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| Started by | Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> |
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| First post | 2013-10-06 09:11 -0700 |
| Last post | 2013-10-06 17:54 -0400 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 139 — 19 participants |
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3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-06 09:11 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-06 09:57 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-06 11:53 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-06 13:02 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-06 13:07 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-06 14:42 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-06 12:07 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-06 15:28 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-06 13:01 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-06 13:13 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-06 16:05 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-07 18:05 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-10-08 11:38 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-08 11:51 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-07 19:43 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-07 20:13 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-07 20:21 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-10-07 17:01 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-07 19:03 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-09 01:34 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-08 20:49 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-09 17:01 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-07 21:19 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-09 01:33 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-08 22:47 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-08 20:51 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-09 02:16 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-09 23:43 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-09 20:19 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-09 21:27 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-14 11:24 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-09 17:28 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-09 22:52 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-10 19:12 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2013-10-09 20:40 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-10-10 12:30 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-10 14:52 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-11 18:48 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-11 15:56 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Joe from NY <giu@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-11 16:24 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2013-10-11 16:36 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-11 17:13 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-11 17:11 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Joe from NY <giu@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-12 08:28 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-12 08:34 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-12 20:06 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-13 08:03 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 11:28 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Joe from NY <giu@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-13 16:00 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 16:25 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-13 18:23 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 18:31 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 02:41 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Joe from NY <giu@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-14 09:22 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 18:04 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-14 13:06 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Joe from NY <giu@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-14 16:55 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-14 17:15 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-10-16 20:28 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-15 19:21 +0200
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-10-15 15:46 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Joe from NY <giu@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-14 16:11 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-14 11:00 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 18:03 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-14 14:26 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-14 18:50 +0200
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-14 14:26 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-15 04:21 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-15 19:12 +0200
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-11 20:37 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2013-10-12 15:44 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-12 21:08 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2013-10-13 09:12 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 12:30 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-13 14:51 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-12 20:44 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-13 14:28 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-13 07:57 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-13 20:35 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-13 18:23 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-13 17:17 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-14 00:43 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-14 07:23 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-14 08:29 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-14 18:53 +0200
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 18:13 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-15 04:18 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-14 21:41 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-16 18:18 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-17 04:11 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 11:06 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-13 09:30 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 12:40 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-13 14:51 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 18:22 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-14 13:04 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 21:56 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-14 18:20 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-16 18:21 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? John White <jccw@jccw.removeme.org> - 2013-10-16 15:02 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-16 19:59 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-17 04:12 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-14 18:16 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-16 18:24 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2013-10-13 09:10 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-13 14:51 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-13 14:12 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-13 18:23 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2013-10-14 14:44 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 22:02 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-14 18:04 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-16 18:26 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-10-16 20:30 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 22:07 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-14 19:53 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-16 18:38 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-16 17:13 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-17 00:34 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-16 23:12 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-10-17 14:27 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-17 17:50 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-17 18:04 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-17 20:53 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-18 01:00 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-18 03:09 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-19 00:09 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-19 00:51 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-18 21:12 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-19 21:04 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-19 21:07 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-14 16:49 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-14 19:53 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-14 19:16 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-14 20:41 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-14 18:28 +0000
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-13 10:02 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-06 16:12 -0400
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-10-06 13:13 -0700
Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2013-10-06 17:54 -0400
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| From | "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-16 19:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-gJdsQpUqh3yt@localhost> |
| In reply to | #18575 |
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 19:02:03 UTC, John White <jccw@jccw.removeme.org> wrote: > In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-YudVWrQewQIh@localhost>, > "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 22:20:35 UTC, Tom Stiller > > <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-77jTn3tiqK9V@localhost>, > > > "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 20:04:26 UTC, Michelle Steiner > > > > <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-l0SUx4Z6zodq@localhost>, > > > > > "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not just reformat the drive? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While an excellent technical solution for the case it has the > > > > > > > > drawback of reinforcing a bad habit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt that anything any of us say cause him to change that habit. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't believe Jim or anyone else here has said that we use Trash as > > > > > > temporary storage. I certainly haven't said it. What I have said is > > > > > > that > > > > > > I occasionally realize I've put something in the Trash erroneously or > > > > > > before I was really done with it, and then want to retrieve it. > > > > > > > > > > So do I, but I empty the trash after a few hours, not days or weeks. > > > > > If I > > > > > want to retrieve the document after I empty the trash, I get it with > > > > > Time > > > > > Machine. > > > > > > > > I don't empty trash on any sort of schedule. I do it when I happen > > > > to think of it and also am sure that there's been nothing of any > > > > importance put into it recently. > > > > > > > > My Time Machine doesn't save the trash, so anything that wasn't > > > > there overnight or, later, over the weekend won't be in TM. > > > > > > But there probably was a copy on the TM before you moved it to the trash. > > > > Perhaps I wasn't clear. There wouldn't be a copy on TM unless the > > file was on the drive and not in the trash at least overnight or, if > > wanted some days later, over a weekend. > > Huh? At the moment my Time Machine has backups for each of the last 24 > hours. Unless you've mucked about with the configuration, why do you say > the file would have to be not-in-the-trash overnight? Of course it may > well be gone after more than 24 hours are past, but for the first day it > should be available unless you're really quick to create and delete. You're quite right and your precision is admirable. -- John Varela
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2013-10-17 04:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnl5uota.15io.g.kreme@mbp55.local> |
| In reply to | #18571 |
In message <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-YudVWrQewQIh@localhost> John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 22:20:35 UTC, Tom Stiller > <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> wrote: >> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-77jTn3tiqK9V@localhost>, >> "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> > On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 20:04:26 UTC, Michelle Steiner >> > <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: >> > >> > > In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-l0SUx4Z6zodq@localhost>, >> > > "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: >> > > >> > > > > > > Why not just reformat the drive? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > While an excellent technical solution for the case it has the >> > > > > > drawback of reinforcing a bad habit. >> > > > > >> > > > > I doubt that anything any of us say cause him to change that habit. >> > > > >> > > > I don't believe Jim or anyone else here has said that we use Trash as >> > > > temporary storage. I certainly haven't said it. What I have said is that >> > > > I occasionally realize I've put something in the Trash erroneously or >> > > > before I was really done with it, and then want to retrieve it. >> > > >> > > So do I, but I empty the trash after a few hours, not days or weeks. If I >> > > want to retrieve the document after I empty the trash, I get it with Time >> > > Machine. >> > >> > I don't empty trash on any sort of schedule. I do it when I happen >> > to think of it and also am sure that there's been nothing of any >> > importance put into it recently. >> > >> > My Time Machine doesn't save the trash, so anything that wasn't >> > there overnight or, later, over the weekend won't be in TM. >> >> But there probably was a copy on the TM before you moved it to the trash. > > Perhaps I wasn't clear. There wouldn't be a copy on TM unless the > file was on the drive and not in the trash at least overnight or, if > wanted some days later, over a weekend. This was not true the first time you said it. It is still not true. -- Come on. Somewhere at the edge of the bell curve is the girl for me.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2013-10-14 18:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <michelle-F353C6.18164414102013@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #18551 |
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-77jTn3tiqK9V@localhost>, "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > So do I, but I empty the trash after a few hours, not days or weeks. > > If I want to retrieve the document after I empty the trash, I get it > > with Time Machine. > > I don't empty trash on any sort of schedule. I do it when I happen to > think of it and also am sure that there's been nothing of any importance > put into it recently. That's why I wrote "a few hours"; it's not a schedule, but is when I think to do it. And sometimes, but rarely, it is immediately. > My Time Machine doesn't save the trash, so anything that wasn't > there overnight or, later, over the weekend won't be in TM. Nor does mine, but almost always the document is in TM before I put it in the trash. -- All usenet users are quirky, but some are more quirky than others.
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| From | "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-16 18:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-ofZg2dNx8D0g@localhost> |
| In reply to | #18560 |
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 01:16:44 UTC, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-77jTn3tiqK9V@localhost>, > "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > So do I, but I empty the trash after a few hours, not days or weeks. > > > If I want to retrieve the document after I empty the trash, I get it > > > with Time Machine. > > > > I don't empty trash on any sort of schedule. I do it when I happen to > > think of it and also am sure that there's been nothing of any importance > > put into it recently. > > That's why I wrote "a few hours"; it's not a schedule, but is when I think > to do it. And sometimes, but rarely, it is immediately. > > > My Time Machine doesn't save the trash, so anything that wasn't > > there overnight or, later, over the weekend won't be in TM. > > Nor does mine, but almost always the document is in TM before I put it in > the trash. In the example I cited way upthread, I got an email that my statement was ready, I downloaded the statement, copied data into spreadsheets, printed the pdf, and then trashed it. From email to trash wasn't more than a couple of hours. -- John Varela
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| From | Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-10-13 09:10 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <131020130910599221%JimSGibson@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #18484 |
In article <michelle-8238DD.20440012102013@news.eternal-september.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > In article <121020131544528731%JimSGibson@gmail.com>, > Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > What use-case can you site where you want to empty the trash but only > > > for specific volumes? > > > > Happens to me all the time: I have a USB memory drive that I want to use > > to exchange files with someone. I plug it in and erase it by dragging > > all of the contents to the trash. However, the files are still on the > > drive, so I would like to erase them permanently to free up space on the > > drive and not give extraneous files to the recipient. > > Why not just reformat the drive? Takes too long. -- Jim Gibson
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-10-13 14:51 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <131020131451272235%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #18494 |
In article <131020130910599221%JimSGibson@gmail.com>, Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > What use-case can you site where you want to empty the trash but only > > > > for specific volumes? > > > > > > Happens to me all the time: I have a USB memory drive that I want to use > > > to exchange files with someone. I plug it in and erase it by dragging > > > all of the contents to the trash. However, the files are still on the > > > drive, so I would like to erase them permanently to free up space on the > > > drive and not give extraneous files to the recipient. > > > > Why not just reformat the drive? > > Takes too long. nonsense. it takes just seconds, maybe 10 seconds at the most. it's normally quicker than emptying the trash because it doesn't need to walk the file system. it just clears the entire directory at once.
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| From | Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> |
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| Date | 2013-10-13 14:12 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <1eudnZakiuRZkcbPnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #18499 |
On 10/13/2013 11:51 AM PT, nospam typed:
>>> Why not just reformat the drive?
>>
>> Takes too long.
>
> nonsense. it takes just seconds, maybe 10 seconds at the most.
Maybe he is formatting incorrectly. Full formats take a while. Quick
formats are fast.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-10-13 18:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <131020131823013857%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #18507 |
In article <1eudnZakiuRZkcbPnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote: > >>> Why not just reformat the drive? > >> > >> Takes too long. > > > > nonsense. it takes just seconds, maybe 10 seconds at the most. > > Maybe he is formatting incorrectly. Full formats take a while. Quick > formats are fast. reformatting is always quick. it clears the directory and files are gone. what is slow is when people zero all sectors, sometimes erroneously called 'low level format'. that's rarely needed. it just wastes time.
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| From | Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-10-14 14:44 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <141020131444193319%JimSGibson@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #18499 |
In article <131020131451272235%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <131020130910599221%JimSGibson@gmail.com>, Jim Gibson > <JimSGibson@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > What use-case can you site where you want to empty the trash but only > > > > > for specific volumes? > > > > > > > > Happens to me all the time: I have a USB memory drive that I want to > > > > use > > > > to exchange files with someone. I plug it in and erase it by dragging > > > > all of the contents to the trash. However, the files are still on the > > > > drive, so I would like to erase them permanently to free up space on > > > > the > > > > drive and not give extraneous files to the recipient. > > > > > > Why not just reformat the drive? > > > > Takes too long. > > nonsense. it takes just seconds, maybe 10 seconds at the most. I tried it both ways, after I had inserted a USB drive and waited for it to mount. 1. Reformat -- 30 seconds a. Find Disk Utility in the dock and click b. Wait for Disk Utility to start and scan for drives c. Find USB memory drive in list (involved scrolling down because this system has eleven drives mounted.) d. Click on Erase tab e. Switch Format popup menu to "ExFAT" (most of my USB drives are FAT because I use them to exchange files with Windows users.) f. Click on Erase button g. Confirm desire to erase in dialog window ... and its done. 2. Erase/Empty Trash - 10 seconds a. Double click drive icon to open top-level directory. b. Select all files (usually just one directory) c. Command-Delete to erase all selected files. d. Select Empty Trash from File menu. ... and its done. My original post in this thread was in response to the question "What is the use case for emptying the trash on a single drive?" Now, I am being accused of using Trash as a storage place and not knowing how to format drives. I don't use the trash except to hold deleted files, and I know how to format drives. I also do not compulsively empty the trash frequently, as I see no need to do so. What I would like is a right-click menu option on a drive icon that will let me empty the trash on that drive only. I'm sorry if nobody (except John Varela) seems to understand why. -- Jim Gibson
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| From | "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-14 22:02 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-Jz12rnMbi9zo@localhost> |
| In reply to | #18550 |
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:44:19 UTC, Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> wrote: > this system has eleven drives mounted Oh. That does make a difference. I just have the system drive, the Time Machine drive, and depending on what I'm doing, the portable drive or a drive for a clone backup. (Except for TM or when actually making a backup I don't keep any backup drive electrically connected to either the computer or the power because we get thunderstorms around here.) -- John Varela
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2013-10-14 18:04 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <MbydnaeCfPsf98HPnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #18550 |
On 2013.10.14 17:44 , Jim Gibson wrote:
> What I would like is a right-click menu option on a drive icon that
> will let me empty the trash on that drive only. I'm sorry if nobody
> (except John Varela) seems to understand why.
That last is not a bad idea - but it still reinforces bad system
operation habits. You could try TrashTimer as Mezei suggests (I'm
trying it now).
--
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
-Unknown
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| From | "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-16 18:26 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-POE1U0W1io3P@localhost> |
| In reply to | #18553 |
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 22:04:50 UTC, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2013.10.14 17:44 , Jim Gibson wrote: > > > What I would like is a right-click menu option on a drive icon that > > will let me empty the trash on that drive only. I'm sorry if nobody > > (except John Varela) seems to understand why. > > That last is not a bad idea - but it still reinforces bad system > operation habits. You could try TrashTimer as Mezei suggests (I'm > trying it now). Just exactly what makes you think that you get to define what are good and bad system operating habits? -- John Varela
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| From | Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-16 20:30 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <l3nllc$3d6$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #18553 |
On 2013-10-14 22:04:50 +0000, Alan Browne said: > On 2013.10.14 17:44 , Jim Gibson wrote: > >> What I would like is a right-click menu option on a drive icon that >> will let me empty the trash on that drive only. I'm sorry if nobody >> (except John Varela) seems to understand why. > > That last is not a bad idea - but it still reinforces bad system > operation habits. You could try TrashTimer as Mezei suggests (I'm > trying it now). As I mentioned elsewhere, Path Finder allows you to empty the trash on only a given drive. Not free, or even that cheap (look for a bundle). But incredibly useful program in my experience.
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| From | "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-14 22:07 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-tgfTe06U5fwP@localhost> |
| In reply to | #18550 |
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:44:19 UTC, Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> wrote: > I am > being accused of using Trash as a storage place and not knowing how to > format drives. Ain't that a pisser? I was writing, designing, and specifying software probably before most of these people were born, and they presume to give me unsolicited advice. -- John Varela
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-10-14 19:53 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <141020131953021839%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #18554 |
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-tgfTe06U5fwP@localhost>, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > I am > > being accused of using Trash as a storage place and not knowing how to > > format drives. > > Ain't that a pisser? I was writing, designing, and specifying > software probably before most of these people were born, and they > presume to give me unsolicited advice. the age card is always a last resort, and you did solicit advice. anyway, back then there was no trash. if you deleted a file, it was *gone*. you had to be very careful on what you deleted. the same applies now. only put into the trash what you want to delete. you did it then and you can do it now.
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| From | "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-16 18:38 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-zzhMkOCQtGHM@localhost> |
| In reply to | #18558 |
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 23:53:02 UTC, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-tgfTe06U5fwP@localhost>, John Varela > <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > I am > > > being accused of using Trash as a storage place and not knowing how to > > > format drives. > > > > Ain't that a pisser? I was writing, designing, and specifying > > software probably before most of these people were born, and they > > presume to give me unsolicited advice. > > the age card is always a last resort, and you did solicit advice. That about age is a new one on me. And when did I solicit advice? At the start of this subthread I did say, "If there's a way to delete Trash on only one drive I'd like to know it." With one or two exceptions I didn't get an answer to the rhetorical question that wasn't even stated as a question. Instead, I got several jerks accusing me of maltreating my computer. > anyway, back then there was no trash. if you deleted a file, it was > *gone*. you had to be very careful on what you deleted. Back when? To me, "back when" was Hollerith cards and tape drives. I even used paper tape on ASR Teletype machines. The term "erase" didn't exist. I do recall in the TRS-80 and DOS days having undelete utilities, so I don't know what era you're talking about. Do you? > the same applies now. only put into the trash what you want to delete. > you did it then and you can do it now. When did I do it? We tossed paper tape into a trash basket when done. It was easy to retrieve had we wanted to, though I can't recall ever having wanted to. -- John Varela
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-10-16 17:13 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <161020131713349124%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #18574 |
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-zzhMkOCQtGHM@localhost>, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > I am > > > > being accused of using Trash as a storage place and not knowing how to > > > > format drives. > > > > > > Ain't that a pisser? I was writing, designing, and specifying > > > software probably before most of these people were born, and they > > > presume to give me unsolicited advice. > > > > the age card is always a last resort, and you did solicit advice. > > That about age is a new one on me. then why did you bring it up? why does it matter what you were doing long ago? how is it even relevant? > And when did I solicit advice? when you first posted. > At the start of this subthread I did > say, "If there's a way to delete Trash on only one drive I'd like to > know it." looks like solicitation to me. > With one or two exceptions I didn't get an answer to the > rhetorical question that wasn't even stated as a question. Instead, > I got several jerks accusing me of maltreating my computer. truth hurts. > > anyway, back then there was no trash. if you deleted a file, it was > > *gone*. you had to be very careful on what you deleted. > > Back when? To me, "back when" was Hollerith cards and tape drives. I > even used paper tape on ASR Teletype machines. is that supposed to impress me? the age card never works. and by the way, i used to use paper tape and teletypes too, with 110 baud acoustic modems. i used card punches too although not that often. the high speed dectape readers were rather cool to watch. and who can forget those giant 24" disk packs that you had to spin down before removing them. when i said 'back then' i meant 'back then'. > The term "erase" > didn't exist. actually it did. > I do recall in the TRS-80 and DOS days having undelete utilities, so > I don't know what era you're talking about. Do you? i know quite well what era i'm talking about. > > the same applies now. only put into the trash what you want to delete. > > you did it then and you can do it now. > > When did I do it? 'back then'. > We tossed paper tape into a trash basket when > done. It was easy to retrieve had we wanted to, though I can't > recall ever having wanted to. once the janitor emptied the trash, you could no longer retrieve it. you certainly didn't put it in the trash thinking it would be there the next day. so just like i said, you weren't using the trash as storage then and you can do the same now.
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| From | "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2013-10-17 00:34 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-kMMXXydmxthm@localhost> |
| In reply to | #18577 |
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 21:13:34 UTC, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-zzhMkOCQtGHM@localhost>, John Varela > <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > I am > > > > > being accused of using Trash as a storage place and not knowing how to > > > > > format drives. > > > > > > > > Ain't that a pisser? I was writing, designing, and specifying > > > > software probably before most of these people were born, and they > > > > presume to give me unsolicited advice. > > > > > > the age card is always a last resort, and you did solicit advice. > > > > That about age is a new one on me. > > then why did you bring it up? why does it matter what you were doing > long ago? how is it even relevant? > > > And when did I solicit advice? > > when you first posted. > > > At the start of this subthread I did > > say, "If there's a way to delete Trash on only one drive I'd like to > > know it." > > looks like solicitation to me. Even if it is a solilcitation it has nothing to do with retrieving items from Trash. > > With one or two exceptions I didn't get an answer to the > > rhetorical question that wasn't even stated as a question. Instead, > > I got several jerks accusing me of maltreating my computer. > > truth hurts. The truth is that you are one of the jerks. Does that truth hurt? > > > anyway, back then there was no trash. if you deleted a file, it was > > > *gone*. you had to be very careful on what you deleted. > > > > Back when? To me, "back when" was Hollerith cards and tape drives. I > > even used paper tape on ASR Teletype machines. > > is that supposed to impress me? You are not a person I wish to impress. > the age card never works. and by the way, i used to use paper tape and > teletypes too, with 110 baud acoustic modems. i used card punches too > although not that often. the high speed dectape readers were rather > cool to watch. and who can forget those giant 24" disk packs that you > had to spin down before removing them. > > when i said 'back then' i meant 'back then'. Disks? You had disks? We had drums. > > The term "erase" > > didn't exist. > > actually it did. Yeah, you could erase a tape. There was no such thing as erasing a file. > > I do recall in the TRS-80 and DOS days having undelete utilities, so > > I don't know what era you're talking about. Do you? > > i know quite well what era i'm talking about. You just can't describe it. > > > the same applies now. only put into the trash what you want to delete. > > > you did it then and you can do it now. > > > > When did I do it? > > 'back then'. > > > We tossed paper tape into a trash basket when > > done. It was easy to retrieve had we wanted to, though I can't > > recall ever having wanted to. > > once the janitor emptied the trash, you could no longer retrieve it. > > you certainly didn't put it in the trash thinking it would be there the > next day. > > so just like i said, you weren't using the trash as storage then and > you can do the same now. Couldn't use the trash for storage becasue there was no trash. I used to sympathize with you when JR and others got on your case but no more. They are right: you are a damned fool. I never said I use the trash as storage. You made that up. Learn to read for comprehension. -- John Varela
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2013-10-16 23:12 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <161020132312092839%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #18578 |
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-kMMXXydmxthm@localhost>, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > the age card never works. and by the way, i used to use paper tape and > > teletypes too, with 110 baud acoustic modems. i used card punches too > > although not that often. the high speed dectape readers were rather > > cool to watch. and who can forget those giant 24" disk packs that you > > had to spin down before removing them. > > > > when i said 'back then' i meant 'back then'. > > Disks? You had disks? We had drums. the computing center had the drums. the minicomputers in the labs had the disk packs, and people could store their work on them, sort of like saving to a floppy many years later. > > > The term "erase" > > > didn't exist. > > > > actually it did. > > Yeah, you could erase a tape. There was no such thing as erasing a > file. yes there was. some tape drives supported it. not all. and i as referring to a disk anyway. if you deleted a file, it was gone. > > > We tossed paper tape into a trash basket when > > > done. It was easy to retrieve had we wanted to, though I can't > > > recall ever having wanted to. > > > > once the janitor emptied the trash, you could no longer retrieve it. > > > > you certainly didn't put it in the trash thinking it would be there the > > next day. > > > > so just like i said, you weren't using the trash as storage then and > > you can do the same now. > > Couldn't use the trash for storage becasue there was no trash. exactly the point. > I used to sympathize with you when JR and others got on your case > but no more. They are right: you are a damned fool. I never said I > use the trash as storage. You made that up. Learn to read for > comprehension. i didn't make it up at all and several other people said the same thing. i don't know if it was you or someone else, but someone said they had several gigs of stuff in the trash and didn't want to empty it, thus the request to selectively empty it for just one volume. that very clearly means that the trash is being used for storage. the reality is that anything in the trash is not needed anymore, otherwise why put it there in the first place? therefore, there is no reason to selectively empty the trash only for one volume. empty the trash and be done with it. in the unlikely event you need a file that was trashed, pull it off a backup. time machine makes that very easy.
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| From | Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-10-17 14:27 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: 3/Three usability issues in Mac OS X 10.8.5: Re(storing/covering) huge files from its Trash bin, renamed Time Machine's disk drive, and bring back Finder's sidebar external USB HDD icons? |
| Message-ID | <171020131427564991%jimsgibson@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #18579 |
In article <161020132312092839%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > i don't know if it was you or someone else, but someone said they had > several gigs of stuff in the trash and didn't want to empty it, thus > the request to selectively empty it for just one volume. that very > clearly means that the trash is being used for storage. That was me. The reason I didn't want to do a global empty trash was because it would take too long, because I had several GBs in the trash on my boot drive. I was trying to give some files to a co-worker, and he was standing right there in my cubicle waiting for me. I didn't want to make him wait any longer than necessary. I also wanted to clean up the USB memory drive before giving it to him. A selective empty trash on the USB drive would have been the optimal solution for me in that situation. I WAS NOT USING TRASH FOR STORAGE! Got that? You really can be an idiotic, arrogant jerk at times. -- Jim Gibson
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