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| Started by | Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> |
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| First post | 2012-03-15 23:53 -0400 |
| Last post | 2012-03-22 08:31 -0600 |
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Replying to your own message in Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-03-15 23:53 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-16 17:20 +1100
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-03-16 03:41 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-16 20:54 +1100
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail mcarels@xs4all.nl (Maarten Carels) - 2012-03-16 11:13 +0100
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-16 21:55 +1100
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-03-16 12:46 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-03-16 17:08 +0000
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-03-16 13:13 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-03-16 13:02 +0000
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2012-03-16 20:34 +0000
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-17 08:47 +1100
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2012-03-17 21:26 +0000
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Richard H <Richard.H@invalid.invalid> - 2012-03-19 17:03 +0000
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-03-16 13:02 +0000
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2012-03-16 11:49 -0600
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-03-16 15:11 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2012-03-16 14:35 -0600
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-03-16 16:55 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail "Wayne C. Morris" <wayne.morris@this.is.invalid> - 2012-03-16 15:06 -0500
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Sara <saramerriman@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-21 14:53 +0000
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-22 16:02 +1300
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail PhillipJones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-21 23:19 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-22 16:23 +1300
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Phillip Jones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-22 00:02 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-22 19:52 +1300
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-03-22 11:11 +0000
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail PhillipJones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-22 10:09 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-22 11:28 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-23 06:04 +1300
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Phillip Jones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-22 13:21 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-03-22 18:01 +0000
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail PhillipJones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-22 20:41 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2012-03-26 07:51 -0700
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-03-26 18:36 +0000
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-27 08:11 +1300
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail PhillipJones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-26 20:48 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-27 18:02 +1300
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-03-28 17:04 -0700
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-03-28 17:00 -0700
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-29 15:34 +1300
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-29 15:47 +1100
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-29 10:46 +0200
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-03-29 21:35 +0000
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-03-29 15:20 -0700
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail PhillipJones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-22 10:05 -0400
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-23 06:04 +1300
Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2012-03-22 08:31 -0600
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| From | Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> |
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| Date | 2012-03-15 23:53 -0400 |
| Subject | Replying to your own message in Mail |
| Message-ID | <barmar-60CA0E.23534015032012@news.eternal-september.org> |
I'm still using Snow Leopard, I wonder if Apple has fixed this in Lion. This is one of the few things I think MS Entourage and Outlook get right. If I reply to a message in my Sent folder, Mail sends the reply to me, CC'ing the original recipients if I do a Reply All. What I really intend when I do this is to add to my earlier reply, sending to the same recipients as previously. I could go back to their message and reply to it, but then my first reply wouldn't be included. Why would I actually want to send the reply to *myself*? -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
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| From | dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 17:20 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <dorayme-379826.17202716032012@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #8458 |
In article <barmar-60CA0E.23534015032012@news.eternal-september.org>, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > I'm still using Snow Leopardgood, I wonder if Apple has fixed this in Lion. > This is one of the few things I think MS Entourage and Outlook get right. > > If I reply to a message in my Sent folder, Mail sends the reply to me, > CC'ing the original recipients if I do a Reply All. What I really > intend when I do this is to add to my earlier reply, sending to the same > recipients as previously. I could go back to their message and reply to > it, but then my first reply wouldn't be included. > > Why would I actually want to send the reply to *myself*? Of course, literally, Mail.app gets it right. The reply button replies to the sender, you. As for reasons, you could be wanting to reply to yourself, so you can make extra notes about it for your records or to begin to add extras prior to forwarding the lot to original recipient or even to third party, you might be rushing to catch a plane, you might need access to all this from another. computer elesewhere via webmail. Forward might logically be the more appropriate button. -- dorayme
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| From | Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 03:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <barmar-3DCC8A.03413116032012@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #8459 |
In article <dorayme-379826.17202716032012@news.albasani.net>, dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > In article <barmar-60CA0E.23534015032012@news.eternal-september.org>, > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > > I'm still using Snow Leopardgood, I wonder if Apple has fixed this in Lion. > > This is one of the few things I think MS Entourage and Outlook get right. > > > > If I reply to a message in my Sent folder, Mail sends the reply to me, > > CC'ing the original recipients if I do a Reply All. What I really > > intend when I do this is to add to my earlier reply, sending to the same > > recipients as previously. I could go back to their message and reply to > > it, but then my first reply wouldn't be included. > > > > Why would I actually want to send the reply to *myself*? > > Of course, literally, Mail.app gets it right. The reply button replies Yes, I realize that. But if you think about the more likely scenario, the literal meaning is unlikely to be the intended one. > to the sender, you. As for reasons, you could be wanting to reply to > yourself, so you can make extra notes about it for your records or to > begin to add extras prior to forwarding the lot to original recipient > or even to third party, you might be rushing to catch a plane, you > might need access to all this from another. computer elesewhere via > webmail. > > Forward might logically be the more appropriate button. Yes, but then I have to enter all the recipients again. It also adds a "Fwd:" prefix to the message, when I'm not intentionally forwarding, I'm just continuing the conversation. Consider a group discussion making use of Reply-All. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
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| From | dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 20:54 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <dorayme-03FAB0.20543816032012@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #8460 |
In article <barmar-3DCC8A.03413116032012@news.eternal-september.org>, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In article <dorayme-379826.17202716032012@news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > In article <barmar-60CA0E.23534015032012@news.eternal-september.org>, > > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > > > > I'm still using Snow Leopardgood, I wonder if Apple has fixed this in > > > Lion. > > > This is one of the few things I think MS Entourage and Outlook get right. > > > > > > If I reply to a message in my Sent folder, Mail sends the reply to me, > > > CC'ing the original recipients if I do a Reply All. What I really > > > intend when I do this is to add to my earlier reply, sending to the same > > > recipients as previously. I could go back to their message and reply to > > > it, but then my first reply wouldn't be included. > > > > > > Why would I actually want to send the reply to *myself*? > > > > Of course, literally, Mail.app gets it right. The reply button replies > > Yes, I realize that. But if you think about the more likely scenario, > the literal meaning is unlikely to be the intended one. > Yes, you are quite right. But the fault is that there is no logical button to cater for the likeliest use. Reply is only rarely and unusually the one wanted. You want it to be used for the likeliest human intention rather than for what it strictly says. Forward is more logical but is not up to the likeliest intention in forcing you to remove the FWD, (which is what I do a lot), and put in the recipients. What is needed is a third button to do what is the likeliest, namely send the edited along to the original recipients, a SendAgain button. > > to the sender, you. As for reasons, you could be wanting to reply to > > yourself, so you can make extra notes about it for your records or to > > begin to add extras prior to forwarding the lot to original recipient > > or even to third party, you might be rushing to catch a plane, you > > might need access to all this from another. computer elesewhere via > > webmail. > > > > Forward might logically be the more appropriate button. > > Yes, but then I have to enter all the recipients again. It also adds a > "Fwd:" prefix to the message, when I'm not intentionally forwarding, I'm > just continuing the conversation. > > Consider a group discussion making use of Reply-All. -- dorayme
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| From | mcarels@xs4all.nl (Maarten Carels) |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 11:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1kh1qog.1stba62fhjo68N%mcarels@xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #8460 |
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:> > Yes, but then I have to enter all the recipients again. It also adds a > "Fwd:" prefix to the message, when I'm not intentionally forwarding, I'm > just continuing the conversation. > > Consider a group discussion making use of Reply-All. How about Message->Send Again? On both my 10.6 laptop and 10.7 desktop this does what I think you want. Now if I could get gpg working on the 10.7 machine.... --maarten
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| From | dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 21:55 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <dorayme-9BE1E0.21550516032012@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #8463 |
In article <1kh1qog.1stba62fhjo68N%mcarels@xs4all.nl>, mcarels@xs4all.nl (Maarten Carels) wrote: > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:> > > Yes, but then I have to enter all the recipients again. It also adds a > > "Fwd:" prefix to the message, when I'm not intentionally forwarding, I'm > > just continuing the conversation. > > > > Consider a group discussion making use of Reply-All. > How about Message->Send Again? On both my 10.6 laptop and 10.7 desktop > this does what I think you want. Ah, indeed, yes, so Apple have thought of this! Perhaps a special button is not justified because of the rare use. -- dorayme
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| From | Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 12:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <barmar-3164D7.12461116032012@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #8464 |
In article <dorayme-9BE1E0.21550516032012@news.albasani.net>, dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > In article <1kh1qog.1stba62fhjo68N%mcarels@xs4all.nl>, > mcarels@xs4all.nl (Maarten Carels) wrote: > > > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:> > > > Yes, but then I have to enter all the recipients again. It also adds a > > > "Fwd:" prefix to the message, when I'm not intentionally forwarding, I'm > > > just continuing the conversation. > > > > > > Consider a group discussion making use of Reply-All. > > How about Message->Send Again? On both my 10.6 laptop and 10.7 desktop > > this does what I think you want. > > Ah, indeed, yes, so Apple have thought of this! Perhaps a special > button is not justified because of the rare use. I thought about that, but I don't consider it right, either. It doesn't put "On ... Barry Margolin wrote:" between the new text and the old one, it doesn't put a correct In-Reply-To header. Send Again is for when you need to revise what you sent earlier. For instance, if the message bounced because you sent to the wrong address. It's not like I'm alone in thinking this is what Reply should do -- Microsoft thought of it years ago as well. I'm not usually a MS fan, but they got this heuristic right, I think. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 17:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <timstreater-A15F6B.17083216032012@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #8467 |
In article <barmar-3164D7.12461116032012@news.eternal-september.org>, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In article <dorayme-9BE1E0.21550516032012@news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > In article <1kh1qog.1stba62fhjo68N%mcarels@xs4all.nl>, > > mcarels@xs4all.nl (Maarten Carels) wrote: > > > > > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:> > > > > Yes, but then I have to enter all the recipients again. It also adds a > > > > "Fwd:" prefix to the message, when I'm not intentionally forwarding, I'm > > > > just continuing the conversation. > > > > > > > > Consider a group discussion making use of Reply-All. > > > How about Message->Send Again? On both my 10.6 laptop and 10.7 desktop > > > this does what I think you want. > > > > Ah, indeed, yes, so Apple have thought of this! Perhaps a special > > button is not justified because of the rare use. > > I thought about that, but I don't consider it right, either. It doesn't > put "On ... Barry Margolin wrote:" between the new text and the old one, > it doesn't put a correct In-Reply-To header. > > Send Again is for when you need to revise what you sent earlier. For > instance, if the message bounced because you sent to the wrong address. And for when you want to send to some other bods who you forgot to include first time round. That way, they all get the same message. And if it bounced and then you correct say a typo in an address, why would the recipients care that you messed it up the first time? > It's not like I'm alone in thinking this is what Reply should do -- > Microsoft thought of it years ago as well. I'm not usually a MS fan, > but they got this heuristic right, I think. Reply should do what it says. Send Again is what you're looking for and it sounds like the right thing is done. And in both instances (reply and send again), that's how I've implemented it in my email client. -- Tim "That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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| From | Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 13:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <barmar-9529B4.13132416032012@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #8468 |
In article <timstreater-A15F6B.17083216032012@news.individual.net>, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article <barmar-3164D7.12461116032012@news.eternal-september.org>, > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > > In article <dorayme-9BE1E0.21550516032012@news.albasani.net>, > > dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > In article <1kh1qog.1stba62fhjo68N%mcarels@xs4all.nl>, > > > mcarels@xs4all.nl (Maarten Carels) wrote: > > > > > > > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:> > > > > > Yes, but then I have to enter all the recipients again. It also adds > > > > > a > > > > > "Fwd:" prefix to the message, when I'm not intentionally forwarding, > > > > > I'm > > > > > just continuing the conversation. > > > > > > > > > > Consider a group discussion making use of Reply-All. > > > > How about Message->Send Again? On both my 10.6 laptop and 10.7 desktop > > > > this does what I think you want. > > > > > > Ah, indeed, yes, so Apple have thought of this! Perhaps a special > > > button is not justified because of the rare use. > > > > I thought about that, but I don't consider it right, either. It doesn't > > put "On ... Barry Margolin wrote:" between the new text and the old one, > > it doesn't put a correct In-Reply-To header. > > > > Send Again is for when you need to revise what you sent earlier. For > > instance, if the message bounced because you sent to the wrong address. > > And for when you want to send to some other bods who you forgot to > include first time round. That way, they all get the same message. And > if it bounced and then you correct say a typo in an address, why would > the recipients care that you messed it up the first time? > > > It's not like I'm alone in thinking this is what Reply should do -- > > Microsoft thought of it years ago as well. I'm not usually a MS fan, > > but they got this heuristic right, I think. > > Reply should do what it says. Send Again is what you're looking for and > it sounds like the right thing is done. And in both instances (reply and > send again), that's how I've implemented it in my email client. No, Send Again is NOT what I'm looking for. I don't want to send the old message again, I want to send a new message in the same conversation as the previous one. I could also reply again to the message I originally replied to, but then my previous reply will be lost. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
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| From | Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 13:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jjvdks$n1d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8463 |
Maarten Carels <mcarels@xs4all.nl> wrote: > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:> >> Yes, but then I have to enter all the recipients again. It also adds a >> "Fwd:" prefix to the message, when I'm not intentionally forwarding, I'm >> just continuing the conversation. >> >> Consider a group discussion making use of Reply-All. > How about Message->Send Again? On both my 10.6 laptop and 10.7 desktop > this does what I think you want. > That's what I do when I want to add something 8-) -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
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| From | "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 20:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-f7ElkSFYHdkz@localhost> |
| In reply to | #8463 |
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:13:34 UTC, mcarels@xs4all.nl (Maarten Carels) wrote: > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:> > > Yes, but then I have to enter all the recipients again. It also adds a > > "Fwd:" prefix to the message, when I'm not intentionally forwarding, I'm > > just continuing the conversation. > > > > Consider a group discussion making use of Reply-All. > How about Message->Send Again? On both my 10.6 laptop and 10.7 desktop > this does what I think you want. My most frequent use for Send Again is when an email bounces because there is an invalid address in the To: line. (This most often happens because Mail stupidly uses an old address from the Previous Recipients list instead of the updated address in the Address Book.) I also have used it when I simply forgot to include someone in the original mailing. Send Again permits deleting all the original addressees and inserting whoever you want. Thus you needn't resend to everybody, only to the one person who was overlooked or whose copy bounced. Another use might be to send an email to the members of your club, then Send Again to just the officers, adding some comments that were not for general knowledge. That way, the officers can see exactly what went to the membership in addition to their private communication. -- John Varela
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| From | dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2012-03-17 08:47 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <dorayme-BACE00.08472017032012@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #8474 |
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-f7ElkSFYHdkz@localhost>, "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > My most frequent use for Send Again is when an email bounces because > there is an invalid address in the To: line. (This most often > happens because Mail stupidly uses an old address from the Previous > Recipients list instead of the updated address in the Address Book.) So that's why this happens to me too sometimes, always vaguely thought I must have done entirely wrong. Wonder if the Mail.app team were mainly loyal Western Alliance but with a Russian plant there to do a bit of subversion. -- dorayme
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| From | "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2012-03-17 21:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-Kg9ZbRuiIrCc@localhost> |
| In reply to | #8477 |
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 21:47:20 UTC, dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-f7ElkSFYHdkz@localhost>, > "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > My most frequent use for Send Again is when an email bounces because > > there is an invalid address in the To: line. (This most often > > happens because Mail stupidly uses an old address from the Previous > > Recipients list instead of the updated address in the Address Book.) > > So that's why this happens to me too sometimes, always vaguely thought > I must have done entirely wrong. Wonder if the Mail.app team were > mainly loyal Western Alliance but with a Russian plant there to do a > bit of subversion. I have taken to from time to time erasing the entire Previous Recipients list. -- John Varela
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| From | Richard H <Richard.H@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-03-19 17:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <CB8D174A.2B172A%Richard.H@invalid.invalid> |
| In reply to | #8460 |
On 16/03/2012 7:41 am, in article barmar-3DCC8A.03413116032012@news.eternal-september.org, "Barry Margolin" <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In article <dorayme-379826.17202716032012@news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >> In article <barmar-60CA0E.23534015032012@news.eternal-september.org>, >> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: >> >>> I'm still using Snow Leopardgood, I wonder if Apple has fixed this in Lion. >>> This is one of the few things I think MS Entourage and Outlook get right. >>> >>> If I reply to a message in my Sent folder, Mail sends the reply to me, >>> CC'ing the original recipients if I do a Reply All. What I really >>> intend when I do this is to add to my earlier reply, sending to the same >>> recipients as previously. I could go back to their message and reply to >>> it, but then my first reply wouldn't be included. >>> >>> Why would I actually want to send the reply to *myself*? >> >> Of course, literally, Mail.app gets it right. The reply button replies > > Yes, I realize that. But if you think about the more likely scenario, > the literal meaning is unlikely to be the intended one. > >> to the sender, you. As for reasons, you could be wanting to reply to >> yourself, so you can make extra notes about it for your records or to >> begin to add extras prior to forwarding the lot to original recipient >> or even to third party, you might be rushing to catch a plane, you >> might need access to all this from another. computer elesewhere via >> webmail. >> >> Forward might logically be the more appropriate button. > > Yes, but then I have to enter all the recipients again. It also adds a > "Fwd:" prefix to the message, when I'm not intentionally forwarding, I'm > just continuing the conversation. > > Consider a group discussion making use of Reply-All. File... Open As new Message (?) [But then I'm using Mail 1.2.5 (v553) -- Please reply via Newsgroup
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| From | Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 13:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jjvdks$n1d$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8458 |
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > I'm still using Snow Leopard, I wonder if Apple has fixed this in Lion. > This is one of the few things I think MS Entourage and Outlook get right. > > If I reply to a message in my Sent folder, Mail sends the reply to me, > CC'ing the original recipients if I do a Reply All. What I really > intend when I do this is to add to my earlier reply, sending to the same > recipients as previously. I could go back to their message and reply to > it, but then my first reply wouldn't be included. > > Why would I actually want to send the reply to *myself*? Well, I do from time to time when I do a screen grab on the iPad that I want to edit on my laptop and/or add to a particular "album" on the iPad. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
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| From | Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 11:49 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <jjvuel$ufb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8458 |
On 2012-03-15 9:53 PM Barry Margolin wrote: > I'm still using Snow Leopard, I wonder if Apple has fixed this in Lion. > This is one of the few things I think MS Entourage and Outlook get right. One of the many things MS gets wrong. > If I reply to a message in my Sent folder, Mail sends the reply to me, > CC'ing the original recipients if I do a Reply All. What I really > intend when I do this is to add to my earlier reply, sending to the same > recipients as previously. I could go back to their message and reply to > it, but then my first reply wouldn't be included. > > Why would I actually want to send the reply to *myself* Just delete your address from the To: field. You could move the addresses from the CC: field to the To: field. Mail -- _________________________________ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
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| From | Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 15:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <barmar-4E896A.15110316032012@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #8471 |
In article <jjvuel$ufb$1@dont-email.me>, Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> wrote: > Just delete your address from the To: field. You could move the addresses > from the CC: field to > the To: field. In fact, that's what I usually do. But sometimes I forget, and then I have to delete the unwanted message from my inbox. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
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| From | Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 14:35 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <jk087a$rg3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8472 |
On 2012-03-16 1:11 PM Barry Margolin wrote: > In article<jjvuel$ufb$1@dont-email.me>, > Larry Gusaas<larry.gusaas@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just delete your address from the To: field. You could move the addresses >> from the CC: field to >> the To: field. > In fact, that's what I usually do. But sometimes I forget, and then I > have to delete the unwanted message from my inbox. When I send an email to multi-recipients, I always send it to myself and put everyone else in the Bcc: field. If I wanted to add on a reply to my message, Mails behaviour is exactly how I want it. Besides, how difficult is it to delete a message from your inbox? -- _________________________________ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
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| From | Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 16:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <barmar-56FEAB.16553816032012@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #8475 |
In article <jk087a$rg3$1@dont-email.me>, Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2012-03-16 1:11 PM Barry Margolin wrote: > > In article<jjvuel$ufb$1@dont-email.me>, > > Larry Gusaas<larry.gusaas@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Just delete your address from the To: field. You could move the addresses > >> from the CC: field to > >> the To: field. > > In fact, that's what I usually do. But sometimes I forget, and then I > > have to delete the unwanted message from my inbox. > > When I send an email to multi-recipients, I always send it to myself and put > everyone else in > the Bcc: field. That's not appropriate for group conversations -- think business email, not a newsletter. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
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| From | "Wayne C. Morris" <wayne.morris@this.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-03-16 15:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <wayne.morris-B06946.15060716032012@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #8458 |
In article <barmar-60CA0E.23534015032012@news.eternal-september.org>, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > I'm still using Snow Leopard, I wonder if Apple has fixed this in Lion. > This is one of the few things I think MS Entourage and Outlook get right. > > If I reply to a message in my Sent folder, Mail sends the reply to me, > CC'ing the original recipients if I do a Reply All. What I really > intend when I do this is to add to my earlier reply, sending to the same > recipients as previously. I could go back to their message and reply to > it, but then my first reply wouldn't be included. I just hit Reply All, then delete my address from the To: field, and drag the other recipients from the CC: field into the To: field. Or use the Message - Send Again menu command; it'll make a duplicate of the selected message and let you edit it before hitting Send.
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