by any chance know my late cousin Perry Zeller of San Antonio? 
> He had a bridge program on local television and was a favored partner of 
> Goren.

Nope, I never met him, but his name is a bit familiar.

BTW, my team won its division in the knock out team of four event. 
It's a single-elimination tournament, so we had to win three matches
without losing any.

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#19365

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2013-11-09 10:06 -0600
Message-ID<CEA3B9A1.A4014%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#19338


On 11/7/13 11:03 PM, in article 071120132203543702%foo@bar.com, "Michelle
Steiner" <foo@bar.com> wrote:

> In article <CEA10EAD.A3ED3%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
> <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> I hope you enjoyed it.  I'll be pretty much out of the loop from
>>> tomorrow through Sunday; I'll be playing at an ACBL Sectional
>>> Tournament.
>> 
>> Thanks. Got a little spike buck and visited with family in E. Texas
>> for some R&R. Hope you win a lot of dinero!
> 
> It's not gambling; there's no money at stake.  But our team won its
> first two rounds, and will be playing in the finals tomorrow.  We
> should pick up a bunch of master points.

No side-bets? That makes it better! LOL!!!

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#19366

FromMichelle Steiner <foo@bar.com>
Date2013-11-09 20:01 -0700
Message-ID<091120132001524553%foo@bar.com>
In reply to#19365
In article <CEA3B9A1.A4014%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >>> I hope you enjoyed it.  I'll be pretty much out of the loop from
> >>> tomorrow through Sunday; I'll be playing at an ACBL Sectional
> >>> Tournament.
> >> 
> >> Thanks. Got a little spike buck and visited with family in E. Texas
> >> for some R&R. Hope you win a lot of dinero!
> > 
> > It's not gambling; there's no money at stake.  But our team won its
> > first two rounds, and will be playing in the finals tomorrow.  We
> > should pick up a bunch of master points.
> 
> No side-bets? That makes it better! LOL!!!

Update:  We won the finals.  This morning I played in another knockout
team event; we won the first round, but were eliminated in the second. 
This afternoon, I played in a pairs event, and we took first place in
our division. I was a bit off; we should have placed in the next higher
division.

If people are discovered gambling on the side, they'll get Pete Rosed
from the ACBL.

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#19367

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2013-11-09 22:36 -0500
Message-ID<091120132236164803%star@sky.net>
In reply to#19366
Michelle Steiner:
> If people are discovered gambling on the side, they'll get Pete Rosed
> from the ACBL.

Unjustly kicked out for betting on their own team to win? Wow!

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#19368

FromMichelle Steiner <foo@bar.com>
Date2013-11-09 21:26 -0700
Message-ID<091120132126593450%foo@bar.com>
In reply to#19367
In article <091120132236164803%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
wrote:

> > If people are discovered gambling on the side, they'll get Pete Rosed
> > from the ACBL.
> 
> Unjustly kicked out for betting on their own team to win? Wow!

Kicked out for betting, period.

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#19388

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-11-11 09:58 +0000
Message-ID<slrnl81aid.1kjh.g.kreme@jaka.local>
In reply to#19368
In message <091120132126593450%foo@bar.com> 
  Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> wrote:
> In article <091120132236164803%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
> wrote:

>> > If people are discovered gambling on the side, they'll get Pete Rosed
>> > from the ACBL.
>> 
>> Unjustly kicked out for betting on their own team to win? Wow!

> Kicked out for betting, period.

Justly.

-- 
I know you won't believe it's true I only went with her cuz she looked
like you

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#19371

From"M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com>
Date2013-11-10 09:49 -0500
Message-ID<l5o6da$itr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#19367
On 11/9/13, 10:36 PM, Davoud wrote:
> Michelle Steiner:
>> If people are discovered gambling on the side, they'll get Pete Rosed
>> from the ACBL.
>
> Unjustly kicked out for betting on their own team to win? Wow!
>
I've heard that argument but if you coach every game you bet on like 
it's the seventh game of the world series you're not doing your team, or 
baseball any favors.  In a long season sometimes you have to make a 
decision that might not be the best one for an individual game but do 
your team a lot more good in the long haul.

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#19145

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-01 07:38 +1100
Message-ID<bdftf1Fn2k2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#19102
George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote 
> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> Now is the time for you to go into shrieking bull dyke mode...

>>> And that is precisely what he did, right on cue.

>> There's a three-alarm response to extinguish the flames on your pants,
>> you homophobic mother-fucking liar.  Crawl back under your rock.
 
> You gotta know that "Rod Speed" is the troll 
> incarnation of your old friend Zara, et al, don't you? 

Fraid not. 

> Look at the cross-posts.

Those were there in the thread before I even commented. 
 

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#19038

FromMichael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
Date2013-10-30 16:41 +0100
Message-ID<l4r9bq$rl2$1@news.sap-ag.de>
In reply to#18969
Am 29.10.2013 17:41, schrieb Michelle Steiner:
> In article <l4onpk$1cl$1@news.sap-ag.de>, Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
> wrote:
>
>>> No, they didn't.  Any reports you may have read saying that they did
>>> are distortions at best and fabrications at worst.
>>
>> Ok, if you feel that the video at
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6Kc5Xvr24Aw> is
>> a fabrication, be my guest.
>
> At what point in that 32-minute video does he say that the NSA aims
> only at terrorists?  I do not have the time nor the patience to sit
> through the whole thing.

It is really not that easy to follow him through the video, but e.g. 
around 16:00 (or a few seconds earlier) he clearly states that at least 
two of the currently heavily criticized programs aim only at terrorists. 
Put that together with the fact that (at least up to that point in the 
video) he only talks about terrorists they're after. Yes, he mentions 
cybersecurity as well, but my understanding of his words is that the 
people behind those attacks are in the end just terrorists as well.

Best regards,

Michael

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#19047

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-10-30 10:08 -0700
Message-ID<301020131008061211%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#19038
In article <l4r9bq$rl2$1@news.sap-ag.de>, Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
wrote:

> > At what point in that 32-minute video does he say that the NSA aims
> > only at terrorists?  I do not have the time nor the patience to sit
> > through the whole thing.
> 
> It is really not that easy to follow him through the video, but e.g. 
> around 16:00 (or a few seconds earlier) he clearly states that at least 
> two of the currently heavily criticized programs aim only at terrorists.

He said, "We're going after terrorists with those programs".  That in
no way means that he said or implied that the NSA aims only at
terrorists.  He was referring to two specific programs out of many
programs that the NSA has.

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#18989

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-30 08:28 +1100
Message-ID<bdankjFk7v3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#18968
Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote 
> Michelle Steiner wrote
>> Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote

>>>>> But sure, the NSA aims only at terrorists.

>>>> No one ever claimed that.

>>> US officials did.

>> No, they didn't.  Any reports you may have read saying that 
>> they did are distortions at best and fabrications at worst.
 
> Ok, if you feel that the video at 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6Kc5Xvr24Aw> is 
> a fabrication, be my guest. But I'd say that Keith Alexander 
> is actually a quite high-ranking US official 

Director of the NSA in fact. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_B._Alexander

> and that the video looks pretty original to me.
 
> That Alexander claims to protect at the same time civil rights and 
> privacy is no more than a claim to me, and not a very likely one 
> seeing that they routinely violate civil rights and privacy of people 
> known to have no connection to terrorism whatsoever.
 

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#18985

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-30 07:44 +1100
Message-ID<bdal26Fjm5hU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#18966
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote 
> Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote
>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote 
>>> Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> wrote

>>>> But sure, the NSA aims only at terrorists.

>>> No one ever claimed that.

>> US officials did. 
 
> No, they didn't.  

Yes they did. 

> Any reports you may have read saying that they did
> are distortions at best and fabrications at worst.

They aren't 'reports' we have the buggers saying that in person. 

Obama himself in fact.  

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#18994

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2013-10-29 17:52 -0400
Message-ID<291020131752260513%star@sky.net>
In reply to#18965
Michael Eyd:
> And believe me, I know what the services want to achieve - this is 
> completely independent from the country they belong to. Nevertheless, it 
> is a question they should continuously ask themselves whether everything 
> they can should be done by them. E.g. spying on high(est)-ranking 
> politicians from close allies. E.g. tapping into the phone calls of 
> high(est)-ranking politicians from close allies. ...

You are mistaken in your belief that the U.S. Intelligence community
chooses its own targets. They follow directions--known as tasking--from
above.  

> They should always consider the harm done if this gets public (as it now 
> has), and the loss in trust the US has to bear by that.

Interesting point. It's not the alleged spying that is the problem, but
knowledge of the spying by a public that is poorly informed and naïve.
You don't seriously believe that any of the recent revelations
surprised any European leaders, do you? It's just that these things are
not discussed in polite company except when a traitor like Snowden
comes along and forces these unpleasant subjects on us.

> Or, to put it the other way around: What would you say, what would POTUS 
> say if the German (or French or Spanish or ...) secret service tapped 
> into his phone calls, noticing who he was talking to, possibly even 
> listening to every word said? I really wouldn't expect that anybody in 
> the US would take that lightheartedly... ;-)

Realistically. Suddenly every European is an expert on NSA, but knows
nothing of what his own SIGINT service is doing. You're spying on us,
you're spying on your neighbors, they're spying on you. Ho hum.

And you're still way off base on two counts: why the USG would be
interested in the private communications of your average non-terrorist
in Europe, and also the math. SIGINT processing is labor-intensive
undertaking. It is not possible to monitor large quantities of voice
communications even in English, much less another language. NSA would
need to employ the entire human population to monitor all of the
targets ascribed to it by wildly wrong press reporting.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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