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How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it?

Started by"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
First post2015-04-20 00:40 +0000
Last post2015-04-22 09:45 -0400
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  How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 00:40 +0000
    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 18:02 -0700
      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:20 +0000
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 22:22 -0400
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 22:35 -0400
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 03:02 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-22 12:10 -0700
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:33 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 02:37 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 03:13 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:08 +0000
    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 18:04 -0700
      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 21:35 -0400
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 18:42 -0700
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 02:15 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 02:32 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 22:32 -0400
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:43 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 03:28 +0000
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-20 08:12 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 20:15 +1200
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-20 09:43 +0000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:44 -0700
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-22 18:13 +0000
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-22 12:24 -0700
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-04-26 18:38 -0700
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-20 08:00 -0400
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-04-25 20:32 -0700
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-26 13:37 +0000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-04-26 08:38 -0700
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-26 15:39 +0000
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? tmo1138 <tmo1138@tmo1138.org> - 2015-04-26 18:39 -0700
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-19 22:30 -0500
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 04:06 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:22 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-19 21:42 -0700
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 01:15 -0500
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:22 +0000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:43 +0000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 01:41 -0500
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-20 10:15 +0100
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-20 08:00 -0400
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:28 +0000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-20 10:17 +0100
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-20 08:00 -0400
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:30 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-21 18:33 -0700
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-21 10:24 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-21 13:40 +0000
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:11 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 22:22 -0400
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:30 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 22:33 -0400
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 02:36 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-19 21:20 -0700
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:24 +0000
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 21:54 -0700
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 05:28 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 18:49 +1200
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:17 +0000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 20:12 +1200
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:15 -0700
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:44 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 22:46 -0400
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 03:31 +0000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 20:37 -0700
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 04:20 +0000
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:31 +0000
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 05:42 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 23:03 -0700
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:33 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-20 19:11 +1000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-20 10:22 +0100
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:08 +0000
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-21 03:36 +1200
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 13:16 -0500
                                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-21 09:07 +1200
                                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-20 16:18 -0700
                                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-21 11:38 +1000
                                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-21 10:06 -0700
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 21:53 -0700
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 05:49 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 23:07 -0700
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:39 +0000
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:08 -0700
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:21 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 18:49 +1200
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:22 +0000
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:23 +0000
                                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-21 03:36 +1200
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-22 12:27 -0700
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:19 +0000
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-20 18:32 +1200
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:51 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-20 19:08 +1200
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:26 +0000
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:39 +0000
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-20 10:26 +0100
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-20 13:09 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 20:12 +1200
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-20 10:25 +0100
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-20 09:44 +0000
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-20 10:52 +0100
                                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-20 10:03 +0000
                                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-20 15:41 +0100
                                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 15:07 +0000
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-20 13:01 +0000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:14 +0000
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 04:34 +0000
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:41 +0000
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 05:35 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 22:59 -0700
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:32 +0000
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:06 +0000
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 21:46 -0700
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 05:12 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 05:45 +0000
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 18:49 +1200
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:17 +0000
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:17 +0000
                                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-21 03:36 +1200
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:16 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 22:57 -0700
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:32 +0000
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 23:36 -0700
                                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:46 +0000
                                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 19:06 +1200
                                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:18 +0000
                                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 20:12 +1200
                                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:14 -0700
                                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:34 +0000
                                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 14:36 +0000
                                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:57 -0700
                                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 15:05 +0000
                                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:12 -0700
                                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:33 +0000
                                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-22 12:30 -0700
                                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-23 09:19 +1200
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:32 +0000
                                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:49 -0700
                                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 15:04 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-20 14:58 +1200
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 03:56 +0000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:19 +0000
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 04:43 +0000
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:48 +0000
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 05:56 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 23:04 -0700
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:42 +0000
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 19:06 +1200
                                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:27 +0000
                                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 20:12 +1200
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-20 01:42 -0700
                                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 21:06 +1200
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:11 -0700
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-19 21:37 -0700
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:44 +0000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 21:42 -0700
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 05:50 +0000
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 23:04 -0700
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:39 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:09 -0700
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:23 +0000
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 18:49 +1200
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:26 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-20 12:42 +0000
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-20 15:41 +0100
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-19 21:26 -0700
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-20 10:18 +0100
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-20 03:35 +0000
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 04:47 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:51 +0000
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 05:57 +0000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:36 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-20 02:30 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 20:34 -0700
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 04:58 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 05:30 +0000
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:00 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 18:49 +1200
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:28 +0000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 20:13 +1200
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:25 -0700
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:37 +0000
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-21 03:36 +1200
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:36 +0000
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 12:35 -0500
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 17:44 +0000
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 15:13 -0500
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 20:35 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 22:55 -0700
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:53 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 20:13 +1200
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:25 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:32 -0700
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 18:49 +1200
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-19 21:06 -0700
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-20 00:25 -0400
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-20 14:33 +1000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 05:10 +0000
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 18:49 +1200
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:10 +0000
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 20:13 +1200
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-20 19:44 +1000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 05:08 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-20 12:10 -0400
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? billy@MIX.COM - 2015-04-20 16:34 +0000
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-21 11:17 +1000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 07:13 -0400
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-20 08:28 -0700
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-20 08:32 -0700
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-21 10:22 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-21 18:32 -0700
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-22 02:03 -0400
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-21 23:31 -0700
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-21 22:53 -0700
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-22 18:28 +1200
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 08:17 -0400
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 04:16 +1200
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 13:06 -0400
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-23 09:00 +1200
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-22 09:06 -0500
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-22 11:13 -0400
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-22 10:57 -0500
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-22 09:30 -0700
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 16:52 +0000
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-22 17:30 +0100
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 05:11 +1200
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-22 13:25 -0400
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 17:35 +0000
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-22 13:50 -0400
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 18:56 +0000
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-22 13:53 -0400
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 07:10 +1200
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 07:09 +1200
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-22 16:53 -0400
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 10:42 +1200
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-22 15:52 -0700
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 11:03 +1200
                                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 23:35 +0000
                                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 12:50 +1200
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 23:33 +0000
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-23 07:36 +1000
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 22:00 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 10:55 +1200
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 23:36 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Crosby Livingston <crosbylivingston44584@verizon.net> - 2015-04-22 22:52 -0500
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-23 09:18 +1200
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 17:32 +0000
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 07:10 +1200
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-22 17:00 -0400
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 10:55 +1200
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-22 15:56 -0700
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 23:57 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-23 00:57 +0000
                                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-23 13:09 +1200
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-22 20:19 -0700
                                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-22 20:21 -0700
                                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-23 08:46 +0100
                              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 22:01 +0000
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 13:08 -0400
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 17:31 +0000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-22 12:21 -0700
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-22 13:22 -0400
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 14:05 -0400
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-22 12:23 -0700
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-24 06:54 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-22 09:40 -0700
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-22 08:14 -0700
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-04-22 10:30 -0600
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-22 18:15 +0000
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 07:10 +1200
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-20 12:19 +1000
    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 20:50 -0400
      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:05 +0000
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 02:11 +0000
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:32 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 02:35 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:47 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 22:48 -0400
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 03:01 +0000
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:05 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 20:31 -0700
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:12 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:00 +0000
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:38 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-22 12:17 -0700
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 22:16 -0400
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 02:30 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 03:00 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 03:05 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:16 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-20 03:25 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:10 +0000
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 02:18 -0500
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:44 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-20 12:57 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 19:07 +1200
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:31 +0000
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 20:13 +1200
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:35 -0700
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-21 03:36 +1200
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 09:46 -0700
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-22 12:19 -0700
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 19:07 +1200
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 02:23 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 22:29 -0400
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:59 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-20 03:29 +0000
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:08 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:39 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 19:07 +1200
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:30 +0000
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 20:13 +1200
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:41 -0700
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-21 03:36 +1200
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-21 11:09 +1000
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 20:51 -0500
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-21 13:17 +1000
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-22 12:23 -0700
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-23 07:34 +1200
                        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 15:43 -0400
                          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 17:48 -0400
                            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-23 21:03 -0700
                    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:54 +0000
                      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-21 03:36 +1200
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:36 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 22:38 -0400
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 19:07 +1200
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 22:39 -0400
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:17 +0000
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:37 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 02:38 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:17 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 03:01 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-20 03:33 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:14 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 06:57 +0000
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:46 +0000
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:54 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 03:03 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:01 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-20 07:34 -0700
                  Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-21 03:36 +1200
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:50 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 19:07 +1200
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-20 00:21 -0400
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-20 16:28 +1200
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:02 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:51 +0000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-22 12:25 -0700
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-22 12:16 -0700
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-22 22:07 +0000
    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 01:57 +0000
      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 02:27 +0000
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 03:23 +0000
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 20:27 -0700
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 23:38 -0400
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:04 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:51 +0000
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-22 12:12 -0700
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:10 +0000
      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-19 22:28 -0400
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 03:25 +0000
      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 02:23 +0000
    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-19 22:10 -0500
      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-20 13:52 +1000
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-19 23:35 -0500
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 04:43 +0000
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-19 21:55 -0700
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 02:07 -0500
              Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:34 +0000
                Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 14:57 +0000
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-20 18:08 +1000
            Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-20 10:33 -0500
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-20 12:13 -0400
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-20 16:42 +0000
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-21 11:21 +1000
    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-19 20:59 -0700
      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-04-21 15:07 -0400
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-21 12:19 -0700
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-21 14:37 -0700
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-21 16:24 -0700
    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 16:53 +1200
      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-04-20 07:09 +0000
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-20 20:13 +1200
    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-04-21 10:19 +0000
    Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-04-21 18:28 -0700
      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-04-21 21:40 -0400
        Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-22 03:32 +0000
          Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 08:15 -0400
      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-22 12:07 +1000
      Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-04-22 09:45 -0400

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#29380

FromAlan Baker <email@domain.com>
Date2015-04-22 12:12 -0700
Message-ID<mh8rr2$4l4$2@news.datemas.de>
In reply to#29142
On 2015-04-20 07:04:40 +0000, Adam H. Kerman said:

> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> 190420152338587793nospamospam@nospam.invalid
> 
>> *one* app doesn't have it in the save panel.
>> 
>> what other apps do is likely to be different.
> 
> I do agree that every app can be different.
> I'm *only* speaking about the default text editor in this thread.

There really isn't a default text editor on the Mac. There is a text 
editor it happens to have included.

> Certainly, I had *expected* a default text editor to be able to "save as"
> plain text, so it was a shocker that you have to find the plain text
> option in a different menu sequence.

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#29117

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-04-20 04:10 +0000
Message-ID<cpjci6F7dq8U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#29033
On 2015-04-20, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message
> cpj6g3F5p92U5@mid.individual.net
>
>> 1. Open TextEdit.
>> 2. Change Preferences > New Document > Format: Plain text.
>
> Thanks. 
>
> Only nospam, up to your post above, had actually explained *how* 
> to unhide the hidden option for the default text editor to save as 
> portable ASCII text files.

Bullshit. You ignored other responses that told you how to do it.

> Now everything is fine.

Not really. You changed preferences on a machine that is not yours. I
told you a simpler and better way but you ignored it.

> What I learned was two important things about Macintosh protocols.

You haven't learned anything at all.

> 1. In most operating system, you have a variety of options of how you 
>    want to create your ASCII text files but on the Macintosh, one of
>    those options doesn't exist.

Bullshit. 

> 2. In most default text editors (on other operating systems), you can
>    immediately save the file as ASCII text but on the Macintosh, you
>    have to know to first unhide the hidden option to save ASCII text
>    as ASCII text (because the default text editor defaults to RTL).

That's a lie.

> Thanks for helping me understand how mac users create text files.

You understand nothing, troll.

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#28996

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-04-19 22:28 -0400
Message-ID<190420152228173386%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#28982
In article <mh1nul$3dm$6@news.albasani.net>, Adam H. Kerman
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> Which of these TextEdit "Save As" options is the ASCII text option 

its not in save as. pay attention. you set the app to plain text in the
app and then it will save plain text.

and don't even waste your time with text edit. get text wrangler. 

<http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/>

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#29034

From"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
Date2015-04-20 03:25 +0000
Message-ID<mh1ris$i5o$3@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#28996
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
190420152228173386nospamospam@nospam.invalid

> its not in save as. pay attention. you set the app to plain text in the
> app and then it will save plain text.

I don't have the Macintosh in front of me now, as the person who was 
asking for help went home, but I will need to check tomorrow if unhiding
the hidden option for the default text editor to save ASCII text actually
disabled the Save As dialog by mistake.

Thanks for that warning. I'll have to check tomorrow to see if there is
still the option to Save As, or if that option now disappears.

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#29000

From"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
Date2015-04-20 02:23 +0000
Message-ID<mh1nul$3dm$6@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#28982
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message
cpj4o2F5p92U1@mid.individual.net
 
> 1. Open TextEdit (or any text editor).
> 2. Save the file wherever you want it.
> 3. There is no step 3.

Which of these TextEdit "Save As" options is the ASCII text option 
(so that I can save the file as a portable filename.txt)?
http://i.imgur.com/FDYa45h.png

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#29035

FromDavid Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
Date2015-04-19 22:10 -0500
Message-ID<alpine.OSX.2.20.1504192135570.57809@mako.ath.cx>
In reply to#28976
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On Monday, 20 April 2015 00:40 -0000, 
 in article <mh1htc$3dm$2@news.albasani.net>, 
 Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> Since the Mac is different from what I am used to, I am sure I am 
> doing something very wrong since it can't be this complex to do 
> something as simple as create an empty text file where you want it 
> to exist with a file name that indicates it's a text file.

It's quite easy, actually.

> Given the simple goal of 
> a) Creating a blank text file
> b) In a desired location
> c) With some indication that it's a text file
> How would a Mac user have done this task?

The easiest way I can come up with, to create a new text file, in the 
directory of your choice, is via Terminal application, found in 
/Applications/Utilities/.  To create the file, type

    touch /full/path/to/file.txt

 $ touch ~/Desktop/file.txt

 $ ls -alF ~/Desktop/file.txt
 -rw-r--r--+ 1 dritz  staff  0 Apr 19 21:42 /Users/dritz/Desktop/file.txt

 $ file /Users/dritz/Desktop/file.txt
 /Users/dritz/Desktop/file.txt: empty

Is that empty enough for you, Adam?

Optionally, a Mac user might launch whatever text editor they're 
using, create a new document within the application and save it to 
disk, wherever you want it to exist, within the Save dialog.  Common 
GUI Mac text editors include TextWrangler (free) and BBEdit (paid), 
both from Bare Bones Software.  Common CLI text editors, found in a 
default Mac installation include ed, vi (asiased to vim), nano and 
emacs, all of which are quite common on Unix and Unix-like platforms.

/Applications/TextEdit.app is even usable for the creation of an empty 
text file, although I find it extremely limited for actual text 
editing and formatting.

-- 
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
 Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.

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#29049

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2015-04-20 13:52 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-0B0122.13525720042015@aioe.org>
In reply to#29035
In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504192135570.57809@mako.ath.cx>,
 David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

> The easiest way I can come up with, to create a new text file, in the 
> directory of your choice, is via Terminal application, found in 
> /Applications/Utilities/.  To create the file, type
> 
>     touch /full/path/to/file.txt
> 
>  $ touch ~/Desktop/file.txt
> 
>  $ ls -alF ~/Desktop/file.txt
>  -rw-r--r--+ 1 dritz  staff  0 Apr 19 21:42 /Users/dritz/Desktop/file.txt
> 
>  $ file /Users/dritz/Desktop/file.txt
>  /Users/dritz/Desktop/file.txt: empty

That's the easiest way eh on a Mac? Did you have a common-sense bypass 
at some stage?

-- 
dorayme

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#29070

FromDavid Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
Date2015-04-19 23:35 -0500
Message-ID<alpine.OSX.2.20.1504192302500.57809@mako.ath.cx>
In reply to#29049
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On Monday, 20 April 2015 13:52 +1000, 
 in article <do_ray_me-0B0122.13525720042015@aioe.org>, 
 dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504192135570.57809@mako.ath.cx>,
>  David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

>> The easiest way I can come up with, to create a new text file, in 
>> the directory of your choice, is via Terminal application, found in 
>> /Applications/Utilities/.  To create the file, type

>>     touch /full/path/to/file.txt

> That's the easiest way eh on a Mac? Did you have a common-sense 
> bypass at some stage?

Criticize all you like, but I've yet to see anyone else offer a one 
step, or even two step solution.  ;)

The solution Adam appears to have ended up using, TextEdit.app, 
required many, not necessarily intuitive steps.  IIRC, I'm the only 
person to point out that his specific request for ASCII encoding 
required changing yet another default, as TextEdit defaults to UTF-8 
(good), but ASCII isn't even among the default choices available, in 
the application's Save as dialog.

Of course, I understand that he should have been asking about plain 
text, rather than a quite specific ASCII text encoding, as these are 
different concepts.

Do you have a problem with a simple, quite straight forward way of 
creating an empty text file, as requested.  After it's been created, 
double-clicking on that file will, by default, open as a plain text 
file, in TextEdit, for editing.

(Here, it will open in BBEdit 11.0.3, as it is configured as _my_ 
default GUI text editor.  Rich text files still open in TextEdit, by 
default.)

-- 
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#29076

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-04-20 04:43 +0000
Message-ID<cpjeg9F7dq8U11@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#29070
On 2015-04-20, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> On Monday, 20 April 2015 13:52 +1000, 
>  in article <do_ray_me-0B0122.13525720042015@aioe.org>, 
>  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504192135570.57809@mako.ath.cx>,
>>  David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>> The easiest way I can come up with, to create a new text file, in 
>>> the directory of your choice, is via Terminal application, found in 
>>> /Applications/Utilities/.  To create the file, type
>
>>>     touch /full/path/to/file.txt
>
>> That's the easiest way eh on a Mac? Did you have a common-sense 
>> bypass at some stage?
>
> Criticize all you like, but I've yet to see anyone else offer a one 
> step, or even two step solution.  ;)

In TextEdit:

1. Choose Format > Make Plain Text.
2. Save.

Good enough for me.

> The solution Adam appears to have ended up using, TextEdit.app, 
> required many, not necessarily intuitive steps.

No, he just chose the most complicated one, as usual.

> IIRC, I'm the only 
> person to point out that his specific request for ASCII encoding 
> required changing yet another default, as TextEdit defaults to UTF-8 
> (good), but ASCII isn't even among the default choices available, in 
> the application's Save as dialog.

Bull. All he needed to do was choose Format > Make Plain Text *before*
saving the document. No preferences needed to be changed.

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#29085

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-04-19 21:55 -0700
Message-ID<190420152155298082%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#29070
In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504192302500.57809@mako.ath.cx>, David
Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Criticize all you like, but I've yet to see anyone else offer a one 
> step, or even two step solution.  ;)

You haven't been paying attention.

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#29151

FromDavid Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
Date2015-04-20 02:07 -0500
Message-ID<alpine.OSX.2.20.1504200200150.57809@mako.ath.cx>
In reply to#29085
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On Sunday, 19 April 2015 21:55 -0700, 
 in article <190420152155298082%michelle@michelle.org>, 
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504192302500.57809@mako.ath.cx>, David
> Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

>> Criticize all you like, but I've yet to see anyone else offer a one 
>> step, or even two step solution.  ;)

> You haven't been paying attention.

Oh, but I have.  JF mentioned the use of touch, later in the thread.

Only a few of the TextEdit instruction sets have mentioned creating a 
new file; none have mentioned navigating the Save dialog box to the 
directory where the file is to be saved.  You may not count these as 
steps, but I do.

-- 
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#29165

From"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
Date2015-04-20 07:34 +0000
Message-ID<mh2a5r$i5o$58@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#29151
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote in message
alpine.OSX.2.20.1504200200150.57809@mako.ath.cx

> Only a few of the TextEdit instruction sets have mentioned creating a
> new file; none have mentioned navigating the Save dialog box to the
> directory where the file is to be saved.  You may not count these as
> steps, but I do.

You, of all those who have posted, understand the concept of steps!
Thank you!

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#29242

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-04-20 14:57 +0000
Message-ID<cpkiehFg4haU23@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#29165
On 2015-04-20, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> alpine.OSX.2.20.1504200200150.57809@mako.ath.cx
>
>> Only a few of the TextEdit instruction sets have mentioned creating a
>> new file; none have mentioned navigating the Save dialog box to the
>> directory where the file is to be saved.  You may not count these as
>> steps, but I do.
>
> You, of all those who have posted, understand the concept of steps!
> Thank you!

Having been employed as a professional technical writer, I completely
understand the concept of steps, possibly better than you. 

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#29170

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2015-04-20 18:08 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-60842F.18084620042015@aioe.org>
In reply to#29070
In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504192302500.57809@mako.ath.cx>,
 David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

Just btw mind you, your posts have always reminded me of flashing neon 
signs in glitzy metro areas, all the extra irrelevant signage that 
appears in my newsreader! 
 
> On Monday, 20 April 2015 13:52 +1000, 
>  in article <do_ray_me-0B0122.13525720042015@aioe.org>, 
>  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504192135570.57809@mako.ath.cx>,
> >  David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> >> The easiest way I can come up with, to create a new text file, in 
> >> the directory of your choice, is via Terminal application, found in 
> >> /Applications/Utilities/.  To create the file, type
> 
> >>     touch /full/path/to/file.txt
> 
> > That's the easiest way eh on a Mac? Did you have a common-sense 
> > bypass at some stage?
> 
> Criticize all you like, but I've yet to see anyone else offer a one 
> step, or even two step solution.  ;)
>

It's a one or two step solution in my Text-Edit. Just click the 
dropdown item in the format menu when beginning.
 
> The solution Adam appears to have ended up using, TextEdit.app, 
> required many, not necessarily intuitive steps.  IIRC, I'm the only 
> person to point out that his specific request for ASCII encoding 
> required changing yet another default, as TextEdit defaults to UTF-8 
> (good), but ASCII isn't even among the default choices available, in 
> the application's Save as dialog.
> 
> Of course, I understand that he should have been asking about plain 
> text, rather than a quite specific ASCII text encoding, as these are 
> different concepts.
>

OK. 
  
> Do you have a problem with a simple, quite straight forward way of 
> creating an empty text file, as requested.  

No, I don't have a problem but it feels complicated to ask a windoze 
bloke who in turn is helping to show a Mac user (who ipso facto is 
likely a bit of a novice) to create a text file... 


> After it's been created, 
> double-clicking on that file will, by default, open as a plain text 
> file, in TextEdit, for editing.
> 
> (Here, it will open in BBEdit 11.0.3, as it is configured as _my_ 
> default GUI text editor.  Rich text files still open in TextEdit, by 
> default.)

Your way is interesting and beautiful and I am sending you two 
kangaroos for you to kill and eat, the meat is very healthy and lean. 
You need to skill up to cook it right, it's a big mistake to overcook 
it as steak.

-- 
dorayme

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#29249

FromDavid Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
Date2015-04-20 10:33 -0500
Message-ID<alpine.OSX.2.20.1504201014400.57809@mako.ath.cx>
In reply to#29170
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On Monday, 20 April 2015 18:08 +1000, 
 in article <do_ray_me-60842F.18084620042015@aioe.org>, 
 dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504192302500.57809@mako.ath.cx>,
>  David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

>> On Monday, 20 April 2015 13:52 +1000, 
>>  in article <do_ray_me-0B0122.13525720042015@aioe.org>, 
>>  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

>>> In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504192135570.57809@mako.ath.cx>,
>>>  David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

>>>> The easiest way I can come up with, to create a new text file, in 
>>>> the directory of your choice, is via Terminal application, found 
>>>> in /Applications/Utilities/.  To create the file, type

>>>>     touch /full/path/to/file.txt

>>> That's the easiest way eh on a Mac? Did you have a common-sense 
>>> bypass at some stage?

>> Criticize all you like, but I've yet to see anyone else offer a one 
>> step, or even two step solution.  ;)

> It's a one or two step solution in my Text-Edit. Just click the 
> dropdown item in the format menu when beginning.

You left out one or two steps, one of which is navigating to the 
correct directory in the Save dialog.

>> Do you have a problem with a simple, quite straight forward way of 
>> creating an empty text file, as requested.

> No, I don't have a problem but it feels complicated to ask a windoze 
> bloke who in turn is helping to show a Mac user (who ipso facto is 
> likely a bit of a novice) to create a text file...

Adam may be a Mac novice, but he's no novice to Usenet and computing.  
I'm semi-familiar with him, as he's a regular in alt.config and a few 
other Usenet specific newsgroups.

Adam may be best served by thinking of OS X as a slick GUI shell, 
running on Unix (Darwin, a BSD variant).  Chances are he is familiar 
with editing text files from the command line.  I pointed him to the 
command line and mentioned a few CLI editors, at least one of which 
he's used previously.

While suggesting ...

    vim /full/path/to/file.txt

... might have worked for him, I'm quite certain it would have left 
his friend baffled and befuddled.

-- 
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
 Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.

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#29258

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-20 12:13 -0400
Message-ID<5535258c$0$19438$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#29049
In article <do_ray_me-0B0122.13525720042015@aioe.org>,
 dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> That's the easiest way eh on a Mac? Did you have a common-sense bypass 
> at some stage?

Actually, I agree with him. It is in fact the easiest way to create an 
empty file that the system will recognize as a plain-text file. I always 
have a terminal open anyway. I create files that way sometimes.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#29260

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-04-20 16:42 +0000
Message-ID<cpkoj4Fig8hU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#29258
On 2015-04-20, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <do_ray_me-0B0122.13525720042015@aioe.org>,
>  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>> That's the easiest way eh on a Mac? Did you have a common-sense bypass 
>> at some stage?
>
> Actually, I agree with him. It is in fact the easiest way to create an 
> empty file that the system will recognize as a plain-text file. I always 
> have a terminal open anyway. I create files that way sometimes.

I use touch to create files all the time too - when I am already on the
command line. I definitely don't open a terminal window *just* to create
files, since there are much faster / better ways to do that from the
GUI.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#29279

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2015-04-21 11:21 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-FECBF4.11213621042015@aioe.org>
In reply to#29258
In article <5535258c$0$19438$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com>,
 Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <do_ray_me-0B0122.13525720042015@aioe.org>,
>  dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > That's the easiest way eh on a Mac? Did you have a common-sense bypass 
> > at some stage?
> 
> Actually, I agree with him. It is in fact the easiest way to create an 
> empty file that the system will recognize as a plain-text file. I always 
> have a terminal open anyway. I create files that way sometimes.

I am convinced about it being an easy way. Just that I baulked at a 
non-Mac teacher teaching a novice Mac user via Terminal. Seemed 
bizarre. 

--
You can kiss a duck's bum, but you have to be quick.

-- 
dorayme

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#29053

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2015-04-19 20:59 -0700
Message-ID<2015041920590119679-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>
In reply to#28976
On 2015-04-20 00:40:12 +0000, Adam H. Kerman said:

> I tried to help a friend create a simple text file on
> Macintosh OSX 10.9.5 and it was very difficult.
> 
> Right clicking didn't have any option to create a text file.
> http://i.imgur.com/RkrcG3M.png
> 
> So I had to find an existing text file because I couldn't
> just create an empty text file.
> 
> Once I dug around and found a text file, I then found the
> "duplicate" menu, and I duplicated it to "filename copy",
> but was unable to just cut and paste it without duplicating
> it first.
> 
> After duplicating it, I was able to cut and paste it so
> that I could put it in the folder where I wanted it to be.
> 
> But when I changed the name to a reasonable name to indicate
> it was a text file, the file simply disappeared! (I had named
> it something like filename.txt).
> 
> Having no idea what happened to the file I had just named
> filename.txt, I tried again by duplicating and then cutting
> and pasting without a filename extension, to just a file name
> of "save_text".
> http://i.imgur.com/Vp0LkB4.png
> 
> Only then (after far too many steps), was I able to have a
> text file in the location I wanted it.
> 
> Since the Mac is different from what I am used to, I am sure
> I am doing something very wrong since it can't be this complex
> to do something as simple as create an empty text file where
> you want it to exist with a file name that indicates it's
> a text file.
> 
> Given the simple goal of
> a) Creating a blank text file
> b) In a desired location
> c) With some indication that it's a text file
> How would a Mac user have done this task?

Open *TextEdit* go to the menu *File*->*New* and there it is a new, 
blank, virgin text doc.
Now without typing a single character return to the menu and 
*File*(while holding down the alt/option key)->*Save As*. You will see 
the save dialog which will let you name this file whatever you choose, 
and locate it wherever you want on that computer, in one of several 
text formats.

When you open that file it will be what you wanted, a blank text file.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#29310

FromM-M <nospam@ny.more>
Date2015-04-21 15:07 -0400
Message-ID<210420151507213691%nospam@ny.more>
In reply to#29053
In article <2015041920590119679-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> Open *TextEdit* go to the menu *File*->*New* and there it is a new, 
> blank, virgin text doc.
> Now without typing a single character return to the menu and 
> *File*(while holding down the alt/option key)->*Save As*.


Just "Save". While "Save As..." still works (although not in the menu),
it makes a copy and you still have to deal with the original.

-- 
m-m
http://www.mhmyers.com

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