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Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?

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#136199 — Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-02 17:37 +0000
Subject	Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
Message-ID	<106lidi$6h7$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

In previous threads, I've proven by my own detailed testing, that there is
at least one thing non-jailbroken iOS can do which unrooted Android can't.

But... is there anything else?








Note: Understanding why iOS is designed to be brain dead is an important
step in understanding what Apple's fundamental marketing strategies are.

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#136200

From	"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-02 18:13 +0000
Message-ID	<106lkh4$173h9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136199

Marion wrote:

>In previous threads, I've proven by my own detailed testing, that
>there is at least one thing non-jailbroken iOS can do which unrooted
>Android can't.
>
>But... is there anything else?
>
>

In iOS users can permanently share their location with others through
Find My.  Does Android do that?

In iOS users can creat Shortcuts which perform numerous tasks step by
step automatically.  Does Android do that?

I /think/ you can have multiple SIMs in iOS.  Does Android do that?

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#136201

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-02 21:35 +0000
Message-ID	<106m0as$379$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136200

On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 18:13:56 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


>>In previous threads, I've proven by my own detailed testing, that
>>there is at least one thing non-jailbroken iOS can do which unrooted
>>Android can't.
>>
>>But... is there anything else?
>>
>>
> 
> In iOS users can permanently share their location with others through
> Find My.  Does Android do that?
> 
> In iOS users can creat Shortcuts which perform numerous tasks step by
> step automatically.  Does Android do that?
> 
> I /think/ you can have multiple SIMs in iOS.  Does Android do that?

Great questions! Thanks for answering as Jolly Roger & Crhis just waved
their hands about some unknown mysterious magical Apple functionality that
they can't even name that they claim Apple has but not Android.

It's good you're asking. I'll check each item you (or anyone) suggests.

The more we learn about device capabilities, the more intelligent our
subsequent decisions about Apple products can we make (which is the point).
  ===================
Apple's Find My app allows users to permanently share their location with
family and friends as it integrates device tracking and people tracking in
one app.

Android has Google Maps location sharing, which allows real-time location
sharing with anyone, even across platforms, and which can be set to share
indefinitely or for a limited time. Additionally, Google's Find My Device
network has been upgraded to include location sharing features via the new
Find Hub app. 
 <https://www.airdroid.com/parent-control/find-my-friends-android/>
 
Some say it's even better than Apple's Find My but let's not go there as
doing so would make this thread impossible to come to any conclusions. 
<https://lifehacker.com/android-s-find-my-alternative-might-be-better-than-ap-1849846349>
  ===================
The Apple native Shortcuts app enables users to create multi-step
automations triggered by time, location, app use, or voice commands.

Android has Tasker (which is extremely powerful but has a steep learning
curve), MacroDroid (which is easier to use, supports triggers, actions, and
constraints), AnyWhere (which is a lightweight automation using URL
schemes, similar to iOS Shortcuts), and IFTTT (which is Cloud-based
automation across services).
  ===================
Recent iPhones support dual SIM via one physical SIM and one eSIM while
other models (like the iPhone 13 and later) support dual eSIMs.

There are too many Android phones which support dual physical SIMs to list
since the answer is that they do. Android 13+ supports Multiple Enabled
Profiles (MEPs), allowing dual SIM functionality via a single eSIM chip.

For example, Samsung Galaxy's and Pixel's support dual SIM setups,
including combinations of physical SIM and eSIM.
  ===================
A short summary I pulled off the net so these aren't my words, could be:

1. Android can permanently share location, but it's split across apps
(Google Maps, Find Hub), whereas iOS centralizes it in Find My.

2. Android offers more powerful automation tools, but they're third-party
and often less user-friendly than iOS Shortcuts.

3. Android has broader and more flexible dual SIM support, especially with
physical SIMs and newer eSIM tech.
  ===================

It's great you're thinking of what iOS can do that Android can't do.
Please come up with more suggestions as we will all learn from the effort.

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#136202

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date	2025-08-03 11:08 +1200
Message-ID	<106m5pp$1auor$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136200

On 2025-08-02 18:13:56 +0000, badgolferman said:
> Marion wrote:
>> 
>> In previous threads, I've proven by my own detailed testing, that
>> there is at least one thing non-jailbroken iOS can do which unrooted
>> Android can't.
>> 
>> But... is there anything else?
> 
> In iOS users can permanently share their location with others through
> Find My.  Does Android do that?
> 
> In iOS users can creat Shortcuts which perform numerous tasks step by
> step automatically.  Does Android do that?
> 
> I /think/ you can have multiple SIMs in iOS.  Does Android do that?

iOS actually works speedily and efficiently ... Android *cannot* do that!
Admittedly, at least part of the issue is that the crappy el cheapo 
Android phones use older / slower compenents that simply can't handle 
the over-bloated newer versions of Android OS they ship with. Not doubt 
the latest version of Android runs perfectly well on the high end 
phones with faster/newer components and similar pricing to the iPhone.

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#136203

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-03 03:15 +0000
Message-ID	<106mk84$16gt$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136202

On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 11:08:42 +1200, Your Name wrote :


> iOS actually works speedily and efficiently

FACT:
Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.

> Android *cannot* do that!

FACT:
And yet, every major Android OEM was able to earn an "A" in efficiency.

> Admittedly, at least part of the issue is that the crappy el cheapo 
> Android phones use older / slower compenents that simply can't handle 
> the over-bloated newer versions of Android OS they ship with.

The question at hand is whether or not there is more than a single useful
functionality on iOS that isn't already (usually long ago) on Android.

> Not doubt 
> the latest version of Android runs perfectly well on the high end 
> phones with faster/newer components and similar pricing to the iPhone.

Back to the topic, if anyone here feels that there is something (anything)
else iOS devices can do that Android devices can't do, then let's hear it.

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#136204

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-03 16:36 +0000
Message-ID	<mf9hg9Fns96U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136203

On 2025-08-03, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 11:08:42 +1200, Your Name wrote :
>
>> iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
>
> FACT:
> Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.

That's a lie, not a fact.

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#136206

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-08-03 10:31 -0700
Message-ID	<106o6ct$1mr8f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136204

On 2025-08-03 09:36, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2025-08-03, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 11:08:42 +1200, Your Name wrote :
>>
>>> iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
>>
>> FACT:
>> Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
> 
> That's a lie, not a fact.
> 

He doesn't really understand that "fact" doesn't mean the same thing as 
"assertion", does he?

:-)

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#136207

From	Tyrone <none@none.none>
Date	2025-08-03 17:41 +0000
Message-ID	<8BednUP7Y_rTAhL1nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to	#136206

On Aug 3, 2025 at 1:31:09 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2025-08-03 09:36, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2025-08-03, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 11:08:42 +1200, Your Name wrote :
>>> 
>>>> iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
>>> 
>>> FACT:
>>> Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
>> 
>> That's a lie, not a fact.
>> 
> 
> He doesn't really understand that "fact" doesn't mean the same thing as
> "assertion", does he?

IOW, its another "Arlen Fact".

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#136208

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-03 19:20 +0000
Message-ID	<106ocpo$1kvc$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136207

On Sun, 03 Aug 2025 17:41:34 +0000, Tyrone wrote :


>>>>> iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
>>>> 
>>>> FACT:
>>>> Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
>>> 
>>> That's a lie, not a fact.
>>> 
>> 
>> He doesn't really understand that "fact" doesn't mean the same thing as
>> "assertion", does he?
> 
> IOW, its another

And yet, the *FACT* remains a fact no matter how much you hate it.

Apple touted imaginary efficiency for years, that nobody could reproduce.
Now we find out even Apple can't reliably back up the imagined efficiency.

Why not?
Apple lied.

It's no more complicated than that.
it used to be Apple only told the truth in court.
But now even that "red line" has been breached by Apple.

The magical "efficiency" that you Apple trolls extol the virtues of... 
  *doesn't exist*

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#136209

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-08-03 12:24 -0700
Message-ID	<106od0m$1mr8f$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136208

On 2025-08-03 12:20, Marion wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Aug 2025 17:41:34 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
> 
> 
>>>>>> iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
>>>>>
>>>>> FACT:
>>>>> Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
>>>>
>>>> That's a lie, not a fact.
>>>>
>>>
>>> He doesn't really understand that "fact" doesn't mean the same thing as
>>> "assertion", does he?
>>
>> IOW, its another
> 
> And yet, the *FACT* remains a fact no matter how much you hate it.

The FACT remains that it isn't a fact, but rather an ASSERTION.

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#136210

From	Tyrone <none@none.none>
Date	2025-08-03 21:28 +0000
Message-ID	<pLicnSKW2pP-SRL1nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to	#136208

On Aug 3, 2025 at 3:20:25 PM EDT, "Marion" <marion@facts.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2025 17:41:34 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
> 
> 
>>>>>> iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
>>>>> 
>>>>> FACT:
>>>>> Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
>>>> 
>>>> That's a lie, not a fact.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> He doesn't really understand that "fact" doesn't mean the same thing as
>>> "assertion", does he?
>> 
>> IOW, its another
> 
> And yet, the *FACT* remains a fact no matter how much you hate it.

Just like the "Arlen Fact" that iOS could not have an SMB Server because
Android can't!

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#136211

From	badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-03 21:43 +0000
Message-ID	<106ol6c$3b064$1@solani.org>
In reply to	#136210

Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
> 
> Just like the "Arlen Fact" that iOS could not have an SMB Server because
> Android can't!
> 


The only people who don’t make a mistake are those who don’t do anything. 

He’s already admitted to being wrong about that. Have you ever been wrong?

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#136214

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-08-03 15:58 -0700
Message-ID	<106opik$1r8ge$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136211

On 2025-08-03 14:43, badgolferman wrote:
> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>>
>> Just like the "Arlen Fact" that iOS could not have an SMB Server because
>> Android can't!
>>
> 
> 
> The only people who don’t make a mistake are those who don’t do anything.

It isn't about the mistakes, Quisling...

> 
> He’s already admitted to being wrong about that. Have you ever been wrong?

...it's about how LONG it takes for him to finally admit he's wrong.

AND that he declares things to be "FACTS"...

...and that he never writes anything but facts.

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#136219

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-04 00:01 +0000
Message-ID	<mfabjnFs0hjU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136214

On 2025-08-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-08-03 14:43, badgolferman wrote:
>> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just like the "Arlen Fact" that iOS could not have an SMB Server because
>>> Android can't!
>> 
>> The only people who don’t make a mistake are those who don’t do anything.
>
> It isn't about the mistakes, Quisling...
>
>> He’s already admitted to being wrong about that. Have you ever been wrong?
>
> ...it's about how LONG it takes for him to finally admit he's wrong.
>
> AND that he declares things to be "FACTS"...
>
> ...and that he never writes anything but facts.

"bUt He ApOlOgIsEd!1!"

badgolferman isn't a serious person.

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#136313

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-08 09:28 +0000
Message-ID	<1074fv4$de7$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136219

On 4 Aug 2025 00:01:59 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :

> "bUt He ApOlOgIsEd!1!"
> badgolferman isn't a serious person.

Heh heh heh... 

The Apple trolls (Alan Baker, Jolly Roger, Your Name & WolfFan) are
apparently elated (rightly so) iOS can do at least 1 thing Android can't.

Yet the question here is whether or not there's anything else iOS can do?

The adults will notice that even after days of searching, not even Chris
(who is the least Apple-trollish of the Apple trolls) has come up with
anything that iOS can do that Android can't do.

Bear in mind if both can do something, we can debate forever which platform
does it better (e.g., with or without 3rd-party apps or online servers).

So let's keep in mind the question is to find something (anything) that iOS
can do that's useful but which Android just can not do at all (non rooted).

Once we know the answer to this fundamental adult critical-though question,
only then can we begin to understand why.

For now, the question remains unanswered, even by the angry Apple trolls:
 Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
 A: ?

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#136326

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-08 15:59 +0000
Message-ID	<mfml78FtnttU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136313

On 2025-08-08, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On 4 Aug 2025 00:01:59 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
>
>> "bUt He ApOlOgIsEd!1!"
>> badgolferman isn't a serious person.
>
> Heh heh heh... 
>
> Yet the question here is whether or not there's anything else iOS can do?

Nobody cares about your stupid pissing contest. You're obsessed with
Apple. You have such a seething hatred for Apple that you spend all day
every day antagonising people in the Apple news groups. You're a fucking
loser and a troll.

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#136327

From	badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-08 12:17 -0400
Message-ID	<10757u2$qf0s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136326

On 08/08/2025 11:59, Jolly Roger wrote:

> You have such a seething hatred

Oh, the irony....

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#136331

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-08 17:26 +0000
Message-ID	<mfmq9qF312U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136327

On 2025-08-08, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 08/08/2025 11:59, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> You have such a seething hatred
>
> Oh, the irony....

"DERRHERR... Jolly hates trolls therefore he is a troll" is the weakest
clapback, which totally on-brand for you, mental weakling. Keep sucking
Arlen's tiny little mushroom baby dick, badgolferboy. You're really good
at it.

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#136333

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-08-08 10:27 -0700
Message-ID	<1075c2u$rdn8$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136327

On 2025-08-08 09:17, badgolferman wrote:
> On 08/08/2025 11:59, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
>> You have such a seething hatred
> 
> Oh, the irony....

Nah. No irony at all in what he wrote...

...which is why you clipped it.

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#136338

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-08 19:01 +0000
Message-ID	<mfmvs5F104tU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136333

On 2025-08-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-08-08 09:17, badgolferman wrote:
>> On 08/08/2025 11:59, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> 
>>> You have such a seething hatred
>> 
>> Oh, the irony....
>
> Nah. No irony at all in what he wrote...
>
> ...which is why you clipped it.

He's a coward.

-- 
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