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Re: Replying to your own message in Mail

From PhillipJones <pjones1@kimbanet.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: Replying to your own message in Mail
Date 2012-03-26 20:48 -0400
Organization albasani.net
Message-ID <jkr2p5$5eb$1@news.albasani.net> (permalink)
References (7 earlier) <4f6b4509$0$9243$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com> <1khebbv.dcua4410dft2zN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <jkfn32$ksl$1@dont-email.me> <jollyroger-6363F3.07514726032012@news.individual.net> <1khlv26.q8vaim1y1wdklN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>

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Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> Jolly Roger<jollyroger@pobox.com>  wrote:
>
>> In article<jkfn32$ksl$1@dont-email.me>,
>>   Phillip Jones<pjones1@kimbanet.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>>>> Warren Oates<warren.oates@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article<jkfbqc$ojv$1@news.albasani.net>,
>>>>>    PhillipJones<pjones1@kimbanet.com>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Followup is a convention of newsgroups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You answer a Topic or note that you want to move to such and such
>>>>>> newgroup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: newsgroup1
>>>>>> Followup: to Group2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the last line you notify the group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am setting followup to Group 2
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm really glad you set us straight on that, Phil.
>>>>
>>>> I know I was _terribly_ concerned some poor person might confuse
>>>> followup in Usenet with the 'Follow' and 'Follow All' commands the
>>>> MailFollowUp.mailbundle adds to Apple Mail. Thank goodness Phil set us
>>>> straight. Who knows how many people failed to notice we were talking
>>>> about email and not usenet? Whew! Close shave there! Confusion averted!
>>>
>>> I just thought people should know the difference. I don't use Apple Mail
>>> and I avoid using where possible Safari.  One thing Is Mail doesn't have
>>> a newsreader built in. If it did I would use it in a heart beat. How
>>> wants to use one app for Browsing, one for mail and another for
>>> Newsgroups.  That's three apps to open when you can use two or even one.
>>
>> If your most important criteria for choosing a web browser, mail client,
>> and Usenet client is the number of applications required, that's great
>> for you.
>>
>> Personally, I care more about general ease of use, features, and
>> robustness. Having separate applications for each function isn't a big
>> concern.
>
> Aye. I've always preferred the best app for the job. Not a collection of
> substandard ones bundled into one package. ClarisWorks would be the rare
> exception to integrated app 'works-style packages not sucking, being
> both well designed, without MS-type bloat, and integrated in a highly
> useful fashion.
>
> But why would I need my web browser and email client in the same app? Or
> web browser and FTP? Or email and usenet? It's not like I'm building a
> document that embeds parts of each. If my web browser is well designed
> it can send FTP links to my preferred FTP client. Or Usenet sending web
> links to my web browser. Or BitTorrent to my favourite BitTorrent app,
> etc, etc. This has been the norm since Internet Config was released
> first as shareware, then later as part of MacOS.
>
> Not to mention having multiple clients in one app makes the usual
> windows management methods far less useful for zeroing in on just my
> browser windows, or email, etc.
>
> About the only advantages I see with integrated app packages nowadays
> are reduced support and training costs in the corporate or education
> worlds. But on my own computers I'd far rather have the best solution
> for each task.
>
One advantage to an all-in-one. Is that I don't have to open or switch 
to another application for example  clicking on a URL in an email. Boom 
, it running.  If there is a Mailto in the web page. Boom, your 
immediately presented with a Proper email already addressed and ready to 
type subject and content.

with three applications  You open email and need to go to a link 
referred to then you need to open the desired web Browser. If your in 
the web browser and need to go to a Mailto and the mailto opens the 
email nothing is transferred ove it just opens an email window with not 
even the recipient address filled in (it should be).
As for News groups every newsgroup application  is either awful looking 
or you need a PhD in engineering to setup

In FireFox and Thunderbird use many of the same components library 
files. yet instead of sharing them and reducing the actual footprint of 
the applications. They duplicate opening those libraries, wasting 
memory, and not working smoothly together. For example clicking a Mailto 
opens a Blank web page first then switch to Thunderbird. That shouldn't 
happen it should instantly open TB and open the blank email with the 
recipient filled in. There is very little integration. which important 
to me I want everything to work seamlessly.

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Replying to your own message in Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-03-15 23:53 -0400
  Re: Replying to your own message in Mail dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-16 17:20 +1100
    Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-03-16 03:41 -0400
      Re: Replying to your own message in Mail dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-16 20:54 +1100
      Re: Replying to your own message in Mail mcarels@xs4all.nl (Maarten Carels) - 2012-03-16 11:13 +0100
        Re: Replying to your own message in Mail dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-16 21:55 +1100
          Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-03-16 12:46 -0400
            Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-03-16 17:08 +0000
              Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-03-16 13:13 -0400
        Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-03-16 13:02 +0000
        Re: Replying to your own message in Mail "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2012-03-16 20:34 +0000
          Re: Replying to your own message in Mail dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-17 08:47 +1100
            Re: Replying to your own message in Mail "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2012-03-17 21:26 +0000
      Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Richard H <Richard.H@invalid.invalid> - 2012-03-19 17:03 +0000
  Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-03-16 13:02 +0000
  Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2012-03-16 11:49 -0600
    Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-03-16 15:11 -0400
      Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2012-03-16 14:35 -0600
        Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-03-16 16:55 -0400
  Re: Replying to your own message in Mail "Wayne C. Morris" <wayne.morris@this.is.invalid> - 2012-03-16 15:06 -0500
  Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Sara <saramerriman@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-21 14:53 +0000
  Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-22 16:02 +1300
    Re: Replying to your own message in Mail PhillipJones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-21 23:19 -0400
      Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-22 16:23 +1300
        Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Phillip Jones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-22 00:02 -0400
          Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-22 19:52 +1300
            Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-03-22 11:11 +0000
            Re: Replying to your own message in Mail PhillipJones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-22 10:09 -0400
              Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-22 11:28 -0400
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-23 06:04 +1300
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Phillip Jones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-22 13:21 -0400
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-03-22 18:01 +0000
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail PhillipJones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-22 20:41 -0400
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2012-03-26 07:51 -0700
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-03-26 18:36 +0000
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-27 08:11 +1300
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail PhillipJones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-26 20:48 -0400
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-27 18:02 +1300
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-03-28 17:04 -0700
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-03-28 17:00 -0700
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-29 15:34 +1300
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-03-29 15:47 +1100
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-29 10:46 +0200
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-03-29 21:35 +0000
                Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-03-29 15:20 -0700
        Re: Replying to your own message in Mail PhillipJones <pjones1@kimbanet.com> - 2012-03-22 10:05 -0400
          Re: Replying to your own message in Mail jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-03-23 06:04 +1300
      Re: Replying to your own message in Mail Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2012-03-22 08:31 -0600

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