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  iOS 7 Jim_Higgins <gordian238@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 19:13 -0400
    Re: iOS 7 Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-09-16 19:16 -0400
      Re: iOS 7 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-16 19:54 -0400
        Re: iOS 7 *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@hotmail.com> - 2013-09-17 23:04 -0400
          Re: iOS 7 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-18 06:01 -0400
            Re: iOS 7 Jesse <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2013-09-18 22:51 -0500
              Re: iOS 7 PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2013-09-19 00:42 -0400
                Re: iOS 7 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-19 06:18 -0400
                Re: iOS 7 Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-09-19 09:59 -0400
                  Re: iOS 7 Phillip Jones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2013-09-19 22:54 -0400
              Re: iOS 7 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-09-19 06:18 -0400
                Re: iOS 7 Phillip Jones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2013-09-19 22:52 -0400
                  Re: iOS 7 William Munny <will@bigwhiskey.gov> - 2013-09-20 08:58 -0400
                    Re: iOS 7 PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2013-09-20 18:04 -0400
                      Re: iOS 7 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-09-30 10:29 -0700
                        Re: iOS 7 Jim_Higgins <gordian238@gmail.com> - 2013-09-30 13:37 -0400
                        Re: iOS 7 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 11:17 -0700
                          Re: iOS 7 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-01 14:24 -0400
                            Re: iOS 7 Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2013-10-02 09:04 +0200
                              Re: iOS 7 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-02 09:37 -0400
                                Re: iOS 7 Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2013-10-03 08:57 +0200
                                  Re: iOS 7 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-03 03:05 -0400

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#17487 — iOS 7

Are you going to jump right in on 18 Sep and install it or be cautious 
and wait to see for a week or so?

FWIW I'm for wait and see.
-- 
"Guarded by a tired cohort of Roman Heavy Infantry"

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#17488

Jim_Higgins:
> Are you going to jump right in on 18 Sep and install it or be cautious 
> and wait to see for a week or so?
> 
> FWIW I'm for wait and see.

I tend to be an early adopter. Thousands of developers have tested iOS
7 and pronounced it Good. I'm going to install it ASAP on my 4S, then,
if all is well, I'll install it on my wife's phone.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#17499

In article <160920131916110160%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
wrote:

> > Are you going to jump right in on 18 Sep and install it or be cautious 
> > and wait to see for a week or so?
> > 
> > FWIW I'm for wait and see.
> 
> I tend to be an early adopter. Thousands of developers have tested iOS
> 7 and pronounced it Good. I'm going to install it ASAP on my 4S, then,
> if all is well, I'll install it on my wife's phone.

and thousands more have tested it and pronounced it 'not done yet' and
still somewhat buggy, including the golden master.

apple even had to remove the icloud keychain feature to meet the
release schedule.

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#17557

On 09/16/2013 07:54 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <160920131916110160%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> Are you going to jump right in on 18 Sep and install it or be cautious
>>> and wait to see for a week or so?
>>>
>>> FWIW I'm for wait and see.
>>
>> I tend to be an early adopter. Thousands of developers have tested iOS
>> 7 and pronounced it Good. I'm going to install it ASAP on my 4S, then,
>> if all is well, I'll install it on my wife's phone.
>
> and thousands more have tested it and pronounced it 'not done yet' and
> still somewhat buggy, including the golden master.
>
> apple even had to remove the icloud keychain feature to meet the
> release schedule.

Since I'm new to iOS I think I will hold off about a week for the dust 
to settle and install it then. iOS 7 is the most major thing to happen 
since iOS so it might pay to let any oopsies get worked out by "early 
adopters" first. I have an iPhone 5 so maybe I can jump on the bandwagon 
and not worry, but then there's the traffic issue and whether Apple's 
servers can handle the uptick. I don't feel like waiting forever and a 
day for the download.

Do OTA upgrades work over LTE or does it require WiFi?

Will it change my usage as far as storage (I have a 16 GB phone) much? 
Will it drain my battery faster?

I do anticipate the upgrade, but patience is a virtue.


-- 
*Hemidactylus*

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#17564

In article <n4mdnbKSgIvHhaTPnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Since I'm new to iOS I think I will hold off about a week for the dust 
> to settle and install it then. iOS 7 is the most major thing to happen 
> since iOS so it might pay to let any oopsies get worked out by "early 
> adopters" first. I have an iPhone 5 so maybe I can jump on the bandwagon 
> and not worry, but then there's the traffic issue and whether Apple's 
> servers can handle the uptick. I don't feel like waiting forever and a 
> day for the download.

wise move.

their servers will undoubtedly be overloaded.

they really fucked up with ios 2 or 3 (not sure which), when they
released the new iphone at the same time as releasing the new ios
version, and that completely overwhelmed their servers, so much so that
new iphones could not be activated because the servers weren't
responding. it's quite a bit worse when you have a customer in the
store and can't activate their phone.

now they stagger the release, with ios coming out a few days before the
phones do (plus they have upgraded their servers too). that spreads the
load, at least a little bit. 

nevertheless, there still might be activation issues on friday.

> Do OTA upgrades work over LTE or does it require WiFi?

either way, and also usb via itunes.

> Will it change my usage as far as storage (I have a 16 GB phone) much? 

slightly less free space than before.

> Will it drain my battery faster?

it is designed to drain your battery *less*, not more. 

however, there may be bugs where it doesn't work properly.

> I do anticipate the upgrade, but patience is a virtue.

it can be.

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#17582

On 2013-09-18 10:01:48 +0000, nospam said:

> their servers will undoubtedly be overloaded.
> 
> they really fucked up with ios 2 or 3 (not sure which), when they
> released the new iphone at the same time as releasing the new ios
> version, and that completely overwhelmed their servers, so much so that
> new iphones could not be activated because the servers weren't
> responding. it's quite a bit worse when you have a customer in the
> store and can't activate their phone.
> 
> now they stagger the release, with ios coming out a few days before the
> phones do (plus they have upgraded their servers too). that spreads the
> load, at least a little bit.

I've never had issues with capacity on major release days.  Remember 
they released OS X 10.8.5 and an iTunes update today too.  Their stuff 
can handle it.  ;)

> <snip>

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#17583

Jesse wrote:
> On 2013-09-18 10:01:48 +0000, nospam said:
>
>> their servers will undoubtedly be overloaded.
>>
>> they really fucked up with ios 2 or 3 (not sure which), when they
>> released the new iphone at the same time as releasing the new ios
>> version, and that completely overwhelmed their servers, so much so that
>> new iphones could not be activated because the servers weren't
>> responding. it's quite a bit worse when you have a customer in the
>> store and can't activate their phone.
>>
>> now they stagger the release, with ios coming out a few days before the
>> phones do (plus they have upgraded their servers too). that spreads the
>> load, at least a little bit.
>
> I've never had issues with capacity on major release days.  Remember
> they released OS X 10.8.5 and an iTunes update today too.  Their stuff
> can handle it.  ;)
>
>> <snip>
>
I updated both my iPhone and iPad.
Worked great. However it took 7 tries to download on and authenticate 
the upgrade on my iPhone and 8 tries on my iPad.

-- 
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.      "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net    mailto:pjonescet@comcast.net

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#17588

In article <l1dvbn$853$1@news.albasani.net>, PhillipJones
<pjonescet@comcast.net> wrote:

> > I've never had issues with capacity on major release days.  Remember
> > they released OS X 10.8.5 and an iTunes update today too.  Their stuff
> > can handle it.  ;)
> >
> >
> I updated both my iPhone and iPad.
> Worked great. However it took 7 tries to download on and authenticate 
> the upgrade on my iPhone and 8 tries on my iPad.

which means their servers still can't handle the load.

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#17591

In article <l1dvbn$853$1@news.albasani.net>,
 PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> wrote:

> Jesse wrote:
> > On 2013-09-18 10:01:48 +0000, nospam said:
> >
> >> their servers will undoubtedly be overloaded.
> >>
> >> they really fucked up with ios 2 or 3 (not sure which), when they
> >> released the new iphone at the same time as releasing the new ios
> >> version, and that completely overwhelmed their servers, so much so that
> >> new iphones could not be activated because the servers weren't
> >> responding. it's quite a bit worse when you have a customer in the
> >> store and can't activate their phone.
> >>
> >> now they stagger the release, with ios coming out a few days before the
> >> phones do (plus they have upgraded their servers too). that spreads the
> >> load, at least a little bit.
> >
> > I've never had issues with capacity on major release days.  Remember
> > they released OS X 10.8.5 and an iTunes update today too.  Their stuff
> > can handle it.  ;)
> >
> >> <snip>
> >
> I updated both my iPhone and iPad.
> Worked great. However it took 7 tries to download on and authenticate 
> the upgrade on my iPhone and 8 tries on my iPad.

I was having similar problems but found that updating through (the 
updated) iTunes via USB connection to be relatively quick.

-- 
PRAY, v.  To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf
of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. -- Ambrose Bierce

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#17619

Tom Stiller wrote:
> In article <l1dvbn$853$1@news.albasani.net>,
>   PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Jesse wrote:
>>> On 2013-09-18 10:01:48 +0000, nospam said:
>>>
>>>> their servers will undoubtedly be overloaded.
>>>>
>>>> they really fucked up with ios 2 or 3 (not sure which), when they
>>>> released the new iphone at the same time as releasing the new ios
>>>> version, and that completely overwhelmed their servers, so much so that
>>>> new iphones could not be activated because the servers weren't
>>>> responding. it's quite a bit worse when you have a customer in the
>>>> store and can't activate their phone.
>>>>
>>>> now they stagger the release, with ios coming out a few days before the
>>>> phones do (plus they have upgraded their servers too). that spreads the
>>>> load, at least a little bit.
>>>
>>> I've never had issues with capacity on major release days.  Remember
>>> they released OS X 10.8.5 and an iTunes update today too.  Their stuff
>>> can handle it.  ;)
>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>
>> I updated both my iPhone and iPad.
>> Worked great. However it took 7 tries to download on and authenticate
>> the upgrade on my iPhone and 8 tries on my iPad.
>
> I was having similar problems but found that updating through (the
> updated) iTunes via USB connection to be relatively quick.
>
I tried both way didn't make any difference I use WiFi attached to cable 
modem

-- 
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.      "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net    mailto:pjonescet@comcast.net

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#17587

In article <2013091822513689286-jesserehmer@blueworldhostingcom>, Jesse
<jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:

> > their servers will undoubtedly be overloaded.
> > 
> > they really fucked up with ios 2 or 3 (not sure which), when they
> > released the new iphone at the same time as releasing the new ios
> > version, and that completely overwhelmed their servers, so much so that
> > new iphones could not be activated because the servers weren't
> > responding. it's quite a bit worse when you have a customer in the
> > store and can't activate their phone.
> > 
> > now they stagger the release, with ios coming out a few days before the
> > phones do (plus they have upgraded their servers too). that spreads the
> > load, at least a little bit.
> 
> I've never had issues with capacity on major release days.  Remember 
> they released OS X 10.8.5 and an iTunes update today too.  Their stuff 
> can handle it.  ;)

no it can't. people had numerous timeouts all day long. their servers
were seriously overloaded. itunes also said it needed updating even
when it didn't. quite a bit was broken.

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#17618

nospam wrote:
> In article <2013091822513689286-jesserehmer@blueworldhostingcom>, Jesse
> <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
>
>>> their servers will undoubtedly be overloaded.
>>>
>>> they really fucked up with ios 2 or 3 (not sure which), when they
>>> released the new iphone at the same time as releasing the new ios
>>> version, and that completely overwhelmed their servers, so much so that
>>> new iphones could not be activated because the servers weren't
>>> responding. it's quite a bit worse when you have a customer in the
>>> store and can't activate their phone.
>>>
>>> now they stagger the release, with ios coming out a few days before the
>>> phones do (plus they have upgraded their servers too). that spreads the
>>> load, at least a little bit.
>>
>> I've never had issues with capacity on major release days.  Remember
>> they released OS X 10.8.5 and an iTunes update today too.  Their stuff
>> can handle it.  ;)
>
> no it can't. people had numerous timeouts all day long. their servers
> were seriously overloaded. itunes also said it needed updating even
> when it didn't. quite a bit was broken.
>
It took me 7 tries on my iPhone and 8 tries on my iPad to update to IOS7
So far the only thing I see aggravating with the new system is having to 
punch in pass code before you can do any thing.

-- 
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.      "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net    mailto:pjonescet@comcast.net

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#17624

On 9/19/13 10:52 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>> In article <2013091822513689286-jesserehmer@blueworldhostingcom>, Jesse
>> <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> their servers will undoubtedly be overloaded.
>>>>
>>>> they really fucked up with ios 2 or 3 (not sure which), when they
>>>> released the new iphone at the same time as releasing the new ios
>>>> version, and that completely overwhelmed their servers, so much so that
>>>> new iphones could not be activated because the servers weren't
>>>> responding. it's quite a bit worse when you have a customer in the
>>>> store and can't activate their phone.
>>>>
>>>> now they stagger the release, with ios coming out a few days before the
>>>> phones do (plus they have upgraded their servers too). that spreads the
>>>> load, at least a little bit.
>>>
>>> I've never had issues with capacity on major release days.  Remember
>>> they released OS X 10.8.5 and an iTunes update today too.  Their stuff
>>> can handle it.  ;)
>>
>> no it can't. people had numerous timeouts all day long. their servers
>> were seriously overloaded. itunes also said it needed updating even
>> when it didn't. quite a bit was broken.
>>
> It took me 7 tries on my iPhone and 8 tries on my iPad to update to IOS7
> So far the only thing I see aggravating with the new system is having to
> punch in pass code before you can do any thing.
>


You can disable that under settings|general|passcode lock...but do write 
down the passcode you created when you did the initial setup after the 
system upgrade.

-- 
...William Munny, a known thief and murderer, a man of notoriously 
vicious and intemperate disposition.
                           --Unforgiven

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#17637

William Munny wrote:
> On 9/19/13 10:52 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
>> nospam wrote:
>>> In article <2013091822513689286-jesserehmer@blueworldhostingcom>, Jesse
>>> <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> their servers will undoubtedly be overloaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> they really fucked up with ios 2 or 3 (not sure which), when they
>>>>> released the new iphone at the same time as releasing the new ios
>>>>> version, and that completely overwhelmed their servers, so much so
>>>>> that
>>>>> new iphones could not be activated because the servers weren't
>>>>> responding. it's quite a bit worse when you have a customer in the
>>>>> store and can't activate their phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> now they stagger the release, with ios coming out a few days before
>>>>> the
>>>>> phones do (plus they have upgraded their servers too). that spreads
>>>>> the
>>>>> load, at least a little bit.
>>>>
>>>> I've never had issues with capacity on major release days.  Remember
>>>> they released OS X 10.8.5 and an iTunes update today too.  Their stuff
>>>> can handle it.  ;)
>>>
>>> no it can't. people had numerous timeouts all day long. their servers
>>> were seriously overloaded. itunes also said it needed updating even
>>> when it didn't. quite a bit was broken.
>>>
>> It took me 7 tries on my iPhone and 8 tries on my iPad to update to IOS7
>> So far the only thing I see aggravating with the new system is having to
>> punch in pass code before you can do any thing.
>>
>
>
> You can disable that under settings|general|passcode lock...but do write
> down the passcode you created when you did the initial setup after the
> system upgrade.
>
Go it figured out.

-- 
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.      "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net    mailto:pjonescet@comcast.net

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#17853

If it's any comfort 7.0.2 is now out.

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#17854

On 9/30/13 1:29 PM, gtr wrote:
> If it's any comfort 7.0.2 is now out.
>

I just wish that I had been as cautious with iTunes 11.1 :-(

-- 
"Guarded by a tired cohort of Roman Heavy Infantry"

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#17878

In article <2013093010291475015-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> If it's any comfort 7.0.2 is now out.

Old news. It was out on September 26th.

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#17879

In article <jollyroger-E1B616.11174701102013@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> > If it's any comfort 7.0.2 is now out.
> 
> Old news. It was out on September 26th.

they didn't push it to everyone at the same time. 

some people got it only a day or two ago.

and he didn't say when it came out anyway. what he said was correct,
that 7.0.2 is now out, and it is.

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#17884

In article <011020131424094183%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-E1B616.11174701102013@news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > > If it's any comfort 7.0.2 is now out.
> > 
> > Old news. It was out on September 26th.
> 
> they didn't push it to everyone at the same time. 
> 
> some people got it only a day or two ago.
> 
> and he didn't say when it came out anyway. what he said was correct,
> that 7.0.2 is now out, and it is.

It is awful on an iPad mini. You need magnifying glasses to be able to
read. The texts have decreased in size. Worst design ever.

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#17885

In article <021020130904348864%baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl>, Beli
<baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> > > > If it's any comfort 7.0.2 is now out.
> > > 
> > > Old news. It was out on September 26th.
> > 
> > they didn't push it to everyone at the same time. 
> > 
> > some people got it only a day or two ago.
> > 
> > and he didn't say when it came out anyway. what he said was correct,
> > that 7.0.2 is now out, and it is.
> 
> It is awful on an iPad mini. You need magnifying glasses to be able to
> read. The texts have decreased in size. Worst design ever.

no they haven't.

the problem is you have an ipad mini. everything on an ipad mini is
smaller than a regular ipad. that has nothing to do with ios 7. it was
like that with ios 6 too. 

however, what ios 7 does do is offer dynamic text sizing, so just make
the text bigger, and you can also make it bold systemwide too. it's
actually *more* readable than before.

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