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Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality?

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#136171

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-07-31 18:04 +0000
Message-ID	<mf1pggFel1pU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136167

On 2025-07-30, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 05:18:23 +1000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> iPhones can run an SMB server with thedefault  privileged port, among  
>> other things.
>
> So can android

Wrong.

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#136175

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-01 11:23 +1000
Message-ID	<op.3akt452pbyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to	#136171

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

>>> iPhones can run an SMB server with the
>>> default  privileged port, among  other things.

>> So can android

> Wrong.

Nope, dope

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#136180

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-01 15:18 +0000
Message-ID	<mf446fFqi6hU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136175

On 2025-08-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>>>> iPhones can run an SMB server with the default  privileged port,
>>>> among  other things.
>
>>> So can android
>
>> Wrong.
>
> Nope, dope

You're an idiot. We've already discussed the FACT that Android cannot
run an SMB server on the default port at length here, while iOS can.
Marion (Arlen) claimed otherwise and was shown to be WRONG. And here you
come weeks later trying to claim it can. You're a clown, Robbie. 🤣

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#136184

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-02 01:28 +1000
Message-ID	<op.3alw9ba7byq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to	#136180

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

>>>>> iPhones can run an SMB server with the default  privileged port,
>>>>> among  other things.

>>>> So can android

>>> Wrong.

>> Nope, dope

> You're an idiot.

We'll see who the idiot is...

> We've already discussed the FACT that Android cannot  runan SMB server  
> on the default port at length here, while iOS can.

There was no discussion, just your stupid claim.

There isnt just one android either

> Marion (Arlen) claimed otherwise and was shown to be WRONG.

Nope, claimed to be wrong, actially

> And here you  come weeks later tryingto claim it can. You're a clown,  
> Robbie. 🤣

You have always been a terminal fuckwit, Rojjy

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#136185

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-08-01 08:49 -0700
Message-ID	<106inm5$gdcb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136184

On 2025-08-01 08:28, Rod Speed wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
> 
>>>>>> iPhones can run an SMB server with the default  privileged port,
>>>>>> among  other things.
> 
>>>>> So can android
> 
>>>> Wrong.
> 
>>> Nope, dope
> 
>> You're an idiot.
> 
> We'll see who the idiot is...
> 
>> We've already discussed the FACT that Android cannot  runan SMB server 
>> on the default port at length here, while iOS can.
> 
> There was no discussion, just your stupid claim.

A claim which was confirmed by numerous posters including myself.

> 
> There isnt just one android either

Name one.

> 
>> Marion (Arlen) claimed otherwise and was shown to be WRONG.
> 
> Nope, claimed to be wrong, actially

Shown to be wrong.

I can post the screenshots again if you like.

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#136187

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-02 09:05 +1000
Message-ID	<op.3amif32cbyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to	#136185

On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 01:49:25 +1000, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2025-08-01 08:28, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>> iPhones can run an SMB server with the default  privileged port,
>>>>>>> among  other things.
>>
>>>>>> So can android
>>
>>>>> Wrong.
>>
>>>> Nope, dope
>>
>>> You're an idiot.
>>  We'll see who the idiot is...
>>
>>> We've already discussed the FACT that Android cannot  runan SMB server  
>>> on the default port at length here, while iOS can.
>>  There was no discussion, just your stupid claim.

> A claim which was confirmed by numerous posters including myself.

Which stupidly ignores the fact that there isnt just one android

>>  There isnt just one android either
>
> Name one.
>
>>
>>> Marion (Arlen) claimed otherwise and was shown to be WRONG.
>>  Nope, claimed to be wrong, actially

> Shown to be wrong.

Only with one android

> I can post the screenshots again if you like.

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#136189

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-08-01 16:08 -0700
Message-ID	<106jhdc$must$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136187

On 2025-08-01 16:05, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 01:49:25 +1000, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-08-01 08:28, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>>> iPhones can run an SMB server with the default  privileged port,
>>>>>>>> among  other things.
>>>
>>>>>>> So can android
>>>
>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>
>>>>> Nope, dope
>>>
>>>> You're an idiot.
>>>  We'll see who the idiot is...
>>>
>>>> We've already discussed the FACT that Android cannot  runan SMB 
>>>> server on the default port at length here, while iOS can.
>>>  There was no discussion, just your stupid claim.
> 
>> A claim which was confirmed by numerous posters including myself.
> 
> Which stupidly ignores the fact that there isnt just one android

Great.

Show one that can do it.

> 
>>>  There isnt just one android either
>>
>> Name one.
>>
>>>
>>>> Marion (Arlen) claimed otherwise and was shown to be WRONG.
>>>  Nope, claimed to be wrong, actially
> 
>> Shown to be wrong.
> 
> Only with one android

Prove it.

> 
>> I can post the screenshots again if you like.

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#136186

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-01 16:32 +0000
Message-ID	<mf48grFrbouU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136184

On 2025-08-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>>>>>> iPhones can run an SMB server with the default  privileged port,
>>>>>> among other things.
>
>>>>> So can android
>
>>>> Wrong.
>
>>> Nope, dope
>
>> You're an idiot.
>
> We'll see who the idiot is...

Too late, little Robbie. It's already crystal clear to anyone who knows
about this topic that you are the idiot here. Even trollboi Marion
(Arlen) admits Android can't do this. Stay dumb, loser. 🤣

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#136188

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-02 09:07 +1000
Message-ID	<op.3amiixdlbyq249@pvr2.lan>
In reply to	#136186

On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 02:32:27 +1000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>  
wrote:

> On 2025-08-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>> iPhones can run an SMB server with the default  privileged port,
>>>>>>> among other things.
>>
>>>>>> So can android
>>
>>>>> Wrong.
>>
>>>> Nope, dope
>>
>>> You're an idiot.
>>
>> We'll see who the idiot is...
>
> Too late, little Robbie.

Nope, idiot Rojjy

> It's already crystal clear to anyone who knows
> about this topic that you are the idiot here. Even trollboi Marion
> (Arlen) admits Android can't do this. Stay dumb, loser. 🤣

There isnt just one android, fuckwit

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#136190

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-08-01 16:09 -0700
Message-ID	<106jhen$must$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136188

On 2025-08-01 16:07, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 02:32:27 +1000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-08-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>>> iPhones can run an SMB server with the default  privileged port,
>>>>>>>> among other things.
>>>
>>>>>>> So can android
>>>
>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>
>>>>> Nope, dope
>>>
>>>> You're an idiot.
>>>
>>> We'll see who the idiot is...
>>
>> Too late, little Robbie.
> 
> Nope, idiot Rojjy
> 
>> It's already crystal clear to anyone who knows
>> about this topic that you are the idiot here. Even trollboi Marion
>> (Arlen) admits Android can't do this. Stay dumb, loser. 🤣
> 
> There isnt just one android, fuckwit

But you'll never actually show one that can do it...

...right?

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#136193

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-02 02:26 +0000
Message-ID	<mf5b9uF2e46U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136188

On 2025-08-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 02:32:27 +1000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>  
> wrote:
>> On 2025-08-01, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>>> iPhones can run an SMB server with the default  privileged port,
>>>>>>>> among other things.
>>>
>>>>>>> So can android
>>>
>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>
>>>>> Nope, dope
>>>
>>>> You're an idiot.
>>>
>>> We'll see who the idiot is...
>>
>> Too late, little Robbie.
>
> Nope, idiot Rojjy
>
>> It's already crystal clear to anyone who knows
>> about this topic that you are the idiot here. Even trollboi Marion
>> (Arlen) admits Android can't do this. Stay dumb, loser. 🤣
>
> There isnt just one android, fuckwit

Then it should be easy for you to back up your claim with evidence, dip
shit roo fucker.

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#136177

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-01 02:25 +0000
Message-ID	<106h8ht$16q0$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136164

On 30 Jul 2025 19:18:23 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :


> iPhones can run an SMB server with the default
> privileged port, among other things. And that has absolutely nothing to
> do with filling Apple's pockets.

Ah, yes. Thanks for jogging my memory. I've been trying to teach folks that
there's nothing iOS can do that Android can't that I forgot about ports!

You're right! 
I was wrong.

I will agree with anyone who makes a logically sensible statement.
Jolly Roger is correct. I was wrong. I apologize. 

There is one thing an unjailbroken iOS device can do that Android can't.

It's true that unjailbroken iOS can access ports below 1024 for servers.

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#136183

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-01 15:23 +0000
Message-ID	<mf44etFqi6hU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136177

On 2025-08-01, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On 30 Jul 2025 19:18:23 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
>
>> privileged port, among other things. And that has absolutely nothing
>> to do with filling Apple's pockets.
>
> Ah, yes. Thanks for jogging my memory. I've been trying to teach folks
> that there's nothing iOS can do that Android can't that I forgot about
> ports!

You lost your memory that fast, eh? 🤣

No worries, little Arlen. Pepperidge Farm always remembers. This isn't
the first time you've been caught lying about Apple products, and it
certainly won't be the last.

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#136163

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-07-30 18:57 +0000
Message-ID	<106dpv5$cbc$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136158

On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 08:47:14 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :


>> And yet, there's nothing the iPhone can do that Android doesn't do.
> 
> [Fact check: This is false]

You can't claim everything you don't understand is false, Chris.
That's not what adults do. You should strive to listen to the teacher.

In fact, we have a thread already on that topic where NOBODY could find a
single thing that the iPhone does that Android doesn't already do, Chris.

That's a lesson I thought I had already taught you Apple MAGA trolls.

You're not ready to understand *why* the iPhone can't do what Android does,
but Android does *everything* the iPhone can do, Chris. But it is a fact.

Your first step in learning why is telling us all what functionality you
think an iPhone can do that you think an Android phone cannot do. 

Bear in mind functionality is not "brand name", in that, for example, let's
say someone claims "AirDrop(TM)" is an iPhone-only feature. That's a brand
name, not unique functionality. Android has its own equivalents which are
even better (in that they work on all platforms, yes, even on iOS).

So saying "iPhones have AirDrop" isn't a valid argument if you claim that
there is some functionality that the iPhone can do that Android doesn't do.

Imagine claiming iPhones are superior because they have FaceTime, when
Google Meet, Zoom, WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, and a dozen other apps offer
video calls with broader compatibility. That's not functionality, Chris.
That's just brand worship.

Here is your second lesson of the day, where you Apple trolls know nothing
about Apple products as you don't even understand these basic truisms.

1. There is nothing iPhones can do that Android doesn't already do
2. There is plenty that Android can do that iPhones cannot do.
3. The reason is simple - 
   a. Apple severely restricts what app developers can write
   b. Google can't.

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#136165

From	Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date	2025-07-30 21:21 +0000
Message-ID	<106e2c3$3e6i8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136163

Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 08:47:14 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
> 
> 
>>> And yet, there's nothing the iPhone can do that Android doesn't do.
>> 
>> [Fact check: This is false]
> 
> You can't claim everything you don't understand is false, Chris.
> That's not what adults do. You should strive to listen to the teacher.
> 
> In fact, we have a thread already on that topic where NOBODY could find a
> single thing that the iPhone does that Android doesn't already do, Chris.

Your memory is failing you or your denialism is such that reality is a
foreign country. You yourself admitted there was something an iphone could
do that an android phone couldn't. 

I'll leave it for you to remember. It was only a few weeks ago.

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#136176

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-01 02:23 +0000
Message-ID	<106h8ep$15o5$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136165

On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 21:21:07 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :


>> In fact, we have a thread already on that topic where NOBODY could find a
>> single thing that the iPhone does that Android doesn't already do, Chris.
> 
> Your memory is failing you or your denialism is such that reality is a
> foreign country. You yourself admitted there was something an iphone could
> do that an android phone couldn't. 
> 
> I'll leave it for you to remember. It was only a few weeks ago.

Well, Jolly Roger brought it up just now, so I will agree I was wrong.

There is one thing unjailbroken iOS can do that Android cannot do.

Unjailbroken iOS can access ports below 1024 for servers, such as for SMB.
Hence I fully agree there is this 1 thing iOS can do that Android can't do.

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#136178

From	Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date	2025-08-01 06:39 +0000
Message-ID	<106hne8$82hj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#136176

Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 21:21:07 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
> 
> 
>>> In fact, we have a thread already on that topic where NOBODY could find a
>>> single thing that the iPhone does that Android doesn't already do, Chris.
>> 
>> Your memory is failing you or your denialism is such that reality is a
>> foreign country. You yourself admitted there was something an iphone could
>> do that an android phone couldn't. 
>> 
>> I'll leave it for you to remember. It was only a few weeks ago.
> 
> Well, Jolly Roger brought it up just now, so I will agree I was wrong.
> 
> There is one thing unjailbroken iOS can do that Android cannot do.
> 
> Unjailbroken iOS can access ports below 1024 for servers, such as for SMB.
> Hence I fully agree there is this 1 thing iOS can do that Android can't do. 

There are others...

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#136182

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-01 15:20 +0000
Message-ID	<mf4491Fqi6hU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136178

On 2025-08-01, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 21:21:07 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
>> 
>>>> In fact, we have a thread already on that topic where NOBODY could find a
>>>> single thing that the iPhone does that Android doesn't already do, Chris.
>>> 
>>> Your memory is failing you or your denialism is such that reality is a
>>> foreign country. You yourself admitted there was something an iphone could
>>> do that an android phone couldn't. 
>>> 
>>> I'll leave it for you to remember. It was only a few weeks ago.
>> 
>> Well, Jolly Roger brought it up just now, so I will agree I was wrong.
>> 
>> There is one thing unjailbroken iOS can do that Android cannot do.
>> 
>> Unjailbroken iOS can access ports below 1024 for servers, such as for SMB.
>> Hence I fully agree there is this 1 thing iOS can do that Android can't do. 
>
> There are others...

Of course there are. But trolls gotta troll.

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#136192

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-08-02 00:25 +0000
Message-ID	<106jlte$2pnv$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136182

On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 06:39:04 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :


>> Unjailbroken iOS can access ports below 1024 for servers, such as for SMB.
>> Hence I fully agree there is this 1 thing iOS can do that Android can't do. 
> 
> There are others...

Name it and we'll discuss it, which is what adults do on adult newsgroups.

If you think there's another functionality other than servers on privileged
ports that you feel iOS can do that Android can't do, just name it.

Note that we're not talking about brand names but actual functionality.

For example,nospam would tout AirDrop as a unique Apple feature for fast,
local file sharing but Android has had a similar feature for years called
Nearby Share (now evolving into Quick Share in collaboration with Samsung
and Google).

Yet many iPhone users still believe Android lacks this capability because
Apple branded it so effectively and Android's version wasn't as heavily
marketed.

So name a functionality (not a brand name) you feel iOS can do that Android
can't. 

Once you realize they won't exist, then you're ready to learn why.

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#136195

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-08-02 02:29 +0000
Message-ID	<mf5bg2F2e46U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136192

On 2025-08-02, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 06:39:04 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
>
>>> Unjailbroken iOS can access ports below 1024 for servers, such as
>>> for SMB.  Hence I fully agree there is this 1 thing iOS can do that
>>> Android can't do. 
>> 
>> There are others...
>
> Name it and I'll deny it and move the goal post around until you get
> tired of dealing with my bullshit and I declare "victory".

FTFY

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