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Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 09:32 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 05:44 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 11:23 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 16:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 14:34 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:16 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 22:24 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:36 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:47 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:53 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 05:42 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:18 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 16:21 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:37 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-27 01:36 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 04:56 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:43 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-28 17:57 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-02 07:10 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-02 19:46 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-02 20:12 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 05:32 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 05:34 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-26 09:06 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:35 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 08:58 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:54 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 15:21 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-24 22:18 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:33 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:45 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 19:06 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 16:18 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 19:39 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:16 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:22 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 21:38 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 19:41 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 04:11 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 22:12 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-27 03:13 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 20:24 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-27 04:09 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 04:58 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-27 05:44 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:39 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-27 14:17 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-28 04:12 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 10:53 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-28 12:12 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2025-08-28 09:40 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 14:31 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 19:23 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 21:12 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:16 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 12:12 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:29 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 12:11 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 12:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-31 00:08 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-31 07:14 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-29 00:53 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-29 08:43 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-01 02:57 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:53 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-02 03:57 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 19:19 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 21:12 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-29 08:44 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:21 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-29 16:27 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 16:55 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 12:13 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-28 21:45 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:26 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement (was: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement) Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-30 04:41 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement (was: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-30 10:36 -0500
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 12:06 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-30 13:30 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 13:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 13:54 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-30 14:39 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-31 00:22 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 20:53 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 14:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-31 19:37 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 16:21 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:29 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 11:48 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 13:23 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 19:47 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-02 17:05 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-03 04:17 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 11:01 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 19:10 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 19:32 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-31 22:13 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:34 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-01 13:23 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-02 07:04 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-02 16:56 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-03 09:50 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 11:06 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-03 12:20 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 17:33 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-04 09:15 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 15:45 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-04 18:46 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-09-05 07:18 -0500
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-03 00:55 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-09-03 01:14 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-03 09:57 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-03 21:52 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-04 09:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-04 18:15 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-04 07:30 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-04 08:31 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-09-04 09:42 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 09:31 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 11:43 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-02 20:14 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 19:15 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-03 16:23 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 21:00 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-03 19:17 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 09:55 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 09:09 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 19:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 16:45 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 19:57 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 17:13 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 21:30 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 21:53 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 19:12 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 22:24 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 20:32 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 23:54 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 23:22 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 19:11 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 09:28 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-09-05 16:41 -0500
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 17:50 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 14:57 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 18:09 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 15:12 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 18:33 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 15:54 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 19:13 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 16:15 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 19:39 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 16:58 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 20:02 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-09-06 00:51 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 18:01 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 21:55 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-05 19:02 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 12:43 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 15:44 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-06 13:32 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 20:09 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 15:52 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 13:14 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 10:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 09:16 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 12:42 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-04 10:11 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-04 14:41 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-09-01 20:29 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 19:53 -0400
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-09-02 00:34 +0000
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-02 12:12 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-24 09:45 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 13:59 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 11:24 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 16:39 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-24 16:55 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 17:05 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-24 20:26 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 01:41 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 20:57 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-25 14:47 -0500
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 18:42 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 20:52 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 02:00 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 21:29 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 01:22 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 09:04 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 00:42 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:58 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 13:13 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 00:45 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 21:24 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-26 09:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:37 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:48 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 14:30 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:07 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:13 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 03:53 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 14:52 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 09:47 -0700
Re: Sorry, Linux Fans: Mac Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement Nick Charles <blankety_blank@blank> - 2025-08-24 13:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 21:56 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:12 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 04:26 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the WAY Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 04:32 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 14:01 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 11:17 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 14:26 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 11:38 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 16:42 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 14:31 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:12 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:27 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 18:53 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:57 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 19:17 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 16:21 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:40 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:18 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 08:56 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-25 06:58 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 12:45 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:27 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 19:34 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 21:17 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 08:59 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:29 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 14:51 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 15:41 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 19:18 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 12:16 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 12:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 22:03 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-31 07:10 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-31 22:14 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:35 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 04:36 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 21:51 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 06:19 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 02:39 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:40 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 18:52 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 21:29 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 21:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:28 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 10:02 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 10:31 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 10:44 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 10:25 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 10:55 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 12:52 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:23 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-30 14:16 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-30 14:43 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-30 22:03 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 15:54 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-31 22:16 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 11:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 13:20 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-30 22:51 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-30 19:16 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:41 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-27 14:52 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-28 04:13 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 16:22 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 19:17 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 19:46 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-30 08:44 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 19:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 21:30 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 09:03 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 09:27 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 14:50 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 18:37 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 00:40 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-26 09:02 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:30 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 22:26 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-24 23:49 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 15:57 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 00:25 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 19:13 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 16:20 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 00:34 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:42 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:20 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:44 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 01:15 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 01:20 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:24 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-25 02:26 +0100
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-24 18:20 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 08:49 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-25 06:59 -0700
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 12:55 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 00:46 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:42 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 19:38 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 10:32 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-25 13:58 -0500
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 18:44 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-28 07:07 -0500
Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement joakim@sklaffkom.se (Joakim Melin) - 2025-08-25 20:14 +0200
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-04 00:37 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-03 20:48 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-05 01:53 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 09:23 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 15:33 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-05 20:06 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-05 20:59 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 17:06 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-05 21:17 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 18:13 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-05 18:36 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-06 13:02 +0000
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-05 18:02 -0400
Re: Sorry, Mac Fans: Linux Is Actually the Better Windows Replacement Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-05 23:17 +0000
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-31 22:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1092viu$3j3qb$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #137007 |
On 2025-08-31 07:10, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 2025-08-30 10:03 p.m., Alan wrote: > > < snipped for brevity > > >>> I've already told you that I mostly avoid the functionality and that >>> I wouldn't be the right source to show _how_ it helps. Nevertheless, >>> I know how you are and I have no desire to try to convert a Mac >>> zealot the same way I wouldn't try to convert a follower of the >>> pedophile muhammad (piss be upon him). >>> >> >> OK...but you made a specific claim: >> >> "It also provides some very decent AI functionality that is completely >> absent from Safari." >> >> I'm still waiting for you to explain what this functionality is beyond >> building in Copilot. >> >> What differentiates it from just using various AI services? > > Unsurprisingly, and much like Snit and every other Mac zealot, you > refuse to let things go even after a person provides you with an answer. > > I looked it up online since, like I said repeatedly, I don't use the > features myself having browsed a certain way since 1994 and being > unwilling to change my habits. Nevertheless, Co-Pilot provides page > summarization, text rewriting and voice navigation according to a quick > search. With voice navigation, you can have Co-Pilot search for content > you might have lost in a barrage of tabs or even in your history. As far > as I know, Safari does not have this functionality. > > I imagine that you'll bring up Siri. I use Siri and it's fantastic for > giving you directions to a location. However, my experience with a > simple question this week like "Siri, where is Wembley Stadium located?" > was laughable. In every attempt, it just bombed. As for Apple > Intelligence, we already know that it is lagging significantly behind > what Microsoft offers to a point that they had to sign a deal with > OpenAI to try to bring it up to par. > > No. You did NOT provide me with an answer. You made specific claim and when asked to support it, you simply evaded.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-09-01 08:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <OqgtQ.66668$9wA1.5299@fx36.iad> |
| In reply to | #137022 |
On 2025-08-31 10:14 p.m., Alan wrote: > On 2025-08-31 07:10, CrudeSausage wrote: >> On 2025-08-30 10:03 p.m., Alan wrote: >> >> < snipped for brevity > >> >>>> I've already told you that I mostly avoid the functionality and that >>>> I wouldn't be the right source to show _how_ it helps. Nevertheless, >>>> I know how you are and I have no desire to try to convert a Mac >>>> zealot the same way I wouldn't try to convert a follower of the >>>> pedophile muhammad (piss be upon him). >>>> >>> >>> OK...but you made a specific claim: >>> >>> "It also provides some very decent AI functionality that is >>> completely absent from Safari." >>> >>> I'm still waiting for you to explain what this functionality is >>> beyond building in Copilot. >>> >>> What differentiates it from just using various AI services? >> >> Unsurprisingly, and much like Snit and every other Mac zealot, you >> refuse to let things go even after a person provides you with an answer. >> >> I looked it up online since, like I said repeatedly, I don't use the >> features myself having browsed a certain way since 1994 and being >> unwilling to change my habits. Nevertheless, Co-Pilot provides page >> summarization, text rewriting and voice navigation according to a >> quick search. With voice navigation, you can have Co-Pilot search for >> content you might have lost in a barrage of tabs or even in your >> history. As far as I know, Safari does not have this functionality. >> >> I imagine that you'll bring up Siri. I use Siri and it's fantastic for >> giving you directions to a location. However, my experience with a >> simple question this week like "Siri, where is Wembley Stadium >> located?" was laughable. In every attempt, it just bombed. As for >> Apple Intelligence, we already know that it is lagging significantly >> behind what Microsoft offers to a point that they had to sign a deal >> with OpenAI to try to bring it up to par. > > No. You did NOT provide me with an answer. > > You made specific claim and when asked to support it, you simply evaded. I've just provided you with an answer yet again. You are free to ignore it, but I'm not going to continue playing this game with you. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage Islam is the enemy John 14:6
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 04:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mh27i8F7hvsU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #136710 |
On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 18:12:53 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in <F7MqQ.193548$%RW3.158951@fx14.iad>: > On 8/24/2025 5:31 PM, Alan wrote: > >>>> More specifically, if you're "not wired for Apple", because you >>>> replaced it with Windows, what makes you more "wired" for that? >>> >>> Windows is just WYSIWYG, Mac is quirky. Linux requires comprehension, >>> which I have, but I'm not disliking using Windows again, for now. I >>> haven't made my decision about replacing it with Linux on this mini PC. >> >> Unresponsive. >> >> In what way is Windows any more WYSIWYG than macOS? > > > I could be out of date, I guess, having used macOS during Snow Leopard, > but then again it hasn't really changed fundamentally, it's > counterintuitive to me. They are on a lower intellectual level than > Microsoft, and definitely the GNU/Linux realm. People who click with > macOS are willing to pay for the privilege, but damn it's pricey, the > hardware options not competitive with Windows devices. Well, we bought a Mac Studio, which is a low-end UNIX(r) workstation, not comparable to a Windows desktop. However, for $4K more, I bought this Linux workstation from System76, and it runs rings around the Mac for my workloads. When it comes to computers, I like to buy one that will last for a while, giving it some future-proofing. For example, my Linux workstation has two 10Gbase-T Ethernet ports, one of which I use to talk to my NAS at 10Gbits/s. Hugh posted a link that you should read about "boots theory": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory Going back to the Mac, I think Thunderbolt supports 40Gbits/s connections. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong -- it may be faster now.) -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G OS: Linux 6.16.2 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18 NVIDIA: 580.76.05 Mem: 258G "Red ship crashes into blue ship - sailors marooned."
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-24 21:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <108gq5c$37ilo$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #136770 |
On 2025-08-24 21:36, vallor wrote: > On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 18:12:53 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> > wrote in <F7MqQ.193548$%RW3.158951@fx14.iad>: > >> On 8/24/2025 5:31 PM, Alan wrote: >> >>>>> More specifically, if you're "not wired for Apple", because you >>>>> replaced it with Windows, what makes you more "wired" for that? >>>> >>>> Windows is just WYSIWYG, Mac is quirky. Linux requires comprehension, >>>> which I have, but I'm not disliking using Windows again, for now. I >>>> haven't made my decision about replacing it with Linux on this mini PC. >>> >>> Unresponsive. >>> >>> In what way is Windows any more WYSIWYG than macOS? >> >> >> I could be out of date, I guess, having used macOS during Snow Leopard, >> but then again it hasn't really changed fundamentally, it's >> counterintuitive to me. They are on a lower intellectual level than >> Microsoft, and definitely the GNU/Linux realm. People who click with >> macOS are willing to pay for the privilege, but damn it's pricey, the >> hardware options not competitive with Windows devices. > > Well, we bought a Mac Studio, which is a low-end UNIX(r) workstation, > not comparable to a Windows desktop. > > However, for $4K more, I bought this Linux workstation from System76, > and it runs rings around the Mac for my workloads. I'm sorry. Are you saying you spent $4K more than you spend on a Mac Studio... ...or that you spent $4K on another machine? > > When it comes to computers, I like to buy one that will last for a while, > giving it some future-proofing. For example, my Linux workstation has > two 10Gbase-T Ethernet ports, one of which I use to talk to my NAS > at 10Gbits/s. And what do you do with the other one? > > Hugh posted a link that you should read about "boots theory": > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory > > Going back to the Mac, I think Thunderbolt supports 40Gbits/s connections. > (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong -- it may be faster now.) I think 40Gbits/s is correct.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 06:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mh2dioF7hvsU12@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #136771 |
On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 21:51:56 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in <108gq5c$37ilo$1@dont-email.me>: > On 2025-08-24 21:36, vallor wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 18:12:53 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> >> wrote in <F7MqQ.193548$%RW3.158951@fx14.iad>: >> >>> On 8/24/2025 5:31 PM, Alan wrote: >>> >>>>>> More specifically, if you're "not wired for Apple", because you >>>>>> replaced it with Windows, what makes you more "wired" for that? >>>>> >>>>> Windows is just WYSIWYG, Mac is quirky. Linux requires comprehension, >>>>> which I have, but I'm not disliking using Windows again, for now. I >>>>> haven't made my decision about replacing it with Linux on this mini PC. >>>> >>>> Unresponsive. >>>> >>>> In what way is Windows any more WYSIWYG than macOS? >>> >>> >>> I could be out of date, I guess, having used macOS during Snow Leopard, >>> but then again it hasn't really changed fundamentally, it's >>> counterintuitive to me. They are on a lower intellectual level than >>> Microsoft, and definitely the GNU/Linux realm. People who click with >>> macOS are willing to pay for the privilege, but damn it's pricey, the >>> hardware options not competitive with Windows devices. >> >> Well, we bought a Mac Studio, which is a low-end UNIX(r) workstation, >> not comparable to a Windows desktop. >> >> However, for $4K more, I bought this Linux workstation from System76, >> and it runs rings around the Mac for my workloads. > > I'm sorry. > > Are you saying you spent $4K more than you spend on a Mac Studio... Yes. Serious workstations tend to cuddle up to, if not surpass, 5 figures. Entry level will be about half that. https://system76.com/threadripper/ > > ...or that you spent $4K on another machine? No. >> >> When it comes to computers, I like to buy one that will last for a while, >> giving it some future-proofing. For example, my Linux workstation has >> two 10Gbase-T Ethernet ports, one of which I use to talk to my NAS >> at 10Gbits/s. > > And what do you do with the other one? I was going to use the NPU features for AI, but the python library didn't support it yet. I need to investigate how that is going, it's been a few months. Mrs. Vallor uses the Mac when she isn't using her Linux workstation. We're about to move my scanner to the Mac for use with document management...we have a ton of documents, and it's time to "go paperless". I also ssh into it to check the portability of software I write -- which isn't very often, but it's nice to have for that. >> >> Hugh posted a link that you should read about "boots theory": >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory >> >> Going back to the Mac, I think Thunderbolt supports 40Gbits/s connections. >> (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong -- it may be faster now.) > > I think 40Gbits/s is correct. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G OS: Linux 6.16.2 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18 NVIDIA: 580.76.05 Mem: 258G "Procrastination means never having to say you're sorry."
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 02:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <PyTqQ.196528$%RW3.124398@fx14.iad> |
| In reply to | #136770 |
On 8/25/2025 12:36 AM, vallor wrote: >> I could be out of date, I guess, having used macOS during Snow Leopard, >> but then again it hasn't really changed fundamentally, it's >> counterintuitive to me. They are on a lower intellectual level than >> Microsoft, and definitely the GNU/Linux realm. People who click with >> macOS are willing to pay for the privilege, but damn it's pricey, the >> hardware options not competitive with Windows devices. > > Well, we bought a Mac Studio, which is a low-end UNIX(r) workstation, > not comparable to a Windows desktop. > > However, for $4K more, I bought this Linux workstation from System76, > and it runs rings around the Mac for my workloads. > > When it comes to computers, I like to buy one that will last for a while, > giving it some future-proofing. For example, my Linux workstation has > two 10Gbase-T Ethernet ports, one of which I use to talk to my NAS > at 10Gbits/s. > > Hugh posted a link that you should read about "boots theory": > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory I accept that people are willing to pay Apple's prices because they like Apple's products, but it isn't even close comparing said prices to the competition. -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-26 18:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <108ld43$ah5j$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #136779 |
On 2025-08-25 02:39, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/25/2025 12:36 AM, vallor wrote: > >>> I could be out of date, I guess, having used macOS during Snow Leopard, >>> but then again it hasn't really changed fundamentally, it's >>> counterintuitive to me. They are on a lower intellectual level than >>> Microsoft, and definitely the GNU/Linux realm. People who click with >>> macOS are willing to pay for the privilege, but damn it's pricey, the >>> hardware options not competitive with Windows devices. >> >> Well, we bought a Mac Studio, which is a low-end UNIX(r) workstation, >> not comparable to a Windows desktop. >> >> However, for $4K more, I bought this Linux workstation from System76, >> and it runs rings around the Mac for my workloads. >> >> When it comes to computers, I like to buy one that will last for a while, >> giving it some future-proofing. For example, my Linux workstation has >> two 10Gbase-T Ethernet ports, one of which I use to talk to my NAS >> at 10Gbits/s. >> >> Hugh posted a link that you should read about "boots theory": >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory > > > I accept that people are willing to pay Apple's prices because they like > Apple's products, but it isn't even close comparing said prices to the > competition. Really? Show me a Windows laptop with: A 1TB SSD 16GB of RAM A 2560x1664 display And which gets Geekbench scores of 3,157 (single core) and 12,020 (multi-core). Oh, and will run literally all DAY on a single charge. And show me what it costs. My MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,199 (plus tax of course) See just how much you'd "save"...
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-26 18:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <3VqrQ.27842$zoSa.7340@fx47.iad> |
| In reply to | #136848 |
On 8/26/2025 6:40 PM, Alan wrote: >> I accept that people are willing to pay Apple's prices because they >> like Apple's products, but it isn't even close comparing said prices >> to the competition. > Really? > > Show me a Windows laptop with: > > A 1TB SSD > > 16GB of RAM > > A 2560x1664 display > > And which gets Geekbench scores of 3,157 (single core) and 12,020 > (multi-core). > > Oh, and will run literally all DAY on a single charge. > > And show me what it costs. > > My MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,199 (plus tax of course) > > See just how much you'd "save"... How about this: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Plus-Laptop-14-inch/dp/B0D73XHQGH?th=1 -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-26 21:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <108ln2k$clbn$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #136851 |
On 2025-08-26 18:52, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/26/2025 6:40 PM, Alan wrote: > >>> I accept that people are willing to pay Apple's prices because they >>> like Apple's products, but it isn't even close comparing said prices >>> to the competition. > >> Really? >> >> Show me a Windows laptop with: >> >> A 1TB SSD >> >> 16GB of RAM >> >> A 2560x1664 display >> >> And which gets Geekbench scores of 3,157 (single core) and 12,020 >> (multi-core). >> >> Oh, and will run literally all DAY on a single charge. >> >> And show me what it costs. >> >> My MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,199 (plus tax of course) >> >> See just how much you'd "save"... > > > How about this: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Plus-Laptop-14- > inch/dp/B0D73XHQGH?th=1 > Hmmm, let's see: With a 1TB SSD Admittedly 32GB of RAM Slightly higher resolution display Only gets two thirds my machine's single core score and is pretty much equal in multicore Weighs more than my MacBook (30% more) And... ...and this is the kicker... ...is just $250 less expensive. Which is a little less than 12% cheaper. Sorry, but your "isn't even close" claim doesn't hold up. $250 over even a 2 year life is just an additional $10 a month.
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-26 21:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <DjtrQ.382321$3yJ3.316955@fx16.iad> |
| In reply to | #136861 |
On 8/26/2025 9:29 PM, Alan wrote: > On 2025-08-26 18:52, Joel W. Crump wrote: >> On 8/26/2025 6:40 PM, Alan wrote: >> >>>> I accept that people are willing to pay Apple's prices because they >>>> like Apple's products, but it isn't even close comparing said prices >>>> to the competition. >> >>> Really? >>> >>> Show me a Windows laptop with: >>> >>> A 1TB SSD >>> >>> 16GB of RAM >>> >>> A 2560x1664 display >>> >>> And which gets Geekbench scores of 3,157 (single core) and 12,020 >>> (multi-core). >>> >>> Oh, and will run literally all DAY on a single charge. >>> >>> And show me what it costs. >>> >>> My MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,199 (plus tax of course) >>> >>> See just how much you'd "save"... >> >> How about this: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Plus-Laptop-14- >> inch/dp/B0D73XHQGH?th=1 > > Hmmm, let's see: > > With a 1TB SSD > > Admittedly 32GB of RAM > > Slightly higher resolution display > > Only gets two thirds my machine's single core score and is pretty much > equal in multicore > > Weighs more than my MacBook (30% more) > > And... > > ...and this is the kicker... > > ...is just $250 less expensive. > > Which is a little less than 12% cheaper. > > Sorry, but your "isn't even close" claim doesn't hold up. > > $250 over even a 2 year life is just an additional $10 a month. According to Google's conversion of Canadian money to American, it's about $375 USD less, actually - and does have more RAM and a little more screen resolution, and isn't out of the ballpark CPU-wise. Face it, your love for Apple is making you make excuses for their overpriced crapware. They're lame as fuck. You may like your laptop, that's fine, but it's overpriced, there's no denying it. -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-27 09:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <108n16c$mqnn$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #136864 |
On 2025-08-26 21:37, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/26/2025 9:29 PM, Alan wrote: >> On 2025-08-26 18:52, Joel W. Crump wrote: >>> On 8/26/2025 6:40 PM, Alan wrote: >>> >>>>> I accept that people are willing to pay Apple's prices because they >>>>> like Apple's products, but it isn't even close comparing said >>>>> prices to the competition. >>> >>>> Really? >>>> >>>> Show me a Windows laptop with: >>>> >>>> A 1TB SSD >>>> >>>> 16GB of RAM >>>> >>>> A 2560x1664 display >>>> >>>> And which gets Geekbench scores of 3,157 (single core) and 12,020 >>>> (multi-core). >>>> >>>> Oh, and will run literally all DAY on a single charge. >>>> >>>> And show me what it costs. >>>> >>>> My MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,199 (plus tax of course) >>>> >>>> See just how much you'd "save"... >>> >>> How about this: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Plus-Laptop-14- >>> inch/dp/B0D73XHQGH?th=1 >> >> Hmmm, let's see: >> >> With a 1TB SSD >> >> Admittedly 32GB of RAM >> >> Slightly higher resolution display >> >> Only gets two thirds my machine's single core score and is pretty much >> equal in multicore >> >> Weighs more than my MacBook (30% more) >> >> And... >> >> ...and this is the kicker... >> >> ...is just $250 less expensive. >> >> Which is a little less than 12% cheaper. >> >> Sorry, but your "isn't even close" claim doesn't hold up. >> >> $250 over even a 2 year life is just an additional $10 a month. > > > According to Google's conversion of Canadian money to American, it's > about $375 USD less, actually - and does have more RAM and a little more > screen resolution, and isn't out of the ballpark CPU-wise. Face it, > your love for Apple is making you make excuses for their overpriced > crapware. They're lame as fuck. You may like your laptop, that's fine, > but it's overpriced, there's no denying it. > Your claim that, "it isn't even close comparing" Sorry... ...but why can't you just admit you were wrong?
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-27 10:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <zdErQ.422832$l%O3.197315@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #136885 |
On 8/27/2025 9:28 AM, Alan wrote: >>>>> Show me a Windows laptop with: >>>>> >>>>> A 1TB SSD >>>>> >>>>> 16GB of RAM >>>>> >>>>> A 2560x1664 display >>>>> >>>>> And which gets Geekbench scores of 3,157 (single core) and 12,020 >>>>> (multi-core). >>>>> >>>>> Oh, and will run literally all DAY on a single charge. >>>>> >>>>> And show me what it costs. >>>>> >>>>> My MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,199 (plus tax of course) >>>>> >>>>> See just how much you'd "save"... >>>> >>>> How about this: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Plus-Laptop-14- >>>> inch/dp/B0D73XHQGH?th=1 >>> >>> Hmmm, let's see: >>> >>> With a 1TB SSD >>> >>> Admittedly 32GB of RAM >>> >>> Slightly higher resolution display >>> >>> Only gets two thirds my machine's single core score and is pretty >>> much equal in multicore >>> >>> Weighs more than my MacBook (30% more) >>> >>> And... >>> >>> ...and this is the kicker... >>> >>> ...is just $250 less expensive. >>> >>> Which is a little less than 12% cheaper. >>> >>> Sorry, but your "isn't even close" claim doesn't hold up. >>> >>> $250 over even a 2 year life is just an additional $10 a month. >> >> According to Google's conversion of Canadian money to American, it's >> about $375 USD less, actually - and does have more RAM and a little >> more screen resolution, and isn't out of the ballpark CPU-wise. Face >> it, your love for Apple is making you make excuses for their >> overpriced crapware. They're lame as fuck. You may like your laptop, >> that's fine, but it's overpriced, there's no denying it. > > Your claim that, "it isn't even close comparing" > > Sorry... ...but why can't you just admit you were wrong? The price difference seems substantial to me, but admittedly, if you really want macOS, the price may not be the most important factor. -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-27 10:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <108n4rd$ntmd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #136894 |
On 2025-08-27 10:02, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/27/2025 9:28 AM, Alan wrote: > >>>>>> Show me a Windows laptop with: >>>>>> >>>>>> A 1TB SSD >>>>>> >>>>>> 16GB of RAM >>>>>> >>>>>> A 2560x1664 display >>>>>> >>>>>> And which gets Geekbench scores of 3,157 (single core) and 12,020 >>>>>> (multi-core). >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, and will run literally all DAY on a single charge. >>>>>> >>>>>> And show me what it costs. >>>>>> >>>>>> My MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,199 (plus tax of course) >>>>>> >>>>>> See just how much you'd "save"... >>>>> >>>>> How about this: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Plus- >>>>> Laptop-14- inch/dp/B0D73XHQGH?th=1 >>>> >>>> Hmmm, let's see: >>>> >>>> With a 1TB SSD >>>> >>>> Admittedly 32GB of RAM >>>> >>>> Slightly higher resolution display >>>> >>>> Only gets two thirds my machine's single core score and is pretty >>>> much equal in multicore >>>> >>>> Weighs more than my MacBook (30% more) >>>> >>>> And... >>>> >>>> ...and this is the kicker... >>>> >>>> ...is just $250 less expensive. >>>> >>>> Which is a little less than 12% cheaper. >>>> >>>> Sorry, but your "isn't even close" claim doesn't hold up. >>>> >>>> $250 over even a 2 year life is just an additional $10 a month. >>> >>> According to Google's conversion of Canadian money to American, it's >>> about $375 USD less, actually - and does have more RAM and a little >>> more screen resolution, and isn't out of the ballpark CPU-wise. Face >>> it, your love for Apple is making you make excuses for their >>> overpriced crapware. They're lame as fuck. You may like your >>> laptop, that's fine, but it's overpriced, there's no denying it. >> >> Your claim that, "it isn't even close comparing" >> >> Sorry... ...but why can't you just admit you were wrong? > > > The price difference seems substantial to me, but admittedly, if you > really want macOS, the price may not be the most important factor. > Is 13% more expensive really "not even close"?
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-27 10:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oRErQ.267674$nuHb.161613@fx10.iad> |
| In reply to | #136896 |
On 8/27/2025 10:31 AM, Alan wrote: >>>>>>> My MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,199 (plus tax of course) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See just how much you'd "save"... >>>>>> >>>>>> How about this: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Plus- >>>>>> Laptop-14- inch/dp/B0D73XHQGH?th=1 >>>>> >>>>> Hmmm, let's see: >>>>> >>>>> With a 1TB SSD >>>>> >>>>> Admittedly 32GB of RAM >>>>> >>>>> Slightly higher resolution display >>>>> >>>>> Only gets two thirds my machine's single core score and is pretty >>>>> much equal in multicore >>>>> >>>>> Weighs more than my MacBook (30% more) >>>>> >>>>> And... >>>>> >>>>> ...and this is the kicker... >>>>> >>>>> ...is just $250 less expensive. >>>>> >>>>> Which is a little less than 12% cheaper. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, but your "isn't even close" claim doesn't hold up. >>>>> >>>>> $250 over even a 2 year life is just an additional $10 a month. >>>> >>>> According to Google's conversion of Canadian money to American, it's >>>> about $375 USD less, actually - and does have more RAM and a little >>>> more screen resolution, and isn't out of the ballpark CPU-wise. >>>> Face it, your love for Apple is making you make excuses for their >>>> overpriced crapware. They're lame as fuck. You may like your >>>> laptop, that's fine, but it's overpriced, there's no denying it. >>> >>> Your claim that, "it isn't even close comparing" >>> >>> Sorry... ...but why can't you just admit you were wrong? >> >> The price difference seems substantial to me, but admittedly, if you >> really want macOS, the price may not be the most important factor. > > Is 13% more expensive really "not even close"? It's over 23%, according to my math, based on ~$1590 USD equivalent for your price. But again, you may be willing to pay it, and that's fine. -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-29 10:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <108sd9l$1ve8c$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #136900 |
On 8/27/25 10:44, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/27/2025 10:31 AM, Alan wrote: > >>>>>>>> My MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,199 (plus tax of course) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> See just how much you'd "save"... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How about this: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Plus- >>>>>>> Laptop-14- inch/dp/B0D73XHQGH?th=1 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hmmm, let's see: >>>>>> >>>>>> With a 1TB SSD >>>>>> >>>>>> Admittedly 32GB of RAM >>>>>> >>>>>> Slightly higher resolution display >>>>>> >>>>>> Only gets two thirds my machine's single core score and is pretty >>>>>> much equal in multicore >>>>>> >>>>>> Weighs more than my MacBook (30% more) >>>>>> >>>>>> And... >>>>>> >>>>>> ...and this is the kicker... >>>>>> >>>>>> ...is just $250 less expensive. >>>>>> >>>>>> Which is a little less than 12% cheaper. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, but your "isn't even close" claim doesn't hold up. >>>>>> >>>>>> $250 over even a 2 year life is just an additional $10 a month. >>>>> >>>>> According to Google's conversion of Canadian money to American, >>>>> it's about $375 USD less, actually - and does have more RAM and a >>>>> little more screen resolution, and isn't out of the ballpark CPU- >>>>> wise. Face it, your love for Apple is making you make excuses for >>>>> their overpriced crapware. They're lame as fuck. You may like >>>>> your laptop, that's fine, but it's overpriced, there's no denying it. >>>> >>>> Your claim that, "it isn't even close comparing" >>>> >>>> Sorry... ...but why can't you just admit you were wrong? >>> >>> The price difference seems substantial to me, but admittedly, if you >>> really want macOS, the price may not be the most important factor. >> >> Is 13% more expensive really "not even close"? > > > It's over 23%, according to my math, based on ~$1590 USD equivalent for > your price. But again, you may be willing to pay it, and that's fine. But by how much should the Dell get handicapped in this comparison attempt because it weighs 2.7lbs vs 3.9lbs = 44% more? This isn't a desktop, so such mobility relevant metrics do matter. Particularly since this was obvious because the baseline was the "Air" model, not the standard MBP (and at 3.4lbs, heavier) version. So it seems to me that another Windows candidate needs to be identified in lieu of this particular Dell. How about finding an example that's at least within 10-15% of the Air's weight bogey? While (of course) still also meeting useful battery life & other mentioned hardware specs too. -hh
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-29 10:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <PbjsQ.711105$xyt3.141624@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #136957 |
On 8/29/2025 10:25 AM, -hh wrote: > On 8/27/25 10:44, Joel W. Crump wrote: >> On 8/27/2025 10:31 AM, Alan wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> My MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,199 (plus tax of course) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> See just how much you'd "save"... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How about this: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Plus- >>>>>>>> Laptop-14- inch/dp/B0D73XHQGH?th=1 [snip for brevity] >>>> The price difference seems substantial to me, but admittedly, if you >>>> really want macOS, the price may not be the most important factor. >>> >>> Is 13% more expensive really "not even close"? >> >> It's over 23%, according to my math, based on ~$1590 USD equivalent >> for your price. But again, you may be willing to pay it, and that's >> fine. > > But by how much should the Dell get handicapped in this comparison > attempt because it weighs 2.7lbs vs 3.9lbs = 44% more? > > This isn't a desktop, so such mobility relevant metrics do matter. > > Particularly since this was obvious because the baseline was the "Air" > model, not the standard MBP (and at 3.4lbs, heavier) version. > > So it seems to me that another Windows candidate needs to be identified > in lieu of this particular Dell. How about finding an example that's at > least within 10-15% of the Air's weight bogey? While (of course) still > also meeting useful battery life & other mentioned hardware specs too. I don't think you're likely to find a Windows laptop that can in every respect compare to the Air - they are exceptionally light, that being said though, the specs were not *that* impressive, I agree the Apple Silicon rocks, but that's only one aspect of the whole product. I can understand one having a preference for macOS and Apple products, but price does matter at the end of the day, all Macs are pricey. -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-29 12:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <108slsl$23uje$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #136961 |
On 8/29/25 10:55, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/29/2025 10:25 AM, -hh wrote: >> On 8/27/25 10:44, Joel W. Crump wrote: >>> On 8/27/2025 10:31 AM, Alan wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>> My MacBook Air (M3) cost me $2,199 (plus tax of course) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> See just how much you'd "save"... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How about this: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Plus- >>>>>>>>> Laptop-14- inch/dp/B0D73XHQGH?th=1 > > > [snip for brevity] > > >>>>> The price difference seems substantial to me, but admittedly, if >>>>> you really want macOS, the price may not be the most important factor. >>>> >>>> Is 13% more expensive really "not even close"? >>> >>> It's over 23%, according to my math, based on ~$1590 USD equivalent >>> for your price. But again, you may be willing to pay it, and that's >>> fine. >> >> But by how much should the Dell get handicapped in this comparison >> attempt because it weighs 2.7lbs vs 3.9lbs = 44% more? >> >> This isn't a desktop, so such mobility relevant metrics do matter. >> >> Particularly since this was obvious because the baseline was the "Air" >> model, not the standard MBP (and at 3.4lbs, heavier) version. >> >> So it seems to me that another Windows candidate needs to be >> identified in lieu of this particular Dell. How about finding an >> example that's at least within 10-15% of the Air's weight bogey? >> While (of course) still also meeting useful battery life & other >> mentioned hardware specs too. > > > I don't think you're likely to find a Windows laptop that can in every > respect compare to the Air - they are exceptionally light, that being > said though, the specs were not *that* impressive, I agree the Apple > Silicon rocks, but that's only one aspect of the whole product. Except we're not asking for *every* respect; the list has been just those things which make it a practical workplace tool, with weight & battery life included since a laptop - especially the Air -- has a design intent for being a mobile device. This leaves the price tag for achieving a comparable level of capability wide open. > I can > understand one having a preference for macOS and Apple products, but > price does matter at the end of the day, all Macs are pricey. Except we're not directly having a preference for MacOS for this is mostly a hardware comparison, and all you've offered so far is a Dell that's significantly heavier & slower at moderately lower price point. If Windows vendors can't match these core hardware features at any price, then be honest enough to just say so. -hh
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-30 08:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <108ucd9$2gcdi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #136963 |
On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 12:52:31 -0400, -hh wrote: >> I don't think you're likely to find a Windows laptop that can in >> every respect compare to the Air ... Some might disagree <https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-found-the-ultimate-macbook-air-alternative-for-windows-users-and-its-priced-well/> ...
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-30 14:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <108vf6c$2npgg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #136979 |
On 8/30/25 04:23, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 12:52:31 -0400, -hh wrote: >> [Joel wrote]: >>> I don't think you're likely to find a Windows laptop that can in >>> every respect compare to the Air ... > > Some might disagree > <https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-found-the-ultimate-macbook-air-alternative-for-windows-users-and-its-priced-well/> ... A decent find, albeit with a 20% lower single core Geekbench score. There's also some potential 'compatibility' concerns with it being ARM based, as the MS-Windows ecosystem isn't all that keen there: might want to look into how much performance is effectively lost by which Windows Apps which have to run in an emulated Intel CPU mode or whatnot. -hh
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-30 14:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vDHsQ.35073$%E5f.26942@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #136996 |
On 8/30/2025 2:16 PM, -hh wrote: > On 8/30/25 04:23, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> [Joel wrote]: >>>> I don't think you're likely to find a Windows laptop that can in >>>> every respect compare to the Air ... >> >> Some might disagree >> <https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-found-the-ultimate-macbook-air- >> alternative-for-windows-users-and-its-priced-well/> ... > > A decent find, albeit with a 20% lower single core Geekbench score. > There's also some potential 'compatibility' concerns with it being ARM > based, as the MS-Windows ecosystem isn't all that keen there: might want > to look into how much performance is effectively lost by which Windows > Apps which have to run in an emulated Intel CPU mode or whatnot. Macs run x86-code emulation. -- Joel W. Crump
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