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| First post | 2015-04-10 21:05 -0400 |
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Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-10 21:05 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-10 19:04 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-10 22:35 -0700
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-11 10:45 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 14:18 -0400
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-11 15:58 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 16:28 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-11 16:53 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-11 22:22 +0000
Re: Apple Watch Jim_Higgins <gordian240@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-11 20:05 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 20:28 -0400
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-12 11:08 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:16 -0400
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-14 20:58 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-14 18:00 -0700
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:14 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-15 08:24 -0700
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-14 22:36 -0400
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:29 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-15 11:42 -0400
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:56 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-15 12:02 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-15 09:44 -0700
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-15 17:14 -0400
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-16 08:10 +1000
Re: Apple Watch John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-14 21:13 -0700
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:20 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 12:52 +0000
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:42 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-15 11:49 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 15:56 +0000
Re: Apple Watch Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-15 22:45 +0000
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 14:18 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-11 21:36 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 11:22 +0000
Re: Apple Watch Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-11 14:16 +0000
Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 19:23 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-12 00:22 +0000
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-12 11:24 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 20:28 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Zar Zifodow <zarzifodow@mailinator.com> - 2015-04-11 19:25 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 07:38 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-12 09:48 -0400
Re: Apple Watch me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-04-12 23:13 +0000
Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 19:30 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-12 16:48 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 08:27 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-13 05:35 -0700
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-13 09:55 +1000
Re: Apple Watch Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-13 07:39 -0400
Re: Apple Watch me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-04-13 04:52 +0000
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-13 15:52 +1000
Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 08:36 -0400
Re: Apple Watch John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-13 18:10 +0100
Re: Apple Watch John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-13 09:59 -0700
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 07:52 +1000
Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 18:49 -0400
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 10:25 +1000
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-13 18:09 -0700
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 13:01 +1000
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-13 20:43 -0700
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 18:34 +1000
Re: Apple Watch Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-14 09:52 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-04-15 16:32 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-15 17:46 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-04-15 20:10 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-15 20:28 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-04-15 20:49 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-15 21:09 -0700
Re: Apple Watch John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-16 07:08 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-16 08:26 -0700
Re: Apple Watch John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-16 09:16 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-04-15 16:22 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-12 16:47 -0700
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-13 20:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2015041320430785121-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com> |
| In reply to | #28829 |
On 2015-04-14 03:01:22 +0000, dorayme said:
> In article <2015041318095568568-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-04-14 00:25:54 +0000, dorayme said:
>>
> ...
>
>>> Saw a program last night on a section of the mountains of Nevada where
>>> that Steve Fossey went down, apparently a very dangerous area for
>>> planes (because of fairly severe and unpredictable weather events).
>>
>> That is in the Eastern Sierras, West of Hwy 395 in the Mammoth Lakes region.
>>
>>> Will be driving through the general area hopefully, Death Valley, I
>>> can't wait!
>>
>> Depending on how you approach Death Valley you might be in the general
>> area. If you get up to Lone Pine and the Alabama Hills you will be in
>> country where many Westerns were made. Just South to Lone Pine Hwy 136
>> heads East to Death Valley NP. Head a little further North to Mono Lake
>> and you will be where Clint Eastwood filmed "High Plains Drifter". Some
>> scenes in other Eastwood movies were done West of Lone Pine.
>>
>>> Always wanted to set foot on American Soil and see where
>>> all the things I have seen here happened.
>>>
>>> For example, Black Rock where Spencer Tracy surprised everyone by
>>> stepping from a rarely stopped train there, later using his only arm
>>> to karate chop Robert Ryan's henchman Ernest Borgine.
>>
>> Black Rock does not exist, it is pure motion picture fabrication. That
>> said, it was filmed just out side of Lone Pine, with the various jeep
>> and other vehicle chases taking place in the Alabama Hills West of Lone
>> Pine. If you want to locate the site go to Google Earth, find Lone
>> Pine, California and search along the old railroad tracks. The Southern
>> Pacific train which featured in "Black Rock" no longer runs.
>
> OK, thanks for the info. There is a Blackrock in California, I think
> it is a bit south of Lone Pine, but maybe not the one where Tracy
> calmly outfoxed the townsfolk.
The movie "Black Rock" was a set, built one mile north of Lone Pine
Station, which was part of the Southern Pacific Railroad "Jawbone
Branch". None of that exists any more. If you are interested use the
coordinates 36.634122,-118.39928 in whatever mapping app you are using
and it will drop a pin right on the location of the former cross road
town "Black Rock". As I said all the boulders, big rocks and blind
canyons are on the otherside, west of Hwy 395, they are still all there.
> Yes, about Cowboy ghosts, I will look for a town painted red, North to
> Mono Lake.
You won't find it. It was built as a set past Lee Vining on the North
Shore of Mono Lake off Hwy 167. It was demolished after filming was
completed as part of the aggrement with the State Park Service.
However, if you want to see a true Western ghost town, head north of
Lee Vining on Hwy 395 to the road turning off to the East which will
take you to Bodie State Historic Park and the ghost town of Bodie.
<http://www.ghosttowngallery.com/htme/bodie.htm>
> By God, I am going to be busy. Have to congratulate U.S. Marshal
> Raylan Givens on some of his draws when I get to Harlan County.
Good luck with that one.
> So much to do, so little time!
--
Regards,
Savageduck
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| From | dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-14 18:34 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <do_ray_me-E5B536.18341114042015@aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #28830 |
In article <2015041320430785121-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2015-04-14 03:01:22 +0000, dorayme said:
>
> > In article <2015041318095568568-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-04-14 00:25:54 +0000, dorayme said:
> >>
> > ...
...
> > ... There is a Blackrock in California, I think
> > it is a bit south of Lone Pine, but maybe not the one where Tracy
> > calmly outfoxed the townsfolk.
>
> The movie "Black Rock" was a set, built one mile north of Lone Pine
> Station, which was part of the Southern Pacific Railroad "Jawbone
> Branch". None of that exists any more. If you are interested use the
> coordinates 36.634122,-118.39928 in whatever mapping app you are using
> and it will drop a pin right on the location of the former cross road
> town "Black Rock". As I said all the boulders, big rocks and blind
> canyons are on the otherside, west of Hwy 395, they are still all there.
>
> > Yes, about Cowboy ghosts, I will look for a town painted red, North to
> > Mono Lake.
>
> You won't find it.
If I was not prepared to have my naive hopes and dreams shattered, I
would not be here on usenet.
> It was built as a set past Lee Vining on the North
> Shore of Mono Lake off Hwy 167. It was demolished after filming was
> completed as part of the agreement with the State Park Service.
>
> However, if you want to see a true Western ghost town, head north of
> Lee Vining on Hwy 395 to the road turning off to the East which will
> take you to Bodie State Historic Park and the ghost town of Bodie.
> <http://www.ghosttowngallery.com/htme/bodie.htm>
>
Thanks for this, I will note this and report back in a few months if
we made it there. We have a few of those sorts here in Australia,
maybe on a smaller scale though, especially old mining ones. And some
towns are *close* to being ghostly but not quite there.
--
dorayme
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-04-14 09:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Q-Odnd2oXPg-hrDInZ2dnUU7-V2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #28829 |
On 2015-04-13 23:01, dorayme wrote: > Yes, about Cowboy ghosts, I will look for a town painted red, North to > Mono Lake. Regarding Mono Lake I assume you'll visit Bodie. It will certainly be to your liking.
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| From | Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 16:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <150420151632514291%leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> |
| In reply to | #28828 |
In article <2015041318095568568-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> Black Rock does not exist, it is pure motion picture fabrication.
You can 'see' Black Rock from Burning Man. Just so anyone doesn't get
the wrong idea, I don't attend Burning Man. I'm just very familiar with
the whole area being discussed. Yeah. It ain't the same Black Rock, but
it does exist.
leo
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 17:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2015041517460814464-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com> |
| In reply to | #28874 |
On 2015-04-15 23:32:51 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell said:
> In article <2015041318095568568-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> Black Rock does not exist, it is pure motion picture fabrication.
>
> You can 'see' Black Rock from Burning Man. Just so anyone doesn't get
> the wrong idea, I don't attend Burning Man. I'm just very familiar with
> the whole area being discussed. Yeah. It ain't the same Black Rock, but
> it does exist.
>
> leo
The movie Black Rock is what I was refering to. Probably the only
remaining building used in the movie, is the old, Lone Pine Depot
building on the abandoned Southern Pacific "Jawbone Branch". That is
now a private home about two miles south of where the movie set was
located.
Since you are in Reno, just take a drive down 395 to Lone Pine and see
for yourself. I'd meet you there, but I am over on the coast, and I
have plans for the next few weeks.
Anyway the old Lone Pine Depot is located at:
36.61980321527675,-118.0407564812928
...and the position of the depot and the former site of the movie set
can be seen marked just North of Lone Pine.
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_99.jpg>
BTW: behind my Savageduck nym, I am usually known as Leonard.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
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| From | Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 20:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <150420152010517194%leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> |
| In reply to | #28876 |
In article <2015041517460814464-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> Since you are in Reno, just take a drive down 395 to Lone Pine and see
> for yourself. I'd meet you there, but I am over on the coast, and I
> have plans for the next few weeks.
I played a football game in Lone Pine in the early sixties. That's as
far south as I've been on 395. It's also a thousandth of the way to the
Moon from Reno which is a long way for a old man.
> BTW: behind my Savageduck nym, I am usually known as Leonard.
Rare as we are by my experience, our name is making a comeback! We both
knew that Nimoy couldn't carry it forever.
leo
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 20:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <150420152028154617%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #28877 |
In article <150420152010517194%leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > BTW: behind my Savageduck nym, I am usually known as Leonard. > > Rare as we are by my experience, our name is making a comeback! We both > knew that Nimoy couldn't carry it forever But Dr. McCoy carried in the future.
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| From | Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 20:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <150420152049532825%leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> |
| In reply to | #28878 |
In article <150420152028154617%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > But Dr. McCoy carried in the future. You outgeeked me. I honestly forgot McCoy's first name. No wonder I loved the show. Shame on me! leo
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 21:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2015041521094924551-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com> |
| In reply to | #28879 |
On 2015-04-16 03:49:53 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell said: > In article <150420152028154617%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner > <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > >> But Dr. McCoy carried in the future. > > You outgeeked me. I honestly forgot McCoy's first name. No wonder I > loved the show. Shame on me! I suspect that the Nevadan, and Californian Leonards in this NG predate Dr. McCoy, but not the revered Nimoy. That said, my Grandfather was William Leonard, and always went by "Len". -- Regards, Savageduck
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-16 07:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mgofns$d92$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #28880 |
On 4/15/15 PDT 9:09 PM, Savageduck wrote: > On 2015-04-16 03:49:53 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell said: > >> In article <150420152028154617%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner >> <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: >> >>> But Dr. McCoy carried in the future. >> >> You outgeeked me. I honestly forgot McCoy's first name. No wonder I >> loved the show. Shame on me! > > I suspect that the Nevadan, and Californian Leonards in this NG predate > Dr. McCoy, but not the revered Nimoy. > That said, my Grandfather was William Leonard, and always went by "Len". I believe there's a character named Leonard on "The Big Bang Theory."
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-16 08:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2015041608265275736-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com> |
| In reply to | #28885 |
On 2015-04-16 14:08:54 +0000, John McWilliams said: > On 4/15/15 PDT 9:09 PM, Savageduck wrote: >> On 2015-04-16 03:49:53 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell said: >> >>> In article <150420152028154617%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner >>> <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: >>> >>>> But Dr. McCoy carried in the future. >>> >>> You outgeeked me. I honestly forgot McCoy's first name. No wonder I >>> loved the show. Shame on me! >> >> I suspect that the Nevadan, and Californian Leonards in this NG predate >> Dr. McCoy, but not the revered Nimoy. >> That said, my Grandfather was William Leonard, and always went by "Len". > > I believe there's a character named Leonard on "The Big Bang Theory." ...and that, given the nature of that show, was probably a geeky salute to Nimoy & McCoy. -- Regards, Savageduck
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-16 09:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mgon7l$bd8$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #28886 |
On 4/16/15 PDT 8:26 AM, Savageduck wrote: > On 2015-04-16 14:08:54 +0000, John McWilliams said: > >> On 4/15/15 PDT 9:09 PM, Savageduck wrote: >>> On 2015-04-16 03:49:53 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell said: >>> >>>> In article <150420152028154617%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner >>>> <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> But Dr. McCoy carried in the future. >>>> >>>> You outgeeked me. I honestly forgot McCoy's first name. No wonder I >>>> loved the show. Shame on me! >>> >>> I suspect that the Nevadan, and Californian Leonards in this NG predate >>> Dr. McCoy, but not the revered Nimoy. >>> That said, my Grandfather was William Leonard, and always went by "Len". >> >> I believe there's a character named Leonard on "The Big Bang Theory." > > ...and that, given the nature of that show, was probably a geeky salute > to Nimoy & McCoy. Absolutely. I just watched part of "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly", and just realized then where the Tuco in Breaking Bad came from.
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| From | Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 16:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <150420151622115882%leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> |
| In reply to | #28827 |
In article <do_ray_me-0D5E8E.10255414042015@aioe.org>, dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote: > Saw a program last night on a section of the mountains of Nevada where > that Steve Fossey went down, apparently a very dangerous area for > planes (because of fairly severe and unpredictable weather events). > Will be driving through the general area hopefully, Death Valley, I > can't wait! Always wanted to set foot on American Soil and see where > all the things I have seen here happened. Stop by Reno and look me up. I'll show you the exact private airfield where Fossey's living feet last left land. It's about a hundred miles south of here after twenty miles of lonely dirt road. Another twenty miles and you hit the famous ghost towns of Aurora and then Bodie. There can be no thrill comparable to having this adventure with a scruffy stranger ;-) leo
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-12 16:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2015041216470142542-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMme.com> |
| In reply to | #28792 |
On 2015-04-12 23:13:40 +0000, Király said: > Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: >> As it happens, I have 2 Rolexes. One is 60 years old and the other is 70 >> years old. They're essentially worthless because there once were >> Rolexes that weren't jewellery. > > They are definitely not worthless. Yup! See what it costs to have a Rolex band rebuilt. I have my father's 50 year old Oyster Datejust in stainless + gold. The original band was in need of a rebuild, that ran $850. New the watch cost about $600, and today with the rebuilt band I have been told it is worth $8000. -- Regards, Savageduck
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