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Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?

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#136258

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-04 21:01 +0000
Message-ID	<106r73u$mqs$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136239

On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 07:35:48 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :


>> FACT:
>> Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
> 
> [Factcheck: this is false]
> 
>>> Android *cannot* do that!
>> 
>> FACT:
>> And yet, every major Android OEM was able to earn an "A" in efficiency.
> 
> [Factcheck: this is false]

It's no longer shocking you Apple trolls deny that which nobody would.

Show us the "A" in efficiency that you claim Apple earned, Chris?
















HINT: It doesn't exist. You're desperate to claim an A Apple didn't earn.

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#136263

From	Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-05 07:06 +0000
Message-ID	<106sai1$2k3r8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136258

Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 07:35:48 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
> 
> 
>>> FACT:
>>> Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
>> 
>> [Factcheck: this is false]
>> 
>>>> Android *cannot* do that!
>>> 
>>> FACT:
>>> And yet, every major Android OEM was able to earn an "A" in efficiency.
>> 
>> [Factcheck: this is false]

Arlen checklist:
Denial? check!
Shift goalpost? check!
Ad hominem? check!

> It's no longer shocking you Apple trolls deny that which nobody would.
> 
> Show us the "A" in efficiency that you claim Apple earned, Chris?
> 
> HINT: It doesn't exist. You're desperate to claim an A Apple didn't earn.
> 

Logic failure. Re-read what you wrote.

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#136575

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-15 00:03 +0000
Message-ID	<107ltgd$2ups$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136263

On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 07:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :


> Arlen checklist:

Try as we might, after over a hundred posts, nobody can find anything
useful on iOS that isn't already on Android except for a single thing.

 +----------------------------------------+--------+---------+----------+
 | Feature                                | iOS    | Android | Exclusive|
 +----------------------------------------+--------+---------+----------+
 | Live Text / OCR                        | Yes    | Yes     | No       |
 | App Clips / Instant Apps               | Yes    | Yes     | No       |
 | Offline Device Tracking (Find My)      | Yes    | Yes     | No       |
 | Precise Location Toggle                | Yes    | Yes     | No       |
 | VoIP Integration (CallKit / TelecomMgr)| Yes    | Yes     | No       |
 | Private Relay / IP Obfuscation         | Yes    | Yes     | No       |
 | Background Task Scheduling             | Yes    | Yes     | No       |
 | Multicast / Raw Socket Access          | Limited| Limited | No       |
 | Bluetooth LE Audio / Nearby Sharing    | Yes    | Yes     | No       |
 | App Sandbox / Entitlement Model        | Yes    | Yes     | No       |
 | Per-App VPN Routing                    | Yes    | Yes     | No       |
 +----------------------------------------+--------+---------+----------+

Do we all yet agree that we've answered this question long ago?
 Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
 A: ?

If so, are you ready to learn why?

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#136579

From	"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-15 00:43 +0000
Message-ID	<xn0p9jmg84kz0qh000@reader443.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#136575

Marion wrote:

>On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 07:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
>
>
>> Arlen checklist:
>
>Try as we might, after over a hundred posts, nobody can find anything
>useful on iOS that isn't already on Android except for a single thing.
>
>
>+----------------------------------------+--------+---------+---------
>-+  | Feature                                | iOS    | Android |
>Exclusive|
>+----------------------------------------+--------+---------+---------
>-+  | Live Text / OCR                        | Yes    | Yes     | No
>|  | App Clips / Instant Apps               | Yes    | Yes     | No
>|  | Offline Device Tracking (Find My)      | Yes    | Yes     | No
>|  | Precise Location Toggle                | Yes    | Yes     | No
>|  | VoIP Integration (CallKit / TelecomMgr)| Yes    | Yes     | No
>|  | Private Relay / IP Obfuscation         | Yes    | Yes     | No
>|  | Background Task Scheduling             | Yes    | Yes     | No
>|  | Multicast / Raw Socket Access          | Limited| Limited | No
>|  | Bluetooth LE Audio / Nearby Sharing    | Yes    | Yes     | No
>|  | App Sandbox / Entitlement Model        | Yes    | Yes     | No
>|  | Per-App VPN Routing                    | Yes    | Yes     | No
>|
>+----------------------------------------+--------+---------+---------
>-+
>
>Do we all yet agree that we've answered this question long ago?
> Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't
>do?   A: ?
>
>If so, are you ready to learn why?

Tell me why, but first tell me why iOS can do that one thing Android
can't.

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#136580

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-15 03:11 +0000
Message-ID	<107m8gs$1g3b$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136579

On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 00:43:20 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


>>If so, are you ready to learn why?
> 
> Tell me why, but first tell me why iOS can do that one thing Android
> can't.

Hi badgolferman,

I'm sure the Apple trolls will be happy to tell you that iOS can set up a
server to bind to privileged ports WITHOUT needing to be root to do it.

On all other platforms, you need to be root, at least momentarily so, in
order to set up a server on privileged ports (Windows, Linux & Android).

Apparently iOS SMB-sharing apps appear to bind directly to TCP 445 because
they're using Apple's built-in SMB server framework (which is part of iOS)
which already has the privilege to bind to port 445.

The app itself isn't opening the socket but the app is apparently calling
into an iOS privileged system service that does it on its behalf.

On macOS, Windows, Linux & Android, you need to be root, at least
momentarily so, to allow an SMB server to bind to privileged ports.

Android (Linux) binding to ports below 1024 requires the capability
CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE. Regular apps don't have it, so non'rooted Android
apps can't bind 445.

iOS (Darwin + sandbox) doesn't uniformly enforce the classic "privileged
ports <1024 require root" rule for third-party apps. Instead, it relies on
sandboxing, entitlements, and system daemons reserving ports they need. If
no system service claims 445 and the app has Local Network permission,
binding can succeed.

Proof of statements above using the iOS SMB LAN drive 3rd-party app:
 <https://i.postimg.cc/8zk8s2mb/LANDRIVE-SMBSERVER01.jpg> Jan 24 2019
 <https://i.postimg.cc/7hgvTDRK/LANDRIVE-SMBSERVER02.jpg> LAN Drive Server
 <https://i.postimg.cc/g0TbCgRH/LANDRIVE-SMBSERVER03.jpg> Allow Bonjour
 <https://i.postimg.cc/SsHqMgxx/LANDRIVE-SMBSERVER04.jpg> Server Settings
 <https://i.postimg.cc/MpYWF0d9/LANDRIVE-SMBSERVER05.jpg> Network Ports
 <https://i.postimg.cc/wvvnFLGR/LANDRIVE-SMBSERVER06.jpg> Privileged Ports
 <https://i.postimg.cc/rp6r6Y24/LANDRIVE-01.jpg> Incessant Apple nag screen
 <https://i.postimg.cc/RFd6HS61/LANDRIVE-02.jpg> Two shares by default
 <https://i.postimg.cc/fykLSxhZ/LANDRIVE-03.jpg> Activate the SMB server
 <https://i.postimg.cc/CKPdhvWJ/LANDRIVE-04.jpg> User is Anonymous
 <https://i.postimg.cc/tRV7bNDt/LANDRIVE-05.jpg> iOS is now sharing
 <https://i.postimg.cc/c4RHg1pv/LANDRIVE-06.jpg> net use X: \\iOS\share
 <https://i.postimg.cc/d0xtPhyx/LANDRIVE-07.jpg> Allow iOS DCIM access
 <https://i.postimg.cc/B6F3rMsj/LANDRIVE-08.jpg> Command-line access only
 <https://i.postimg.cc/HsYGzpJc/LANDRIVE-09.jpg> Copy from iOS to WinPC
 <https://i.postimg.cc/pdNq0Z0G/LANDRIVE-10.jpg> Copy from WinPC to iOS


As far as anyone can show in this thread, this is the only useful
capability that iOS has that Android (and all other OS's) lack.

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#136241

From	WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date	2025-08-04 07:57 -0400
Message-ID	<0001HW.2E40D7BB0158717070000653338F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to	#136202

On Aug 2, 2025, Your Name wrote
(in article <106m5pp$1auor$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 2025-08-02 18:13:56 +0000, badgolferman said:
> > Marion wrote:
> > >
> > > In previous threads, I've proven by my own detailed testing, that
> > > there is at least one thing non-jailbroken iOS can do which unrooted
> > > Android can't.
> > >
> > > But... is there anything else?
> >
> > In iOS users can permanently share their location with others through
> > Find My. Does Android do that?
> >
> > In iOS users can creat Shortcuts which perform numerous tasks step by
> > step automatically. Does Android do that?
> >
> > I /think/ you can have multiple SIMs in iOS. Does Android do that?
>
> iOS actually works speedily and efficiently ... Android *cannot* do that!
> Admittedly, at least part of the issue is that the crappy el cheapo
> Android phones use older / slower compenents that simply can't handle
> the over-bloated newer versions of Android OS they ship with. Not doubt
> the latest version of Android runs perfectly well on the high end
> phones with faster/newer components and similar pricing to the iPhone.

The company I work for used to be standardised on WinPhones. Then MS screwed 
around with the OS, and the new version was incompatible with the old, so 
that the company’s various apps didn’t work anymore and had to be 
‘updated. They were... just in time for MS to mess with the OS _again_. We 
bailed from WonPhone and set up apps on iOS and Android, users’ choice of 
which platform. At first, 60+% were Android, including Android tablets. Over 
time, the percentage of users using Android has fallen; there are now zero 
point zero Android tablets, and under 3% and falling phones. Almost everyone 
moved to iOS/iPadOS _of their own free will. The company supported both, and 
did not care, except that many Android devices were cheaper and the company 
was paying for them. The _users_, mostly using _company apps, identical on 
both platforms, cared. the company will be dropping Android support in 
December. Existing apps on Androids will continue to work, but there will be 
no new updates, and new apps will not be created for Android. The Voice of 
the People has been heard...

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#136242

From	"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Date	2025-08-04 15:34 +0100
Message-ID	<mfbun0F5803U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136241

On 04/08/2025 12:57, WolfFan wrote:
> On Aug 2, 2025, Your Name wrote
> (in article <106m5pp$1auor$1@dont-email.me>):
> 
>> On 2025-08-02 18:13:56 +0000, badgolferman said:
>>> Marion wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In previous threads, I've proven by my own detailed testing, that
>>>> there is at least one thing non-jailbroken iOS can do which unrooted
>>>> Android can't.
>>>>
>>>> But... is there anything else?
>>>
>>> In iOS users can permanently share their location with others through
>>> Find My. Does Android do that?
>>>
>>> In iOS users can creat Shortcuts which perform numerous tasks step by
>>> step automatically. Does Android do that?
>>>
>>> I /think/ you can have multiple SIMs in iOS. Does Android do that?
>>
>> iOS actually works speedily and efficiently ... Android *cannot* do that!
>> Admittedly, at least part of the issue is that the crappy el cheapo
>> Android phones use older / slower compenents that simply can't handle
>> the over-bloated newer versions of Android OS they ship with. Not doubt
>> the latest version of Android runs perfectly well on the high end
>> phones with faster/newer components and similar pricing to the iPhone.
> 
> The company I work for used to be standardised on WinPhones. Then MS screwed
> around with the OS, and the new version was incompatible with the old, so
> that the company’s various apps didn’t work anymore and had to be
> ‘updated. They were... just in time for MS to mess with the OS _again_. We
> bailed from WonPhone and set up apps on iOS and Android, users’ choice of
> which platform. At first, 60+% were Android, including Android tablets. Over
> time, the percentage of users using Android has fallen; there are now zero
> point zero Android tablets, and under 3% and falling phones. Almost everyone
> moved to iOS/iPadOS _of their own free will. The company supported both, and
> did not care, except that many Android devices were cheaper and the company
> was paying for them. The _users_, mostly using _company apps, identical on
> both platforms, cared. the company will be dropping Android support in
> December. Existing apps on Androids will continue to work, but there will be
> no new updates, and new apps will not be created for Android. The Voice of
> the People has been heard...

Does your company recommend the use of anti-malware software on Apple 
devices and computers?

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#136243

From	badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-04 11:56 -0400
Message-ID	<106ql6o$288l0$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136242

On 08/04/2025 10:34, David B. wrote:
> Does your company recommend the use of anti-malware software on Apple
> devices and computers?

Mine does not, but all our devices are MDM controlled or behind the
corporate firewall.

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#136244

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-08-04 09:16 -0700
Message-ID	<106qmd4$28pa1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136243

On 2025-08-04 08:56, badgolferman wrote:
> On 08/04/2025 10:34, David B. wrote:
>> Does your company recommend the use of anti-malware software on Apple
>> devices and computers?
> 
> Mine does not, but all our devices are MDM controlled or behind the
> corporate firewall.

Please don't reply to David Brooks.

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#136245

From	badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-04 12:29 -0400
Message-ID	<106qn5e$28tp4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136244

On 08/04/2025 12:16, Alan wrote:

> Please don't reply to David Brooks.

Why not?

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#136247

From	Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-04 17:54 +0000
Message-ID	<106qs43$2a2rq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136245

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 08/04/2025 12:16, Alan wrote:
> 
>> Please don't reply to David Brooks.
> 
> Why not?

He'll eventually drag you into his crazy crusade crucify the developer of a
particular software tool. All based on unsubstantiated claims and paranoia.

Oh wait, that sounds familiar...

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#136250

From	WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date	2025-08-04 16:26 -0400
Message-ID	<0001HW.2E414EE201745E2F70000D28138F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to	#136245

On Aug 4, 2025, badgolferman wrote
(in article <106qn5e$28tp4$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 08/04/2025 12:16, Alan wrote:
>
> > Please don't reply to David Brooks.
>
> Why not?

Because he’s on a Mission From God to:

1. hunt down and utterly destroy the developers responsible for ClamX AV and 
EtreCheck

2. have my account banned from SuperNews because I tell the truth about him

3. try to make people forget that he was run out of the Royal Navy one step 
ahead of a general court for conduct unbecoming because of his behavior with 
three Nigerian and Afro-Caribbean recruits; he really likes Big Black Men. 
(Not thatb there’s anything wrong with that, except when he’s an officer 
and they are new recruits...)

He’s also an idiot, and a liar.

Hey, Davey, m’man, how goes your attempts to have my account pulled? Have 
you had your prolapsed rectum surgically repaired yet? Don’t you regret 
poking the bear... again?

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#136251

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-04 20:36 +0000
Message-ID	<mfcjtgF953dU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136250

On 2025-08-04, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
> On Aug 4, 2025, badgolferman wrote
> (in article <106qn5e$28tp4$1@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 08/04/2025 12:16, Alan wrote:
>>
>> > Please don't reply to David Brooks.
>>
>> Why not?
>
> Because he’s on a Mission From God to:
>
> 1. hunt down and utterly destroy the developers responsible for ClamX AV and 
> EtreCheck
>
> 2. have my account banned from SuperNews because I tell the truth about him
>
> 3. try to make people forget that he was run out of the Royal Navy one step 
> ahead of a general court for conduct unbecoming because of his behavior with 
> three Nigerian and Afro-Caribbean recruits; he really likes Big Black Men. 
> (Not thatb there’s anything wrong with that, except when he’s an officer 
> and they are new recruits...)
>
> He’s also an idiot, and a liar.

All of this makes him a perfect candidate for joining the Arlen troll club!

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#136264

From	WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date	2025-08-05 06:44 -0400
Message-ID	<0001HW.2E4217FF01A3809E70000C6D138F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to	#136251

On Aug 4, 2025, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <mfcjtgF953dU1@mid.individual.net>):

> On 2025-08-04, WolfFan<akwolffan@zoho.com>  wrote:
> > On Aug 4, 2025, badgolferman wrote
> > (in article <106qn5e$28tp4$1@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > On 08/04/2025 12:16, Alan wrote:
> > >
> > > > Please don't reply to David Brooks.
> > >
> > > Why not?
> >
> > Because he’s on a Mission From God to:
> >
> > 1. hunt down and utterly destroy the developers responsible for ClamX AV and
> > EtreCheck
> >
> > 2. have my account banned from SuperNews because I tell the truth about him
> >
> > 3. try to make people forget that he was run out of the Royal Navy one step
> > ahead of a general court for conduct unbecoming because of his behavior with
> > three Nigerian and Afro-Caribbean recruits; he really likes Big Black Men.
> > (Not thatb there’s anything wrong with that, except when he’s an officer
> > and they are new recruits...)
> >
> > He’s also an idiot, and a liar.
>
> All of this makes him a perfect candidate for joining the Arlen troll club!

Our David is _worse_ than Arlen. Our David has had an obsession with ClamX AV 
and its dev for almost two decades, and has added EtreCheck and its dev to 
the list of hates. Both of them, according to Our David, drop malware... 
which is invisible, haves up no space on drives, uses no RAM, uses no CPU 
cycles, does not communicate over TCP/IP, and is undetectable... by anyone 
other than Our David. Our David has been insistent about this kind of thing 
on multiple fora... and has been kicked off of multiple fora because he 
can’t provide actual evidence. Arlen is a troll. Our avid is a troll, and a 
stalker, and is actively dangerous. He has, on at least three occasions, 
demanded my ’true name’ and my employer’s name so that he can 
‘report’ me. He has, on multiple occasions, stated that he has 
‘reported’ me to SuperNews. Either he’s a liar or SN doesn’t take him 
seriously, as it’s been nearly a decade since he first made the threat and 
SN still has yet to contact me about it, much less actually do something. He 
is scum. That he is a self-hating homosexual and a racist who likes only one 
thing from blacks is just icing on the rancid cake.

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#136255

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-08-04 13:52 -0700
Message-ID	<106r6j4$2bibs$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136245

On 2025-08-04 09:29, badgolferman wrote:
> On 08/04/2025 12:16, Alan wrote:
> 
>> Please don't reply to David Brooks.
> 
> Why not?

He's a complete an utter asshole who's been on a vendetta against the 
developer of EtreCheck for years.

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#136249

From	"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Date	2025-08-04 21:08 +0100
Message-ID	<mfci9iF8fn5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136243

On 04/08/2025 16:56, badgolferman wrote:
> On 08/04/2025 10:34, David B. wrote:
>> Does your company recommend the use of anti-malware software on Apple
>> devices and computers?
> 
> Mine does not, but all our devices are MDM controlled or behind the
> corporate firewall.

Thank you. :-)

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#136257

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-04 21:01 +0000
Message-ID	<106r72s$ml1$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136243

On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 11:56:08 -0400, badgolferman wrote :


>> Does your company recommend the use of anti-malware software on Apple
>> devices and computers?
> 
> Mine does not, but all our devices are MDM controlled or behind the
> corporate firewall.

Hi badgolferman,

Bear in mind MDM is alive & well on Android also, but more to your point,
all mobile devices are insecure, whether they be iOS based or Android.
 <https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/ios-malware-stats-and-facts/>

Apple's are particularly insecure, but all of them, Android included, are
so chock full of holes that even comparing the number becomes useless.

Sure, iOS has 1-1/2 times the number of known exploits than Android
 <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog> 
many of which are in the kernel and in WebKit underlying all browsers.

But even Android has 2/3rds the number of known exploits than iOS has. 

Probably what the person was alluding to is Android has more malware than
iOS, which is true, but which is a misleading figure often misused to claim
that iOS has no malware (which isn't true), especially since both the iOS
kernel and Webkit are horridly insecure as shown by the Pegasus record.

Zero-click exploits like Pegasus have targeted iOS devices using
vulnerabilities in iMessage and Safari for example. Malware like
GoldPickaxe.iOS has been used to steal facial recognition data and banking
credentials. Sideloading and malicious configuration profiles can still
infect iPhones, especially when users are tricked into installing them.

Phishing attacks are more common on iOS than Android in enterprise
environments, according to Lookout's 2024 report.
 *Hackers target iOS more than Android*
 <https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2024/12/26/ios-more-exposed-to-attack-than-android-220-million-devices-analyzed/>

However, it's true Android has more malware than iOS for a variety of
reasons, one of which is Android is used by 70% of global mobile users.

But, as shown above, iOS still has plenty of malware to deal with,
especially given how atrociously insecure the iOS kernel & Webkit are.

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#136266

From	Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-05 10:14 -0400
Message-ID	<106t3kc$2q02v$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136199

On 8/2/2025 1:37 PM, Marion wrote:
> In previous threads, I've proven by my own detailed testing, that there is
> at least one thing non-jailbroken iOS can do which unrooted Android can't.
> 
> But... is there anything else?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Note: Understanding why iOS is designed to be brain dead is an important
> step in understanding what Apple's fundamental marketing strategies are.

Yes there is. I can go to my local Apple store 5 miles away and have 
them transfer my account, apps, and settings to a new iOS device.

I can take my iOS iPad with a broken screen to that same store and get 
it replaced at no additional cost under terms of AppleCare+. That 
includes transferring account, apps and settings.

I can run ForeFlight on iOS, but not on Android.

In fact, having moved from Android to iOS I have found nothing that I 
had on Android phones and tablets is missing on iOS. That includes 
numerous Google apps, like Google Maps. However, Android will not run 
Apple Maps and most other Apple apps. In other words, for my uses iOS 
has more choices than Android. Thank you Google for making iOS more 
attractive with iOS app versions.

If Apple is brain dead why are all those great Google apps available on iOS?

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#136509

From	sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date	2025-08-13 11:37 -0700
Message-ID	<107im0v$1u4g$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136266

On 8/5/2025 7:14 AM, Tom Elam wrote:

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> I can run ForeFlight on iOS, but not on Android.

There are several Android apps that offer the capabilities of ForeFlight.

It goes both ways. There are iOS apps with the capabilities of 
Android-only TorquePro.

-- 
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it 
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not 
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as 
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

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From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-13 21:47 +0000
Message-ID	<107j14k$28fs$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136266

On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 10:14:35 -0400, Tom Elam wrote :


>> Note: Understanding why iOS is designed to be brain dead is an important
>> step in understanding what Apple's fundamental marketing strategies are.
> 
> Yes there is. I can go to my local Apple store 5 miles away and have 
> them transfer my account, apps, and settings to a new iOS device.

Thank you for bringing up that the Apple store is a unique "product", 
but while I can go to the Apple store for my Apple products, I can also go
to the T-Mobile store for my Samsung Galaxy A32-5G which T-Mobile gave me.

In fact, I did that, and I documented it multiple times on the Android
newsgroup as I broke the port on one and I bricked another, both of which
the T-Mobile store replaced for free (T-Mobile refunded the $20 store
charge in my bill). 

All this was noted in the Android newsgroup when it happened.
 
> I can take my iOS iPad with a broken screen to that same store and get 
> it replaced at no additional cost under terms of AppleCare+. That 
> includes transferring account, apps and settings.

Thanks for suggesting that only Apple products have a warranty, 
but the fact is Samsung and T-Mobile products have a warranty also.

As I said above, T-Mobile replaced the *entire phone* when I busted the
charging port by sleeping on the cable & when I bricked the phone by
messing around with attempting to root it. All this is well documented.

I received two replacement phones, from the T-Mobile store - for free.
No warranty costs whatsoever.

> I can run ForeFlight on iOS, but not on Android.

Thanks for trying to find a functionality on the iPhone or iPad that isn't
on Android, but unfortunately for you, flight-planning software isn't it.

ForeFlight on iOS has touch planning, form-based planning, routing and
procedural advice, graphical pre-flight briefings and flight-plan filing,
with weather intelligence, aeronautical charts, approach plates, taxi
charts, hazard advice, digital logbook, gps positioning, cloud sync,  ads-b
integration, flight binders, etc., so it's clearly a useful too for pilots. 

But Android has similar flight planning, weather, charts and navigation
tools such as Garmin Pilot, FltPlan Go, Avare, Air Navigation Pro &
MyRadar, where most professionally and IFR pilots apparently use Garmin
Pilot while VFR and budget-conscious pilots tend to use Avare & FltPlan.

> In fact, having moved from Android to iOS I have found nothing that I 
> had on Android phones and tablets is missing on iOS. 

Heh heh heh.... up until you said that, you had credibility.

Do you want me to list the functionalities I use every day on Android that
are impossible to do on iOS? 

Seriously? 
Do you really want me to do that?

> That includes numerous Google apps, like Google Maps. 
> However, Android will not run 
> Apple Maps and most other Apple apps. In other words, for my uses iOS 
> has more choices than Android. Thank you Google for making iOS more 
> attractive with iOS app versions.

I'm unsure why you brought up navigation software since both Android & iOS
have navigation software - where Android has far more than does iOS overall
(e.g., OSMAnd! is on Android but not on iOS but that's not the point).

Both platforms have plenty of navigation software, so that's not going to
be a functionality that is on the iPhone or iPad that isn't on Android.

> If Apple is brain dead why are all those great Google apps available on iOS?

There's a reason I asked this rather adult thought question.
You'll never see Apple tell you the answer to this question.

After over a hundred posts, nobody yet has come up with a single
functionality that is on the iPhone or iPad that is not on Android.

I'm not afraid of the answer to this thought question.
In fact, I hope someone (anyone!) comes up with an answer.

 Q: *Is there really only 1 thing iPhones can do that Androids can't do?*
 A: ?

Note that nobody coming up with an answer, *is* an answer after all.
That's why I asked the thought-provoking question.

I know the answer.
Only after others inculcate that answer, can they begin to learn why.

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