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Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?

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#136232

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-08-03 19:17 -0700
Message-ID	<106p574$1r8ge$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136230

On 2025-08-03 19:06, Marion wrote:
> On 4 Aug 2025 01:17:51 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
> 
> 
>>> Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
>>> A: Nope, not by a long shot.
>>
>> Eat shit
> 
> The simple question you're so deathly afraid of still remains Jolly Roger.
> No matter how frightened you are of something as simple as this question...
> 
> Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
> A: ?

You're such a joke.

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#136221

From	Tyrone <none@none.none>
Date	2025-08-04 00:31 +0000
Message-ID	<gzydnbR_LvT8YhL1nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to	#136211

On Aug 3, 2025 at 5:43:40 PM EDT, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>> 
>> Just like the "Arlen Fact" that iOS could not have an SMB Server because
>> Android can't!
>> 
> 
> 
> The only people who don’t make a mistake are those who don’t do anything.
> 
> He’s already admitted to being wrong about that. Have you ever been wrong?

I thought I was wrong once.   But I was mistaken.

But seriously.  Arlen called us liars and accused us of "inventing imaginary
functionality". He ALWAYS claims to have multiple iPhones/iPads, yet he
admitted to "Furiously Googling" in his attempt to prove us wrong about the
SMB Server.  

What NEVER occurred to him was to install the SMB server on HIS OWN
iPhone/iPad and TRY IT. Gee, I wonder why?  Because he obviously has NO
iPhones/iPads.  If he did, he would know SOMETHING about iPhones/iPads. 

Why are you ALWAYS defending Arlen? You sound more and more like ANOTHER sock
puppet every time you run to his defense.

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#136222

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-04 01:01 +0000
Message-ID	<106p0pr$hjh$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136221

On Mon, 04 Aug 2025 00:31:29 +0000, Tyrone wrote :


> What NEVER occurred to him was to install the SMB server on HIS OWN
> iPhone/iPad and TRY IT. Gee, I wonder why?  Because he obviously has NO
> iPhones/iPads.  If he did, he would know SOMETHING about iPhones/iPads.

First off, to the adults on this newsgroup, to have Jolly Roger or Joerg or
Alan Baker or Chris or any of the other uneducated trolls claim anything,
is meaningless - because they have proven to have no credibility.

Only Tyrone was believable when he claimed what he did about SMS.
Nobody else.

I didn't believe Tyrone either, but given he has "some" credibility, I
tested it and found out that, shockingly so, Tyrone was correct.

It's possibly the first time in history an Apple troll was correct.

So there is at least one thing that iOS does that Android doesn't do.
But... 

Is there anything else?
Chris & Jolly Roger have already claimed there is lots else.

And yet... 
The fact remains that they can't name a single one.

I'm not afraid of this question, but clearly the Apple trolls are afraid.

Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?

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#136225

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-04 01:17 +0000
Message-ID	<mfag0nFsif3U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136222

On 2025-08-04, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Aug 2025 00:31:29 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
>
>> What NEVER occurred to him was to install the SMB server on HIS OWN
>> iPhone/iPad and TRY IT. Gee, I wonder why?  Because he obviously has
>> NO iPhones/iPads.  If he did, he would know SOMETHING about
>> iPhones/iPads.
>
> First off, to the adults on this newsgroup, to have Jolly Roger or
> Joerg or Alan Baker or Chris or any of the other uneducated trolls
> claim anything, is meaningless - because they have proven to have no
> credibility.

...says the dip shit troll who called every single one of us "trolls"
for correcting his bullshit lie that iPhones can't run SMB servers, much
less on default ports. Bitch, you've NEVER had any credibility. You're a
pathetic fucking joke of a human being. And badgolferman is your little
bootlicker. Even after he caught you impersonating him, he sticks up for
your bullshit trolls. 🤣

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#136229

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-04 02:05 +0000
Message-ID	<106p4i3$1ufl$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136225

On 4 Aug 2025 01:17:11 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :


>  Bitch, you've NEVER had any credibility.

The simple question you're so deathly afraid of still remains Jolly Roger.
No matter how frightened you are of something as simple as this question... 

Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?

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#136233

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-08-03 19:17 -0700
Message-ID	<106p57j$1r8ge$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136229

On 2025-08-03 19:05, Marion wrote:
> On 4 Aug 2025 01:17:11 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
> 
> 
>>   Bitch, you've NEVER had any credibility.
> 
> The simple question you're so deathly afraid of still remains Jolly Roger.
> No matter how frightened you are of something as simple as this question...
> 
> Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
> A: ?

You're such a joke.

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#136224

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-04 01:12 +0000
Message-ID	<mfafocFsif3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136221

On 2025-08-04, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
> On Aug 3, 2025 at 5:43:40 PM EDT, "badgolferman"
><REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just like the "Arlen Fact" that iOS could not have an SMB Server
>>> because Android can't!
>> 
>> The only people who don’t make a mistake are those who don’t do
>> anything.
>> 
>> He’s already admitted to being wrong about that. Have you ever been
>> wrong?
>
> I thought I was wrong once.   But I was mistaken.
>
> But seriously.  Arlen called us liars and accused us of "inventing
> imaginary functionality". He ALWAYS claims to have multiple
> iPhones/iPads, yet he admitted to "Furiously Googling" in his attempt
> to prove us wrong about the SMB Server.  

We're all supposed to ignore that part of it, like weak, little troll
supporters. The always-forgiving and supportive badgolferman is the
model we should follow. We aren't supposed to expect adult behavior from
the one person in the Apple newsgroups who *constantly* accuses anyone
who doesn't put up with his childish antics "children" and claims he is
the only adult in the room. 😉

> What NEVER occurred to him was to install the SMB server on HIS OWN
> iPhone/iPad and TRY IT. Gee, I wonder why?  Because he obviously has
> NO iPhones/iPads.  If he did, he would know SOMETHING about
> iPhones/iPads. 

I'm sure he'd spew his weak lies either way.

> Why are you ALWAYS defending Arlen? You sound more and more like
> ANOTHER sock puppet every time you run to his defense.

He's right there with him, every step of the way.

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#136231

From	"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-04 02:13 +0000
Message-ID	<106p4vm$1u466$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136221

Tyrone wrote:

>Why are you ALWAYS defending Arlen? You sound more and more like
>ANOTHER sock puppet every time you run to his defense.

I'm not defending Arlen.  I happen to not be a resentful, hateful
person like Jolly Roger.  I can let things go.

The reality is Arlen is more on topic than anyone else in this group.
He provides interesting topics and provides useful information about
the iPhone.  Alan just denies everything, Jolly Roger just attacks
everything, Lorenz just obfuscates everything.  I haven't paid enough
attention to you yet, but maybe if you provided some iPhone topics
which you'd like to discuss then this group could follow what interests
you.

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#136234

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-08-03 19:18 -0700
Message-ID	<106p58o$1rfij$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136231

On 2025-08-03 19:13, badgolferman wrote:
> Tyrone wrote:
> 
>> Why are you ALWAYS defending Arlen? You sound more and more like
>> ANOTHER sock puppet every time you run to his defense.
> 
> 
> I'm not defending Arlen.  I happen to not be a resentful, hateful
> person like Jolly Roger.  I can let things go.

Yes you are.

> 
> The reality is Arlen is more on topic than anyone else in this group.
> He provides interesting topics and provides useful information about
> the iPhone.  Alan just denies everything, Jolly Roger just attacks
> everything, Lorenz just obfuscates everything.  I haven't paid enough
> attention to you yet, but maybe if you provided some iPhone topics
> which you'd like to discuss then this group could follow what interests
> you.

I deny bullshit.

It's not my fault that Arlen (and you) almost always post bullshit.

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#136237

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date	2025-08-04 18:09 +1200
Message-ID	<106piql$20l8r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136231

On 2025-08-04 02:13:10 +0000, badgolferman said:
> Tyrone wrote:
>> 
>> Why are you ALWAYS defending Arlen? You sound more and more like
>> ANOTHER sock puppet every time you run to his defense.
> 
> I'm not defending Arlen.  I happen to not be a resentful, hateful
> person like Jolly Roger.  I can let things go.
> 
> The reality is Arlen is more on topic than anyone else in this group.

Posting utter garbage and lies is NOT "on topic". Cross-posting his 
trolling nonsense to the Mac and/or Android newsgroups is also not 
"on-topic".

> He provides interesting topics and provides useful information about
> the iPhone.

Posting utter garbage and lies is NOT even remotely "useful 
information". Some people cmoing here may not know that he is a 
complete moron who knows absolutely nothing at all about Apple 
products, nor anything else for that matter ... although anyone with 
more than half a braincell will quickly work that out.

> Alan just denies everything, Jolly Roger just attacks everything, 
> Lorenz just obfuscates everything.  I haven't paid enough attention to 
> you yet, but maybe if you provided some iPhone topics which you'd like 
> to discuss then this group could follow what interests you.

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#136246

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-04 17:02 +0000
Message-ID	<mfc7c8F72etU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136231

On 2025-08-04, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tyrone wrote:
>
>>Why are you ALWAYS defending Arlen? You sound more and more like
>>ANOTHER sock puppet every time you run to his defense.
>
> I'm not defending Arlen.

Lies are all you have, little cheerleader. You defend Arlen at every
turn. And the fact that you think you can just lie about it says way
more about you than anyone else. 

> I can let things go.

Yes, even when Arlen impersonates you, you just let it go, because you
like his trolling. 

> The reality is Arlen is more on topic than anyone else in this group.

Utter bullshit. 

> He provides interesting topics and provides useful information about
> the iPhone.

He lies constantly and belittles anyone who dares to correct his
bullshit. He impersonates people (including you), but you give him a
pass because you like his trolling.

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#136248

From	sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date	2025-08-04 12:04 -0700
Message-ID	<106r087$2afoi$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136231

I think that the one thing is MDM, (Mobile Device Management) which is 
why many corporations, that provide company phones, use iPhones.

My wife's former employer (she's now retired), buys tens of thousands of 
iPhones (and AirPods) for employees. The iPhones are locked down tight 
due to HIPAA, using MDM. She had to carry a separate personal phone.

When she first started at that company they were using Nextel, which was 
a nightmare because the employees frequently traveled to more remote 
areas of the county where Nextel had no coverage.

Also, because of HIPAA, the Nextel PTT (Push To Talk) feature could not 
be used (the employees used to call it PTA (Push To Annoy)). Then they 
tried Sprint, after Sprint bought Nextel, but that was no better in 
terms of coverage. Only AT&T and Verizon have adequate coverage in 
Silicon Valley, so employees were often using their personal phones even 
for work. Thankfully, the company eventually switched to Verizon.

I still recall my sister-in-law, who switched from a Samsung Android 
phone to an iPhone, trying to set different volumes for ring and 
notifications (which she needed to do at work) and me explaining to her 
that the iPhone doesn't have that capability. She didn't believe me, and 
went to an Apple store in the mall to the Genius Bar, where they told 
her the same thing. iPhone sill lacks that capability, unless you 
Jailbreak <http://aidyc.saurik.com/package/net.midkin.smartvolumemixer/> 
or 
<http://apt.thebigboss.org/onepackage.php?bundleid=com.brend0n.volumemixer&db=> 
but I doubt if these still work.

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#136252

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-04 20:45 +0000
Message-ID	<106r65d$2aeb$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136248

On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 12:04:39 -0700, sms wrote :


> I think that the one thing is MDM, (Mobile Device Management) which is 
> why many corporations, that provide company phones, use iPhones.
> 
> My wife's former employer (she's now retired), buys tens of thousands of 
> iPhones (and AirPods) for employees. The iPhones are locked down tight 
> due to HIPAA, using MDM. She had to carry a separate personal phone.
> 
> When she first started at that company they were using Nextel, which was 
> a nightmare because the employees frequently traveled to more remote 
> areas of the county where Nextel had no coverage.
> 
> Also, because of HIPAA, the Nextel PTT (Push To Talk) feature could not 
> be used (the employees used to call it PTA (Push To Annoy)). Then they 
> tried Sprint, after Sprint bought Nextel, but that was no better in 
> terms of coverage. Only AT&T and Verizon have adequate coverage in 
> Silicon Valley, so employees were often using their personal phones even 
> for work. Thankfully, the company eventually switched to Verizon.
> 
> I still recall my sister-in-law, who switched from a Samsung Android 
> phone to an iPhone, trying to set different volumes for ring and 
> notifications (which she needed to do at work) and me explaining to her 
> that the iPhone doesn't have that capability. She didn't believe me, and 
> went to an Apple store in the mall to the Genius Bar, where they told 
> her the same thing. iPhone sill lacks that capability, unless you 
> Jailbreak <http://aidyc.saurik.com/package/net.midkin.smartvolumemixer/> 
> or 
> <http://apt.thebigboss.org/onepackage.php?bundleid=com.brend0n.volumemixer&db=> 
> but I doubt if these still work.

It's refreshing that both Steve & badgolferman brought up highly advertised 
& therefore obvious iOS capabilities that seemingly don't exist on Android. 

I know nothing about MDM, so I looked it up, where it appears that MDM 
is alive & well on Android, through Android Enterprise, which includes: 
a. Zero-touch enrollment for large-scale deployments
b. Work profiles to separate personal & corporate data
c. Remote app distribution via Managed Google Play
d. Policy enforcement, remote wipe & device tracking
e. Security features like encryption, passcode enforcement & geofencing
REFERENCES:
 <https://www.android.com/enterprise/management/>
 <https://expertinsights.com/endpoint-management/the-top-mobile-device-management-solutions-for-android>
 <https://blog.scalefusion.com/top-android-mdm-solutions/>

Apparently Android MDM solutions like Scalefusion, Microsoft Intune, 
VMware Workspace ONE, and IBM MaaS360 offer enterprise-grade controls 
that rival or exceed iOS in flexibility based on numerous articles.
REFERENCES:
 <https://simplemdm.com/blog/apple-mdm-vs-android-mdm/>
 <https://www.techtarget.com/searchmobilecomputing/post/Evaluating-top-MDMs-for-Android-and-iOS>

It's a completely different question of why some corporations prefer iOS 
over Android (and vice versa, of course), where some of those reasons may be
A. Uniformity: 
   Apple's limited device lineup makes fleet management simpler.
B. Security reputation: 
   Apple's closed ecosystem is perceived as more secure by the unknowing.
C. Apple Business Manager: 
   Offers streamlined deployment and integration with tools like Jamf.

But this doesn't mean Android can't do MDM; it just means Apple's approach
may be more appealing for certain IT teams or compliance needs.

In summary, Steve has been great in keeping tabs on what iOS and 
Android can and cannot do - which I give him credit for a valiant
effort - however - my research above shows Android has MDM too.

As such, Steve needs to be apprised that MDM isn't exclusive to iOS.
Since I think he blocks me, someone else may need to let him know.

Android Enterprise offers comprehensive device management, including 
zero-touch enrollment, work profiles and remote policy enforcement.

The real difference lies in implementation. 

Apple's ecosystem is more uniform, which some IT departments prefer 
for simplicity. But Android's flexibility and depth, especially with 
tools like Scalefusion or Intune, make it equally viable, especially
for BYOD or diverse device fleets. 

So while iPhones may be popular in some corporate settings, it's not
because Android lacks MDM. It's often just a matter of preference.

In short, as far as I can tell with research, Steve needs to rethink
the MDM but I am impressed that Steve is helping to answer the question.

The question therefore remains unanswered as far as I can tell...

Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?

Is there anything else iOS can do that Android doesn't already do?

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#136254

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-08-04 13:52 -0700
Message-ID	<106r6hq$2bibs$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136252

On 2025-08-04 13:45, Marion wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 12:04:39 -0700, sms wrote :
> 
> 
>> I think that the one thing is MDM, (Mobile Device Management) which is
>> why many corporations, that provide company phones, use iPhones.
>>
>> My wife's former employer (she's now retired), buys tens of thousands of
>> iPhones (and AirPods) for employees. The iPhones are locked down tight
>> due to HIPAA, using MDM. She had to carry a separate personal phone.
>>
>> When she first started at that company they were using Nextel, which was
>> a nightmare because the employees frequently traveled to more remote
>> areas of the county where Nextel had no coverage.
>>
>> Also, because of HIPAA, the Nextel PTT (Push To Talk) feature could not
>> be used (the employees used to call it PTA (Push To Annoy)). Then they
>> tried Sprint, after Sprint bought Nextel, but that was no better in
>> terms of coverage. Only AT&T and Verizon have adequate coverage in
>> Silicon Valley, so employees were often using their personal phones even
>> for work. Thankfully, the company eventually switched to Verizon.
>>
>> I still recall my sister-in-law, who switched from a Samsung Android
>> phone to an iPhone, trying to set different volumes for ring and
>> notifications (which she needed to do at work) and me explaining to her
>> that the iPhone doesn't have that capability. She didn't believe me, and
>> went to an Apple store in the mall to the Genius Bar, where they told
>> her the same thing. iPhone sill lacks that capability, unless you
>> Jailbreak <http://aidyc.saurik.com/package/net.midkin.smartvolumemixer/>
>> or
>> <http://apt.thebigboss.org/onepackage.php?bundleid=com.brend0n.volumemixer&db=>
>> but I doubt if these still work.
> 
> It's refreshing that both Steve & badgolferman brought up highly advertised
> & therefore obvious iOS capabilities that seemingly don't exist on Android.

So they were "highly advertised"...

...but you had to start a thread asking people to find them for you?

> 
> I know nothing about MDM, so I looked it up, where it appears that MDM

You could shorten that line to remove everything the word "nothing" and 
it would be just about as accurate.

:-)

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#136259

From	"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-04 22:06 +0000
Message-ID	<106ratb$2dqgh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136252

Marion wrote:

>On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 12:04:39 -0700, sms wrote :
>
>
>> I think that the one thing is MDM, (Mobile Device Management)
>>which is  why many corporations, that provide company phones, use
>>iPhones.   
>> My wife's former employer (she's now retired), buys tens of
>>thousands of  iPhones (and AirPods) for employees. The iPhones are
>>locked down tight  due to HIPAA, using MDM. She had to carry a
>>separate personal phone.   
>> When she first started at that company they were using Nextel,
>>which was  a nightmare because the employees frequently traveled to
>>more remote  areas of the county where Nextel had no coverage.
>> 
>> Also, because of HIPAA, the Nextel PTT (Push To Talk) feature
>>could not  be used (the employees used to call it PTA (Push To
>>Annoy)). Then they  tried Sprint, after Sprint bought Nextel, but
>>that was no better in  terms of coverage. Only AT&T and Verizon
>>have adequate coverage in  Silicon Valley, so employees were often
>>using their personal phones even  for work. Thankfully, the company
>>eventually switched to Verizon.   
>> I still recall my sister-in-law, who switched from a Samsung
>>Android  phone to an iPhone, trying to set different volumes for
>>ring and  notifications (which she needed to do at work) and me
>>explaining to her  that the iPhone doesn't have that capability.
>>She didn't believe me, and  went to an Apple store in the mall to
>>the Genius Bar, where they told  her the same thing. iPhone sill
>>lacks that capability, unless you  Jailbreak
>><http://aidyc.saurik.com/package/net.midkin.smartvolumemixer/>  or 
>>
>><http://apt.thebigboss.org/onepackage.php?bundleid=com.brend0n.volum
>>emixer&db=>  but I doubt if these still work.
>
>It's refreshing that both Steve & badgolferman brought up highly
>advertised & therefore obvious iOS capabilities that seemingly don't
>exist on Android.
>
>I know nothing about MDM, so I looked it up, where it appears that
>MDM is alive & well on Android, through Android Enterprise, which
>includes:  a. Zero-touch enrollment for large-scale deployments
>b. Work profiles to separate personal & corporate data
>c. Remote app distribution via Managed Google Play
>d. Policy enforcement, remote wipe & device tracking
>e. Security features like encryption, passcode enforcement &
>geofencing REFERENCES:
> <https://www.android.com/enterprise/management/>
>
><https://expertinsights.com/endpoint-management/the-top-mobile-device-
>management-solutions-for-android>
><https://blog.scalefusion.com/top-android-mdm-solutions/>
>
>Apparently Android MDM solutions like Scalefusion, Microsoft Intune, 
>VMware Workspace ONE, and IBM MaaS360 offer enterprise-grade controls 
>that rival or exceed iOS in flexibility based on numerous articles.
>REFERENCES:
> <https://simplemdm.com/blog/apple-mdm-vs-android-mdm/>
>
><https://www.techtarget.com/searchmobilecomputing/post/Evaluating-top-MDMs-for-Android-and-iOS>
>
>It's a completely different question of why some corporations prefer
>iOS over Android (and vice versa, of course), where some of those
>reasons may be A. Uniformity: 
>   Apple's limited device lineup makes fleet management simpler.
>B. Security reputation: 
>   Apple's closed ecosystem is perceived as more secure by the
>unknowing.  C. Apple Business Manager: 
>   Offers streamlined deployment and integration with tools like Jamf.
>
>But this doesn't mean Android can't do MDM; it just means Apple's
>approach may be more appealing for certain IT teams or compliance
>needs.
>
>In summary, Steve has been great in keeping tabs on what iOS and 
>Android can and cannot do - which I give him credit for a valiant
>effort - however - my research above shows Android has MDM too.
>
>As such, Steve needs to be apprised that MDM isn't exclusive to iOS.
>Since I think he blocks me, someone else may need to let him know.
>
>Android Enterprise offers comprehensive device management, including 
>zero-touch enrollment, work profiles and remote policy enforcement.
>
>The real difference lies in implementation. 
>
>Apple's ecosystem is more uniform, which some IT departments prefer 
>for simplicity. But Android's flexibility and depth, especially with 
>tools like Scalefusion or Intune, make it equally viable, especially
>for BYOD or diverse device fleets. 
>
>So while iPhones may be popular in some corporate settings, it's not
>because Android lacks MDM. It's often just a matter of preference.
>
>In short, as far as I can tell with research, Steve needs to rethink
>the MDM but I am impressed that Steve is helping to answer the
>question.
>
>The question therefore remains unanswered as far as I can tell...
>
>Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't
>do?  A: ?
>
>Is there anything else iOS can do that Android doesn't already do?

We have had IBM Maas360 and now Microsoft Intune.  The Microsoft
version is much better in my opinion.  It took a while for the Android
phones in our organization to be compatible with MaaS360 so they didn't
have access to encrypted emails, thus users chose the iOS phones way
more often.  Eventually the Android phones became compatible but it
wasn't long after that Intune got implemented.  Frankly I don't know
one person in our organization who uses a corporate Android phone.
Surely there are some, but it may be that you must pay an extra fee for
Intune to support Android phones.

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#136260

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date	2025-08-05 15:27 +1200
Message-ID	<106rtns$2hhbo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136259

> Marion wrote:
> 
> I know nothing

The moron finally admits what we all knew.  :-\

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#136271

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-05 20:14 +0000
Message-ID	<106too0$1vc4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136260

On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 15:27:56 +1200, Your Name wrote :


>> I knew nothing [about MDM until I looked it up]
> 
> The moron finally admits what we all knew.  

Heh heh heh... I completely understand your Apple-troll psychology which is
desperate to deflect this adult conversation away from the topic at hand.

The topic is to find something (anything) that iOS can do that Android
can't do, other than the one thing we know of that iOS can do with ports.

That iOS ability to use ports below the privileged set is useful indeed.
But is there anything else?

Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?

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#136508

From	sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date	2025-08-13 11:33 -0700
Message-ID	<107ilqd$1u4g$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136259

On 8/4/2025 3:06 PM, badgolferman wrote:

<snip> > We have had IBM Maas360 and now Microsoft Intune.  The Microsoft
> version is much better in my opinion.  It took a while for the Android
> phones in our organization to be compatible with MaaS360 so they didn't
> have access to encrypted emails, thus users chose the iOS phones way
> more often.  Eventually the Android phones became compatible but it
> wasn't long after that Intune got implemented.  Frankly I don't know
> one person in our organization who uses a corporate Android phone.
> Surely there are some, but it may be that you must pay an extra fee for
> Intune to support Android phones.

The big issue is that MDM on iOS is an Apple feature that works on all 
iPhones and iPads.

MDM on Android requires an organization choose a third party, and it 
doesn't necessarily work on all Android devices.

"No one ever got fired for buying iPhones and using Apple MDM," is akin 
to the saying "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM."

AI says: "Avoiding blame for a poor choice often outweighs the potential 
benefits of a more adventurous selection."

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#136524

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-13 21:21 +0000
Message-ID	<107ivkh$ju6$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136508

On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 11:33:48 -0700, sms wrote :


> The big issue is that MDM on iOS is an Apple feature that works on all 
> iPhones and iPads.
> 
> MDM on Android requires an organization choose a third party, and it 
> doesn't necessarily work on all Android devices.
> 
> "No one ever got fired for buying iPhones and using Apple MDM," is akin 
> to the saying "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM."
> 
> AI says: "Avoiding blame for a poor choice often outweighs the potential 
> benefits of a more adventurous selection."

Steve spent years outlining what he feels the difference is between the
iPhone and Android in terms of useful functionality differences.

And yet, as far as we can tell from the >100 posts in this thread, there is
only a single functionality that is on the iPhone that isn't on Android.

Was that tremendous documentation effort by Steve all for naught?
Well, if MDM is on Steve's list, then yes. 

But maybe Steve knows something (anything!) iOS can do that Android can't?

In a way I feel sorry for Steve, as he's overall a good guy, but he's too
desperate to claim things that his own bias strongly favors (e.g., Verizon
over T-mobile is a classic for Steve, as it appears MDM is also for Steve). 

Whether or not Steve personally prefers iOS' MDM over Android's MDM... 
 *The fact is both iOS & Android have perfectly modern & robust MDM.*
                       _Period._

Whether or not Steve or anyone likes Apple's far lower-functionality MDM
(which may be easier to set up) or Android's much greater functionality
(with correspondingly more complex setup) is a topic for another thread.

The thought question for this particular thread topic is simply whether or
not there is anything functionally useful (other than the admittedly rather
useful ability to use privileged ports) that iOS has over Android.

This is a thought-provoking ground-breaking obvious question to ask...
Q: *Is there really only one thing an iPhone can do that Android can't do?*
A: ?

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#136239

From	Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-04 07:35 +0000
Message-ID	<106pnsk$21p59$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136203

Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 11:08:42 +1200, Your Name wrote :
> 
> 
>> iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
> 
> FACT:
> Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.

[Factcheck: this is false]

>> Android *cannot* do that!
> 
> FACT:
> And yet, every major Android OEM was able to earn an "A" in efficiency.

[Factcheck: this is false]

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