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  trying to run Tiger X.4.11 on separate drive Dushan Mitrovich <dushanm@nnips.net> - 2012-04-03 22:22 -0600
    Re: trying to run Tiger X.4.11 on separate drive dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-04 16:41 +1000
      Re: trying to run Tiger X.4.11 on separate drive Dushan Mitrovich <dushanm@nnips.net> - 2012-04-04 17:52 -0600
        Re: trying to run Tiger X.4.11 on separate drive dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-05 17:52 +1000
          Re: trying to run Tiger X.4.11 on separate drive dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-05 17:59 +1000
            Re: trying to run Tiger X.4.11 on separate drive Dushan Mitrovich <dushanm@nnips.net> - 2012-04-05 12:50 -0600
              Re: trying to run Tiger X.4.11 on separate drive dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-06 07:07 +1000
                Re: trying to run Tiger X.4.11 on separate drive Dushan Mitrovich <dushanm@nnips.net> - 2012-04-06 10:35 -0600
                  Re: trying to run Tiger X.4.11 on separate drive Dushan Mitrovich <dushanm@nnips.net> - 2012-04-06 10:59 -0600
    Re: trying to run Tiger X.4.11 on separate drive Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2012-04-05 06:04 +0100

#8881 — trying to run Tiger X.4.11 on separate drive

My regular OS is SL X.6.8, but I tried running Tiger X.4.11 on a 
separate hard drive so I could use an earlier free version of Crossover 
to run a Windows program.  [I'm an instructor at a community college and 
need to run a CLEA astronomy program so I know what the astro lab 
students will be facing.  The trial period for the current version of 
Crossover has expired, and since I have no other use for it I don't want 
to purchase it.]

Since I still have Tiger on a separate hard disk on my Mac, I thought I 
could just restart from that disk and use the earlier Crossover in that 
disk's Applications folder.  But when I try to start that Crossover, 
nothing at all happens.  Has installing SL on a separate hard disk 
stepped on something and broke it, or did installing the new Crossover 
under SL munged some settings?  I thought using separate disks for the 
two OSs would prevent this sort of interference.

Suggestions would be appreciated.

- Dushan
   [ reverse the middle word of address to reply ]

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#8885

In article <4f7bcc82$0$11836$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>,
 Dushan Mitrovich <dushanm@nnips.net> wrote:

> My regular OS is SL X.6.8, but I tried running Tiger X.4.11 on a 
> separate hard drive so I could use an earlier free version of Crossover 
> to run a Windows program.  [I'm an instructor at a community college and 
> need to run a CLEA astronomy program so I know what the astro lab 
> students will be facing.  The trial period for the current version of 
> Crossover has expired, and since I have no other use for it I don't want 
> to purchase it.]
> 
> Since I still have Tiger on a separate hard disk on my Mac, I thought I 
> could just restart from that disk and use the earlier Crossover in that 
> disk's Applications folder.  But when I try to start that Crossover, 
> nothing at all happens.  Has installing SL on a separate hard disk 
> stepped on something and broke it, or did installing the new Crossover 
> under SL munged some settings?  I thought using separate disks for the 
> two OSs would prevent this sort of interference.
> 
> Suggestions would be appreciated.

I think you have to say what Mac you are using, what year, model etc.

-- 
dorayme

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#8898

dorayme wrote:
> In article<4f7bcc82$0$11836$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>,
>   Dushan Mitrovich<dushanm@nnips.net>  wrote:
>
>> My regular OS is SL X.6.8, but I tried running Tiger X.4.11 on a
>> separate hard drive so I could use an earlier free version of Crossover
>> to run a Windows program.  [I'm an instructor at a community college and
>> need to run a CLEA astronomy program so I know what the astro lab
>> students will be facing.  The trial period for the current version of
>> Crossover has expired, and since I have no other use for it I don't want
>> to purchase it.]
>>
>> Since I still have Tiger on a separate hard disk on my Mac, I thought I
>> could just restart from that disk and use the earlier Crossover in that
>> disk's Applications folder.  But when I try to start that Crossover,
>> nothing at all happens.  Has installing SL on a separate hard disk
>> stepped on something and broke it, or did installing the new Crossover
>> under SL munged some settings?  I thought using separate disks for the
>> two OSs would prevent this sort of interference.
>>
>> Suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> I think you have to say what Mac you are using, what year, model etc.

It's a Dec. 2006 Mac Pro running at 2.667 GHz.  Must admit it never 
occurred to me that might make a difference.

- Dushan

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#8908

In article <4f7cdeda$0$17508$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>,
 Dushan Mitrovich <dushanm@nnips.net> wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
> > In article<4f7bcc82$0$11836$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>,
> >   Dushan Mitrovich<dushanm@nnips.net>  wrote:
> >
> >> My regular OS is SL X.6.8, but I tried running Tiger X.4.11 on a
> >> separate hard drive so I could use an earlier free version of Crossover
> >> to run a Windows program.  [I'm an instructor at a community college and
> >> need to run a CLEA astronomy program so I know what the astro lab
> >> students will be facing.  The trial period for the current version of
> >> Crossover has expired, and since I have no other use for it I don't want
> >> to purchase it.]
> >>
> >> Since I still have Tiger on a separate hard disk on my Mac, I thought I
> >> could just restart from that disk and use the earlier Crossover in that
> >> disk's Applications folder.  But when I try to start that Crossover,
> >> nothing at all happens.  Has installing SL on a separate hard disk
> >> stepped on something and broke it, or did installing the new Crossover
> >> under SL munged some settings?  I thought using separate disks for the
> >> two OSs would prevent this sort of interference.
> >>
> >> Suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > I think you have to say what Mac you are using, what year, model etc.
> 
> It's a Dec. 2006 Mac Pro running at 2.667 GHz.  Must admit it never 
> occurred to me that might make a difference.

You are able to start OK from the Tiger HD? Everything else works 
fine? The app that won't fire is the app itself and not an alias? It 
looks the real thing in Get Info? It used to work fine once from that 
HD on your present Mac? 

When you start from the SL HD, is everything kosher when you verify 
the Tiger HD?

Do you know that there is the excellent, very sophisticated and free 
VirtualBox that you can use on your SL HD and run Windows programs. I 
use this and it is very good indeed.

-- 
dorayme

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#8909

In article <dorayme-D0BAB7.17525505042012@news.albasani.net>,
 dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> In article <4f7cdeda$0$17508$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>,
>  Dushan Mitrovich <dushanm@nnips.net> wrote:
> 
> > dorayme wrote:
> > > In article<4f7bcc82$0$11836$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>,
> > >   Dushan Mitrovich<dushanm@nnips.net>  wrote:
> > >
> > >> My regular OS is SL X.6.8, but I tried running Tiger X.4.11 on a
> > >> separate hard drive so I could use an earlier free version of Crossover
> > >> to run a Windows program.  [I'm an instructor at a community college and
> > >> need to run a CLEA astronomy program so I know what the astro lab
> > >> students will be facing.  The trial period for the current version of
> > >> Crossover has expired, and since I have no other use for it I don't want
> > >> to purchase it.]
> > >>
> > >> Since I still have Tiger on a separate hard disk on my Mac, I thought I
> > >> could just restart from that disk and use the earlier Crossover in that
> > >> disk's Applications folder.  But when I try to start that Crossover,
> > >> nothing at all happens.  Has installing SL on a separate hard disk
> > >> stepped on something and broke it, or did installing the new Crossover
> > >> under SL munged some settings?  I thought using separate disks for the
> > >> two OSs would prevent this sort of interference.
> > >>
> > >> Suggestions would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > I think you have to say what Mac you are using, what year, model etc.
> > 
> > It's a Dec. 2006 Mac Pro running at 2.667 GHz.  Must admit it never 
> > occurred to me that might make a difference.
> 
> You are able to start OK from the Tiger HD? Everything else works 
> fine? The app that won't fire is the app itself and not an alias? It 
> looks the real thing in Get Info? It used to work fine once from that 
> HD on your present Mac? 
> 
> When you start from the SL HD, is everything kosher when you verify 
> the Tiger HD?
> 
> Do you know that there is the excellent, very sophisticated and free 
> VirtualBox that you can use on your SL HD and run Windows programs. I 
> use this and it is very good indeed.

Just another thought: Your old Crossover may need Classic, it may be a 
version that needs OS9 and you may not have all the necessaries now to 
fire up 9 in Classic. Perhaps various files from your System 9 have 
gone missing and you have forgotten?

-- 
dorayme

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#8926

Andreas Rutishauser wrote:
 > So you start from the separate disk with 10.4.11 installed?
 > What do you mean by "nothing at all happens"? Nothing bouncing in the
 > dock? No log entries?

That's right, nothing at all that I've noticed.

dorayme wrote:
> In article<dorayme-D0BAB7.17525505042012@news.albasani.net>,
>   dorayme<dorayme@optusnet.com.au>  wrote:
>
>> In article<4f7cdeda$0$17508$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>,
>>   Dushan Mitrovich<dushanm@nnips.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> dorayme wrote:
>>>> In article<4f7bcc82$0$11836$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>,
>>>>    Dushan Mitrovich<dushanm@nnips.net>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My regular OS is SL X.6.8, but I tried running Tiger X.4.11 on a
>>>>> separate hard drive so I could use an earlier free version of Crossover
>>>>> to run a Windows program.  [I'm an instructor at a community college and
>>>>> need to run a CLEA astronomy program so I know what the astro lab
>>>>> students will be facing.  The trial period for the current version of
>>>>> Crossover has expired, and since I have no other use for it I don't want
>>>>> to purchase it.]
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I still have Tiger on a separate hard disk on my Mac, I thought I
>>>>> could just restart from that disk and use the earlier Crossover in that
>>>>> disk's Applications folder.  But when I try to start that Crossover,
>>>>> nothing at all happens.  Has installing SL on a separate hard disk
>>>>> stepped on something and broke it, or did installing the new Crossover
>>>>> under SL munged some settings?  I thought using separate disks for the
>>>>> two OSs would prevent this sort of interference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> I think you have to say what Mac you are using, what year, model etc.
>>>
>>> It's a Dec. 2006 Mac Pro running at 2.667 GHz.  Must admit it never
>>> occurred to me that might make a difference.
>>
>> You are able to start OK from the Tiger HD? Everything else works
>> fine? The app that won't fire is the app itself and not an alias? It
>> looks the real thing in Get Info? It used to work fine once from that
>> HD on your present Mac?

Yes, tho I haven't had reason to try everything else.  But I was given 
another suggestion: re-install the old Crossover under Tiger.  I'll try 
that and report back when I get to it.

>> When you start from the SL HD, is everything kosher when you verify
>> the Tiger HD?

Not sure what you mean.  How do I "verify the Tiger HD"?

>> Do you know that there is the excellent, very sophisticated and free
>> VirtualBox that you can use on your SL HD and run Windows programs. I
>> use this and it is very good indeed.

That wouldn't help me, since I don't have any Windows OSs under which to 
run Crossover.  And I do use VirtualBox, to run eComStation, so I'm 
familiar with it.

> Just another thought: Your old Crossover may need Classic, it may be a
> version that needs OS9 and you may not have all the necessaries now to
> fire up 9 in Classic. Perhaps various files from your System 9 have
> gone missing and you have forgotten?

No, the old Crossover doesn't need Classic, since it ran fine on Tiger, 
and I never had Classic to begin with.

Thanks for the suggestions.

- Dushan

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#8939

In article <4f7de95a$0$2336$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com>,
 Dushan Mitrovich <dushanm@nnips.net> wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
...
> >
> >> In article<4f7cdeda$0$17508$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>,
> >>   Dushan Mitrovich<dushanm@nnips.net>  wrote:
...
> >>>>> My regular OS is SL X.6.8, but I tried running Tiger X.4.11 on a
> >>>>> separate hard drive so I could use an earlier free version of Crossover
> >>>>> to run a Windows program.  
...
> >>> It's a Dec. 2006 Mac Pro running at 2.667 GHz.  Must admit it never
> >>> occurred to me that might make a difference.
> >>
> >> You are able to start OK from the Tiger HD? Everything else works
> >> fine? The app that won't fire is the app itself and not an alias? It
> >> looks the real thing in Get Info? It used to work fine once from that
> >> HD on your present Mac?
> 
> Yes, tho I haven't had reason to try everything else.  But I was given 
> another suggestion: re-install the old Crossover under Tiger.  I'll try 
> that and report back when I get to it.
>

Yes, good idea. But check your disk first, see below.
 
> >> When you start from the SL HD, is everything kosher when you verify
> >> the Tiger HD?
> 
> Not sure what you mean.  How do I "verify the Tiger HD"?
>
 
In your Utilities folder, there is an app called Disk Utility. It 
checks volumes for file integrity among other things. It also has a 
permissions check (which is only rarely useful). If there is a problem 
needing repair, and you start from the disk you are investigating, it 
will only verify and report problems. It is best to start from another 
disk (HD, DVD, USB whatever) and check the one you are wondering 
about. 

In other words, you start from the volume on which you have your SL OS 
and open DU. You then look for the volume (in your case it is on a 
separate HD) that you have your Tiger OS on. And you click the verify 
or repair button.

...

-- 
dorayme

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#8997

dorayme wrote:
> In article<4f7de95a$0$2336$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com>,
>   Dushan Mitrovich<dushanm@nnips.net>  wrote:
>
>> dorayme wrote:
> ....
>>>
>>>> In article<4f7cdeda$0$17508$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>,
>>>>    Dushan Mitrovich<dushanm@nnips.net>   wrote:
> ....
>>>>>>> My regular OS is SL X.6.8, but I tried running Tiger X.4.11 on a
>>>>>>> separate hard drive so I could use an earlier free version of Crossover
>>>>>>> to run a Windows program.
> ....
>>>>> It's a Dec. 2006 Mac Pro running at 2.667 GHz.  Must admit it never
>>>>> occurred to me that might make a difference.
>>>>
>>>> You are able to start OK from the Tiger HD? Everything else works
>>>> fine? The app that won't fire is the app itself and not an alias? It
>>>> looks the real thing in Get Info? It used to work fine once from that
>>>> HD on your present Mac?
>>
>> Yes, tho I haven't had reason to try everything else.  But I was given
>> another suggestion: re-install the old Crossover under Tiger.  I'll try
>> that and report back when I get to it.
>>
>
> Yes, good idea. But check your disk first, see below.
>
>>>> When you start from the SL HD, is everything kosher when you verify
>>>> the Tiger HD?
>>
>> Not sure what you mean.  How do I "verify the Tiger HD"?
>
> In your Utilities folder, there is an app called Disk Utility. It
> checks volumes for file integrity among other things. It also has a
> permissions check (which is only rarely useful). If there is a problem
> needing repair, and you start from the disk you are investigating, it
> will only verify and report problems. It is best to start from another
> disk (HD, DVD, USB whatever) and check the one you are wondering
> about.
>
> In other words, you start from the volume on which you have your SL OS
> and open DU. You then look for the volume (in your case it is on a
> separate HD) that you have your Tiger OS on. And you click the verify
> or repair button.

Thank you for your suggestion and instructions.  In fact the disk did 
need repair, and DU seemed to have done so successfully.  Now to check 
how booting to Tiger behaves.

On a different topic, yesterday I heard on the news that now the Mac is 
also vulnerable to viruses of various sorts.  Any recommendations for 
good anti-virus software?

- Dushan

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#9001

Dushan Mitrovich wrote:
> dorayme wrote:
>> In article<4f7de95a$0$2336$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com>,
>> Dushan Mitrovich<dushanm@nnips.net> wrote:
>>
>>> dorayme wrote:
>> ....
>>>>
>>>>> In article<4f7cdeda$0$17508$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>,
>>>>> Dushan Mitrovich<dushanm@nnips.net> wrote:
>> ....
>>>>>>>> My regular OS is SL X.6.8, but I tried running Tiger X.4.11 on a
>>>>>>>> separate hard drive so I could use an earlier free version of
>>>>>>>> Crossover
>>>>>>>> to run a Windows program.
>> ....
>>>>>> It's a Dec. 2006 Mac Pro running at 2.667 GHz. Must admit it never
>>>>>> occurred to me that might make a difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are able to start OK from the Tiger HD? Everything else works
>>>>> fine? The app that won't fire is the app itself and not an alias? It
>>>>> looks the real thing in Get Info? It used to work fine once from that
>>>>> HD on your present Mac?
>>>
>>> Yes, tho I haven't had reason to try everything else. But I was given
>>> another suggestion: re-install the old Crossover under Tiger. I'll try
>>> that and report back when I get to it.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, good idea. But check your disk first, see below.
>>
>>>>> When you start from the SL HD, is everything kosher when you verify
>>>>> the Tiger HD?
>>>
>>> Not sure what you mean. How do I "verify the Tiger HD"?
>>
>> In your Utilities folder, there is an app called Disk Utility. It
>> checks volumes for file integrity among other things. It also has a
>> permissions check (which is only rarely useful). If there is a problem
>> needing repair, and you start from the disk you are investigating, it
>> will only verify and report problems. It is best to start from another
>> disk (HD, DVD, USB whatever) and check the one you are wondering
>> about.
>>
>> In other words, you start from the volume on which you have your SL OS
>> and open DU. You then look for the volume (in your case it is on a
>> separate HD) that you have your Tiger OS on. And you click the verify
>> or repair button.
>
> Thank you for your suggestion and instructions. In fact the disk did
> need repair, and DU seemed to have done so successfully. Now to check
> how booting to Tiger behaves.
>
> On a different topic, yesterday I heard on the news that now the Mac is
> also vulnerable to viruses of various sorts. Any recommendations for
> good anti-virus software?
>
> - Dushan

Nevermind on the AV topic - I just read all the posts about it and they 
told me all I need to know.

- Dushan

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#8902

Salut Dushan

In article <4f7bcc82$0$11836$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>,
 Dushan Mitrovich <dushanm@nnips.net> wrote:

> My regular OS is SL X.6.8, but I tried running Tiger X.4.11 on a 
> separate hard drive so I could use an earlier free version of Crossover 
> to run a Windows program.  
> 
> Since I still have Tiger on a separate hard disk on my Mac, I thought I 
> could just restart from that disk and use the earlier Crossover in that 
> disk's Applications folder.  But when I try to start that Crossover, 
> nothing at all happens.  

So you start from the separate disk with 10.4.11 installed?
What do you mean by "nothing at all happens"? Nothing bouncing in the 
dock? No log entries?

> Has installing SL on a separate hard disk 
> stepped on something and broke it, or did installing the new Crossover 
> under SL munged some settings?  

Should not.

> I thought using separate disks for the 
> two OSs would prevent this sort of interference.

That is also my understanding ;-)

Cheers
Andreas

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