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  How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 22:11 -0400
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 22:23 -0400
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 22:49 -0400
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 23:35 -0400
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 23:46 -0400
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-24 20:59 -0700
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-25 17:24 +1300
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 00:29 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 00:41 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 01:28 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 07:57 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 01:31 -0700
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 01:31 -0700
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-24 21:00 -0700
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-25 14:08 +0000
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 22:30 -0400
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-10-26 09:18 +0100
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-26 06:51 -0400
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-10-26 14:18 +0100
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-26 09:36 -0400
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 10:34 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-10-26 21:22 +0100
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 19:36 -0400
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-26 12:50 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-26 13:25 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-26 14:05 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-26 15:24 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 21:33 -0400
                        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-26 18:48 -0700
                          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-27 18:11 +1300
                            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-27 14:39 +0000
                              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 00:12 -0400
                        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 22:53 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-26 11:15 -0700
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 20:13 -0400
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-26 13:47 +0000
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-26 23:00 +0100
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 00:02 -0400
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-28 18:32 +0100
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 15:57 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 21:01 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-28 22:19 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 23:00 -0400
                        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 03:01 -0400
                          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-29 14:14 -0400
                            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-29 11:57 -0700
                        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-29 12:03 +0100
                          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 11:24 -0400
                            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-29 21:05 +0100
                              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 16:31 -0400
                                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-29 21:20 -0400
                                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-29 18:45 -0700
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-27 18:34 +0000
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-27 12:01 -0700
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> - 2026-10-25 18:27 +0100
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 11:01 -0700
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 16:36 -0400
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 17:42 -0700
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2026-10-25 18:14 -0400
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 22:45 -0400
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 13:17 +0100
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-27 10:15 -0400
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 20:18 +0100
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-27 17:02 -0400
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 23:09 +0100
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-27 23:53 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-28 18:27 +0100
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 16:31 -0400
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-10-28 08:18 +0000
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 16:37 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-28 13:54 -0700
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 00:33 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-28 22:24 -0700
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-30 00:27 -0400
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-27 10:41 -0400
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 20:21 +0100
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-30 12:00 +1100

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#149827 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2026-10-26 9:18 a.m., Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
>> On 10/26/2026 11:51 AM, Paul wrote:
>> 
>>>> Isn't your suggestion also "absurdly complicated"? Nearly everybody has
>>>> installed WhatsApp (on the phone/tablet and PC), so why not use it to
>>>> send the text to yourself?
>>>
>>> Wouldn't there be some way to do that over Bluetooth ?
>>> A small text file shouldn't be too taxing at 75KB/sec.
>>> Usually computers have a Bluetooth Send and a Bluetooth Receive,
>>> and the latter one must be set up first.
>> There are many ways to transfer files between a smartphone and
>> a PC. I use an FTP server on the smartphone and the standard
>> Windows Explorer to drag&drop files between smartphone and PC.
>> 
>> But if you only want to transfer a short text snippet between
>> the smartphone and PC then it is to much overhead to store it in
>> a file and transfer the file. It is much simpler to use an
>> messenger like WhatsApp (even simpler than an email). And
>> you can also use WhatsApp to transfer a single picture or
>> a small data file.
> 
> That's so simple even grandma can do it!
> 
> Seriously though, Mac users are telling us that such things have been 
> simplified to a point that even total dummies can do it, and here you 
> have Windows and Linux users telling us that the simplicity is 
> meaningless because the way one would do it in the 1990s is sufficient. 
> Why are some users so resistant to technological progress of any kind?

These are all good ideas in that all of us want a simple method to bring
over the clipboard, bidirectionally, the six inches between Windows & iOS.

Everyone is trying to help, but convenience is only one of the necessary 
conditions when copying a clipboard bidirectionally between iOS & Windows.

         *Privacy is another required condition*

Rest assured I totally get why messengers like WhatsApp or cloud notes feel 
like the easiest path, but that's only if convenience is the only metric.

Anyone who knows me knows that privacy is an inviolable metric also.

If the privacy goal is zero third-party leakage, routing a clipboard
through any external server (even if/when encrypted) is a non-starter. 

Remember, we needed to do this with both privacy & with convenience:
 1. Copy the iOS clipboard
 2. Get that iOS clipboard to Windows
 3. And (after editing) bring it back to iOS

So my goal was to find the simplest method that didn't use the Internet.

It's not that simpler solutions don't exist, it's that those simpler 
solutions always seem to require trusting someone else's computer t do it.

The second thing likely very few Apple owners know is with Android, you 
rightclick to copy into the clipboard & rightclick to paste into the PC.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/pr8NPNKs/scrcpy33.jpg>

While that uses scrcpy, I'm pretty sure we can accomplish the same thing 
with Apple's iOS simply by using Vysor, so that is really the easiest way.
  <https://i.postimg.cc/k5gv0yw8/vysor34.jpg>

Two clicks. And you're done. Anything else is a kluge.

The real problem is never going to be interoperability of Windows with 
Android though, because Android has robust bidirectional file access, and, 
more importantly, Windows has bidirectional access to its DCIM folder.

It doesn't work that way with iOS, not without the iTunes abomination.
(Which has its own problems, not the least of which are security holes.)

Luckily, the solution proposed by Nick Charles works fine for most Windows 
owners because they likely have a password on their SMB guest/user account.

1. Copy the text into the iPad clipboard by longpressing & selecting copy
2. Open the iOS Files app 
3. Navigate to On My iPad if necessary (ensuring everything stays local)
4. Long-press in an empty white space in the folder and tap Paste
   This will automatically create a file named text.txt (... text2.txt).
   (Optional: Long-press the newly created file and tap Rename to change.)
5. On the PC, set up an SMB share (it must have a password!)
   mkdir C:\share_ios
   net share share_ios=C:\share_ios /grant:everyone,FULL
6. On the iPad, open the Files app
7. Tap the three dots (...) or the sidebar button in the top-left, 
8. Select Connect to Server
9. Enter the Windows PC local IP address (e.g., smb://192.168.x.x)
10. Tap Connect and log in using your Windows account username & password.
11. Select the share_ios shared folder
12. In the iOS Files app, long-press the text.txt file and tap Copy
13. Select the connected share_ios folder to save it
14. On the Windows PC, the file will show up in C:\share_ios

To send it back from Windows to the iPad:

1. Save the edited text file inside the Windows C:\share_ios folder
2. Open the Files on teh iPad 
3. Navigate to the connected share_ios server share
4. Longpress the updated text file
5. Tap Copy and place it into On My iPad to access and edit it locally.

Unfortunately, since I don't worry about my family stealing my computer 
data, I don't have a password on any of my Windows accounts, so SMB fails.

Still, these steps will work for me or for anyone who hasn't set up SMB.
to privately copy text from iOS to Windows (without using the Internet):
 0. On iOS, make sure you're using a local account only 
   (you never want the cloud kicking in, for privacy reasons)
   iOS:Settings > Apps > Notes > Default Account > On my iPad > checkmark
 1. Copy the text into the iPad clipboard by longpressing & selecting copy
 2. Open the iOS Files app 
 3. Navigate to On My iPad if necessary (ensuring everything stays local)
 4. Long-press in an empty white space in the folder and tap Paste. 
    This will automatically create a file named text.txt (... text2.txt).
    (Optional: Long-press the newly created file and tap Rename to change.)
 5. Open LocalSend on both the Windows PC and the iPad.
    Open the Windows firewall if necessary (only needed once)
    netsh advfirewall firewall add rule name="LocalSend" dir=in action=allow protocol=TCP localport=53317
    netsh advfirewall firewall add rule name="LocalSend UDP" dir=in action=allow protocol=UDP localport=53317
 6. Press Send on the iOS LocalSend
 7. Tap File inside LocalSend to open the iPad file picker
 8. Navigate to On My iPad > clpbrd, select the saved text file
 9. Tap the blue Open button in the top right corner 
10. Select the target Windows PC device tile inside LocalSend
11. Click Accept on the Windows LocalSend notification
12. On the PC LocalSend click Show in folder or click Open 

To send it back from Windows to the iPad:
 1. Save the edited text file on the Windows PC.
 2. Open LocalSend on both the Windows PC and the iPad.
 3. In LocalSend on Windows, click Send > File 
 4. Select the file from your PC storage.
 5. Select the target iPad device tile from the list of available devices.
 6. Accept the incoming file on the iPad (or use Quick Save settings)
 7. Open the Files app on the iPad and check the LocalSend folder 

If there is a simpler method with privacy (i.e., it can't use someone 
else's computer), let's hear it, so that everyone benefits from that.
-- 
Every person on Usenet adds tribal knowledge to the group & its archives.

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#149843 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On 10/26/2026 3:34 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:

> Rest assured I totally get why messengers like WhatsApp or cloud notes feel
> like the easiest path, but that's only if convenience is the only metric.
>
> It's not that simpler solutions don't exist, it's that those simpler
> solutions always seem to require trusting someone else's computer t do it.
You only have to trust the software on your own computer. The maker
of the OS can read any byte on the disk, copy screen content and
record any keystroke. Why do you trust Microsoft, Apple and Google,
but not Meta?

If you only transfer encrypted data, it doesn't matter what happens
outside your computer, you even can post it on usenet to transfer it
from one PC to an other. If you still worry about privacy, you should
maybe use a different way to encrypt your data.

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#149851 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
>> Rest assured I totally get why messengers like WhatsApp or cloud notes feel
>> like the easiest path, but that's only if convenience is the only metric.
>>
>> It's not that simpler solutions don't exist, it's that those simpler
>> solutions always seem to require trusting someone else's computer t do it.
> You only have to trust the software on your own computer. The maker
> of the OS can read any byte on the disk, copy screen content and
> record any keystroke. Why do you trust Microsoft, Apple and Google,
> but not Meta?
> 
> If you only transfer encrypted data, it doesn't matter what happens
> outside your computer, you even can post it on usenet to transfer it
> from one PC to an other. If you still worry about privacy, you should
> maybe use a different way to encrypt your data.

Hi Herbert,

You're right! I apologize. I was wrong. I made a mistake in omission.

Actually, I dug deeper since you objected, and I trust you, whereas for
many others, I wouldn't have bothered to dig deeper into objections.

In all my decades on Usenet, I've never disagreed with any logically
sensible defensible statement so I certainly will agree with you here.

In the beginning of a thread, I may have disagreed, out of ignorance,
perhaps, or lack of imagination, but if explained, I will be sensible.

If we trust the encryption (and normally, most of us do), then if it
remains encrypted (and only temporarily stored!) on someone else's
computer, that "should" be "good enough", as long as only my computer has
the key, but I don't use WhatsApp on Windows or iOS so I had to check.

Q: Does WhatsApp use encryption? 
A: Yes.

WhatsApp uses end-to-end encryption (E2EE) by design. The Signal Protocol 
implementation means message content is encrypted on the sender device and 
decrypted only on the recipient device. WhatsApp/Meta cannot read the
message payload itself.

But here's where the privacy calculus gets interesting:

1. Metadata is different. Even if content is E2EE, connection patterns, 
   timestamps, device fingerprints, and contact lists flow through Meta's 
   infrastructure. If our threat model includes pattern analysis, this 
   matters, but only if it matters (for our purpose, it likely does not).

2. Key storage. The recovery mechanisms and key rotation happen via Meta's 
   ecosystem. For most users this is fine but for high-stakes privacy 
   it's a distinction worth noting. Still, for us, it should be fine.

3. The "stored encrypted on someone else's computer" scenario still 
   requires trusting that provider's client-side encryption implementation 
   AND their operational security practices over time. Again, for us, 
   this should probably most likely be just fine (although see my 
   many mobile threads on how criminals get caught using their phone).

Luckily, the Files/LocalSend approach appeals to people who treat privacy
as an inviolable metric rather than something that encryption can solve.

But then, we use the TOR browser all the time, and that's encrypted.
So we do, for the most part, trust encryption when it's well designed.

The tradeoff is clear:
 a. Convenience: WhatsApp, iCloud Notes, any cloud solution
 b. Privacy: Files, LocalSend, SMB, scrcpy/Vysor over USB/WiFi

For daily clipboard text transfers between Windows & Android devices, 
I use the rightclick method, where I use scrcpy all day, every day.
  *Rightclick on Android to copy, control-V on Windows to paste*

Between Windows & Android, it's a shared clipboard (just two clicks).
 <https://i.postimg.cc/ZRCTyRx0/scrcpy35.jpg>

That's enabled by my adbconnect.bat script, which you helped me write years
ago, so that the console goes away, but which has these related commands:
   :: On phones with static IP addresses, change the next line
   set PHONE_IP=192.168.1.4
   :: set SCRCPY_OPTS=--keyboard=sdk --always-on-top
   :: For whatever reason, "--keyboard=sd" makes Termux not accept Ctrl+V paste
   :: set SCRCPY_OPTS=--keyboard=sdk 
   :: For whatever reason, "--legacy-paste" allows Termux to accept Ctrl+V paste
   :: Allows dual playback: scrcpy --audio-source=playback --audio-dup 
   :: set SCRCPY_OPTS=--legacy-paste
   set SCRCPY_OPTS=--legacy-paste --audio-source=playback --audio-dup

Given between Android and Windows the clipboard transfer (which we do a
hundred times a day) is a single mousetap (to get) and keyboard (to put), 
you can see how frustrated I was when I tried to do that with iOS:Windows.

My first attempt was to copy the iOS clipboard into a file, but that's when
I ran into the issue that the file *must* be in the iOS photo's folder, and
even then, Apple's MTP implementation is not bi-directional, so it sucks.
 This PC\Apple iPad\Internal Storage\202610_a
 Note: Apple uses non-changeable wacky crazy idiotic names for folders.

Both Files (which uses SMB) that Nick Charles suggested, and LocalSend
(which is what I ultimately used) are bidirectional and don't depend on
Apple's hugely limited one-way MTP implementation of the DCIM folder.

If I were to frequently casually copy the clipboard between iOS and
Windows, I'd set up Vysor, which I extensively tested in the past. 
  <https://i.postimg.cc/TYvqdxCT/vysor35.jpg> 
That said, I recognize most users won't go through the Vysor setup. 

But back to your point, especially as this thread, which I did not author,
is titled "the easiest way" (not the most-secure way), the barrier to entry
favors the messengers, which are private enough, due to inherent E2EE. 

The WhatsApp method might even work for actual files too, for all I know.
Thank you for hammering home the point, as I never disagree with logic.
-- 
Most people don't own the concept of logical thought processes, but I do.

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#149830 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On Mon, 10/26/2026 9:36 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2026-10-26 9:18 a.m., Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
>> On 10/26/2026 11:51 AM, Paul wrote:
>>
>>>> Isn't your suggestion also "absurdly complicated"? Nearly everybody has
>>>> installed WhatsApp (on the phone/tablet and PC), so why not use it to
>>>> send the text to yourself?
>>>
>>> Wouldn't there be some way to do that over Bluetooth ?
>>> A small text file shouldn't be too taxing at 75KB/sec.
>>> Usually computers have a Bluetooth Send and a Bluetooth Receive,
>>> and the latter one must be set up first.
>> There are many ways to transfer files between a smartphone and
>> a PC. I use an FTP server on the smartphone and the standard
>> Windows Explorer to drag&drop files between smartphone and PC.
>>
>> But if you only want to transfer a short text snippet between
>> the smartphone and PC then it is to much overhead to store it in
>> a file and transfer the file. It is much simpler to use an
>> messenger like WhatsApp (even simpler than an email). And
>> you can also use WhatsApp to transfer a single picture or
>> a small data file.
> 
> That's so simple even grandma can do it!
> 
> Seriously though, Mac users are telling us that such things have been simplified to a point that even total dummies can do it, and here you have Windows and Linux users telling us that the simplicity is meaningless because the way one would do it in the 1990s is sufficient. Why are some users so resistant to technological progress of any kind?
> 

 "How to send docs via bluetooth from / to iPad?"

 "How to send quickly docs via bluetooth from / to iPad instead via itunes etc?"

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3498523?sortBy=rank

It's a walled garden. OK. Chants to Father to drown out the
disturbing thought processes.

   Paul

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#149831 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On 2026-10-26 12:50 p.m., Paul wrote:
> On Mon, 10/26/2026 9:36 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2026-10-26 9:18 a.m., Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
>>> On 10/26/2026 11:51 AM, Paul wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Isn't your suggestion also "absurdly complicated"? Nearly everybody has
>>>>> installed WhatsApp (on the phone/tablet and PC), so why not use it to
>>>>> send the text to yourself?
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't there be some way to do that over Bluetooth ?
>>>> A small text file shouldn't be too taxing at 75KB/sec.
>>>> Usually computers have a Bluetooth Send and a Bluetooth Receive,
>>>> and the latter one must be set up first.
>>> There are many ways to transfer files between a smartphone and
>>> a PC. I use an FTP server on the smartphone and the standard
>>> Windows Explorer to drag&drop files between smartphone and PC.
>>>
>>> But if you only want to transfer a short text snippet between
>>> the smartphone and PC then it is to much overhead to store it in
>>> a file and transfer the file. It is much simpler to use an
>>> messenger like WhatsApp (even simpler than an email). And
>>> you can also use WhatsApp to transfer a single picture or
>>> a small data file.
>>
>> That's so simple even grandma can do it!
>>
>> Seriously though, Mac users are telling us that such things have been simplified to a point that even total dummies can do it, and here you have Windows and Linux users telling us that the simplicity is meaningless because the way one would do it in the 1990s is sufficient. Why are some users so resistant to technological progress of any kind?
>>
> 
>   "How to send docs via bluetooth from / to iPad?"
> 
>   "How to send quickly docs via bluetooth from / to iPad instead via itunes etc?"
> 
>      https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3498523?sortBy=rank
> 
> It's a walled garden. OK. Chants to Father to drown out the
> disturbing thought processes.

A walled garden, in theory, is not a bad thing. After all, you're not 
likely to get malware if every one of the programs you install on your 
computer comes from the App Store or publishers Apple has signed. Sure, 
it is limiting, especially if the software you like is too small to be 
noticed by Apple, but I recall that the signing process is very 
inexpensive for a developer, so there is no reason for them to remain on 
the outside.

-- 
CrudeSausage
MacBook Air M4 Sky Blue
iPhone 13
Friendly Apple zealot

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#149832 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On Mon, 10/26/2026 1:25 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

>> It's a walled garden. OK. Chants to Father to drown out the
>> disturbing thought processes.
> 
> A walled garden, in theory, is not a bad thing. After all, you're not likely to get malware if every one of the programs you install on your computer comes from the App Store or publishers Apple has signed. Sure, it is limiting, especially if the software you like is too small to be noticed by Apple, but I recall that the signing process is very inexpensive for a developer, so there is no reason for them to remain on the outside.
> 

The Bluetooth Send and Bluetooth Receive, are pretty crude and not automated.

The Bluetooth Receive can only be armed by the user.
The profile is not operational otherwise.

The Bluetooth Send is similarly crude, and is not
a fancy thing at all.

And it is exactly suited to sending one file.

You could use it in your house, between two machines.
For privacy, you could use .7z AES256 and compress
the file before transmission (gives you a password
based protection and reduces the file size).

*******

Let's discuss malware. Been using PCs for approximately
26 years. Had one incident, attack surface was a browser
where a commercial site top level web page had been
hacked and a redirect placed there. in other words, it
wasn't something I downloaded and executed. It was
simple web browsing. Might have been Firefox.
Machine had no AV. WinXP.

Had two incidents at work, on a MacII (we bought a batch
of those, a quarter million dollars worth, for the
department). Was easily removed by (John Norstad) Disinfectant.
Attack surface was a floppy diskette. Back in those days,
the pests were more of a test than a pest. They weren't
Sality. The student working for us, who brought the
malware to work, was... shall we say... not university
material. He came perilously close to getting punched
for what he did. Back in those days, you could easily
clean up Macs via Disinfectant.

Over all, I'd say that was a pretty good record, on both sides.
I don't think I've ever double-clicked an email attachment o.O .
A lot of staying safe, is the obvious stuff. I'm really surprised
actually, about some potential mechanisms that are seemingly
a dud for injection. Some people just like to click all the
buttons... enjoy.

   Paul

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#149838 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On 2026-10-26 2:05 p.m., Paul wrote:
> On Mon, 10/26/2026 1:25 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>>> It's a walled garden. OK. Chants to Father to drown out the
>>> disturbing thought processes.
>>
>> A walled garden, in theory, is not a bad thing. After all, you're not likely to get malware if every one of the programs you install on your computer comes from the App Store or publishers Apple has signed. Sure, it is limiting, especially if the software you like is too small to be noticed by Apple, but I recall that the signing process is very inexpensive for a developer, so there is no reason for them to remain on the outside.
>>
> 
> The Bluetooth Send and Bluetooth Receive, are pretty crude and not automated.
> 
> The Bluetooth Receive can only be armed by the user.
> The profile is not operational otherwise.
> 
> The Bluetooth Send is similarly crude, and is not
> a fancy thing at all.
> 
> And it is exactly suited to sending one file.
> 
> You could use it in your house, between two machines.
> For privacy, you could use .7z AES256 and compress
> the file before transmission (gives you a password
> based protection and reduces the file size).
> 
> *******
> 
> Let's discuss malware. Been using PCs for approximately
> 26 years. Had one incident, attack surface was a browser
> where a commercial site top level web page had been
> hacked and a redirect placed there. in other words, it
> wasn't something I downloaded and executed. It was
> simple web browsing. Might have been Firefox.
> Machine had no AV. WinXP.
> 
> Had two incidents at work, on a MacII (we bought a batch
> of those, a quarter million dollars worth, for the
> department). Was easily removed by (John Norstad) Disinfectant.
> Attack surface was a floppy diskette. Back in those days,
> the pests were more of a test than a pest. They weren't
> Sality. The student working for us, who brought the
> malware to work, was... shall we say... not university
> material. He came perilously close to getting punched
> for what he did. Back in those days, you could easily
> clean up Macs via Disinfectant.
> 
> Over all, I'd say that was a pretty good record, on both sides.
> I don't think I've ever double-clicked an email attachment o.O .
> A lot of staying safe, is the obvious stuff. I'm really surprised
> actually, about some potential mechanisms that are seemingly
> a dud for injection. Some people just like to click all the
> buttons... enjoy.

I've gotten an infection a time or two from a simple infection. It was 
part of my wanting to migrate to Linux for a long time. It's 
particularly annoying since I'm the type of guy who always keeps his 
systems up to date. Being in Linux would have been enough to keep me 
safe, but the experience always ends up disappointing me in one way or 
another.

-- 
CrudeSausage
MacBook Air M4 Sky Blue
iPhone 13
Friendly Apple zealot

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#149859 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

Paul wrote:
> Let's discuss malware.

Let's discuss iOS is the worst mobile OS in the world for security holes.

My point is security is a chain of events, only one of which is malware.

Apple's QA is arguably the worst in the entire industry, based on metrics
that we *know* to be true, such as Google Project Zero testing reports.

There's a reason the iPhone is the most exploited smartphone in history.
 <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>

Apple's QA is so inept that many exploits happen in multiple releases.
<https://blog.google/threat-analysis-group/state-backed-attackers-and-commercial-surveillance-vendors-repeatedly-use-the-same-exploits/>

Apple never advertises that their QA is atrociously inept to the point that
much of the iOS code has been proven to never have ever been tested.
<https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-very-deep-dive-into-ios-exploit.html>
   "Beer noted 'cases of code which seems to have never worked' and 
   'likely skipped QA or had little testing' before shipping."

<https://www.vice.com/en/article/google-project-zero-bugs-used-to-hack-iphones-and-android-phones/>
   "TAG noted that some iOS bugs were 'long-lived' and exploitable 
    across multiple OS generations, implying insufficient fuzzing 
    or regression testing."

<https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/08/the-many-possibilities-of-cve-2019-8646.html>
   Silvanovich stated that certain iMessage parsers lacked basic bounds 
   checks and appeared never to have been fuzz tested.

 <https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2020/09/jitsploitation-three.html>
  "Researchers noted that some vulnerable code paths were 'reachable only 
   through malformed inputs unlikely to be covered by standard QA.'"

The result of Apple never having even once sufficiently tested much of
their iOS code is that any iPhone NOT able to take the latest release is so
toxic that it should probably be thrown over the next bridge you drive
over. Think about that every time you drive over a bridge from now on.

Atrocious QA is a main reason iOS has 1-1/2 times the known key exploits.
 <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog> 

The fact that Apple has never tested huge chunks of its iOS code also
belies the fact that Apple's lack of modern update wasn't the only reason.
<https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-very-deep-dive-into-ios-exploit.html>

What makes things worse is Apple's promised written support is the worst in
the industry when you compare with two of the main Android OEM players.
 *Apple finally confirms how long it will support iPhones*
        *and it's less than Samsung and Google*
<https://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-software-support-commitment-3449135/>

It doesn't help that only Apple betrays the customer by never fully
supporting anything other than a single release stream in its history.
  <https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
<https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>
<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>

So, let's talk malware, which, admittedly, Android has more than iOS.
But malware is only one piece of the security landscape for an OS.

Overall, we lost everything by way of lack of functionality in iOS.
And yet, we didn't gain any security out of those severe restrictions.

The only one who won from iOS restrictions, was Apple profits.

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#149860 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On Oct 26, 2026 at 6:33 PM, Maria Sophia wrote in
11bov1e$1910$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com:
> Paul wrote:
>> Let's discuss malware.
> 
> Let's discuss iOS is the worst mobile OS in the world for security
> holes.

Not based on the evidence.

...


-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#149862 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On 2026-10-27 01:48:53 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:
> On Oct 26, 2026 at 6:33 PM, Maria Sophia wrote in
> 11bov1e$1910$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com:
>> Paul wrote:
>>> Let's discuss malware.
>> 
>> Let's discuss iOS is the worst mobile OS in the world for security
>> holes.
> 
> Not based on the evidence.
> 
> ...

It's already well established that evidence and facts are two more 
things that the brainless troll can't understand.

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#149869 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> On 2026-10-27 01:48:53 +0000, Brock McNuggets said:
>> On Oct 26, 2026 at 6:33 PM, Maria Sophia wrote in
>> 11bov1e$1910$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com:
>>> Paul wrote:
>>>> Let's discuss malware.
>>> 
>>> Let's discuss iOS is the worst mobile OS in the world for security
>>> holes.
>> 
>> Not based on the evidence.
>> 
>> ...
> 
> It's already well established that evidence and facts are two more 
> things that the brainless troll can't understand.

So true.   Facts and evidence also go against ITs narrative of “Walled
Garden” and “Apple can’t connect to the Real World”.  

This is why IT refuses to use the BUILT-IN networking software on iOS and
Windows.   IT is STILL using the excuse that “I don’t want to login to
Windows”.   IT does not have to.  IT can create a separate Windows account
- call it Network.  Give it an easy password, like ITs phone number.  
Whatever.  

Then use this account ONLY for the iOS/iPadOS Files App to login and
transfer files.  Done.  And BTW once connected to Windows, one can transfer
files in both directions.

The problem is that by doing this, IT will no longer be able to post this
stupid fucking question every 3 months.  “What is the easiest way to
transfer files from Windows to iOS without using the internet”.  

The easiest way is the way IT refuses to use.   Because “Walled Garden” is
more important to IT.

Ignorant Troll is indeed a DipshIT.  

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#149884 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

> This is behind a paywall, apparently, but it's probably rather detailed.
> 
> How metadata brought down David Petraeus
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0262407912630000

Interestingly, apparently, the failure mode was not content interception.

It was account-level metadata and provider cooperation. 
The content stayed put but the login didn't.

Petraeus used Canadian navy spy's email trick
https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/petraeus-used-canadian-navy-spy-s-email-trick-1.1172104

Petraeus and Broadwell attempted to conceal affair using Gmail drafts
https://www.theverge.com/2012/11/13/3642256/petraeus-broadwell-scandal-gmail-drafts

Webmail as Dead Drop
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/11/webmail_as_dead.html

Every time these bad guys get caught, it behooves us to figure out how.

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#149861 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

Maria Sophia wrote:
> There's a reason the iPhone is the most exploited smartphone in history.
>  <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>

The last people to know how atrocious Apple's QA is, are those who claim, 
sans a single fact, that iOS is 'safer' (how? magically?) than another OS.

It's not. Apple marketing says iOS is safer. 

But there's not a single security professional on the planet who does.
Just the media shills. But they just parrot Apple marketing spiels.

For example, by far, nobody has more key zero-day exploits than iOS does.

We've published the results from these scripts which, year after year, 
show an ungodly number of critical exploits of iOS as reported by CISA.

I ask anyone who disputes these facts to tell us what they got when
they ran this script which we published many times on Apple newsgroups.

  ###############################################################################
  ## kev.ps1
  ##  An Extensible cross-platform batch/powershell script to parse CISA KEV db
  ##  Analyzes the CISA Known Exploited Vulnerabilities (KEV) database 
  ##  to compare iOS and Android-related security threats.
  ##   a. Downloads lates KEV CSV or uses a local copy of the KEV CSV file
  ##   b. Filters out irrelevant entries (e.g., smart appliances, printers)
  ##   c. Uses keywords & vendor-product logic for platform-specific exploits
  ##   d. Identifies shared vulnerabilities affecting both ecosystems
  ##   e. Logs results to timestamped files in a clean ./logs directory
  ##   f. Outputs Apple iOS vs Android exploit summaries to console & log files
  ##  All logs are saved in the ./logs directory:
  ##   A. ios_matches_YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS.log
  ##   B. android_matches_YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS.log
  ##   C. shared_matches_YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS.log
  ##   D. kev_output_YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS.log (summary) 
  ##  Note the CISA KEV db lists only about 6% of all known vulnerabilities!
  ##   <medium.com/@yotamperkal/cisa-kev-a-balanced-perspective-ff3856e69ba9>
  ##  That's because the KEV db only contains exploits meeting these criteria:
  ##   1. The exploit has a valid CVE ID.
  ##   2. There is reliable evidence of active exploitation.
  ##   3. A clear remediation action is already available to the general public.
  ###############################################################################
  ## Windows Usage: C:\> kev.bat
  ## Where kev.bat is the following three lines of code:
  ##  set "PS_SCRIPT=kev.ps1" REM iOS vs Android known patched exploits
  ##  powershell -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -File "%~dp0%PS_SCRIPT%"
  ##  pause
  ## Linux/macOS Usage: $ pwsh ./kev.ps1
  ##  Requires PowerShell Core (pwsh) <https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell>
  ##  Make sure execution policy allows script execution:
  ##  $ pwsh -Command "Set-ExecutionPolicy -Scope Process -ExecutionPolicy Bypass"
  ###############################################################################
  ## Version 1.0 20250829 (41L)
  ##  Extensible Windows batch/powershell script to parse csv/json CISA KEV db
  ##  Uses powershell to parse csv/json CISA database for iOS vs Android
  ##  Added comment discipline rules for ASCII-only and no oxford comma
  ##  CSV downloaded from GitHub mirror of CISA KEV database
  ##  Keyword logic uses lowercase match on vendor, product, and vuln name
  ##  Matching uses wildcard logic with simple substring detection
  ##  Results printed to console with Write-Host
  ##  Script can be extended to log output or refine keyword logic
  ## Verson 1.1 20250929 (56L)
  ##  Adds time-stamped output file to current directory
  ##  Uses Get-Date with custom format for filename
  ##  Output file includes iOS and Android known exploit counts
  ##  Output file UTF8 encoding for platform/editor compatibility
  ## Version 1.2 20250929 (68L)
  ##  Expands keyword logic for iOS and Android ecosystems
  ##  Adds ipad, watchos, macos, pixel, samsung, qualcomm, mediatek
  ##  Improves platform distinction across shared components like WebKit
  ##  Android common vendors & chipsets: pixel, samsung, qualcomm, mediatek 
  ##  iOS platforms: ipad, ipados, watchos, macos
  ##  Used Join-Path to make filespecs usable on Windows/Linux/macOS
  ## Version 1.3 20250929 (87L)
  ##  Added an output log to a separate file of each match with its source line 
  ##  Modified filespecs to enable macOS/Linux PowerCore portability
  ## Version 1.4 20250929 (97L)
  ##  Included CVE ID in logs (Adds traceability & audit value)
  ##  Added platform detection (Join-Path & $PWD)
  ##  Add toggle for local file (avoid unnecessary d/l when testing)
  ## Version 1.5 20250929 (108L)
  ##  Add exclusion filtering logic (e.g., samsung TVs)
  ##  Exclusion filtering removes Apple smart home devices.
  ## Version 1.6 20250929 (130L)
  ##  Added shared-match detection to avoid double counting overlapping attack
  ##   surfaces in platform-specific summaries
  ## Version 1.7 20250929 (141L)
  ##  Added vendor-product dictionary-style mapping to excluse false positives
  ##   like "Samsung tv" or "refrigerator" or "Apple tv" or "homepod"
  ## Version 1.8 20250929 (148L)
  ##  Refined keyword logic for deeper iOS & Android exploit detection
  ##   around shared components like WebKit & cryptographic modules
  ##  Apple includes subsystems like secure enclave, coremedia & launchd
  ##  Android includes cryptographic modules & shared components like 
  ##   keymaster, webkit & play services.
  ## Version 1.9 20250929 (163L)
  ##  Moved all log files into ./logs directory to reduce clutter
  ##  Added usage instructions for macOS/Linux (pwsh)
  ## Version 2.0 20250929 (207L)
  ##  Added toggle to include/exclude macOS from iOS counts
  ##  Fixed platform detection (Join-Path & $PWD) console output
  ## Version 2.1 20250929 (212L)
  ##  Added output of the1 PowerShell version (in case of mismatches)
  ## Version 2.2 20250930 (219L)
  ##  Added date in the console output
  ## Version 2.3 20250930 (228L)
  ##  Removed false positives from desktop and server-side CVEs
  ##  Added 'chromium' & 'mojo' to iOS & Android keyword lists
  ##  Improved detection of shared browser & sandbox escape exploits
  ##  Added exclusion for Fortinet, Cisco, Oracle & Adobe using keywords of
  ##   fortinet, fortios, fortiproxy, cisco, oracle, adobe, jenkins, mozilla, 
  ##   nagios, redis, qnap, crushftp
  ## Version 2.4 20250930 (231L)
  ##  Added the script version to the console output for auditing purposes
  ###############################################################################
  # Define script version
  $scriptVersion = "kev.ps1 version 2.4 20250930"
  # Platform detection (v2.3)
  $platform = $PSVersionTable.PSEdition
  $version = $PSVersionTable.PSVersion
  if ($platform -eq "Desktop") {
      Write-Host "Running on platform: Windows PowerShell"
  } elseif ($platform -eq "Core") {
      if ($IsWindows) {
          Write-Host "Running on platform: Windows (pwsh)"
      } elseif ($IsLinux) {
          Write-Host "Running on platform: Linux (pwsh)"
      } elseif ($IsMacOS) {
          Write-Host "Running on platform: macOS (pwsh)"
      } else {
          Write-Host "Running on platform: Unknown Core edition"
      }
  } else {
      Write-Host "Running on platform: Unknown"
  }
  Write-Host "PowerShell version: $version"
  # Download the KEV CSV from GitHub
    $useLocalFile = $false  # Set to $true for testing of existing downloads
    $useLocalFile = $true  # Set to $false to force download
    $includeMacOS = $true  # Set to $false to exclude macOS in iOS counts
    $includeMacOS = $false  # Set to $true to include macOS in iOS counts
  if ($useLocalFile) {
      $csvPath = Join-Path -Path $PWD -ChildPath "kev.csv"
      Write-Host "Using local file: $csvPath"
  } else {
      $csvUrl = "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cisagov/kev-data/develop/known_exploited_vulnerabilities.csv"
      $csvPath = Join-Path -Path $PWD -ChildPath "kev.csv"
      Invoke-WebRequest -Uri $csvUrl -OutFile $csvPath
      Write-Host "Downloaded fresh file: $csvPath"
  }
  # Define keyword logic for iOS and Android
  # iOS includes Apple platforms and WebKit-based browsers
  $iosKeywords = @(
      "apple", "ios", "ipados", "watchos", "webkit", "safari",
      "secure enclave", "coregraphics", "coremedia", "corefoundation",
      "springboard", "launchd", "sandbox", "chromium", "mojo"
  )
  if ($includeMacOS) {
      $iosKeywords += "macos"
  }
  # Android includes Google platforms and common Android vendors
  $androidKeywords = @(
      "android", "google", "pixel", "samsung", "qualcomm", "mediatek",
      "play services", "keymaster", "keystore", "secure element", "omapi",
      "webkit", "chromium", "mojo"
  )
  # Initialize counters for each platform
  $iosCount = 0
  $androidCount = 0
  $timestamp = Get-Date -Format "yyyyMMdd_HHmmss"
  $logDir = Join-Path -Path "." -ChildPath "logs"
  if (-not (Test-Path $logDir)) {
      New-Item -ItemType Directory -Path $logDir | Out-Null
  }
  $iosLogPath = Join-Path -Path $logDir -ChildPath "ios_matches_$timestamp.log"
  $androidLogPath = Join-Path -Path $logDir -ChildPath "android_matches_$timestamp.log"
  $sharedLogPath = Join-Path -Path $logDir -ChildPath "shared_matches_$timestamp.log"
  $outputFile = Join-Path -Path $logDir -ChildPath "kev_output_$timestamp.log"
  # Parse KEV CSV and count keyword matches
  $excludeKeywords = @(
      "refrigerator", "tv", "washer", "dryer", "smart appliance", "iot", "industrial", "printer",
      "apple tv", "homepod", "airtag", "fortinet", "fortios", "fortiproxy", "cisco",
      "oracle", "adobe", "jenkins", "mozilla", "nagios", "redis", "qnap", "crushftp"
  )
  $vendorProductMap = @{
      "samsung"   = @("galaxy", "android", "mobile", "tablet")
      "qualcomm"  = @("snapdragon", "modem", "chipset")
      "apple"     = @("iphone", "ipad", "ios", "watchos", "macbook")
  }
  if ($includeMacOS) {
      $vendorProductMap["apple"] += "macos"
  }
  Import-Csv $csvPath | ForEach-Object {
      $text = ($_.vendorProject + " " + $_.product + " " + $_.vulnerabilityName).ToLower()
      $vendor = $_.vendorProject.ToLower()
      $product = $_.product.ToLower()
      # Skip irrelevant matches
      if ($excludeKeywords | Where-Object { $text -like "*$_*" }) {
          return
      }
      # Skip mismatched vendor-product combos
      if ($vendorProductMap.ContainsKey($vendor)) {
          $validProducts = $vendorProductMap[$vendor]
          if (-not ($validProducts | Where-Object { $product -like "*$_*" })) {
              return
          }
      }
      $logEntry = "$($_.cveID): $text"
  $iosMatch = $iosKeywords | Where-Object { $text -like "*$_*" }
  $androidMatch = $androidKeywords | Where-Object { $text -like "*$_*" }
  if ($iosMatch -and $androidMatch) {
      $iosCount++
      $androidCount++
      Add-Content -Path $iosLogPath -Value "$logEntry`n"
      Add-Content -Path $androidLogPath -Value "$logEntry`n"
      Add-Content -Path $sharedLogPath -Value "$logEntry`n"
  } elseif ($iosMatch) {
      $iosCount++
      Add-Content -Path $iosLogPath -Value "$logEntry`n"
  } elseif ($androidMatch) {
      $androidCount++
      Add-Content -Path $androidLogPath -Value "$logEntry`n"
  }
  }
  # Output results to console
  Write-Host "KEV vulnerability summary ($scriptVersion) for: $(Get-Date -Format 'yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss')"
  Write-Host "Estimated Apple-iOS-related exploits: $iosCount"
  Write-Host "Estimated Android-related exploits: $androidCount"
  if (Test-Path $sharedLogPath) {
      $sharedCount = (Get-Content $sharedLogPath | Measure-Object).Count
      Write-Host "Estimated shared exploits: $sharedCount"
      Add-Content -Path $sharedLogPath -Value "Shared iOS/Android vulnerabilities:`n"
      Add-Content -Path $sharedLogPath -Value "`nTotal shared matches: $sharedCount"
  } else {
      Write-Host "Estimated shared exploits: 0"
  }
  # Create time-stamped output file in current directory
  # $outputFile = "kev_output_$timestamp.log"
  # Allow for macOS/Linux PowerShell Core portability (filespec syntax)
  # Write results to file
  @(
      "KEV vulnerability summary $timestamp",
      "Estimated Apple-iOS-related exploits: $iosCount",
      "Estimated Android-related exploits: $androidCount"
  ) | Out-File -FilePath $outputFile -Encoding UTF8
  # Append a summary line to each match log (v1.4)
  Add-Content -Path $iosLogPath -Value "`nTotal iOS matches: $iosCount"
  Add-Content -Path $androidLogPath -Value "`nTotal Android matches: $androidCount"
  ###############################################################################
  ## end of kev.ps1
  ###############################################################################

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#149833 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On Oct 26, 2026 at 10:25 AM, CrudeSausage wrote in
6adf8d0c$0$19$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> On 2026-10-26 12:50 p.m., Paul wrote:
>> On Mon, 10/26/2026 9:36 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
<snip>
>>
>> "How to send docs via bluetooth from / to iPad?"
>>
>> "How to send quickly docs via bluetooth from / to iPad instead via
>> itunes etc?"
>>
>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3498523?sortBy=rank
>>
>> It's a walled garden. OK. Chants to Father to drown out the
>> disturbing thought processes.
> 
> A walled garden, in theory, is not a bad thing. After all, you're not
> likely to get malware if every one of the programs you install on your
> computer comes from the App Store or publishers Apple has signed.
> Sure, it is limiting, especially if the software you like is too small
> to be noticed by Apple, but I recall that the signing process is very
> inexpensive for a developer, so there is no reason for them to remain
> on the outside.

I think $99 / year.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#149853 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

CrudeSausage wrote:
>>      https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3498523?sortBy=rank
>> 
>> It's a walled garden. OK. Chants to Father to drown out the
>> disturbing thought processes.
> 
> A walled garden, in theory, is not a bad thing. After all, you're not 
> likely to get malware if every one of the programs you install on your 
> computer comes from the App Store or publishers Apple has signed. Sure, 
> it is limiting, especially if the software you like is too small to be 
> noticed by Apple, but I recall that the signing process is very 
> inexpensive for a developer, so there is no reason for them to remain on 
> the outside.

This thread is supposed to be about interoperability between Windows & iOS.

But when someone says that owning an iPad which is brain dead in terms of
functionality is "good for you", I have to make the point that it's not
                       *for your safety*

The reason iOS can't do what every other OS does is not for your safety. 
                    *it's for Apple's profits*

There isn't a single reputable security professional on the planet who
would ever say iOS is "safer" than any other operating system, and, in
fact, in many metrics, iOS is far worse (but it does have less malware).

I'm aware that Apple marketing screams otherwise, and that media shills
simply parrot whatever Apple marketing tells them to parrot, but the fact
remains you lost all that functionality, and gained zero safety for it.

The only gain is iOS being restricted is to give Apple greater profits.

With respect to the topic at hand, iOS is hugely restrictive in terms of
being able to bidirectionally transfer files between iOS & Windows.

But it can be done.
This thread shows how.
-- 
To be fair, Google is more and more following Apple's restrictive lead.

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#149826 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> wrote:
> On 10/26/2026 3:30 AM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>> Nick Charles wrote:
>>> Oh look.  DipshIT is AGAIN jumping thru hoops to do something VERY simple. 
>>> 
>>> Use the fucking  Files app on iOS you dumbass.   Open the files app.   Long
>>> press anywhere, select Paste.  A new text file will be created with your
>>> pasted text from the clipboard.   AGAIN using the files app, connect to
>>> your Windows computer over the Wi-Fi connection.   You DO have a drive
>>> shared on your Windows computer, right?   AGAIN using the Files app,
>>> copy/paste your text file to Windows.
>>> 
>>> Done.    God DAMN, you are stupid.  
>>> 
>>> How long DOES it take you to dream up these absurdly complicated ways to do
>>> easy things?   All in your never ending, life-long goal of �Making Apple
>>> Look Bad�.
> Isn't your suggestion also "absurdly complicated"? Nearly everybody has
> installed WhatsApp (on the phone/tablet and PC), so why not use it to
> send the text to yourself?

Only if you think Standard Computer Networking is “absurdly complicated”.  
It is not.   It is the entire reason for a LAN.  Local Area Networking.  

No, everyone does NOT have WhatsApp installed.   But, everyone DOES have
Standard Computer Networking ALREADY installed on every computer they own. 
 Just use it!

BTW, using WhatsApp was already ruled out because the OP wanted a LOCAL way
of doing the transfer.  If you are going to use WhatsApp, why not just
email it to yourself?  Or install Microsoft OneNote on the iPad.  Anything
you type into OneNote on the iPad automatically appears in OneNote on
Windows.  

The internet provides many ways to do this.  On your own local Wi-Fi LAN,
just use standard networking.  All computers can do this.  

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#149849 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On 2026-10-26 14:47, Nick Charles wrote:
> Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> wrote:
>> On 10/26/2026 3:30 AM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>> Nick Charles wrote:
>>>> Oh look.  DipshIT is AGAIN jumping thru hoops to do something VERY simple.
>>>>
>>>> Use the fucking  Files app on iOS you dumbass.   Open the files app.   Long
>>>> press anywhere, select Paste.  A new text file will be created with your
>>>> pasted text from the clipboard.   AGAIN using the files app, connect to
>>>> your Windows computer over the Wi-Fi connection.   You DO have a drive
>>>> shared on your Windows computer, right?   AGAIN using the Files app,
>>>> copy/paste your text file to Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Done.    God DAMN, you are stupid.
>>>>
>>>> How long DOES it take you to dream up these absurdly complicated ways to do
>>>> easy things?   All in your never ending, life-long goal of �Making Apple
>>>> Look Bad�.
>> Isn't your suggestion also "absurdly complicated"? Nearly everybody has
>> installed WhatsApp (on the phone/tablet and PC), so why not use it to
>> send the text to yourself?
> 
> Only if you think Standard Computer Networking is “absurdly complicated”.
> It is not.   It is the entire reason for a LAN.  Local Area Networking.
> 
> No, everyone does NOT have WhatsApp installed.   But, everyone DOES have
> Standard Computer Networking ALREADY installed on every computer they own.
>   Just use it!
> 
> BTW, using WhatsApp was already ruled out because the OP wanted a LOCAL way
> of doing the transfer.  If you are going to use WhatsApp, why not just
> email it to yourself?  Or install Microsoft OneNote on the iPad.  Anything
> you type into OneNote on the iPad automatically appears in OneNote on
> Windows.

Write an email, but do not send it. Keep it in drafts. Can be opened in 
any machine that shares that imap account (doesn't have to be google, 
and it can even be local only if you set up the server).


> 
> The internet provides many ways to do this.  On your own local Wi-Fi LAN,
> just use standard networking.  All computers can do this.
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#149883 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

Carlos E.R. wrote:
> Write an email, but do not send it. Keep it in drafts. Can be opened in 
> any machine that shares that imap account (doesn't have to be google, 
> and it can even be local only if you set up the server).

When the news comes out that the head of the CIA is caught, then it's
rather interesting *how* he got caught, in this case, using draft emails.

FBI email probe uncovers CIA director's affair with biographer
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/fbi-email-probe-uncovers-cia-directors-affair-with-biographer/
  "The FBI became aware of the relationship between Petraeus and Broadwell 
   after monitoring Petraeus� emails, following an alert that Broadwell 
   may have accessed his personal account, said two U.S. officials."

This is behind a paywall, apparently, but it's probably rather detailed.

How metadata brought down David Petraeus
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0262407912630000

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#149893 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On 2026-10-28 05:02, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> Write an email, but do not send it. Keep it in drafts. Can be opened in
>> any machine that shares that imap account (doesn't have to be google,
>> and it can even be local only if you set up the server).
> 
> When the news comes out that the head of the CIA is caught, then it's
> rather interesting *how* he got caught, in this case, using draft emails.

Yes, I know. But are you a drug lord, so that the CIA is interested in 
you? :-D

My ISP is not after me, they will not read my drafts. Not unless the a 
court orders them to.


And then, I have my own IMAP server inside my LAN, which I can use for 
this and nobody will see, unless they break in my house.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#149897 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

Carlos E.R. wrote:
> But are you a drug lord, so that the CIA is interested in you?

Good point! I used to have top-secret clearance (which is now called
TS/SCI), but that was long ago when I worked in a building with heavy
curtains on all the windows at Fort Meade on "stuff" (while they were
building their new secure facility that had no windows at all in it).

But if you've ever gone though their interviews (and I have, although it
was in the days before social media was prevalent) you'd be amazed at what
they ask and the money they spent interviewing everyone who knows you.

I have to openly admit, while I've found a dead body while hiking (so I
was, briefly, the first suspect by LE as the RP), I'm sure they "checked me
out" thoroughly (and even demanded my DNA, which I refused and they told me
they'd be back with a subpoena within days, which they never came back
with, as there was nothing connecting me to the dead person other than the
fact I hiked all over the backcountry and that body happened to be there).

So I'm clean with the CIA/FBI/NSA, etc.. For now. I think.... 

BTW, you do things "the right way" not because you are being chased by the
feds. You do interoperability the right way because it's the right way.

For example, my data pins in my USB part are bad so for me, the right way
is over Wi-Fi, where WebDav servers do a great job mounting Android as a
drive on Windows, which, unfortunately, iOS is too brain dead to do.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/QtbR1GY0/webdav13.jpg>

Or, just as good, the "right way" is to use adbcopy.bat to copy single
files over back & forth bidirectionally between Android & the desktop.

But always remember that Apple designed iOS to be basically non functional
when it comes to working in the real world, and they're not stupid to do
that as they make a LOT of money forcing people to buy only Apple stuff.

If you're in the Apple ecosystem, things happen to work a little bit.
But the instant you leave the Apple ecosystem for the real world, almost
nothing works when you are trying to get Apple to work with non_Apple
stuff.

Anyway, the "right way" with privacy for people might be the way Herbert
suggested (which is fine, as long as we trust the encryption) of using
something like WhatsApp (or any similar draft-saving messenger tool).

Or, the right way for some might be the way Nick Charles kindly suggested,
using Files on iOS and SMB on Windows, which works for most people.

In decades of being on Usenet I've never disagreed with a working solution,
where the right way for me, since I don't have passwords on any machine but
iOS, simply because Apple requires you to create a mothership account if
you want to load anything... 

Which by the way, is one reason Apple products are the LEAST PRIVATE in the
industry, because nobody but Apple tracks everything you do (which is
saying a lot when compared to Google!) even to the point of inserting
essentially your unique account information into every IPA you install.

Given Apple products are the WORST in the industry for security, the "right
way" of doing things is to avoid the way Apple suggests, which is iTunes.

Luckily, I must repeat, for MOST PEOPLE, the right way will be the Files
metehod with SMB that Nick Charles kindly outlined, while, for me, the
right way will be to use Local Send although I acknowledge with encryption,
a ton of other options arise (but I don't consider that the right way).

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