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God Hates Apple!

Started bybohlenmacher@swe.com (Homunkulus vom Wedding)
First post2014-08-03 12:16 +0300
Last post2014-08-05 21:34 -0700
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  God Hates Apple! bohlenmacher@swe.com (Homunkulus vom Wedding) - 2014-08-03 12:16 +0300
    Re: God Hates Apple! pfj@doesn't.exist.com (Peter James) - 2014-08-04 07:23 +0100
      Re: God Hates Apple! john.smith@domain.invalid (John Smith) - 2014-08-04 11:03 +0300
        Re: God Hates Apple! Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-04 12:57 +0200
          Re: God Hates Apple! FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 04:23 -0400
            Re: God Hates Apple! Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-05 11:33 +0200
              Re: God Hates Apple! FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 06:30 -0400
                Re: God Hates Apple! Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-05 13:53 +0200
                  Re: God Hates Apple! FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 08:31 -0400
                    Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-05 08:53 -0700
                  Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-05 08:52 -0700
              Re: God Hates Apple! FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 06:56 -0400
                Re: God Hates Apple! irrwin@schmahlfuss.com (Irrwin Schmahlfuß) - 2014-08-05 18:10 +0300
                  Re: God Hates Apple! Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-05 17:25 +0200
                    Re: God Hates Apple! holgerpresley@gmail.br (Holger Presley) - 2014-08-05 23:37 +0300
                      Re: God Hates Apple! "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-08-05 23:25 +0000
                        Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-05 21:30 -0700
                        Re: God Hates Apple! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-06 09:22 +0100
                      Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-05 21:26 -0700
                    Re: God Hates Apple! FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 18:28 -0400
                      Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-05 21:33 -0700
                        Re: God Hates Apple! Der Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org> - 2014-08-06 07:08 +0200
                          Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-05 23:21 -0700
                            Re: God Hates Apple! Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-06 10:41 -0500
                              Re: God Hates Apple! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-06 18:35 +0100
                                Re: God Hates Apple! Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-06 16:20 -0500
                                  Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-06 14:40 -0700
                                    Re: God Hates Apple! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-06 23:09 +0100
                                      Re: God Hates Apple! Der Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org> - 2014-08-07 07:04 +0200
                                    Re: God Hates Apple! Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-07 11:32 -0500
                                      Re: God Hates Apple! Der Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org> - 2014-08-07 18:58 +0200
                                        Re: God Hates Apple! ljunost@jmail.com (Laurel Junost) - 2014-08-07 23:44 +0300
                                          Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-07 19:17 -0700
                                            Re: God Hates Apple! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-07 22:57 -0400
                                            Re: God Hates Apple! Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-08-08 16:30 +0000
                                          Re: God Hates Apple! Der Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org> - 2014-08-08 06:53 +0200
                                            Re: God Hates Apple! Der Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org> - 2014-08-08 07:10 +0200
                                            Re: God Hates Apple! bb@lactoseintolerants.com (Burkhard Beerenobst) - 2014-08-08 09:59 +0300
                                              Re: God Hates Apple! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-08 09:20 +0100
                                                Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-08 09:05 -0700
                                                  Re: God Hates Apple! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-08 17:08 +0100
                                                    Re: God Hates Apple! "F. Knauer" <frikna@sofortstart.de> - 2014-08-08 18:16 +0200
                                                      Re: God Hates Apple! Fritz <fritz@eso.nomail.invalid> - 2014-08-08 18:24 +0200
                                                      Re: God Hates Apple! "Kai N. Schwein" <stefan.schneider@web.de> - 2014-08-08 18:26 +0200
                                                  Re: God Hates Apple! "Kai N. Schwein" <stefan.schneider@web.de> - 2014-08-08 18:24 +0200
                                              Re: God Hates Apple! Der Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org> - 2014-08-08 11:36 +0200
                                                Re: God Hates Apple! landi@4x4ente.com (Landfried Holzente) - 2014-08-08 13:34 +0300
                                                  Re: God Hates Apple! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-08 11:40 +0100
                                                  Re: God Hates Apple! Der Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org> - 2014-08-08 13:07 +0200
                                                  Re: God Hates Apple! Volker Birk <bumens@dingens.org> - 2014-08-08 16:44 +0000
                                                    Re: God Hates Apple! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-08 18:09 +0100
                                                      Re: God Hates Apple! Volker Birk <bumens@dingens.org> - 2014-08-08 18:42 +0000
                                              Re: God Hates Apple! Volker Birk <bumens@dingens.org> - 2014-08-08 14:40 +0000
                                  Re: God Hates Apple! Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-08-07 19:41 +0000
                              Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-06 12:09 -0700
                                Re: God Hates Apple! Lothar Kimmeringer <news200709@kimmeringer.de> - 2014-08-07 18:48 +0200
                                  Re: God Hates Apple! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-07 18:02 +0100
                                  Re: God Hates Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-07 12:59 -0700
                                  Re: God Hates Apple! ljunost@jmail.com (Laurel Junost) - 2014-08-07 23:44 +0300
                                    Re: God Hates Apple! Lothar Kimmeringer <news200709@kimmeringer.de> - 2014-08-08 16:13 +0200
                                      Re: God Hates Apple! fleischtomate3@gmx.de (Balduin Fleischtomate) - 2014-08-08 21:19 +0300
                                        Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-08 11:22 -0700
                                          Re: God Hates Apple! Bruder Amadeus <amadeus@devnullmail.com> - 2014-08-08 20:41 +0200
                                            Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-08 11:47 -0700
                                            Re: God Hates Apple! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-08 22:19 +0100
                                              Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-08 18:16 -0700
                                                Re: God Loves Apple! Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-09 13:11 +0200
                                                  Re: God Loves Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-09 07:29 -0700
                                                    Re: God Loves Apple! Volker Birk <bumens@dingens.org> - 2014-08-09 14:32 +0000
                                                      Re: God Loves Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-09 09:02 -0700
                                                    Everyone hates off-topic dolts Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@3q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-08-09 15:22 +0000
                                                    Re: God Loves Apple! Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-09 18:09 +0200
                                                      Re: God Loves Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-09 14:10 -0700
                                              Re: God Hates Apple! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-09 18:57 +0000
                                            Re: God Hates Apple! adschloiders@mail.ata (Adolph Schloidersitz Jr.) - 2014-08-09 18:05 +0300
                                              Re: God Hates Apple! Volker Birk <bumens@dingens.org> - 2014-08-09 15:43 +0000
                                                Re: God Hates Apple! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-09 19:01 +0000
                                                  Re: God Hates Apple! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-08-09 12:24 -0700
                                                  Re: God Hates Apple! momo@las.com (Bruder Oxnleder) - 2014-08-10 01:23 +0300
                                                    Re: God Hates Apple! Bruder Amadeus <amadeus@devnullmail.com> - 2014-08-10 00:38 +0200
                                                      Re: God Loves Apple! Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-10 00:49 +0200
                                                      Re: God Hates Apple! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-09 23:04 +0000
                                                        Re: God Hates Apple! Volker Birk <bumens@dingens.org> - 2014-08-10 06:46 +0000
                                                    Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-09 15:39 -0700
                                                      Re: God Loves Apple! Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-10 00:51 +0200
                                                        Re: God Loves Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-10 08:24 -0700
                                                          Re: God Loves Apple! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-10 15:30 +0000
                                                            Re: God Loves Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-10 08:36 -0700
                                                              Re: God Loves Apple! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-08-10 11:48 -0400
                                                                Re: God Loves Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-10 09:17 -0700
                                                                  Re: God Loves Apple! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-08-10 12:20 -0400
                                                            Re: God Loves Apple! bibelmann@mailinator.com (Der Bibelmann) - 2014-08-10 18:51 +0300
                                                              Re: God Loves Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-10 09:15 -0700
                                                              Re: God Loves Apple! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-10 16:29 +0000
                                                                Re: God Loves Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-10 10:41 -0700
                                                                  Re: God Loves Apple! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-10 17:51 +0000
                                                                    Re: God Loves Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-10 10:56 -0700
                                                                Re: God Loves Apple! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-10 15:54 -0400
                                                                Re: God Loves Apple! am0112@local.div (Wider die verfluchte Gottlosigkeit) - 2014-08-11 09:13 +0300
                                                                  Re: God Loves Apple! affe@66r54.com (Mich laust der Gottlose) - 2014-08-11 11:48 +0300
                                                                    Re: God Loves Apple! Volker Birk <bumens@dingens.org> - 2014-08-11 09:12 +0000
                                                                      Re: God Loves Apple! alpha@ome.ga (Heißer Höllenhorror für Gottlose) - 2014-08-11 13:50 +0300
                                                                        Re: God Loves Apple! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-11 14:53 +0000
                                                                          Re: God Despises Apple! gbruckenwasser@gmx.de (Gojko Brückenwasser) - 2014-08-11 19:01 +0300
                                                                            Re: God Despises Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-11 09:22 -0700
                                                                              Re: God Despises Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-11 10:29 -0700
                                                                            Re: God Despises Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-11 10:20 -0700
                                                                            Re:Pear Despises Apple! Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-11 22:10 +0200
                                                                    Re: God Loves Apple! Bruder Amadeus <amadeus@devnullmail.com> - 2014-08-11 11:22 +0200
                                                                      Re: God Loves Apple! android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-11 12:03 +0200
                                                                        Re: God Loves Apple! Außerirdische@aussergalaktisch.invalid - 2014-08-11 12:24 +0200
                                                                          Re: God Loves Apple! Bruder Amadeus <amadeus@devnullmail.com> - 2014-08-11 12:37 +0200
                                                                            Re: God Loves Apple! gunther@aus-sachsen-anha.lt (Gottlose außer Kontrolle geraten) - 2014-08-11 14:02 +0300
                                                                Re: God Loves Apple! android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-11 10:01 +0200
                                                              Re: God Loves Apple! Volker Birk <bumens@dingens.org> - 2014-08-10 19:06 +0000
                                                                Re: God Loves Apple! am0112@local.div (Wider die verfluchte Gottlosigkeit) - 2014-08-11 09:13 +0300
                                                                  Re: God Loves Apple! Volker Birk <bumens@dingens.org> - 2014-08-11 08:42 +0000
                                                                    Re: God Loves Apple! Jesus@Jesus.god (A bis Z nur Jesus) - 2014-08-11 12:31 +0300
                                                                      Re: God Loves Apple! Volker Birk <bumens@dingens.org> - 2014-08-11 09:37 +0000
                                                                        Re: God Loves Apple! gunther@aus-sachsen-anha.lt (Gottlose außer Kontrolle geraten) - 2014-08-11 14:02 +0300
                                                      Re: God Hates Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-10 08:02 -0700
                                                        Re: God Hates Apple! bibelmann@mailinator.com (Der Bibelmann) - 2014-08-11 01:23 +0300
                                                          Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-10 15:27 -0700
                                                            Re: God Hates Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-10 16:08 -0700
                                                            Re: God Hates Apple! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-11 01:27 +0000
                                                              Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-10 19:44 -0700
                                                              Re: God Hates Apple! engel@hpt.sal (Gottlose Hunde zerren an ihren Ketten) - 2014-08-11 10:00 +0300
                                                                Re: God Hates Apple! Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-08-11 15:09 +0000
                                                                  Re: God Hates Apple! gbruckenwasser@gmx.de (Gojko Brückenwasser) - 2014-08-11 19:01 +0300
                                                                    Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-11 09:20 -0700
                                                                    Re: God Hates Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-11 10:28 -0700
                                                          Re: God Hates Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-10 16:05 -0700
                                                    Re: God Hates Apple! Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-10 00:46 +0200
                                                      Re: God Hates Apple! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-09 23:04 +0000
                                                        Re: God Loves Apple! Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-10 08:12 +0200
                                                          Re: God Loves Apple! Jim_Higgins <gordian238@gmail.com> - 2014-08-10 06:48 -0400
                                                            Re: God Loves Apple! Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-10 13:22 +0200
                                                              Re: God Loves Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-10 08:22 -0700
                                                              Re: God Loves Apple! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-11 01:31 +0000
                                                            Re: God Loves Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-10 08:28 -0700
                                                            Re: God Loves Apple! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-10 15:29 +0000
                                                        Re: God Hates Apple! Markus Elsken <markus.elsken@ewetel.net> - 2014-08-10 13:24 +0200
                                                          Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-10 08:20 -0700
                                                          Re: God Hates Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-10 08:31 -0700
                                                            Re: God Hates Apple! Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-10 12:25 -0400
                                                              Re: God Hates Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-10 09:57 -0700
                                                          Re: God Hates Apple! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-11 01:32 +0000
                                                      Re: God Hates Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-10 08:03 -0700
                                                    Re: God Hates Apple! Volker Birk <bumens@dingens.org> - 2014-08-10 06:45 +0000
                                                      Re: God Hates Apple! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-10 07:24 +0000
                                          Re: God Hates Apple! adschloiders@mail.ata (Adolph Schloidersitz Jr.) - 2014-08-08 23:36 +0300
                                            Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-08 13:50 -0700
                                            Re: God Hates Apple! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-08 17:18 -0400
                                            Re: God Hates Apple! Lothar Kimmeringer <news200709@kimmeringer.de> - 2014-08-09 11:39 +0200
                                              Re: God Hates Apple! Fritz <fritz@sea.nomail.invalid> - 2014-08-09 16:26 +0200
                                        Re: God Hates Apple! Volker Birk <bumens@dingens.org> - 2014-08-08 18:45 +0000
                              Re: God Hates Apple! AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-08-06 21:15 -0400
                        Re: God Hates Apple! FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-06 02:34 -0400
                        Re: God Hates Apple! Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-08-06 15:02 +0000
                        Re: God Hates Apple! David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-08-07 10:57 -0400
                  Re: God Hates Apple! FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 18:25 -0400
                Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-05 08:54 -0700
                  Re: God Hates Apple! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-08-05 17:27 +0100
                    Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-05 09:41 -0700
                      Re: God Hates Apple! Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-08-05 17:16 +0000
                        Re: God Hates Apple! William Yeo <wcyeo@shaw.ca> - 2014-08-06 18:43 -0700
                          Re: God Hates Apple! Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-08-07 01:57 +0000
                            Re: God Hates Apple! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-07 02:01 +0000
                            Re: God Hates Apple! William Yeo <wcyeo@shaw.ca> - 2014-08-07 19:28 -0700
                              Re: God Hates Apple! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-08 03:05 +0000
                              Re: God Hates Apple! "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-08-09 00:10 +0000
                                Re: God Hates Apple! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-09 01:14 +0000
                      Re: God Hates Apple! Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-08-05 18:37 +0000
                      Re: God Hates Apple! "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-08-05 23:16 +0000
                    Re: God Hates Apple! FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 18:31 -0400
                  Re: God Hates Apple! Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-08-05 09:37 -0700
                  Re: God Hates Apple! Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-08-05 18:37 +0000
                    Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-05 12:47 -0700
                  Re: God Hates Apple! FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-05 18:29 -0400
                Re: God Hates Apple! "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-08-05 23:15 +0000
        Re: God Hates Apple! pfj@doesn't.exist.com (Peter James) - 2014-08-04 12:20 +0100
          Re: God Hates Apple! Jim_Higgins <gordian238@gmail.com> - 2014-08-04 08:30 -0400
          Re: God Hates Apple! Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-08-04 19:38 +0000
      Re: God Hates Apple! Fritz <fritz@sea.nomail.invalid> - 2014-08-08 15:20 +0200
        Re: God Hates Apple! Der Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org> - 2014-08-08 15:32 +0200
    Re: God Hates Apple! Beli <baiheli.pip@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-04 09:47 +0200
    Re: God Hates Apple! nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-08-05 16:10 -0600
      Re: God Hates Apple! PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2014-08-06 17:03 -0400
        Re: God Hates Apple! nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-08-07 08:11 -0600
          Re: God Hates Apple! pfj@doesn't.exist.com (Peter James) - 2014-08-07 19:38 +0100
            Re: God Hates Apple! befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2014-08-08 08:32 +0200
    Re: God Hates Apple! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-08-05 18:42 -0700
      Re: God Hates Apple! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-05 21:34 -0700

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#23943

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-08-05 21:33 -0700
Message-ID<050820142133035002%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#23933
In article <lrrlqr$aga$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> But, seriously, you don't think cavemen rode dinosaurs?
> 
> I've SEEN the proof.
> 
> https://hateandanger.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/

Modern man have wiped out the dinosaurs, as evidenced by this photo:

http://tinyurl.com/kv43nh8

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#23945

FromDer Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org>
Date2014-08-06 07:08 +0200
Message-ID<20140806070848.00002f94@linuxmail.org>
In reply to#23943
Am Tue, 05 Aug 2014 21:33:03 -0700
schrieb Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>:

> In article <lrrlqr$aga$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > But, seriously, you don't think cavemen rode dinosaurs?
> > 
> > I've SEEN the proof.
> > 
> > https://hateandanger.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/

Ah, creationism. Funny mental aberration of illiterate bible bashers!
Quite common in the US. 
> 
> Modern man have wiped out the dinosaurs, as evidenced by this photo:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/kv43nh8


Hm,  OK! *g*

But modern man and still using this archaic USA customary measurement
system? Inches, lbs, yards,furlongs and so on?

Not really, eh?  ;-)

Regards

Der Habakuk.


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Qualitätstheologe und Religionslehrer  Leps zeigt, was er so alles drauf
hat und interpretiert den Sühnetod Christi am Kreuz völlig neu!

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#23946

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-08-05 23:21 -0700
Message-ID<050820142321104230%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#23945
In article <20140806070848.00002f94@linuxmail.org>, Der Habakuk
<habakuk@linuxmail.org> wrote:

> schrieb Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>:
> 
> > In article <lrrlqr$aga$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > But, seriously, you don't think cavemen rode dinosaurs?
> > > 
> > > I've SEEN the proof.
> > > 
> > > https://hateandanger.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/
> 
> Ah, creationism. Funny mental aberration of illiterate bible bashers!
> Quite common in the US. 

Creationism is the brainchild of the Bible literalists.

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#23950

FromMark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com>
Date2014-08-06 10:41 -0500
Message-ID<mstorkamp-C42CF1.10414506082014@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#23946
In article <050820142321104230%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <20140806070848.00002f94@linuxmail.org>, Der Habakuk
> <habakuk@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> 
> > schrieb Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>:
> > 
> > > In article <lrrlqr$aga$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > But, seriously, you don't think cavemen rode dinosaurs?
> > > > 
> > > > I've SEEN the proof.
> > > > 
> > > > https://hateandanger.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/
> > 
> > Ah, creationism. Funny mental aberration of illiterate bible bashers!
> > Quite common in the US. 
> 
> Creationism is the brainchild of the Bible literalists.

At least have the intellectual honesty to admit creationism predates the 
bible, and existed in cultures entirely unfamiliar with the christian 
bible, such as the peoples indigenous to the Americas. Throughout 
history creation legends have been the norm, and it would seem that the 
belief in the random interaction of various chemicals to form life is 
the new kid on the block.

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#23953

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-08-06 18:35 +0100
Message-ID<060820141835045973%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#23950
In article
<mstorkamp-C42CF1.10414506082014@news.eternal-september.org>, Mark
Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <050820142321104230%michelle@michelle.org>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > In article <20140806070848.00002f94@linuxmail.org>, Der Habakuk
> > <habakuk@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > schrieb Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>:
> > > 
> > > > In article <lrrlqr$aga$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > But, seriously, you don't think cavemen rode dinosaurs?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've SEEN the proof.
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://hateandanger.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/
> > > 
> > > Ah, creationism. Funny mental aberration of illiterate bible bashers!
> > > Quite common in the US. 
> > 
> > Creationism is the brainchild of the Bible literalists.
> 
> At least have the intellectual honesty to admit creationism predates the 
> bible, and existed in cultures entirely unfamiliar with the christian 
> bible, such as the peoples indigenous to the Americas. Throughout 
> history creation legends have been the norm, and it would seem that the 
> belief in the random interaction of various chemicals to form life is 
> the new kid on the block.

For which there is some evidence. Unlike creationism.

-- 
"I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a
friend.... if you have one." - GB Shaw to Churchill "Cannot possibly
attend first night, will attend second...  if there is one." - Winston
Churchill, in response.

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#23959

FromMark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com>
Date2014-08-06 16:20 -0500
Message-ID<mstorkamp-CB9A66.16205606082014@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#23953
In article <060820141835045973%timstreater@greenbee.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article
> <mstorkamp-C42CF1.10414506082014@news.eternal-september.org>, Mark
> Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <050820142321104230%michelle@michelle.org>,
> >  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <20140806070848.00002f94@linuxmail.org>, Der Habakuk
> > > <habakuk@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > schrieb Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>:
> > > > 
> > > > > In article <lrrlqr$aga$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > But, seriously, you don't think cavemen rode dinosaurs?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I've SEEN the proof.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > https://hateandanger.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/
> > > > 
> > > > Ah, creationism. Funny mental aberration of illiterate bible bashers!
> > > > Quite common in the US. 
> > > 
> > > Creationism is the brainchild of the Bible literalists.
> > 
> > At least have the intellectual honesty to admit creationism predates the 
> > bible, and existed in cultures entirely unfamiliar with the christian 
> > bible, such as the peoples indigenous to the Americas. Throughout 
> > history creation legends have been the norm, and it would seem that the 
> > belief in the random interaction of various chemicals to form life is 
> > the new kid on the block.
> 
> For which there is some evidence. Unlike creationism.

Where's the evidence that "Creationism is the brainchild of the Bible 
literalists"?

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#23960

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-08-06 14:40 -0700
Message-ID<060820141440453159%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#23959
In article
<mstorkamp-CB9A66.16205606082014@news.eternal-september.org>, Mark
Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Where's the evidence that "Creationism is the brainchild of the Bible 
> literalists"?

Creationism is the belief that the creation story in Genesis is
literally true.

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#23961

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-08-06 23:09 +0100
Message-ID<060820142309082646%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#23960
In article <060820141440453159%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article
> <mstorkamp-CB9A66.16205606082014@news.eternal-september.org>, Mark
> Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Where's the evidence that "Creationism is the brainchild of the Bible 
> > literalists"?
> 
> Creationism is the belief that the creation story in Genesis is
> literally true.

QED.

-- 
"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
 lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores 
 the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them
 into it in the first place."                             - Douglas Adams

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#23975

FromDer Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org>
Date2014-08-07 07:04 +0200
Message-ID<20140807070458.00006ee8@linuxmail.org>
In reply to#23961
Am Wed, 06 Aug 2014 23:09:08 +0100
schrieb Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>:

> In article <060820141440453159%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle
> Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > In article
> > <mstorkamp-CB9A66.16205606082014@news.eternal-september.org>, Mark
> > Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Where's the evidence that "Creationism is the brainchild of the
> > > Bible literalists"?
> > 
> > Creationism is the belief that the creation story in Genesis is
> > literally true.
> 
> QED.
> 

But creationisms /is/ a mere erroneous belief and not in accordance with
the facts!

Regards

Der Habakuk.

-- 
"Wenn Du Sühne willst: Das ist Rache. Nichts anderes."
Qualitätstheologe und Religionslehrer  Leps zeigt, was er so alles drauf
hat und interpretiert den Sühnetod Christi am Kreuz völlig neu!

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#23983

FromMark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com>
Date2014-08-07 11:32 -0500
Message-ID<mstorkamp-04EDCE.11324507082014@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#23960
In article <060820141440453159%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article
> <mstorkamp-CB9A66.16205606082014@news.eternal-september.org>, Mark
> Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Where's the evidence that "Creationism is the brainchild of the Bible 
> > literalists"?
> 
> Creationism is the belief that the creation story in Genesis is
> literally true.

Only the christian bible teaches creationism? Or are we defining 
creationism so narrowly that it throws out much of the worlds belief 
systems?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism#Hinduism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism#Bah.C3.A1.27.C3.AD_Faith

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#23985

FromDer Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org>
Date2014-08-07 18:58 +0200
Message-ID<20140807185808.00002ac5@linuxmail.org>
In reply to#23983
Am Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:32:46 -0500
schrieb Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com>:

> In article <060820141440453159%michelle@michelle.org>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > In article
> > <mstorkamp-CB9A66.16205606082014@news.eternal-september.org>, Mark
> > Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Where's the evidence that "Creationism is the brainchild of the
> > > Bible literalists"?
> > 
> > Creationism is the belief that the creation story in Genesis is
> > literally true.
> 
> Only the christian bible teaches creationism? 

No, you are right; there are a lot of religions and creation myths.
Nevertheless i'd guess that in the US about 95% ore more creationists
are Christians. But there are also muslim-creationists and other
religious believers who are creationists. 

> Or are we defining 
> creationism so narrowly that it throws out much of the worlds belief 
> systems?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism#Hinduism
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism#Bah.C3.A1.27.C3.AD_Faith

I know almost nothing about the Bahai but this

"Bahá'u'lláh, the Bahá'í Faith founder, taught that the Universe has
"neither beginning nor ending," and that the component elements of the
material world have always existed and will always exist.[117] In
regards to evolution and the origin of human beings, `Abdu'l-Bahá gave
extensive comments on the subject when he addressed western audiences
in the beginning of the 20th century. Transcripts of these comments can
be found in Some Answered Questions, Paris Talks and the The
Promulgation of Universal Peace. `Abdu'l-Bahá described the human
species as having evolved from a primitive form to modern man, but that
the capacity to form human intelligence was always in existence."

sounds to me as if it *could* or might be in accordance with biological
evolution. 

I also want to bring in remembrance, that the believe in a god ist not
necessarily in contradiction with the theory of evolution. 
For example one of the founders of the modern synthetic theory of
evolution Theodosius Dobzhansky was a believing and active member of
the russian-orthodox church as far as i know. 
But most propably not a literally believing christ. :-)

Regards

Der Habakuk.

-- 
"Wenn Du Sühne willst: Das ist Rache. Nichts anderes."
Qualitätstheologe und Religionslehrer  Leps zeigt, was er so alles drauf
hat und interpretiert den Sühnetod Christi am Kreuz völlig neu!

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#23992

Fromljunost@jmail.com (Laurel Junost)
Date2014-08-07 23:44 +0300
Message-ID<1lq184d.1pbzymr1h1gyaeN%ljunost@jmail.com>
In reply to#23985
Der Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org> wrote:

> > > Creationism is the belief that the creation story in Genesis is
> > > literally true.
> > 
> > Only the christian bible teaches creationism? 
> 
> No, you are right; there are a lot of religions and creation myths.

And because there are "a lot of religions and creation myths" they are
all "not true". Only true for you is an only 150 year old believe
system. You are quite naive in throwing out the 6,000 year old knowledge
of all humanity in exchange for your "scientific" cult belief.

Laurel


 

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#23995

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-08-07 19:17 -0700
Message-ID<070820141917519977%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#23992
In article <1lq184d.1pbzymr1h1gyaeN%ljunost@jmail.com>, Laurel Junost
<ljunost@jmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Creationism is the belief that the creation story in Genesis is
> > > > literally true.
> > > 
> > > Only the christian bible teaches creationism? 
> > 
> > No, you are right; there are a lot of religions and creation myths.
> 
> And because there are "a lot of religions and creation myths" they are
> all "not true". Only true for you is an only 150 year old believe
> system. You are quite naive in throwing out the 6,000 year old knowledge
> of all humanity in exchange for your "scientific" cult belief.

6,000 year old mythology compared with observation and experiment?

Do you agree that light travels at approximately 168,000 miles a
second?  Do you agree that the doppler shift is real?  Do you agree
that geometric laws are valid?

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#23997

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-08-07 22:57 -0400
Message-ID<070820142257376098%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#23995
In article <070820141917519977%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > > > > Creationism is the belief that the creation story in Genesis is
> > > > > literally true.
> > > > 
> > > > Only the christian bible teaches creationism? 
> > > 
> > > No, you are right; there are a lot of religions and creation myths.
> > 
> > And because there are "a lot of religions and creation myths" they are
> > all "not true". Only true for you is an only 150 year old believe
> > system. You are quite naive in throwing out the 6,000 year old knowledge
> > of all humanity in exchange for your "scientific" cult belief.
> 
> 6,000 year old mythology compared with observation and experiment?
> 
> Do you agree that light travels at approximately 168,000 miles a
> second? 

i don't agree.

my calculations have it at 186,000 miles per second, about 11% faster.

> Do you agree that the doppler shift is real?  Do you agree
> that geometric laws are valid?

(and yes i know it was a typo for those ready to flame)

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#24022

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2014-08-08 16:30 +0000
Message-ID<ls2tvo$p0k$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#23995
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <1lq184d.1pbzymr1h1gyaeN%ljunost@jmail.com>, Laurel Junost
> <ljunost@jmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> Creationism is the belief that the creation story in Genesis is
>>>>> literally true.
>>>> 
>>>> Only the christian bible teaches creationism? 
>>> 
>>> No, you are right; there are a lot of religions and creation myths.
>> 
>> And because there are "a lot of religions and creation myths" they are
>> all "not true". Only true for you is an only 150 year old believe
>> system. You are quite naive in throwing out the 6,000 year old knowledge
>> of all humanity in exchange for your "scientific" cult belief.
> 
> 6,000 year old mythology compared with observation and experiment?
> 
> Do you agree that light travels at approximately 168,000 miles a
> second?  Do you agree that the doppler shift is real?  Do you agree
> that geometric laws are valid?

Not if she only believes 6000 - year-old "wisdom" 8-)

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#24000

FromDer Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org>
Date2014-08-08 06:53 +0200
Message-ID<20140808065308.000034dc@linuxmail.org>
In reply to#23992
Am Thu, 7 Aug 2014 23:44:27 +0300
schrieb ljunost@jmail.com (Laurel Junost):

> Der Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> 
> > > > Creationism is the belief that the creation story in Genesis is
> > > > literally true.
> > > 
> > > Only the christian bible teaches creationism? 
> > 
> > No, you are right; there are a lot of religions and creation myths.
> 
> And because there are "a lot of religions and creation myths" they are
> all "not true". 

Thats for shure. And why do you assume that your personal
religious belief ist the one and only right one?  :-)


> Only true for you is an only 150 year old believe
> system. 

Could it be that you mistake belief with knowledge?


> You are quite naive in throwing out the 6,000 year old
> knowledge 

You think you know because you believe. 
Scinece doesn't work via believing, but via methods like observations,
developing hypotheses, testing them by experiments, analysing
and checking the results and so providing proofs or refutations,
refinement of the hypotheses and so on ... 


> of all humanity in exchange for your "scientific" cult
> belief.

You seem to be a little confused about how science works and how
religion works. 


Regards

Der Habakuk.
-- 
"Wenn Du Sühne willst: Das ist Rache. Nichts anderes."
Qualitätstheologe und Religionslehrer  Leps zeigt, was er so alles drauf
hat und interpretiert den Sühnetod Christi am Kreuz völlig neu!

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#24001

FromDer Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org>
Date2014-08-08 07:10 +0200
Message-ID<20140808071047.0000335b@linuxmail.org>
In reply to#24000
Am Fri, 8 Aug 2014 06:53:08 +0200
schrieb Der Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org>:

> Am Thu, 7 Aug 2014 23:44:27 +0300
> schrieb ljunost@jmail.com (Laurel Junost):
> 
> > Der Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Creationism is the belief that the creation story in Genesis
> > > > > is literally true.
> > > > 
> > > > Only the christian bible teaches creationism? 
> > > 
> > > No, you are right; there are a lot of religions and creation
> > > myths.
> > 
> > And because there are "a lot of religions and creation myths" they
> > are all "not true". 
> 
> Thats for shure. 

Uh, sorry! I misread 'all not true' with 'not all true'. 

But OK, then please explain, why exactly yours religion is the true
one! They often contradict each other and therefore cannot be true all
together! Even believing in one monotheistic god mankind managed to
create judaism, christianity and islam and some more religions. And
they all more or less consider the other believers to be infidels, once
rotting in hell. 


> And why do you assume that your personal
> religious belief ist the one and only right one?  :-)
> 
> 
> > Only true for you is an only 150 year old believe
> > system. 
> 
> Could it be that you mistake belief with knowledge?
> 
> 
> > You are quite naive in throwing out the 6,000 year old
> > knowledge 
> 
> You think you know because you believe. 
> Scinece doesn't work via believing, but via methods like observations,
> developing hypotheses, testing them by experiments, analysing
> and checking the results and so providing proofs or refutations,
> refinement of the hypotheses and so on ... 
> 
> 
> > of all humanity in exchange for your "scientific" cult
> > belief.
> 
> You seem to be a little confused about how science works and how
> religion works. 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Der Habakuk.



-- 
"Wenn Du Sühne willst: Das ist Rache. Nichts anderes."
Qualitätstheologe und Religionslehrer  Leps zeigt, was er so alles drauf
hat und interpretiert den Sühnetod Christi am Kreuz völlig neu!

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#24003

Frombb@lactoseintolerants.com (Burkhard Beerenobst)
Date2014-08-08 09:59 +0300
Message-ID<1lq1yt1.1x4x67j3mlha6N%bb@lactoseintolerants.com>
In reply to#24000
Der Habakuk <habakuk@linuxmail.org> wrote:

> > > No, you are right; there are a lot of religions and creation myths.
> > 
> > And because there are "a lot of religions and creation myths" they are
> > all "not true". 
> 
> Thats for shure. And why do you assume that your personal
> religious belief ist the one and only right one?  :-)

God told me.

> Scinece doesn't work via believing, but via methods like observations,
> developing hypotheses, testing them by experiments, analysing
> and checking the results and so providing proofs or refutations,
> refinement of the hypotheses and so on ... 

So then the evolution hypothesis is not science, because it cannot be
observed, cannot be tested by experiments, cannot be proved. It is just
a belief. Invented for the only reason that atheistic so-called
scientists need a replacement for creation.

> > of all humanity in exchange for your "scientific" cult
> > belief.
> 
> You seem to be a little confused about how science works and how
> religion works. 

I have no problem with science. All religions in the last 6,000 years
have no problem with science. But if you come with your evolution
hypothesis and tell me this is science, then you are like a little child
that believes in a fairy tale.

BB



 

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#24004

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-08-08 09:20 +0100
Message-ID<080820140920267391%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#24003
In article <1lq1yt1.1x4x67j3mlha6N%bb@lactoseintolerants.com>, Burkhard
Beerenobst <bb@lactoseintolerants.com> wrote:

> So then the evolution hypothesis is not science, because it cannot be
> observed,

Certainly it can be observed. That is done all the time.

> cannot be tested by experiments, cannot be proved.

Science is never "proved". There is always the possibility that a new
experiment will overturn an established theory. Einstein overturned
Newton, because Einstein does a better job than Newton of a predicting
behaviour when in the proximity of a large mass. In the case in point,
that of the Sun; Einstein could better predict the precession of the
orbit of Mercury than Newton. The discrepancy was very small, but
measurable.

Note however that the the difference *is* small, such that Newton'e
laws are used for calculating how to guide space probes quite
successfully.

It's also known - by scientists - that Einstein's theories are not the
last word as they do not incorporate quantum effects.

-- 
"If you're not able to ask questions and deal with the answers without feeling 
that someone has called your intelligence or competence into question, don't 
ask questions on Usenet where the answers won't be carefully tailored to avoid
tripping your hair-trigger insecurities."                  - D M Procida, UCSM

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#24015

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-08-08 09:05 -0700
Message-ID<080820140905339839%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#24004
In article <080820140920267391%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> Science is never "proved". There is always the possibility that a new
> experiment will overturn an established theory. Einstein overturned
> Newton, because Einstein does a better job than Newton of a predicting
> behaviour when in the proximity of a large mass. In the case in point,
> that of the Sun; Einstein could better predict the precession of the
> orbit of Mercury than Newton. The discrepancy was very small, but
> measurable.

Einstein did not overturn Newton; newtonian physics is a subset of
einsteinian physics.

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