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  Last Thoth? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-09 07:19 -0700
    Re: Last Thoth? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-09 15:46 +0000
      Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 09:49 -0600
        Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 13:40 -0600
          Re: Last Thoth? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-09 14:46 -0500
            Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 13:52 -0600
              Re: Last Thoth? Guenther Fischer <never@spam.invalid> - 2013-12-09 21:09 +0100
                Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 14:16 -0600
            Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-09 13:25 -0800
          Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-09 13:24 -0800
          Re: Last Thoth? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-09 13:25 -0800
            Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 15:36 -0600
              Re: Last Thoth? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-09 16:40 -0500
                Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 15:50 -0600
                  Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-10 10:00 -0800
            Re: Last Thoth? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-09 19:01 -0700
    Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-09 07:50 -0800
      Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-10 03:00 -0500
        Re: Last Thoth? A N Niel <anniel@nym.alias.net.invalid> - 2013-12-10 09:19 -0700
          Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-10 12:40 -0600
        Re: Last Thoth? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-10 12:22 -0500
        Re: Last Thoth? Doc O'Leary <droleary@7usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-12-10 11:55 -0600
          Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-10 21:59 -0500
            Re: Last Thoth? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-11 05:12 +0000
        Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-10 10:02 -0800
        Re: Last Thoth? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2013-12-14 16:25 -0500
    Re: Last Thoth? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-09 09:08 -0800
      Re: Last Thoth? "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-12-09 19:58 +0100
      Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-19 12:50 +0000
        Re: Last Thoth? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-19 08:44 -0500
          Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-19 14:06 +0000
            Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 17:31 -0600
              Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-20 01:48 +0000
                Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 20:12 -0600
                  Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-20 02:35 +0000
                    Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 20:40 -0600
                      Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-20 02:53 +0000
                        Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 20:58 -0600
                          Re: Last Thoth? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2013-12-19 19:27 -0800
                            Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 21:49 -0600
                              Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-19 22:49 -0800
                        Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-19 22:48 -0800
                          Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-20 07:56 -0600
                            Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-20 07:26 -0800
                      Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-20 15:24 -0500
                        Re: Last Thoth? "Mr. Strat" <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> - 2013-12-21 06:43 -0800
                          Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-21 10:48 -0500
                            Re: Last Thoth? Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-21 10:44 -0600
                              Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-21 12:34 -0500
                            Re: Last Thoth? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-21 19:33 +0000
                          Re: Last Thoth? Charles <fort514@mac.com> - 2013-12-21 22:25 -0500
                  Re: Last Thoth? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-20 11:34 -0500
                    Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-20 11:01 -0600
        Re: Last Thoth? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-19 15:00 +0000
        Re: Last Thoth? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-19 10:30 -0800
          Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-19 10:32 -0800
    Re: Last Thoth? Guenther Fischer <never@spam.invalid> - 2013-12-09 18:53 +0100
      Re: Last Thoth? "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-12-09 19:50 +0100
        Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-09 13:04 -0800
          Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-10 03:03 -0500
    Re: Last Thoth? Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2013-12-09 13:40 -0500
    Re: Last Thoth? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2013-12-09 18:36 -0800
      Re: Last Thoth? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-09 20:13 -0700
        Re: Last Thoth? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2013-12-09 19:22 -0800

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#19996

On 2013-12-20 03:49:56 +0000, Lloyd  E Parsons said:

> On 2013-12-20 03:27:02 +0000, Don Bruder said:
> 
>> In article <l90bpb$t7s$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2013-12-20 02:53:07 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>>> 
>>>> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2013-12-20 02:35:45 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> In reality I don't care.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What I do care about is the bitch-a-thon that usually starts and goes
>>>>>>> on and on ad nauseum whenever Brian's name comes up.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can blame Brian for that. If not for his assinine behavior over the
>>>>>> years, waffling back and forth, blaming users for his bad attitude, then
>>>>>> we wouldn't be having this conversation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I
>>>>> always got good support and prompt responses to questions.
>>>> 
>>>> And your definition of "good support" differs from mine.
>>>> 
>>>> So be it.
>>>> 
>>>> Are we done here?
>>> 
>>> depends...  :)
>> 
>> He asked if you were done, not what kind of undies you have on :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Sorry, just couldn't resist a straight-line THAT ripe...)
> 
> Yeah, yeah!  I knew someone would take the cheap shot!!  :)
> 
> Of course, at my age I'm probably not far away from needing them.  :(

I'd recommend their new "Hungry Man" line.

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#19995

On 2013-12-20 02:53:07 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>> On 2013-12-20 02:35:45 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>> In reality I don't care.
>>>> 
>>>> What I do care about is the bitch-a-thon that usually starts and goes
>>>> on and on ad nauseum whenever Brian's name comes up.
>>> 
>>> You can blame Brian for that. If not for his assinine behavior over the
>>> years, waffling back and forth, blaming users for his bad attitude, then
>>> we wouldn't be having this conversation.
>> 
>> And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I
>> always got good support and prompt responses to questions.
> 
> And your definition of "good support" differs from mine.
> 
> So be it.
> 
> Are we done here?

This seems to be good rationale for a bitch session about Obama, I suppose.

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#20010

On 2013-12-20 06:48:33 +0000, gtr said:

> On 2013-12-20 02:53:07 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
> 
>> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>> On 2013-12-20 02:35:45 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>>> 
>>>> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>>> In reality I don't care.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I do care about is the bitch-a-thon that usually starts and goes
>>>>> on and on ad nauseum whenever Brian's name comes up.
>>>> 
>>>> You can blame Brian for that. If not for his assinine behavior over the
>>>> years, waffling back and forth, blaming users for his bad attitude, then
>>>> we wouldn't be having this conversation.
>>> 
>>> And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I
>>> always got good support and prompt responses to questions.
>> 
>> And your definition of "good support" differs from mine.
>> 
>> So be it.
>> 
>> Are we done here?
> 
> This seems to be good rationale for a bitch session about Obama, I suppose.

I suppose we could, but then we'd need to bitch about all of Washington 
DC's political residents since not a damned one of them have been 
actually earning their paycheck for way too long.

-- 
Lloyd

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#20011

On 2013-12-20 13:56:06 +0000, Lloyd  E Parsons said:

> On 2013-12-20 06:48:33 +0000, gtr said:
> 
>> On 2013-12-20 02:53:07 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2013-12-20 02:35:45 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-12-20, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In reality I don't care.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What I do care about is the bitch-a-thon that usually starts and goes
>>>>>> on and on ad nauseum whenever Brian's name comes up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can blame Brian for that. If not for his assinine behavior over the
>>>>> years, waffling back and forth, blaming users for his bad attitude, then
>>>>> we wouldn't be having this conversation.
>>>> 
>>>> And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I
>>>> always got good support and prompt responses to questions.
>>> 
>>> And your definition of "good support" differs from mine.
>>> 
>>> So be it.
>>> 
>>> Are we done here?
>> 
>> This seems to be good rationale for a bitch session about Obama, I suppose.
> 
> I suppose we could, but then we'd need to bitch about all of Washington 
> DC's political residents since not a damned one of them have been 
> actually earning their paycheck for way too long.

Well what do you expect when Brian is doing what he's doing!

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#20023

In article <l90amv$odl$1@dont-email.me>, Lloyd  E Parsons
<lloydp21@live.com> wrote:

> And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I 
> always got good support and prompt responses to questions.


As did I

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photo gallery:
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#20065

In article <201220131524223870%nospam.m-m@ny.more>, M-M
<nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:

> In article <l90amv$odl$1@dont-email.me>, Lloyd  E Parsons
> <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> 
> > And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I 
> > always got good support and prompt responses to questions.
> 
> 
> As did I

The few times I've had to contact him about something, he's been quick
and courteous in his response.

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#20069

In article <211220130643032900%mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com>, Mr. Strat
<mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <201220131524223870%nospam.m-m@ny.more>, M-M
> <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:
> 
> > In article <l90amv$odl$1@dont-email.me>, Lloyd  E Parsons
> > <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I 
> > > always got good support and prompt responses to questions.
> > 
> > 
> > As did I
> 
> The few times I've had to contact him about something, he's been quick
> and courteous in his response.

The problem is, now it is unavailable. You cannot download Thoth from
anywhere.

-- 
m-m
photo gallery:
http://mhmyers.com

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#20071

In article <211220131048146356%nospam.m-m@ny.more>,
 M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:

> In article <211220130643032900%mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com>, Mr. Strat
> <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <201220131524223870%nospam.m-m@ny.more>, M-M
> > <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <l90amv$odl$1@dont-email.me>, Lloyd  E Parsons
> > > <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I 
> > > > always got good support and prompt responses to questions.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > As did I
> > 
> > The few times I've had to contact him about something, he's been quick
> > and courteous in his response.
> 
> The problem is, now it is unavailable. You cannot download Thoth from
> anywhere.

http://download.cnet.com/Thoth/3000-2164_4-6733.html

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#20076

In article
<lybanon-673740.10440321122013@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>, Matthew
Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > 
> > The problem is, now it is unavailable. You cannot download Thoth from
> > anywhere.
> 
> http://download.cnet.com/Thoth/3000-2164_4-6733.html

Thanks. I saw that but declined the installer app CNET forced you to
download. Seems harmless though.

-- 
m-m
photo gallery:
http://mhmyers.com

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#20079

In message <211220131048146356%nospam.m-m@ny.more> 
  M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:
> In article <211220130643032900%mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com>, Mr. Strat
> <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> wrote:

>> In article <201220131524223870%nospam.m-m@ny.more>, M-M
>> <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:
>> 
>> > In article <l90amv$odl$1@dont-email.me>, Lloyd  E Parsons
>> > <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I 
>> > > always got good support and prompt responses to questions.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > As did I
>> 
>> The few times I've had to contact him about something, he's been quick
>> and courteous in his response.

> The problem is, now it is unavailable. You cannot download Thoth from
> anywhere.

Oh, I bet there is SOMEWHERE you can download it from...

-- 
It was where the city kept all those things it occasionally needed but
was uneasy about, like the Watch-house, the theatres, the prison and the
publishers. It was the place for all those things which might go off
bang in unexpected ways.

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#20090

In article <211220130643032900%mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com>, Mr. Strat
<mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <201220131524223870%nospam.m-m@ny.more>, M-M
> <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:
> 
> > In article <l90amv$odl$1@dont-email.me>, Lloyd  E Parsons
> > <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > And yet many of us did not have that experience with him at all.  I 
> > > always got good support and prompt responses to questions.
> > 
> > 
> > As did I
> 
> The few times I've had to contact him about something, he's been quick
> and courteous in his response.

My experiences with Brian's support were also positive. And I recall
reporting a bug to him and he swiftly fixed it.

-- 
Charles

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#20012

In article <bhhnd6Fh2bpU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:

> On 2013-12-20 01:48:22 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
> 
> > On 2013-12-19, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> >> On 2013-12-19 14:06:19 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
> >> 
> >>> On 2013-12-19, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> In article <bhg8cmF6uafU2@mid.individual.net>,
> >>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On 2013-12-09, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't
> >>>>>> add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't
> >>>>>> support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate 
> >>>>>> between
> >>>>>> marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got
> >>>>>> tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with 
> >>>>>> him.
> >>>>>> He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I 
> >>>>>> think
> >>>>>> he's just off his meds.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And 
> >>>>>> now
> >>>>>> he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have 
> >>>>>> people
> >>>>>> just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Sooner or later? Brian's asshat behavior got old for me long ago, and
> >>>>> I'm not even one of his customers. We can ignore the question of 
> >>>>> whether
> >>>>> he hijacked NewsWatcher source code to build Thoth. He's pulled this
> >>>>> kind of cry baby "software isn't paying for itself" shit before in the
> >>>>> past. I don't see the behavior changing. So I say fuck Thoth. Good
> >>>>> riddance.
> >>>> 
> >>>> How old is this guy now?
> >>> 
> >>> No idea. But when software development is more about making money than
> >>> having fun, it's time to stop writing software, IMO. Dude should find
> >>> another hobby.
> >> 
> >> Some like to have fun making money.
> > 
> > I never said you couldn't have fun making money. Apparently you didn't
> > comprehend what I said. Read it again, and pay closer attention this
> > time.
> > 
> >> And hopefully you two are finished with this round of the 'I hate Brian' 
> >> crap!
> > 
> > Are you Brian's mom or something? What do you care what people think
> > about him?
> 
> In reality I don't care.
> 
> What I do care about is the bitch-a-thon that usually starts and goes 
> on and on ad nauseum whenever Brian's name comes up.

Well, he's proved to be a worthy subject, has our Brian.
-- 
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Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
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#20016

On 2013-12-20 16:34:26 +0000, Warren Oates said:

> In article <bhhnd6Fh2bpU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2013-12-20 01:48:22 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> On 2013-12-19, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2013-12-19 14:06:19 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-12-19, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In article <bhg8cmF6uafU2@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2013-12-09, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't
>>>>>>>> add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't
>>>>>>>> support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between
>>>>>>>> marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got
>>>>>>>> tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with him.
>>>>>>>> He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I think
>>>>>>>> he's just off his meds.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And now
>>>>>>>> he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have people
>>>>>>>> just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sooner or later? Brian's asshat behavior got old for me long ago, and
>>>>>>> I'm not even one of his customers. We can ignore the question of whether
>>>>>>> he hijacked NewsWatcher source code to build Thoth. He's pulled this
>>>>>>> kind of cry baby "software isn't paying for itself" shit before in the
>>>>>>> past. I don't see the behavior changing. So I say fuck Thoth. Good
>>>>>>> riddance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How old is this guy now?
>>>>> 
>>>>> No idea. But when software development is more about making money than
>>>>> having fun, it's time to stop writing software, IMO. Dude should find
>>>>> another hobby.
>>>> 
>>>> Some like to have fun making money.
>>> 
>>> I never said you couldn't have fun making money. Apparently you didn't
>>> comprehend what I said. Read it again, and pay closer attention this
>>> time.
>>> 
>>>> And hopefully you two are finished with this round of the 'I hate Brian' crap!
>>> 
>>> Are you Brian's mom or something? What do you care what people think
>>> about him?
>> 
>> In reality I don't care.
>> 
>> What I do care about is the bitch-a-thon that usually starts and goes 
>> on and on ad nauseum whenever Brian's name comes up.
> 
> Well, he's proved to be a worthy subject, has our Brian.

Well the usual bitchers about Brian will always show up.  I remember 
the marathon of bitches way back when over the same subject.  Of course 
other than many showing their asses, nothing was accomplished!  :)


-- 
Lloyd

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#19977

In message <bhg8cmF6uafU2@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2013-12-09, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>>
>> When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't 
>> add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't 
>> support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between 
>> marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got 
>> tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with him.  
>> He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I think 
>> he's just off his meds.
>>
>> Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And now 
>> he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have people 
>> just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.

> Sooner or later? Brian's asshat behavior got old for me long ago, and
> I'm not even one of his customers.

Hey! That's me!

> We can ignore the question of whether he hijacked NewsWatcher source
> code to build Thoth. He's pulled this kind of cry baby "software isn't
> paying for itself" shit before in the past. I don't see the behavior
> changing. So I say fuck Thoth. Good riddance.

Exactly.

-- 
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invented parallel universes - Up and Down, Right and Left, Backward and
Forward, Past and Future...  But normal directions don't work in the
multiverse, which has far too many dimensions for anyone to find their
way. So new ones have to be invented so that the way can be found. Like:
East of the Sun, West of the Moon Or: Behind the North Wind.  Or: At the
Back of Beyond.  Or: There and Back Again.  Or: Beyond the Fields We
Know. --Lords and Ladies

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#19979

In article <bhg8cmF6uafU2@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2013-12-09, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> >
> > When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't 
> > add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't 
> > support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between 
> > marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got 
> > tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with him.  
> > He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I think 
> > he's just off his meds.
> >
> > Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And now 
> > he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have people 
> > just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.
> 
> Sooner or later? Brian's asshat behavior got old for me long ago, and
> I'm not even one of his customers. We can ignore the question of whether
> he hijacked NewsWatcher source code to build Thoth. He's pulled this
> kind of cry baby "software isn't paying for itself" shit before in the
> past. I don't see the behavior changing. So I say fuck Thoth. Good
> riddance.

I held my nose and paid my $25 only to be told "if you didn't subscribe 
to my email update list, I can't add you after the fact. It's the way my 
software notification system works."

So I essentially had to bug him every time an update came out.  After 
the third update when he told me he could add me to his update email 
list, I asked for a refund. Got it in a day.

A week later he pulled the "I'm taking my ball and going home."

Maybe he'll stay home this time.

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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#19980

On 2013-12-19 18:30:20 +0000, Michael Vilain said:

> In article <bhg8cmF6uafU2@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2013-12-09, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I kept having to bug him to get updates, I asked why he couldn't
>>> add me to his mailing list. Apparently the software he uses doesn't
>>> support adding without invitation. Since he didn't differentiate between
>>> marketing and updates, I didn't subscribe and had to bug him.  I got
>>> tired of it and asked for a refund rather than having to deal with him.
>>> He seems to think he's offering "excellent customer service" but I think
>>> he's just off his meds.
>>> 
>>> Again, he's making writing software and supporting it personal.  And now
>>> he's taking his ball and going home.  Sooner or later, he'll have people
>>> just ignoring him for doing this sort of thing once to often.
>> 
>> Sooner or later? Brian's asshat behavior got old for me long ago, and
>> I'm not even one of his customers. We can ignore the question of whether
>> he hijacked NewsWatcher source code to build Thoth. He's pulled this
>> kind of cry baby "software isn't paying for itself" shit before in the
>> past. I don't see the behavior changing. So I say fuck Thoth. Good
>> riddance.
> 
> I held my nose and paid my $25 only to be told "if you didn't subscribe
> to my email update list, I can't add you after the fact. It's the way my
> software notification system works."
> 
> So I essentially had to bug him every time an update came out.  After
> the third update when he told me he could add me to his update email
> list, I asked for a refund. Got it in a day.
> 
> A week later he pulled the "I'm taking my ball and going home."
> 
> Maybe he'll stay home this time.

The entire story--it's so exciting!

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#19828

In article <091220130719558666%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In the email announcing Thoth 1.9.1.2, there appeared this sentence: 
> "Please also note that this is the final Thoth Announcements mailing."
> 
> The download, unlike previous updates, was not password protected.
> 
> Also, the Thoth web page ends with this paragraph:
> 
> "Thanks to everyone who registered Thoth over the years, and to all who
> offered constructive criticism, encouragement, ideas for improvements,
> and help in their own way. Special thanks to the few who re-registered,
> to Drew D. Saur for hosting Thoth downloads for so many years, and to
> Jean-Pierre Kuypers for both hosting Thoth and the long hours he spent
> providing French localization for Thoth."
> 
> Sounds to me as if Brian has stopped working on the software.

Well, Brian did a very good job in supporting his software. I had
several times the need to change a little thing and he did that
immediately and even provided personal test versions with that changes
before it became part of the official one.
Thoth is one of these programs that survived all changes and progress,
that apple made in the past. I use it since --- I do not remember the
beginning....

Thank you for your great support, Brian. I will miss Thoth, if it will
end service one day (this may be way ahead...)

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#19830

In article (Dans l'article) <091220131853140627%never@spam.invalid>,
Guenther Fischer <never@spam.invalid> wrote (écrivait) :

> Well, Brian did a very good job in supporting his software. I had
> several times the need to change a little thing and he did that
> immediately and even provided personal test versions with that changes
> before it became part of the official one.

Idem for me.

-- 
Jean-Pierre Kuypers

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#19837

On 2013-12-09 18:50:09 +0000, J.P. Kuypers said:

> In article (Dans l'article) <091220131853140627%never@spam.invalid>,
> Guenther Fischer <never@spam.invalid> wrote (écrivait) :
> 
>> Well, Brian did a very good job in supporting his software. I had
>> several times the need to change a little thing and he did that
>> immediately and even provided personal test versions with that changes
>> before it became part of the official one.
> 
> Idem for me.

Same happened with me.

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#19860

In article <2013120913043039258-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2013-12-09 18:50:09 +0000, J.P. Kuypers said:
> 
> > In article (Dans l'article) <091220131853140627%never@spam.invalid>,
> > Guenther Fischer <never@spam.invalid> wrote (écrivait) :
> > 
> >> Well, Brian did a very good job in supporting his software. I had
> >> several times the need to change a little thing and he did that
> >> immediately and even provided personal test versions with that changes
> >> before it became part of the official one.
> > 
> > Idem for me.
> 
> Same happened with me.
>

Also here. Thank you Brian.

-- 
m-m
photo gallery:
http://mhmyers.com

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