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  newsgroup reader? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 00:28 +0000
    Re: newsgroup reader? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-03 17:54 -0700
      Re: newsgroup reader? David Moorman <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-03 23:27 -0500
        Re: newsgroup reader? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 18:03 +0000
          Re: newsgroup reader? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-04 13:15 -0700
            Re: newsgroup reader? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 22:26 +0000
          Re: newsgroup reader? David Moorman <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-05 00:26 -0500
        Re: newsgroup reader? erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-04 15:43 -0500
          Re: newsgroup reader? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-04 21:02 +0000
            Re: newsgroup reader? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 22:26 +0000
            Re: newsgroup reader? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-06 16:07 +0000
              Re: newsgroup reader? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-06 09:45 -0700
                Re: newsgroup reader? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
                  Re: newsgroup reader? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-09 15:16 -0700
                    Re: newsgroup reader? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
                      Re: newsgroup reader? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-10 21:40 -0700
                        Re: newsgroup reader? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-13 22:19 +0000
                      Re: newsgroup reader? erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-18 19:44 -0500
                        Re: newsgroup reader? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-18 19:13 -0700
                          Re: newsgroup reader? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-18 20:10 -0700
                            Re: newsgroup reader? erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-19 19:38 -0500
                              Re: newsgroup reader? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-19 21:29 -0700
                                Re: newsgroup reader? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-20 23:18 +0000
              Re: newsgroup reader? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-06 17:25 +0000
                Re: newsgroup reader? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-07 02:24 +0000
      Re: newsgroup reader? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-05 01:13 +1300
        Re: newsgroup reader? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 18:03 +0000
          Re: newsgroup reader? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-05 18:05 +1300
        Re: newsgroup reader? erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-04 15:41 -0500
          Re: newsgroup reader? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-05 14:00 +1200
            Re: newsgroup reader? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-05 02:51 +0000
              Re: newsgroup reader? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-05 18:10 +1300
                Re: newsgroup reader? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-04 23:19 -0700
                  Re: newsgroup reader? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-05 19:56 +1300
                    Re: newsgroup reader? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-05 01:12 -0700
                      Re: newsgroup reader? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-05 21:18 +1300
                  Re: newsgroup reader? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-05 09:05 -0400
                    Re: newsgroup reader? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-06 01:38 +1300
                      Re: newsgroup reader? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-05 10:26 -0400
                        Re: newsgroup reader? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-05 08:05 -0700
                          Re: newsgroup reader? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-05 13:01 -0400
                          Re: newsgroup reader? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-06 00:49 +0000
            Re: newsgroup reader? David Moorman <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-05 00:29 -0500
              Re: newsgroup reader? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-05 18:21 +1200
                Re: newsgroup reader? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-05 19:56 +1300
                  Re: newsgroup reader? David Moorman <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-05 19:46 -0500
                Re: newsgroup reader? David Moorman <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-05 19:46 -0500
      Re: newsgroup reader? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 18:03 +0000
      Re: newsgroup reader? erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-04-04 15:39 -0500
        Re: newsgroup reader? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-04 13:45 -0700
    Re: newsgroup reader? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-04 14:22 -0700
      Re: newsgroup reader? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-04 22:26 +0000
        Re: newsgroup reader? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-04 19:21 -0700

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#28975

In article <2015041820101193481-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2015-04-19 02:13:45 +0000, Savageduck said:
> 
> > On 2015-04-19 00:44:06 +0000, erilar said:
> > 
> >> OK, NOW what am I doing wrong? I have now slogged through installation
> >> and failure with Unison and Thunderbird multiple times.  In other words,
> >> I can’t contact the big list of them except with the old laptop, just as
> >> that’s the only place I can edit fotos.  If I can’t get simple binary
> >> newsgroups on the new laptop, I’m not about to trust it to edit fotos,
> >> much less destroy anything else on my iPad, so consideration of such
> >> programs is on indefinite hold..
> >> Both seem to agree that my initial settings are OK, as far as that
> >> goes, but Unison just spins multi-group logos endlessly and will not let
> >> me add a group manually, while Thunderbird gives me a space to type them
> >> in but won't let me do it. MacSOUP apparently wants money to even try.
> >> If the free ones won't open, I'm not about to pay for another failure.
> > 
> > I am not exactly sure of what it is you are actually doing with Unison. 
> > As with MTNW or any other Usenet client you first have to load the news 
> > groups your server has available, I am using Giganews these days, and I 
> > see you are using the same with MTNW, so you actually have a 
> > subscription to a server providing access to binary groups. There is 
> > nothing stopping you using giganews with multiple UseNet clients.
> > 
> > Are you trying to set up Unison with your eternal-september.org account 
> > or your news.giganews.com account?
> > 
> > I would give giganews a try.
> > Once you have that set up, from the menu go to *Group*->*Reload All 
> > Groups List*.
> > When that is done, and it should only be limited by the speed your ISP 
> > provides, start subscribing to the NGs you want.
> > 
> > In the column on the left select *All Groups*. You should see something 
> > like this:
> > <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_105.jpg>
> > 
> > That image shows simple navigation to comp.sys.mac.system. You can then 
> > select that as a favorite and it will join the list which you can 
> > rearrange as you please.
> 
> It seems I took a screwy path to the wrong example group (I guess I was 
> moving too fast). Try this:
> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_107.jpg>
> 
> > An easier way to find a particular group is to use th search function. 
> > Using that, when in the *All Groups* section, just type in the search 
> > window and you will be directed to the required goup. In this example I 
> > have searched for comp.sys.mac.apps. By the time I typed comp.sys.mac I 
> > didn't have to go further as I was presented with a whole bunch of 
> > groups with those characters in their names. I have selected a few by 
> > placing a green check mark in the box to the left of th name. That adds 
> > those to my subscription list.
> > <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_106.jpg>

How do I get something like that?  Nothing is working for me.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#29066

On 2015-04-20 00:38:56 +0000, erilar said:

> In article <2015041820101193481-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
>  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-04-19 02:13:45 +0000, Savageduck said:
>>> On 2015-04-19 00:44:06 +0000, erilar said:
>>> 
>>>> OK, NOW what am I doing wrong? I have now slogged through installation
>>>> and failure with Unison and Thunderbird multiple times.  In other words,
>>>> I can’t contact the big list of them except with the old laptop, just as
>>>> that’s the only place I can edit fotos.  If I can’t get simple binary
>>>> newsgroups on the new laptop, I’m not about to trust it to edit fotos,
>>>> much less destroy anything else on my iPad, so consideration of such
>>>> programs is on indefinite hold..
>>>> Both seem to agree that my initial settings are OK, as far as that
>>>> goes, but Unison just spins multi-group logos endlessly and will not let
>>>> me add a group manually, while Thunderbird gives me a space to type them
>>>> in but won't let me do it. MacSOUP apparently wants money to even try.
>>>> If the free ones won't open, I'm not about to pay for another failure.
>>> 
>>> I am not exactly sure of what it is you are actually doing with Unison.
>>> As with MTNW or any other Usenet client you first have to load the news
>>> groups your server has available, I am using Giganews these days, and I
>>> see you are using the same with MTNW, so you actually have a
>>> subscription to a server providing access to binary groups. There is
>>> nothing stopping you using giganews with multiple UseNet clients.
>>> 
>>> Are you trying to set up Unison with your eternal-september.org account
>>> or your news.giganews.com account?
>>> 
>>> I would give giganews a try.
>>> Once you have that set up, from the menu go to *Group*->*Reload All
>>> Groups List*.
>>> When that is done, and it should only be limited by the speed your ISP
>>> provides, start subscribing to the NGs you want.
>>> 
>>> In the column on the left select *All Groups*. You should see something
>>> like this:
>>> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_105.jpg>
>>> 
>>> That image shows simple navigation to comp.sys.mac.system. You can then
>>> select that as a favorite and it will join the list which you can
>>> rearrange as you please.
>> 
>> It seems I took a screwy path to the wrong example group (I guess I was
>> moving too fast). Try this:
>> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_107.jpg>
>> 
>>> An easier way to find a particular group is to use th search function.
>>> Using that, when in the *All Groups* section, just type in the search
>>> window and you will be directed to the required goup. In this example I
>>> have searched for comp.sys.mac.apps. By the time I typed comp.sys.mac I
>>> didn't have to go further as I was presented with a whole bunch of
>>> groups with those characters in their names. I have selected a few by
>>> placing a green check mark in the box to the left of th name. That adds
>>> those to my subscription list.
>>> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_106.jpg>
> 
> How do I get something like that?  Nothing is working for me.

 Something is wrong, so trash Unison, reinstall, and resetup. What you 
are expriencing should not be happening. There is something going on 
with your local setup that you either haven't discovered, or you are 
not telling us. Once you hav your giganew set up the groups should 
populate quite quickly and not freeze up. You should end up with a list 
of groups as above, and then it is simple enough to subscribe to the 
groups you want..

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#29269

Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2015-04-20 00:38:56 +0000, erilar said:
> .
>>>> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_106.jpg>
>>> How do I get something like that?  Nothing is working for me.
> 
> Something is wrong, so trash Unison, reinstall, and resetup. What you are
> expriencing should not be happening. There is something going on with
> your local setup that you either haven't discovered, or you are not
> telling us. Once you hav your giganew set up the groups should populate
> quite quickly and not freeze up. You should end up with a list of groups
> as above, and then it is simple enough to subscribe to the groups you want..

OK, something to try in late May when I get back.  The new laptop is going
nowhere with me.

-- 
biblioholic medievalist

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#28616

On 2015-04-06, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-04-04, erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <551f6c9d$0$14505$88263eea@blocknews.net>,
>>>  David Moorman <email@domain.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Unison does work but can be quirky at times.
>>> 
>>> It won't settle down and I can't find a way to refuse all images 8-(  
>> 
>> Refuse images? What are you talking about?
>> 
>>> I'm about ready to trash it right now.
>> 
>> You don't seem to have very much patience...
>
> Hours of spinning and nothing else for days?

I wouldn't let it go for hours. If it's not done in a few minutes,
obviously something went wrong. So I'd cancel and try again.

Still not sure what you meant by refusing images, though.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#28626

In message <coftrhF42c3U1@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2015-04-06, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2015-04-04, erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>>>> In article <551f6c9d$0$14505$88263eea@blocknews.net>,
>>>>  David Moorman <email@domain.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Unison does work but can be quirky at times.
>>>> 
>>>> It won't settle down and I can't find a way to refuse all images 8-(  
>>> 
>>> Refuse images? What are you talking about?
>>> 
>>>> I'm about ready to trash it right now.
>>> 
>>> You don't seem to have very much patience...
>>
>> Hours of spinning and nothing else for days?

> I wouldn't let it go for hours. If it's not done in a few minutes,
> obviously something went wrong. So I'd cancel and try again.

I use binsearch to find binaries and thrown the nzb files at sabnzb+

Much better than dealing with the shortcomings of the various GUI clients.

OTOH, I nearly never do that anyway, but I did download like 4000 images
from the fractals newsgroup a few years ago.

> Still not sure what you meant by refusing images, though.



-- 
Han : Not a bad bit of rescuing, huh? You know, sometimes I amaze even
myself. Leia: That doesn't sound too hard.

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#28523

Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2015-04-04 00:28:31 +0000, Erilar said:
> 
> > New problem for me I know has been discussed here in the past. I follow
> > some bigger groups that I mostly delete on my laptop with MTNW. Stupid
> > Yosemite won't open that, either. I remember Unison being discussed here.
> > Is it any good? I can use the old laptop for that as well as graphics
> > editing for a while longer, but it IS a rather old laptop.
> 
> Your options if you want to stay away from terminal, are going to be 
> Thunderbird or Unison. I use both and for the most part Unison will do
> the job. Filters are rudimentary but once built will work quite well.
> Most folks who lost MTNW (myself included) deride Unison, but it is 
> there and for now it works. Bth are free so try them, you have nothing
> to lose.

Or MacSOUP.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#28524

Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-04-04 00:28:31 +0000, Erilar said:
>> 
>>> New problem for me I know has been discussed here in the past. I follow
>>> some bigger groups that I mostly delete on my laptop with MTNW. Stupid
>>> Yosemite won't open that, either. I remember Unison being discussed here.
>>> Is it any good? I can use the old laptop for that as well as graphics
>>> editing for a while longer, but it IS a rather old laptop.
>> 
>> Your options if you want to stay away from terminal, are going to be 
>> Thunderbird or Unison. I use both and for the most part Unison will do
>> the job. Filters are rudimentary but once built will work quite well.
>> Most folks who lost MTNW (myself included) deride Unison, but it is 
>> there and for now it works. Bth are free so try them, you have nothing
>> to lose.
> 
> Or MacSOUP.

Oops-- I seem to have sent this back to you as email 8-(
-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#28566

Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 2015-04-04 00:28:31 +0000, Erilar said:
> >> 
> >>> New problem for me I know has been discussed here in the past. I follow
> >>> some bigger groups that I mostly delete on my laptop with MTNW. Stupid
> >>> Yosemite won't open that, either. I remember Unison being discussed here.
> >>> Is it any good? I can use the old laptop for that as well as graphics
> >>> editing for a while longer, but it IS a rather old laptop.
> >> 
> >> Your options if you want to stay away from terminal, are going to be
> >> Thunderbird or Unison. I use both and for the most part Unison will do
> >> the job. Filters are rudimentary but once built will work quite well.
> >> Most folks who lost MTNW (myself included) deride Unison, but it is
> >> there and for now it works. Bth are free so try them, you have nothing
> >> to lose.
> > 
> > Or MacSOUP.
> 
> Oops-- I seem to have sent this back to you as email 8-(

Heh, was that what happened? :-) No worries mate. Have a good Easter
holiday!
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#28536

In article <1m2dsph.y40md3sdzyxaN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2015-04-04 00:28:31 +0000, Erilar said:
> > 
> > > New problem for me I know has been discussed here in the past. I follow
> > > some bigger groups that I mostly delete on my laptop with MTNW. Stupid
> > > Yosemite won't open that, either. I remember Unison being discussed here.
> > > Is it any good? I can use the old laptop for that as well as graphics
> > > editing for a while longer, but it IS a rather old laptop.
> > 
> > Your options if you want to stay away from terminal, are going to be 
> > Thunderbird or Unison. I use both and for the most part Unison will do
> > the job. Filters are rudimentary but once built will work quite well.
> > Most folks who lost MTNW (myself included) deride Unison, but it is 
> > there and for now it works. Bth are free so try them, you have nothing
> > to lose.
> 
> Or MacSOUP.

I looked that up and it sounds like a Maericks thing. I,m stuck with 
Yosemite over there(I'm at old-faithful-but-full on the kitchen table)

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#28555

erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <1m2dsph.y40md3sdzyxaN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
>  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> 
> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2015-04-04 00:28:31 +0000, Erilar said:
> > > 
> > > > New problem for me I know has been discussed here in the past. I
> > > > follow some bigger groups that I mostly delete on my laptop with
> > > > MTNW. Stupid Yosemite won't open that, either. I remember Unison
> > > > being discussed here. Is it any good? I can use the old laptop for
> > > > that as well as graphics editing for a while longer, but it IS a
> > > > rather old laptop.
> > > 
> > > Your options if you want to stay away from terminal, are going to be
> > > Thunderbird or Unison. I use both and for the most part Unison will do
> > > the job. Filters are rudimentary but once built will work quite well.
> > > Most folks who lost MTNW (myself included) deride Unison, but it is
> > > there and for now it works. Bth are free so try them, you have nothing
> > > to lose.
> > 
> > Or MacSOUP.
> 
> I looked that up and it sounds like a Maericks thing. I,m stuck with 
> Yosemite over there(I'm at old-faithful-but-full on the kitchen table)

MacSOUP works fine on Yosemite. (I'm running this combination.) Its last
update was to fix some issues when running on Mavericks. It didn't need
any updates for Yosemite.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#28562

David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> In article <1m2dsph.y40md3sdzyxaN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
>>  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>> 
>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2015-04-04 00:28:31 +0000, Erilar said:
>>>> 
>>>>> New problem for me I know has been discussed here in the past. I
>>>>> follow some bigger groups that I mostly delete on my laptop with
>>>>> MTNW. Stupid Yosemite won't open that, either. I remember Unison
>>>>> being discussed here. Is it any good? I can use the old laptop for
>>>>> that as well as graphics editing for a while longer, but it IS a
>>>>> rather old laptop.
>>>> 
>>>> Your options if you want to stay away from terminal, are going to be
>>>> Thunderbird or Unison. I use both and for the most part Unison will do
>>>> the job. Filters are rudimentary but once built will work quite well.
>>>> Most folks who lost MTNW (myself included) deride Unison, but it is
>>>> there and for now it works. Bth are free so try them, you have nothing
>>>> to lose.
>>> 
>>> Or MacSOUP.
>> 
>> I looked that up and it sounds like a Maericks thing. I,m stuck with 
>> Yosemite over there(I'm at old-faithful-but-full on the kitchen table)
> 
> MacSOUP works fine on Yosemite. (I'm running this combination.) Its last
> update was to fix some issues when running on Mavericks. It didn't need
> any updates for Yosemite.

Thank you 8-). I'll try that in the morning.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#28567

Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> > erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> >> In article <1m2dsph.y40md3sdzyxaN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> >>  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> On 2015-04-04 00:28:31 +0000, Erilar said:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> New problem for me I know has been discussed here in the past. I
> >>>>> follow some bigger groups that I mostly delete on my laptop with
> >>>>> MTNW. Stupid Yosemite won't open that, either. I remember Unison
> >>>>> being discussed here. Is it any good? I can use the old laptop for
> >>>>> that as well as graphics editing for a while longer, but it IS a
> >>>>> rather old laptop.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Your options if you want to stay away from terminal, are going to be
> >>>> Thunderbird or Unison. I use both and for the most part Unison will do
> >>>> the job. Filters are rudimentary but once built will work quite well.
> >>>> Most folks who lost MTNW (myself included) deride Unison, but it is
> >>>> there and for now it works. Bth are free so try them, you have nothing
> >>>> to lose.
> >>> 
> >>> Or MacSOUP.
> >> 
> >> I looked that up and it sounds like a Maericks thing. I,m stuck with
> >> Yosemite over there(I'm at old-faithful-but-full on the kitchen table)
> > 
> > MacSOUP works fine on Yosemite. (I'm running this combination.) Its last
> > update was to fix some issues when running on Mavericks. It didn't need
> > any updates for Yosemite.
> 
> Thank you 8-). I'll try that in the morning.

Note that MacSOUP <http://www.haller-berlin.de/macsoup/> really requires
you read the manual. It's not long, and isn't hard to understand. But
MacSOUP does behave in some slightly odd ways harking back to pre-GUI
days. For example - one simply closes the window of a new post to save
and queue it for sending.

MacSOUP is also text-only, with no native binary support. One can save
out binaries as text files and run the resulting file through a decoder
app, but it's a lot more trouble that it's worth. Still, most people use
BitTorrent nowadays for file sharing.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#28568

On 2015-04-05 05:10:30 +0000, Jamie Kahn Genet said:

> Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> 
>> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>>> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In article <1m2dsph.y40md3sdzyxaN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
>>>> jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2015-04-04 00:28:31 +0000, Erilar said:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> New problem for me I know has been discussed here in the past. I
>>>>>>> follow some bigger groups that I mostly delete on my laptop with
>>>>>>> MTNW. Stupid Yosemite won't open that, either. I remember Unison
>>>>>>> being discussed here. Is it any good? I can use the old laptop for
>>>>>>> that as well as graphics editing for a while longer, but it IS a
>>>>>>> rather old laptop.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your options if you want to stay away from terminal, are going to be
>>>>>> Thunderbird or Unison. I use both and for the most part Unison will do
>>>>>> the job. Filters are rudimentary but once built will work quite well.
>>>>>> Most folks who lost MTNW (myself included) deride Unison, but it is
>>>>>> there and for now it works. Bth are free so try them, you have nothing
>>>>>> to lose.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or MacSOUP.
>>>> 
>>>> I looked that up and it sounds like a Maericks thing. I,m stuck with
>>>> Yosemite over there(I'm at old-faithful-but-full on the kitchen table)
>>> 
>>> MacSOUP works fine on Yosemite. (I'm running this combination.) Its last
>>> update was to fix some issues when running on Mavericks. It didn't need
>>> any updates for Yosemite.
>> 
>> Thank you 8-). I'll try that in the morning.
> 
> Note that MacSOUP <http://www.haller-berlin.de/macsoup/> really requires
> you read the manual. It's not long, and isn't hard to understand. But
> MacSOUP does behave in some slightly odd ways harking back to pre-GUI
> days. For example - one simply closes the window of a new post to save
> and queue it for sending.
> 
> MacSOUP is also text-only, with no native binary support. One can save
> out binaries as text files and run the resulting file through a decoder
> app, but it's a lot more trouble that it's worth. Still, most people use
> BitTorrent nowadays for file sharing.

Bit Torrent? Who are these most people who use Bit Torrent for file 
sharing nowdays?

I share JPEG, NEF, mp3, m4v, and PDF, and some other files, mainly with 
Dropbox, and Adobe Creative Cloud, occasionally with Box or Pogoplug.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#28570

Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2015-04-05 05:10:30 +0000, Jamie Kahn Genet said:
> 
> > Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> > 
> >> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> >>> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> In article <1m2dsph.y40md3sdzyxaN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> >>>> jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On 2015-04-04 00:28:31 +0000, Erilar said:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> New problem for me I know has been discussed here in the past. I
> >>>>>>> follow some bigger groups that I mostly delete on my laptop with
> >>>>>>> MTNW. Stupid Yosemite won't open that, either. I remember Unison
> >>>>>>> being discussed here. Is it any good? I can use the old laptop for
> >>>>>>> that as well as graphics editing for a while longer, but it IS a
> >>>>>>> rather old laptop.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Your options if you want to stay away from terminal, are going to be
> >>>>>> Thunderbird or Unison. I use both and for the most part Unison will do
> >>>>>> the job. Filters are rudimentary but once built will work quite well.
> >>>>>> Most folks who lost MTNW (myself included) deride Unison, but it is
> >>>>>> there and for now it works. Bth are free so try them, you have nothing
> >>>>>> to lose.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Or MacSOUP.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I looked that up and it sounds like a Maericks thing. I,m stuck with
> >>>> Yosemite over there(I'm at old-faithful-but-full on the kitchen table)
> >>> 
> >>> MacSOUP works fine on Yosemite. (I'm running this combination.) Its last
> >>> update was to fix some issues when running on Mavericks. It didn't need
> >>> any updates for Yosemite.
> >> 
> >> Thank you 8-). I'll try that in the morning.
> > 
> > Note that MacSOUP <http://www.haller-berlin.de/macsoup/> really requires
> > you read the manual. It's not long, and isn't hard to understand. But
> > MacSOUP does behave in some slightly odd ways harking back to pre-GUI
> > days. For example - one simply closes the window of a new post to save
> > and queue it for sending.
> > 
> > MacSOUP is also text-only, with no native binary support. One can save
> > out binaries as text files and run the resulting file through a decoder
> > app, but it's a lot more trouble that it's worth. Still, most people use
> > BitTorrent nowadays for file sharing.
> 
> Bit Torrent? Who are these most people who use Bit Torrent for file 
> sharing nowdays?
> 
> I share JPEG, NEF, mp3, m4v, and PDF, and some other files, mainly with
> Dropbox, and Adobe Creative Cloud, occasionally with Box or Pogoplug.

Not that kind of file sharing. If you've been using Usenet binaries to
give other people your files, I assume you've been running either a
private Usenet server, or don't mind sharing them with the world ;-)
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#28572

On 2015-04-05 06:56:05 +0000, Jamie Kahn Genet said:

> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-04-05 05:10:30 +0000, Jamie Kahn Genet said:
>>> Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>>>> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>>>>> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> In article <1m2dsph.y40md3sdzyxaN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
>>>>>> jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>>>>>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2015-04-04 00:28:31 +0000, Erilar said:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> New problem for me I know has been discussed here in the past. I
>>>>>>>>> follow some bigger groups that I mostly delete on my laptop with
>>>>>>>>> MTNW. Stupid Yosemite won't open that, either. I remember Unison
>>>>>>>>> being discussed here. Is it any good? I can use the old laptop for
>>>>>>>>> that as well as graphics editing for a while longer, but it IS a
>>>>>>>>> rather old laptop.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Your options if you want to stay away from terminal, are going to be
>>>>>>>> Thunderbird or Unison. I use both and for the most part Unison will do
>>>>>>>> the job. Filters are rudimentary but once built will work quite well.
>>>>>>>> Most folks who lost MTNW (myself included) deride Unison, but it is
>>>>>>>> there and for now it works. Bth are free so try them, you have nothing
>>>>>>>> to lose.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Or MacSOUP.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I looked that up and it sounds like a Maericks thing. I,m stuck with
>>>>>> Yosemite over there(I'm at old-faithful-but-full on the kitchen table)
>>>>> 
>>>>> MacSOUP works fine on Yosemite. (I'm running this combination.) Its last
>>>>> update was to fix some issues when running on Mavericks. It didn't need
>>>>> any updates for Yosemite.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you 8-). I'll try that in the morning.
>>> 
>>> Note that MacSOUP <http://www.haller-berlin.de/macsoup/> really requires
>>> you read the manual. It's not long, and isn't hard to understand. But
>>> MacSOUP does behave in some slightly odd ways harking back to pre-GUI
>>> days. For example - one simply closes the window of a new post to save
>>> and queue it for sending.
>>> 
>>> MacSOUP is also text-only, with no native binary support. One can save
>>> out binaries as text files and run the resulting file through a decoder
>>> app, but it's a lot more trouble that it's worth. Still, most people use
>>> BitTorrent nowadays for file sharing.
>> 
>> Bit Torrent? Who are these most people who use Bit Torrent for file
>> sharing nowdays?
>> 
>> I share JPEG, NEF, mp3, m4v, and PDF, and some other files, mainly with
>> Dropbox, and Adobe Creative Cloud, occasionally with Box or Pogoplug.
> 
> Not that kind of file sharing. If you've been using Usenet binaries to
> give other people your files, I assume you've been running either a
> private Usenet server, or don't mind sharing them with the world ;-)

I only share binaries in two News Groups, but not so frequently these 
days. Those are usually JPEG image files in 
alt.binaries.pictures.aviation and alt.binaries.photos.original. I 
don't download binaries from Usenet, and I don't use BitTorrent. I will 
view images posted in those binary groups.

In non-binary groups I share image files and some m4v files via Dropbox 
or Adobe CC links. Like this:
<http://adobe.ly/18kdrTj>

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#28573

Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2015-04-05 06:56:05 +0000, Jamie Kahn Genet said:
> 
> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
[snip]
> >> I share JPEG, NEF, mp3, m4v, and PDF, and some other files, mainly with
> >> Dropbox, and Adobe Creative Cloud, occasionally with Box or Pogoplug.
> > 
> > Not that kind of file sharing. If you've been using Usenet binaries to
> > give other people your files, I assume you've been running either a
> > private Usenet server, or don't mind sharing them with the world ;-)
> 
> I only share binaries in two News Groups, but not so frequently these
> days. Those are usually JPEG image files in 
> alt.binaries.pictures.aviation and alt.binaries.photos.original. I 
> don't download binaries from Usenet, and I don't use BitTorrent. I will
> view images posted in those binary groups.
> 
> In non-binary groups I share image files and some m4v files via Dropbox
> or Adobe CC links. Like this:
> <http://adobe.ly/18kdrTj>

Indeed. With linking to files and free to cheap online storage for them,
actual Usenet binaries are far less useful nowadays.

-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#28574

In article <201504042319538253-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> Bit Torrent? Who are these most people who use Bit Torrent for file 
> sharing nowdays?

Pedophiles, drug dealers, outlaw bikers, lawyers, chiropractors; you 
know, the usual scum of the earth. Happy easter.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#28576

Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <201504042319538253-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
>  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
> > Bit Torrent? Who are these most people who use Bit Torrent for file
> > sharing nowdays?
> 
> Pedophiles, drug dealers, outlaw bikers, lawyers, chiropractors; you 
> know, the usual scum of the earth. Happy easter.

But mostly the average guy down the street who either pirates content
because they lack ethics, or because rights holders continue to screw
around where they live and set the legitimate bar so high that the low
bar of pirating is easier, no matter the ethics.

Either way - far from the 'scum of the Earth' :-)
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#28577

In article <1m2foeu.w9c6xa1pzx6vxN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <201504042319538253-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
> >  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Bit Torrent? Who are these most people who use Bit Torrent for file
> > > sharing nowdays?
> > 
> > Pedophiles, drug dealers, outlaw bikers, lawyers, chiropractors; you 
> > know, the usual scum of the earth. Happy easter.
> 
> But mostly the average guy down the street who either pirates content
> because they lack ethics, or because rights holders continue to screw
> around where they live and set the legitimate bar so high that the low
> bar of pirating is easier, no matter the ethics.
> 
> Either way - far from the 'scum of the Earth' :-)

You're too easy.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#28578

On 2015-04-05 14:26:06 +0000, Warren Oates said:

> In article <1m2foeu.w9c6xa1pzx6vxN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
>  jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> 
>> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <201504042319538253-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Bit Torrent? Who are these most people who use Bit Torrent for file
>>>> sharing nowdays?
>>> 
>>> Pedophiles, drug dealers, outlaw bikers, lawyers, chiropractors; you 
>>> know, the usual scum of the earth. Happy easter.
>> 
>> But mostly the average guy down the street who either pirates content
>> because they lack ethics, or because rights holders continue to screw
>> around where they live and set the legitimate bar so high that the low
>> bar of pirating is easier, no matter the ethics.
>> 
>> Either way - far from the 'scum of the Earth' :-)
> 
> You're too easy.

"Scum of The Earth", the fictictious heavy metal band which featured in 
an episode of "WKRP in Cincinnati"?
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI_oECaA7Nw>

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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