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Re: Last Thoth?

From Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject Re: Last Thoth?
Date 2013-12-09 15:36 -0600
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <l85d60$nrq$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References <091220130719558666%michelle@michelle.org> <slrnlabpf5.1kh9.g.kreme@mbp55.local> <091220130949360236%lloydp21@live.com> <l856cp$818$1@dont-email.me> <vilain-D48CAF.13250809122013@news.individual.net>

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On 2013-12-09 21:25:08 +0000, Michael Vilain said:

> In article <l856cp$818$1@dont-email.me>,
>  Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2013-12-09 15:49:36 +0000, Lloyd said:
>> 
>>> In article <slrnlabpf5.1kh9.g.kreme@mbp55.local>, Lewis
>>> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In message <091220130719558666%michelle@michelle.org>
>>>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>>> In the email announcing Thoth 1.9.1.2, there appeared this sentence:
>>>>> "Please also note that this is the final Thoth Announcements mailing."
>>>> 
>>>>> The download, unlike previous updates, was not password protected.
>>>> 
>>>>> Also, the Thoth web page ends with this paragraph:
>>>> 
>>>>> "Thanks to everyone who registered Thoth over the years, and to all who
>>>>> offered constructive criticism, encouragement, ideas for improvements,
>>>>> and help in their own way. Special thanks to the few who re-registered,
>>>>> to Drew D. Saur for hosting Thoth downloads for so many years, and to
>>>>> Jean-Pierre Kuypers for both hosting Thoth and the long hours he spent
>>>>> providing French localization for Thoth."
>>>> 
>>>>> Sounds to me as if Brian has stopped working on the software.
>>>> 
>>>> Again?
>>> 
>>> Hopefully not.  I've emailed Brian and directly asked him.  No response
>>> as of yet.
>> 
>> I got a reply from Brian.  I won't post the email he sent as he didn't
>> indicate it was for publication.
>> 
>> It appears that Thoth will not continue.  Basically not enough
>> purchasers to make it even pay for itself, which includes the domain
>> and hosting fees.
>> 
>> I always had good service and support from Brian.  When I emailed with
>> issues, he fixed them and provided some test versions along the way to
>> what you see now.  I'll be sorry to see it go away which is what will
>> happen with no further support.
>> 
>> It is basically a dollars and sense decision on his part, and while I
>> wish it was different, I fully understand the issue.
>> 
>> I will make some suggestions to him about how he might find enough
>> success, but in the end I doubt it will make a difference.  :(
> 
> As callous as it sounds, isn't this how the free market works? How many
> great products just died because people didn't know about them?  Claris
> made all these great products that were perfect in their price points
> only to have the company vanish and the products killed off.  Except for
> Filemaker, which actually became something.
> 
> It's not like Thoth is overpriced, like Unison. Guess it's just
> economics.

??   Unison is less than $5 more than Thoth.

-- 
Lloyd

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Last Thoth? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-09 07:19 -0700
  Re: Last Thoth? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-09 15:46 +0000
    Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 09:49 -0600
      Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 13:40 -0600
        Re: Last Thoth? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-09 14:46 -0500
          Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 13:52 -0600
            Re: Last Thoth? Guenther Fischer <never@spam.invalid> - 2013-12-09 21:09 +0100
              Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 14:16 -0600
          Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-09 13:25 -0800
        Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-09 13:24 -0800
        Re: Last Thoth? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-09 13:25 -0800
          Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 15:36 -0600
            Re: Last Thoth? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-09 16:40 -0500
              Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-09 15:50 -0600
                Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-10 10:00 -0800
          Re: Last Thoth? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-09 19:01 -0700
  Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-09 07:50 -0800
    Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-10 03:00 -0500
      Re: Last Thoth? A N Niel <anniel@nym.alias.net.invalid> - 2013-12-10 09:19 -0700
        Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-10 12:40 -0600
      Re: Last Thoth? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-10 12:22 -0500
      Re: Last Thoth? Doc O'Leary <droleary@7usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-12-10 11:55 -0600
        Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-10 21:59 -0500
          Re: Last Thoth? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-11 05:12 +0000
      Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-10 10:02 -0800
      Re: Last Thoth? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2013-12-14 16:25 -0500
  Re: Last Thoth? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-09 09:08 -0800
    Re: Last Thoth? "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-12-09 19:58 +0100
    Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-19 12:50 +0000
      Re: Last Thoth? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-19 08:44 -0500
        Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-19 14:06 +0000
          Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 17:31 -0600
            Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-20 01:48 +0000
              Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 20:12 -0600
                Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-20 02:35 +0000
                Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 20:40 -0600
                Re: Last Thoth? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-12-20 02:53 +0000
                Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 20:58 -0600
                Re: Last Thoth? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2013-12-19 19:27 -0800
                Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-19 21:49 -0600
                Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-19 22:49 -0800
                Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-19 22:48 -0800
                Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-20 07:56 -0600
                Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-20 07:26 -0800
                Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-20 15:24 -0500
                Re: Last Thoth? "Mr. Strat" <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> - 2013-12-21 06:43 -0800
                Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-21 10:48 -0500
                Re: Last Thoth? Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-21 10:44 -0600
                Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-21 12:34 -0500
                Re: Last Thoth? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-21 19:33 +0000
                Re: Last Thoth? Charles <fort514@mac.com> - 2013-12-21 22:25 -0500
                Re: Last Thoth? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-20 11:34 -0500
                Re: Last Thoth? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-12-20 11:01 -0600
      Re: Last Thoth? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-19 15:00 +0000
      Re: Last Thoth? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-19 10:30 -0800
        Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-19 10:32 -0800
  Re: Last Thoth? Guenther Fischer <never@spam.invalid> - 2013-12-09 18:53 +0100
    Re: Last Thoth? "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-12-09 19:50 +0100
      Re: Last Thoth? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-09 13:04 -0800
        Re: Last Thoth? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-12-10 03:03 -0500
  Re: Last Thoth? Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2013-12-09 13:40 -0500
  Re: Last Thoth? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2013-12-09 18:36 -0800
    Re: Last Thoth? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-09 20:13 -0700
      Re: Last Thoth? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2013-12-09 19:22 -0800

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