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Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack

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  Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-29 08:54 +1100
    Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack <henry@att.net> - 2014-01-28 15:16 -0800
      Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-29 19:18 +1100
      Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack Mike Lane <mike_laneSPAM@mac.com> - 2014-01-29 18:32 +0000
        Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack Paul Goodman <goodmanp@comcast.net> - 2014-01-29 23:33 -0500
          Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-30 17:13 +1100
            Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack Mike Lane <mike_laneSPAM@mac.com> - 2014-01-30 08:05 +0000
              Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-30 19:17 +1100
                Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:05 +0000
                  Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-01-30 17:55 +0100
            Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-30 13:49 -0500
              Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-31 09:25 +1100
                Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-30 18:22 -0500
                  Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-31 11:56 +1100
                    Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-31 12:26 +1100
                      Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-30 21:43 -0500
                        Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-31 17:53 +1100
                Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-01-31 10:49 +0100
                  Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-31 23:43 +1100
        Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:03 +0000
    Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:36 -0500
      Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-30 08:32 +1100
        Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 16:39 -0500
          Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-30 10:32 +1100
            Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 18:51 -0500
              Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-30 17:10 +1100
                Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-30 13:49 -0500
              Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-30 20:07 +1100
                Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-30 20:14 +1100
                Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 14:57 +0000
        Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 21:57 +0000
    Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-01-30 19:26 +0000
      Re: Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-31 09:22 +1100

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#20791 — Converting streaming video to just the soundtrack

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-01-29 08:54 +1100
SubjectConverting streaming video to just the soundtrack
Message-ID<do_ray_me-608AAF.08541229012014@news.albasani.net>
What is the easiest way to get the soundtrack of video lectures that 
appear on various sites, e.g.

<http://davidharvey.org/2008/06/marxs-capital-class-01/>

and if seen on YouTube

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBazR59SZXk>

to listen to it (via a USB stick on an audio only device).

There are facilities to convert YouTube that have a limit of 20 mins, 
the above type of thing obviously goes much longer.

-- 
dorayme

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#20792

From<henry@att.net>
Date2014-01-28 15:16 -0800
Message-ID<280120141516383025%henry@att.net>
In reply to#20791
In article <do_ray_me-608AAF.08541229012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
<do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> What is the easiest way to get the soundtrack of video lectures that 
> appear on various sites, e.g.
> 
> <http://davidharvey.org/2008/06/marxs-capital-class-01/>
> 
> and if seen on YouTube
> 
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBazR59SZXk>
> 
> to listen to it (via a USB stick on an audio only device).
> 
> There are facilities to convert YouTube that have a limit of 20 mins, 
> the above type of thing obviously goes much longer.

I use Piezo from Rogue Amoeba Software for recording the sound from any
source on my iMac (runnings OS 10.9).

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#20793

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-01-29 19:18 +1100
Message-ID<do_ray_me-D27BD9.19182729012014@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#20792
In article <280120141516383025%henry@att.net>, <henry@att.net> wrote:

> In article <do_ray_me-608AAF.08541229012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > What is the easiest way to get the soundtrack of video lectures that 
> > appear on various sites, e.g.
> > 
> > <http://davidharvey.org/2008/06/marxs-capital-class-01/>
> > 
> > and if seen on YouTube
> > 
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBazR59SZXk>
> > 
> > to listen to it (via a USB stick on an audio only device).
> > 
> > There are facilities to convert YouTube that have a limit of 20 mins, 
> > the above type of thing obviously goes much longer.
> 
> I use Piezo from Rogue Amoeba Software for recording the sound from any
> source on my iMac (runnings OS 10.9).

Thanks for this. I will give it a go, seems cheap enough too!

(I note it will also record VOIP conversations, useful for me to 
settle a bet with someone who claims - utterly falsely - that I hog 
most conversations. <g>)

Looking further, they have a "legacy" version for my Snow Leopard, 
their latest is not for my OS. Seems to work on my quick trial on 
Safari. Thanks again.

-- 
dorayme

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#20794

FromMike Lane <mike_laneSPAM@mac.com>
Date2014-01-29 18:32 +0000
Message-ID<0001HW.CF0EF9A10023B3D2B038C9DF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#20792
On Jan 28, 2014, henry@att.net wrote
(in article <280120141516383025%henry@att.net>):

> In article <do_ray_me-608AAF.08541229012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
>> What is the easiest way to get the soundtrack of video lectures that 
>> appear on various sites, e.g.
>> 
>> <http://davidharvey.org/2008/06/marxs-capital-class-01/>
>> 
>> and if seen on YouTube
>> 
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBazR59SZXk>
>> 
>> to listen to it (via a USB stick on an audio only device).
>> 
>> There are facilities to convert YouTube that have a limit of 20 mins, 
>> the above type of thing obviously goes much longer.
> 
> I use Piezo from Rogue Amoeba Software for recording the sound from any
> source on my iMac (runnings OS 10.9).

I've always used Audio Hijack Pro from the same company. I wonder what the 
difference is?

-- 
Mike Lane

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#20808

FromPaul Goodman <goodmanp@comcast.net>
Date2014-01-29 23:33 -0500
Message-ID<2014012923334220882-goodmanp@comcastnet>
In reply to#20794
On 2014-01-29 18:32:01 +0000, Mike Lane said:

> On Jan 28, 2014, henry@att.net wrote
> (in article <280120141516383025%henry@att.net>):
> 
>> In article <do_ray_me-608AAF.08541229012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
>> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> What is the easiest way to get the soundtrack of video lectures that
>>> appear on various sites, e.g.
>>> 
>>> <http://davidharvey.org/2008/06/marxs-capital-class-01/>
>>> 
>>> and if seen on YouTube
>>> 
>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBazR59SZXk>
>>> 
>>> to listen to it (via a USB stick on an audio only device).
>>> 
>>> There are facilities to convert YouTube that have a limit of 20 mins,
>>> the above type of thing obviously goes much longer.
>> 
>> I use Piezo from Rogue Amoeba Software for recording the sound from any
>> source on my iMac (runnings OS 10.9).
> 
> I've always used Audio Hijack Pro from the same company. I wonder what the
> difference is?

I use Audio Hijack Pro too.  Works great for me.

-- 
Paul Goodman

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#20810

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-01-30 17:13 +1100
Message-ID<do_ray_me-41A4B3.17133530012014@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#20808
In article <2014012923334220882-goodmanp@comcastnet>,
 Paul Goodman <goodmanp@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 2014-01-29 18:32:01 +0000, Mike Lane said:
> 
> > On Jan 28, 2014, henry@att.net wrote
> > (in article <280120141516383025%henry@att.net>):
> > 
> >> In article <do_ray_me-608AAF.08541229012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
> >> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> What is the easiest way to get the soundtrack of video lectures that
> >>> appear on various sites, e.g.
> >>> 
> >>> <http://davidharvey.org/2008/06/marxs-capital-class-01/>
> >>> 
> >>> and if seen on YouTube
> >>> 
> >>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBazR59SZXk>
> >>> 
> >>> to listen to it (via a USB stick on an audio only device).
> >>> 
> >>> There are facilities to convert YouTube that have a limit of 20 mins,
> >>> the above type of thing obviously goes much longer.
> >> 
> >> I use Piezo from Rogue Amoeba Software for recording the sound from any
> >> source on my iMac (runnings OS 10.9).
> > 
> > I've always used Audio Hijack Pro from the same company. I wonder what the
> > difference is?
> 
> I use Audio Hijack Pro too.  Works great for me.

Am I correct in assuming to get a soundtrack from say a YouTube Video 
that runs for 90 mins, you need to have your Mac running for 90 mins 
for this software to do its job? Not quite what I want but if I have 
to, I will get the cheaper Piezo to do same.

-- 
dorayme

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#20811

FromMike Lane <mike_laneSPAM@mac.com>
Date2014-01-30 08:05 +0000
Message-ID<0001HW.CF0FB867000130BCB038C9DF@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#20810
On Jan 30, 2014, dorayme wrote
(in article <do_ray_me-41A4B3.17133530012014@news.albasani.net>):

> In article <2014012923334220882-goodmanp@comcastnet>,
>  Paul Goodman <goodmanp@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 2014-01-29 18:32:01 +0000, Mike Lane said:
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2014, henry@att.net wrote
>>> (in article <280120141516383025%henry@att.net>):
>>> 
>>>> In article <do_ray_me-608AAF.08541229012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
>>>> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> What is the easiest way to get the soundtrack of video lectures that
>>>>> appear on various sites, e.g.
>>>>> 
>>>>> <http://davidharvey.org/2008/06/marxs-capital-class-01/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> and if seen on YouTube
>>>>> 
>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBazR59SZXk>
>>>>> 
>>>>> to listen to it (via a USB stick on an audio only device).
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are facilities to convert YouTube that have a limit of 20 mins,
>>>>> the above type of thing obviously goes much longer.
>>>> 
>>>> I use Piezo from Rogue Amoeba Software for recording the sound from any
>>>> source on my iMac (runnings OS 10.9).
>>> 
>>> I've always used Audio Hijack Pro from the same company. I wonder what the
>>> difference is?
>> 
>> I use Audio Hijack Pro too.  Works great for me.
> 
> Am I correct in assuming to get a soundtrack from say a YouTube Video 
> that runs for 90 mins, you need to have your Mac running for 90 mins 
> for this software to do its job? Not quite what I want but if I have 
> to, I will get the cheaper Piezo to do same.
> 
> 

Yes, it just records whatever audio is coming from your Mac in real time. 
Both Audio Hijack and Piezo are free to try.

-- 
Mike Lane

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#20812

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-01-30 19:17 +1100
Message-ID<do_ray_me-9A675F.19171930012014@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#20811
In article 
<0001HW.CF0FB867000130BCB038C9DF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Mike Lane <mike_laneSPAM@mac.com> wrote:

...

> >> I use Audio Hijack Pro too.  Works great for me.
> > 
> > Am I correct in assuming to get a soundtrack from say a YouTube Video 
> > that runs for 90 mins, you need to have your Mac running for 90 mins 
> > for this software to do its job? Not quite what I want but if I have 
> > to, I will get the cheaper Piezo to do same.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Yes, it just records whatever audio is coming from your Mac in real time. 
> Both Audio Hijack and Piezo are free to try.

Thank you. It is not quite what I want, but if I cannot find anything 
else that works by download, it will be better than a poke in the eye 
with a burnt stick.

-- 
dorayme

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#20816

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-01-30 13:05 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlekjfv.28m0.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#20812
In message <do_ray_me-9A675F.19171930012014@news.albasani.net> 
  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> In article 
> <0001HW.CF0FB867000130BCB038C9DF@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Mike Lane <mike_laneSPAM@mac.com> wrote:

> ...

>> >> I use Audio Hijack Pro too.  Works great for me.
>> > 
>> > Am I correct in assuming to get a soundtrack from say a YouTube Video 
>> > that runs for 90 mins, you need to have your Mac running for 90 mins 
>> > for this software to do its job? Not quite what I want but if I have 
>> > to, I will get the cheaper Piezo to do same.
>> > 
>> > 
>> 
>> Yes, it just records whatever audio is coming from your Mac in real time. 
>> Both Audio Hijack and Piezo are free to try.

> Thank you. It is not quite what I want, but if I cannot find anything 
> else that works by download, it will be better than a poke in the eye 
> with a burnt stick.

I used to have a downloader addod for Firefox (back in FF3.0/4.0 days)
that would not only download YouTube Videos, but also convert them. One
of the conversions options was "mp3".

I think it was called, of all things "Downloader"

-- 
"I'm just like every modern woman trying to have it all. A loving
husband, a family. I only wish I had more time to seek out the dark
forces and join their hellish crusade."

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#20821

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2014-01-30 17:55 +0100
Message-ID<qocqra-h64.ln1@news.chingola.ch>
In reply to#20816
Lewis wrote:

> In message <do_ray_me-9A675F.19171930012014@news.albasani.net> 
>   dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> In article 
>> <0001HW.CF0FB867000130BCB038C9DF@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>  Mike Lane <mike_laneSPAM@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> ...
>
>>> >> I use Audio Hijack Pro too.  Works great for me.
>>> > 
>>> > Am I correct in assuming to get a soundtrack from say a YouTube Video 
>>> > that runs for 90 mins, you need to have your Mac running for 90 mins 
>>> > for this software to do its job? Not quite what I want but if I have 
>>> > to, I will get the cheaper Piezo to do same.
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> Yes, it just records whatever audio is coming from your Mac in real time. 
>>> Both Audio Hijack and Piezo are free to try.
>
>> Thank you. It is not quite what I want, but if I cannot find anything 
>> else that works by download, it will be better than a poke in the eye 
>> with a burnt stick.
>
> I used to have a downloader addod for Firefox (back in FF3.0/4.0 days)
> that would not only download YouTube Videos, but also convert them. One
> of the conversions options was "mp3".
>
> I think it was called, of all things "Downloader"

I'm using the following Firefox add-on.  It allows you to select a
variety of formats; I find "(Low) mp4" is usually fine for a swift
download.

"Youtube Downloader - Media Downloader 1.0.8 "

<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-downloader/?src=api>

Note it sometimes gets its knickers in a twist and downloads either
nothing or a zero length file.  Restarting FF normally fixes this.

-- 
"No flying cars yet?", he wrote from a 2 inch by 4 inch pocket computer 
instantaneously to subscribers worldwide using only his right thumb.
                                                          -- @wjflowers

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#20823

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-01-30 13:49 -0500
Message-ID<300120141349496963%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#20810
In article <do_ray_me-41A4B3.17133530012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
<do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> > I use Audio Hijack Pro too.  Works great for me.
> 
> Am I correct in assuming to get a soundtrack from say a YouTube Video 
> that runs for 90 mins, you need to have your Mac running for 90 mins 
> for this software to do its job? Not quite what I want but if I have 
> to, I will get the cheaper Piezo to do same.

audio hijack requires the content to play in real time.

it's definitely *not* the best solution.

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#20827

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-01-31 09:25 +1100
Message-ID<do_ray_me-2192D9.09252831012014@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#20823
In article <300120141349496963%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <do_ray_me-41A4B3.17133530012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > > I use Audio Hijack Pro too.  Works great for me.
> > 
> > Am I correct in assuming to get a soundtrack from say a YouTube Video 
> > that runs for 90 mins, you need to have your Mac running for 90 mins 
> > for this software to do its job? Not quite what I want but if I have 
> > to, I will get the cheaper Piezo to do same.
> 
> audio hijack requires the content to play in real time.
> 
> it's definitely *not* the best solution.

You are not wrong. The question is what is the best. I tried the 
plugin I mentioned that opened the YouTube video in QT7 - ClickToFlash 
- and was able to get a good sound file. The lecture was about an hour 
and three quarters, over 100 MB, it took ages to complete the 
conversion, over half an hour. Presumably it had to download all of 
what it would normally stream, then do the conversion. 

It was not a pleasant experience though, because the process basically 
made my machine useless, it was somehow hogging all the memory or cpu 
(no, I have not investigated the whole matter in detail). Spinning 
balls, no reasonable real-time response to any other commands 
(including, annoyingly, Finder). 

Yet I was pleased with the result! And maybe if I quit all apps except 
Safari and QT beforehand on the next trial, maybe a clearing restart, 
and with a different URL, the experience will be different.

-- 
dorayme

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#20828

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-01-30 18:22 -0500
Message-ID<300120141822107428%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#20827
In article <do_ray_me-2192D9.09252831012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
<do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> > audio hijack requires the content to play in real time.
> > 
> > it's definitely *not* the best solution.
> 
> You are not wrong. The question is what is the best. I tried the 
> plugin I mentioned that opened the YouTube video in QT7 - ClickToFlash 
> - and was able to get a good sound file. The lecture was about an hour 
> and three quarters, over 100 MB, it took ages to complete the 
> conversion, over half an hour. Presumably it had to download all of 
> what it would normally stream, then do the conversion. 
> 
> It was not a pleasant experience though, because the process basically 
> made my machine useless, it was somehow hogging all the memory or cpu 
> (no, I have not investigated the whole matter in detail). Spinning 
> balls, no reasonable real-time response to any other commands 
> (including, annoyingly, Finder). 
> 
> Yet I was pleased with the result! And maybe if I quit all apps except 
> Safari and QT beforehand on the next trial, maybe a clearing restart, 
> and with a different URL, the experience will be different.

every time i've downloaded a youtube video with the plugin, it's
downloaded in the background like any other file would, without any
impact to the user or the machine. 

when the download is complete, just open it in quicktime player and
extract the audio file. 

there is no need to convert formats unless whatever you used to
download it did so in a format where you can't easily extract the audio
(such as flash). i usually pick mp4, which opens directly in quicktime
player.

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#20829

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-01-31 11:56 +1100
Message-ID<do_ray_me-B7F025.11562931012014@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#20828
In article <300120141822107428%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <do_ray_me-2192D9.09252831012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > > audio hijack requires the content to play in real time.
> > > 
> > > it's definitely *not* the best solution.
> > 
> > You are not wrong. The question is what is the best. I tried the 
> > plugin I mentioned that opened the YouTube video in QT7 - ClickToFlash 
> > - and was able to get a good sound file. The lecture was about an hour 
> > and three quarters, over 100 MB, it took ages to complete the 
> > conversion, over half an hour. Presumably it had to download all of 
> > what it would normally stream, then do the conversion. 
> > 
> > It was not a pleasant experience though, because the process basically 
> > made my machine useless, it was somehow hogging all the memory or cpu 
> > (no, I have not investigated the whole matter in detail). Spinning 
> > balls, no reasonable real-time response to any other commands 
> > (including, annoyingly, Finder). 
> > 
> > Yet I was pleased with the result! And maybe if I quit all apps except 
> > Safari and QT beforehand on the next trial, maybe a clearing restart, 
> > and with a different URL, the experience will be different.
> 
> every time i've downloaded a youtube video with the plugin, it's
> downloaded in the background like any other file would, without any
> impact to the user or the machine. 
>

You mean the one you mentioned I guess, not the one I am talking about 
about. 

Yes, I have no doubt that any plugin you recommend works well for you. 
We have talked about the trouble I was having with the one you 
recommended at the beginning. I might revisit it. 

 
> when the download is complete, just open it in quicktime player and
> extract the audio file. 
> 
> there is no need to convert formats unless whatever you used to
> download it did so in a format where you can't easily extract the audio
> (such as flash). i usually pick mp4, which opens directly in quicktime
> player.

Me too, flash to MP4.

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dorayme

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#20830

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-01-31 12:26 +1100
Message-ID<do_ray_me-8C3744.12263731012014@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#20829
In article <do_ray_me-B7F025.11562931012014@news.albasani.net>,
 dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> In article <300120141822107428%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
...
> > 
> > there is no need to convert formats unless whatever you used to
> > download it did so in a format where you can't easily extract the audio
> > (such as flash). i usually pick mp4, which opens directly in quicktime
> > player.
> 
> Me too, flash to MP4.

But MP3 for use in my car radio, does not recognise 4...

-- 
dorayme

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#20831

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-01-30 21:43 -0500
Message-ID<300120142143241887%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#20830
In article <do_ray_me-8C3744.12263731012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
<do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> > > there is no need to convert formats unless whatever you used to
> > > download it did so in a format where you can't easily extract the audio
> > > (such as flash). i usually pick mp4, which opens directly in quicktime
> > > player.
> > 
> > Me too, flash to MP4.
> 
> But MP3 for use in my car radio, does not recognise 4...

if you're using quicktime x (which in general is a mistake), it has an
export audio option that creates a file compatible with ipods, iphones,
etc. you can even export directly to itunes. 

quicktime 7 player has various track exporting options which is far
more capable, although in this particular case, you don't need that
flexibility.

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#20833

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-01-31 17:53 +1100
Message-ID<do_ray_me-BECC65.17533231012014@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#20831
In article <300120142143241887%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <do_ray_me-8C3744.12263731012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > there is no need to convert formats unless whatever you used to
> > > > download it did so in a format where you can't easily extract the audio
> > > > (such as flash). i usually pick mp4, which opens directly in quicktime
> > > > player.
> > > 
> > > Me too, flash to MP4.
> > 
> > But MP3 for use in my car radio, does not recognise 4...
> 
> if you're using quicktime x (which in general is a mistake), it has an
> export audio option that creates a file compatible with ipods, iphones,
> etc. you can even export directly to itunes. 
> 
> quicktime 7 player has various track exporting options which is far
> more capable, although in this particular case, you don't need that
> flexibility.

Well, I use 7 because it does have lots of transparent options I want. 

But it did not have MP3. Probably my car radio would be happy with AVI 
(from QT), but after exporting to MP4 via QT7, I used MPEG Streamclip 
to do a very fast conversion to MP3 and it was good to go. 

(I now know a bit more about Marx than I did before I drove to the 
coast today).

-- 
dorayme

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#20844

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2014-01-31 10:49 +0100
Message-ID<268sra-f2e1.ln1@news.chingola.ch>
In reply to#20827
dorayme wrote:

> In article <300120141349496963%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <do_ray_me-41A4B3.17133530012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
>> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > > I use Audio Hijack Pro too.  Works great for me.
>> > 
>> > Am I correct in assuming to get a soundtrack from say a YouTube Video 
>> > that runs for 90 mins, you need to have your Mac running for 90 mins 
>> > for this software to do its job? Not quite what I want but if I have 
>> > to, I will get the cheaper Piezo to do same.
>> 
>> audio hijack requires the content to play in real time.
>> 
>> it's definitely *not* the best solution.
>
> You are not wrong. The question is what is the best. I tried the 
> plugin I mentioned that opened the YouTube video in QT7 - ClickToFlash 
> - and was able to get a good sound file. The lecture was about an hour 
> and three quarters, over 100 MB, it took ages to complete the 
> conversion, over half an hour. Presumably it had to download all of 
> what it would normally stream, then do the conversion. 
>
> It was not a pleasant experience though, because the process basically 
> made my machine useless, it was somehow hogging all the memory or cpu 
> (no, I have not investigated the whole matter in detail). Spinning 
> balls, no reasonable real-time response to any other commands 
> (including, annoyingly, Finder). 

I have none of that hassle with the Youtube downloader I mentioned in
another post.

No I don't try directing anything at QT.. I do the download first and
then do any conversions necessary afterwards.  A trick I learned
when converting my old audio cassettes to MP3s on my humble iBook years
ago was to do the initial recording in a lossless format and then
convert to MP3 in a separate operation.  That iBook simply didn't have
enough puff to do the recording *and* compression at the same time
without introducing stutter.


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#20848

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2014-01-31 23:43 +1100
Message-ID<do_ray_me-D9F101.23430231012014@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#20844
In article <268sra-f2e1.ln1@news.chingola.ch>,
 Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
> 
> > In article <300120141349496963%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> >  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <do_ray_me-41A4B3.17133530012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
> >> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > > I use Audio Hijack Pro too.  Works great for me.
> >> > 
> >> > Am I correct in assuming to get a soundtrack from say a YouTube Video 
> >> > that runs for 90 mins, you need to have your Mac running for 90 mins 
> >> > for this software to do its job? Not quite what I want but if I have 
> >> > to, I will get the cheaper Piezo to do same.
> >> 
> >> audio hijack requires the content to play in real time.
> >> 
> >> it's definitely *not* the best solution.
> >
> > You are not wrong. The question is what is the best. I tried the 
> > plugin I mentioned that opened the YouTube video in QT7 - ClickToFlash 
> > - and was able to get a good sound file. The lecture was about an hour 
> > and three quarters, over 100 MB, it took ages to complete the 
> > conversion, over half an hour. Presumably it had to download all of 
> > what it would normally stream, then do the conversion. 
> >
> > It was not a pleasant experience though, because the process basically 
> > made my machine useless, it was somehow hogging all the memory or cpu 
> > (no, I have not investigated the whole matter in detail). Spinning 
> > balls, no reasonable real-time response to any other commands 
> > (including, annoyingly, Finder). 
> 
> I have none of that hassle with the Youtube downloader I mentioned in
> another post.
> 
> No I don't try directing anything at QT.. I do the download first and
> then do any conversions necessary afterwards.  A trick I learned
> when converting my old audio cassettes to MP3s on my humble iBook years
> ago was to do the initial recording in a lossless format and then
> convert to MP3 in a separate operation.  That iBook simply didn't have
> enough puff to do the recording *and* compression at the same time
> without introducing stutter.

Stutter is a good word to describe all sorts of things I experienced 
(except that I never *played* the video at all, so no video stutter. 
But my mac stuttered something terrible during the process!

So what happens exactly with this ClickToFlash? There is software that 
detects a flash video on YouTube. It puts a button on the video 
opening frame. You press that button and QT opens with the first frame 
too, there is a delay while things happen behind the scene. What 
happens exactly? 

Is the software organising the download from the YouTube site to some 
QT buffer from where QT can then start showing the stream. Or does it 
pass on the task to QT somehow? I hesitated to quite Safari to test 
this as I just wanted the result (which I got very successfully, not 
counting the process)

If the video is not actively played, the buffer builds up till all is 
somehow there and when it is there, this is effectively called 
'downloaded', the download is a file somewhere on the Mac in some 
place for QT operations. One can export without playing, one can start 
exporting from the word go or wait till all is downloaded (if one can 
tell when it is downloaded - not all so obvious, that bar in play 
strip does not always start filling to the end), one could export 
after the download.

I think a stand alone downloader that can get to the website by 
itself, no involvement from Safari except this browser introduces the 
downloader to the website and commands a download that then appears in 
an explicit way somewhere (like Downloads).

I will look through the thread to see what you used. Consider the rest 
of my remarks as just questions in the thread.

-- 
dorayme

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#20815

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-01-30 13:03 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlekjdc.28m0.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#20794
In message <0001HW.CF0EF9A10023B3D2B038C9DF@news.eternal-september.org> 
  Mike Lane <mike_laneSPAM@mac.com> wrote:
> On Jan 28, 2014, henry@att.net wrote
> (in article <280120141516383025%henry@att.net>):

>> In article <do_ray_me-608AAF.08541229012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme
>> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> What is the easiest way to get the soundtrack of video lectures that 
>>> appear on various sites, e.g.
>>> 
>>> <http://davidharvey.org/2008/06/marxs-capital-class-01/>
>>> 
>>> and if seen on YouTube
>>> 
>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBazR59SZXk>
>>> 
>>> to listen to it (via a USB stick on an audio only device).
>>> 
>>> There are facilities to convert YouTube that have a limit of 20 mins, 
>>> the above type of thing obviously goes much longer.
>> 
>> I use Piezo from Rogue Amoeba Software for recording the sound from any
>> source on my iMac (runnings OS 10.9).

> I've always used Audio Hijack Pro from the same company. I wonder what the 
> difference is?

AHJ Pro costs a lot more money and does a lot more things.


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