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Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality?

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#135971 — Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality?

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-07-23 01:09 +0000
Subject	Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware functionality?
Message-ID	<105pcoj$9dc$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware
functionality?

While every iPhone lacks basic hardware, most of Android has it.

This Android search shows 2,114 Android phones with the sd slot included.
 <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1>

That's out of 3205 Android phones (if I remove the sd slot criteria).
 <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2>

That means 66% of Android phones out there still have the sd slot hardware.

Out of 223 Samsung Android phones currently being sold today
 <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2>

Out of those 223, 165 have the sd slot, which is 74% of Samsung phones.
 <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sMakers=9&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1>

As for Sony's 22 models currently sold today, 100% have the sd slot.
 <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sMakers=7&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2>
 <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sMakers=7&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1>

There are things a phone with a card in the sd slot can do that are
impossible to do any other way - so I agree it's a critically important
basic hardware feature if you want to make the most of your phone.

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#135972

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-07-22 18:41 -0700
Message-ID	<105pel4$mek3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#135971

On 2025-07-22 18:09, Marion wrote:
> Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware
> functionality?
> 
> While every iPhone lacks basic hardware, most of Android has it.
> 
> This Android search shows 2,114 Android phones with the sd slot included.
>   <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1>
 > > That's out of 3205 Android phones (if I remove the sd slot criteria).
>   <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2>
> 
> That means 66% of Android phones out there still have the sd slot hardware.

Which proves... ...what?

> 
> Out of 223 Samsung Android phones currently being sold today
>   <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2>
> 
> Out of those 223, 165 have the sd slot, which is 74% of Samsung phones.
>   <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sMakers=9&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1>

Same question.

> 
> As for Sony's 22 models currently sold today, 100% have the sd slot.
>   <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sMakers=7&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2>
>   <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sMakers=7&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1>
> 
> There are things a phone with a card in the sd slot can do that are
> impossible to do any other way - so I agree it's a critically important
> basic hardware feature if you want to make the most of your phone.

But do people really end up DOING those things...

...and how many of those phones never ever have an SD card IN the slot?

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#135975

From	badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date	2025-07-23 03:03 +0000
Message-ID	<105pjdo$2l3b3$1@solani.org>
In reply to	#135971

Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> Why is the iPhone always lacking in basic industry standard hardware
> functionality?
> 
> While every iPhone lacks basic hardware, most of Android has it.
> 
> This Android search shows 2,114 Android phones with the sd slot included.
>  <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1>
> 
> That's out of 3205 Android phones (if I remove the sd slot criteria).
>  <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2>
> 
> That means 66% of Android phones out there still have the sd slot hardware.
> 
> Out of 223 Samsung Android phones currently being sold today
>  <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2>
> 
> Out of those 223, 165 have the sd slot, which is 74% of Samsung phones.
>  <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sMakers=9&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1>
> 
> As for Sony's 22 models currently sold today, 100% have the sd slot.
>  <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sMakers=7&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2>
>  <https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sMakers=7&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1>
> 
> There are things a phone with a card in the sd slot can do that are
> impossible to do any other way - so I agree it's a critically important
> basic hardware feature if you want to make the most of your phone.
> 

Having an SD slot would be very useful. Last month when my wife and I went
on vacation to California, it was a chore trying to combine all the videos
and pictures from both our phones into one picture folder on the computer. 

I had to play around with several apps and/or local network connections to
transfer all the files from both phones, especially large videos, to the
computer by WiFi. Then I had to sort them, delete ones we didn’t like,
rename them to something which makes sense. 

If we had SD slots I could have just saved all my pictures to the card,
handed her the card next to save all her pictures to it, copy them to the
computer. Then arrange and rename them using a real keyboard and finally
copy whatever we wanted back to the phones. 

Using an SD card to get the files on the computer and back to the phone
would have been much easier and intuitive.

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#135977

From	Tyrone <none@none.none>
Date	2025-07-23 03:28 +0000
Message-ID	<772dnRnX3a1xyx31nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to	#135975

On Jul 22, 2025 at 11:03:20 PM EDT, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Having an SD slot would be very useful. Last month when my wife and I went
> on vacation to California, it was a chore trying to combine all the videos
> and pictures from both our phones into one picture folder on the computer.

That's because you don't have iPhones and iCloud.

> I had to play around with several apps and/or local network connections to
> transfer all the files from both phones, especially large videos, to the
> computer by WiFi. Then I had to sort them, delete ones we didn’t like,
> rename them to something which makes sense.

That's because you don't have iPhones and iCloud.

> If we had SD slots I could have just saved all my pictures to the card,
> handed her the card next to save all her pictures to it, copy them to the
> computer. Then arrange and rename them using a real keyboard and finally
> copy whatever we wanted back to the phones.

That is WAY more complicated. And manual. Not automatic. The whole point of
computers and networks is to AUTOMATE chores like this.

> Using an SD card to get the files on the computer and back to the phone
> would have been much easier and intuitive.

That's funny. My wife and I combine photos all the time without using antique
hardware. That's because we have modern hardware. We have iPhones and iPads. 
 She texts me the photos or videos, I save them (using my iPhone or iPad). 
These ALL get automatically downloaded to my Windows PCs AND my Macs. 

Or I can text her MY photos, she saves them (using her iPhone or iPad) and
they all get automatically downloaded to HER Windows PC.

Done.

Why you want to fiddle around manually swapping antique cards is a mystery. 
But then, we live in the 21st century. You and Arlen are still stuck in 2005.

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#135982

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-07-23 15:32 +0000
Message-ID	<mecdjuFr76fU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#135977

On 2025-07-23, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 2025 at 11:03:20 PM EDT, "badgolferman"
><REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Having an SD slot would be very useful. Last month when my wife and I went
>> on vacation to California, it was a chore trying to combine all the videos
>> and pictures from both our phones into one picture folder on the computer.
>
> That's because you don't have iPhones and iCloud.
>
>> I had to play around with several apps and/or local network connections to
>> transfer all the files from both phones, especially large videos, to the
>> computer by WiFi. Then I had to sort them, delete ones we didn’t like,
>> rename them to something which makes sense.
>
> That's because you don't have iPhones and iCloud.
>
>> If we had SD slots I could have just saved all my pictures to the card,
>> handed her the card next to save all her pictures to it, copy them to the
>> computer. Then arrange and rename them using a real keyboard and finally
>> copy whatever we wanted back to the phones.
>
> That is WAY more complicated. And manual. Not automatic. The whole point of
> computers and networks is to AUTOMATE chores like this.
>
>> Using an SD card to get the files on the computer and back to the phone
>> would have been much easier and intuitive.
>
> That's funny. My wife and I combine photos all the time without using antique
> hardware. That's because we have modern hardware. We have iPhones and iPads. 
>  She texts me the photos or videos, I save them (using my iPhone or iPad). 
> These ALL get automatically downloaded to my Windows PCs AND my Macs. 
>
> Or I can text her MY photos, she saves them (using her iPhone or iPad) and
> they all get automatically downloaded to HER Windows PC.

I'd use AirDrop instead. Way faster.

> Done.
>
> Why you want to fiddle around manually swapping antique cards is a mystery. 

Because: troll.

> But then, we live in the 21st century. You and Arlen are still stuck in 2005.

They have to live in the past in order for their lame troll to work.

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#135983

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-07-23 20:24 +0000
Message-ID	<105rgd0$2g8b$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#135982

On 23 Jul 2025 15:32:14 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :


>> But then, we live in the 21st century.
> 
> They have to live in the past in order for their lame troll to work.

No iPhone on the planet can do what any Android phone with an sd card can.

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#135984

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-07-23 13:54 -0700
Message-ID	<105ri5g$dfaf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#135983

On 2025-07-23 13:24, Marion wrote:
> On 23 Jul 2025 15:32:14 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
> 
> 
>>> But then, we live in the 21st century.
>>
>> They have to live in the past in order for their lame troll to work.
> 
> No iPhone on the planet can do what any Android phone with an sd card can.

Like what?

Do you think most people who buy smartphones even know what an SD card is?

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#135985

From	Tyrone <none@none.none>
Date	2025-07-23 21:47 +0000
Message-ID	<-Ymcnb7ZtpIfxRz1nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to	#135983

On Jul 23, 2025 at 4:24:00 PM EDT, "Marion" <marion@facts.com> wrote:

> On 23 Jul 2025 15:32:14 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
> 
> 
>>> But then, we live in the 21st century.
>> 
>> They have to live in the past in order for their lame troll to work.
> 
> No iPhone on the planet can do what any Android phone with an sd card can.

Correct.  iPhones do it faster, better and AUTOMATICALLY.   

But DO continue to live in 2005 and manually dick around with "memory cards".
  That's the only way this "point" works.

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#135987

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-07-23 23:19 +0000
Message-ID	<105rqm1$21nn$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#135985

On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 21:47:46 +0000, Tyrone wrote :


>>>> But then, we live in the 21st century.
>>> 
>>> They have to live in the past in order for their lame troll to work.
>> 
>> No iPhone on the planet can do what any Android phone with an sd card can.
> 
> Correct.  iPhones do it faster, better and AUTOMATICALLY.   
> 
> But DO continue to live in 2005 and manually dick around with "memory cards".
>   That's the only way this "point" works.

The question to ask is WHY did Apple take away your choice of hardware?

Why does one of the most profitable companies on the planet sell to you a
phone where you have to buy back the most basic of storage functionality?

Put in blunt terms: *Apple _screwed_ you - for greed alone*.

There are no advantages to you in not having an sd card.
Only disadvantages.

All the advantages are in profit to Apple.
Tim Cook laughs at you all the way to the bank.

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#135989

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date	2025-07-23 16:25 -0700
Message-ID	<105rr1t$frfk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#135987

On 2025-07-23 16:19, Marion wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 21:47:46 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
> 
> 
>>>>> But then, we live in the 21st century.
>>>>
>>>> They have to live in the past in order for their lame troll to work.
>>>
>>> No iPhone on the planet can do what any Android phone with an sd card can.
>>
>> Correct.  iPhones do it faster, better and AUTOMATICALLY.
>>
>> But DO continue to live in 2005 and manually dick around with "memory cards".
>>    That's the only way this "point" works.
> 
> The question to ask is WHY did Apple take away your choice of hardware?

In order to charge less for the iPhone.

> 
> Why does one of the most profitable companies on the planet sell to you a
> phone where you have to buy back the most basic of storage functionality?
> 
> Put in blunt terms: *Apple _screwed_ you - for greed alone*.

They don't sell anything that would LET you buy it back...

...so they have no greed motive.

> There are no advantages to you in not having an sd card.

Lower cost, smaller form factor, (potentially) fewer ports to seal 
against water.

> Only disadvantages.
> 
> All the advantages are in profit to Apple.
> Tim Cook laughs at you all the way to the bank.

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#135991

From	Tyrone <none@none.none>
Date	2025-07-23 23:55 +0000
Message-ID	<sGGdnR5tldHk6xz1nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to	#135987

On Jul 23, 2025 at 7:19:30 PM EDT, "Marion" <marion@facts.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 21:47:46 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
> 
> 
>>>>> But then, we live in the 21st century.
>>>> 
>>>> They have to live in the past in order for their lame troll to work.
>>> 
>>> No iPhone on the planet can do what any Android phone with an sd card can.
>> 
>> Correct.  iPhones do it faster, better and AUTOMATICALLY.
>> 
>> But DO continue to live in 2005 and manually dick around with "memory cards".
>>   That's the only way this "point" works.
> 
> The question to ask is WHY did Apple take away your choice of hardware?

Because I don't need it.  That's yet ANOTHER REASON that I CHOOSE to buy
iPhones. 

You are such a doofus. Removing slow, obsolete hardware is NOT "taking away a
choice". Why don't phones come with "industry standard" 2400BPS modems?  
"Industry standard" cassette tape drives? "Industry standard" CRT screens? 

Only 25% (and dropping every year) of phones in the U.S. still have an SD
slot.  "Industry Standard" indeed. SD cards are legacy equipment at this
point.  They will be down to 10% in the U.S. in 5 years.

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#135995

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-07-24 00:28 +0000
Message-ID	<105run3$ki$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#135991

On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 23:55:37 +0000, Tyrone wrote :


>> The question to ask is WHY did Apple take away your choice of hardware?
> 
> Because I don't need it.  That's yet ANOTHER REASON that I CHOOSE to buy
> iPhones.

Why do you think Apple is so profitable, Tyrone?

You yourself just said you paid hundreds of dollars for functionality that
you had to buy back that you claimed just now that you never even needed.

HINT: If you bought more than 64GB storage, you paid hundreds too much.

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#135998

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-07-24 00:32 +0000
Message-ID	<medd85F1qq5U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#135995

On 2025-07-24, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 23:55:37 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
>
>>> The question to ask is WHY did Apple take away your choice of hardware?
>> 
>> Because I don't need it.  That's yet ANOTHER REASON that I CHOOSE to buy
>> iPhones.
>
> Why do you think Apple is so profitable, Tyrone?

Because people love their products. And you *HATE* that so much you
literally spend all day every day trolling the Apple newsgroups., like
the complete loser you are.

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JR

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#136000

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-07-24 00:34 +0000
Message-ID	<105rv25$5ri$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#135998

On 24 Jul 2025 00:32:05 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :


>> Why do you think Apple is so profitable, Tyrone?
> 
> Because people love their products.

The point is to explain a key strategic reason why Apple is so profitable.
It's brilliant how they remove basic functionality so you must buy it back.

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#136011

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-07-24 14:10 +0000
Message-ID	<meet6fF9elvU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136000

On 2025-07-24, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On 24 Jul 2025 00:32:05 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
>
>>> Why do you think Apple is so profitable, Tyrone?
>> 
>> Because people love their products.
>
> The point is

Your only point is to troll. And your trolls are weak.

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#136018

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-07-24 16:00 +0000
Message-ID	<105tlad$17oi$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136011

On 24 Jul 2025 14:10:23 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :


> Your only point is

My point is to teach you that Apple is brilliant in forcing innocent people
like you are to buy back missing functionality at grossly inflated prices.

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#136023

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-07-24 19:34 +0000
Message-ID	<mefg59Fch5uU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136018

On 2025-07-24, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On 24 Jul 2025 14:10:23 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
>
>> Your only point is
>
> My point is to teach you

Says the clown who claimed it was impossible for iOS devices to run SMB
servers, doubling down when you were easily proved wrong. 🤣  You're in
no position to tech anyone anything about Apple.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#136030

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-07-24 21:22 +0000
Message-ID	<105u85s$92$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136023

On 24 Jul 2025 19:34:02 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :


> You're in no position to tech anyone anything about Apple.

Well, maybe you could spend a moment to learn what Apple did to you.

Apple fucked you up the ass by their lack of basic hardware functionality.
And you don't even realize it because you paid a lot to buy it all back.

Apple's profits are from people like you who don't understand strategy.
Lucky you that I'm here to teach you all about what Apple's strategy is.

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#136044

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date	2025-07-25 14:37 +0000
Message-ID	<mehj4cFn462U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#136030

On 2025-07-24, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On 24 Jul 2025 19:34:02 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
>
>> You're in no position to tech anyone anything about Apple.
>
> Well, maybe you could

You were adamant that iPhones supposedly couldn't run SMB servers, and
after multiple people (including me) easily proved you WRONG, you
doubled down and continued to lie, because: troll. You know next to
nothing about basic networking, and even less about Apple products.
You're a fucking moron, trollboi. Revel in your stupidity. It's all
you've got.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#136049

From	Marion <marion@facts.com>
Date	2025-07-25 21:37 +0000
Message-ID	<1060te3$214o$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to	#136044

On 25 Jul 2025 14:37:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :


> You know next to
> nothing about basic networking, and even less about Apple products.

My goal is to teach you MAGA religious zealots what Apple's strategy is.

You bought all that missing basic hardware functionality back, JR.
       *Apple (profits) loves you for that.*

You substituted money, for brains. (No wonder Apple profits so much!)

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