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| Started by | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| First post | 2026-10-08 23:23 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-10-22 02:02 +0000 |
| Articles | 9 on this page of 169 — 12 participants |
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Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-08 23:23 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 23:43 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:35 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 00:09 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-12 15:58 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-12 19:23 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 19:37 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-12 16:47 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 19:58 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-12 18:33 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-13 07:48 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 14:24 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-12 20:35 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 14:21 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-13 11:25 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 16:22 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-13 14:32 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 10:50 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-14 11:52 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 13:13 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-14 10:26 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 13:37 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-14 10:44 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 14:23 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-15 10:17 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-15 14:20 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-13 17:09 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 17:13 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-13 14:34 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 10:51 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-13 19:38 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 11:57 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-14 16:53 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-15 00:46 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-14 21:02 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 21:29 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 18:43 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 22:13 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 20:10 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-15 01:59 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 16:54 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-08 16:46 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple's OS IS in fact Unix (was: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix) Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-09 00:56 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-09 01:06 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-08 19:28 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-09 08:25 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-10-09 14:40 +0200
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-09 09:09 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Nick Charles <nunya@none.none> - 2026-10-09 14:41 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-09 11:00 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-10 20:21 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-10 17:11 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 00:36 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-10 20:17 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-10 17:13 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-10 20:38 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 15:12 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:29 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 22:09 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-12 15:45 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-09 09:10 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Nick Charles <nunya@none.none> - 2026-10-09 14:41 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-09 11:02 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-09 09:11 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 14:32 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-09 17:13 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 18:36 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 19:14 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-09 12:48 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-09 17:14 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 01:36 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 21:40 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-10 07:34 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 15:24 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-11 21:16 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 21:23 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-11 21:32 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 04:10 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-09 19:06 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-10 07:38 -0400
A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-10 12:42 -0700
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-10 20:37 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-10 18:34 -0700
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-10 21:42 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 15:37 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-11 13:40 -0700
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 16:55 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-12 12:06 -0700
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 15:33 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-12 12:54 -0700
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 16:19 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-12 13:49 -0700
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-13 00:47 +0000
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-11 07:41 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-11 13:44 -0700
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 16:57 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 04:23 +0000
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 00:29 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-12 07:07 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 07:11 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-12 07:51 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:54 +0000
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-12 12:07 -0700
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-11 21:25 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-11 21:12 -0400
Re: A diversion into iOS vs Android (was Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-12 12:09 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-10 12:17 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-10 12:43 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-11 07:49 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-11 13:45 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-10 07:29 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 20:24 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-10 20:40 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-10 18:35 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2026-10-09 18:36 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-10 12:13 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 20:21 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-10 20:36 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 03:57 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-10 01:08 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-09 22:27 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-10 20:14 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 17:44 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-10 20:16 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-10 21:32 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-10 23:03 +0000
Re: THE Reason Why Apple MacOS IS Unix (was: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix) Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-11 00:18 +0000
Re: THE Reason Why Apple MacOS IS Unix (was: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-11 00:41 +0000
Re: THE Reason Why Apple MacOS IS Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-10 18:38 -0700
Re: THE Reason Why Apple MacOS IS Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 15:13 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:34 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 22:12 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-11 21:27 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-12 12:10 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-10 18:37 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 15:06 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:40 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 23:12 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 19:26 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 00:12 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-11 20:23 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 04:58 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 03:02 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 00:32 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-12 12:59 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 16:21 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-12 13:50 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 16:56 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-13 00:35 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-10 18:35 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-20 08:04 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-20 08:48 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-10-20 18:06 +0200
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-20 23:19 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-20 16:44 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-20 19:49 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-21 00:51 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-21 05:42 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-21 00:42 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-21 06:23 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-10-21 12:46 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-21 16:49 -0400
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-21 22:56 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-21 16:28 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-22 00:00 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-21 17:07 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-22 02:03 +0000
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-21 19:47 -0700
Re: Another Reason Why Apple Is Not Unix Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-22 02:02 +0000
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-10-21 12:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <11bb4po$8d36$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #149660 |
On 2026-10-20 22:42, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 00:51:20 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:
>
>> On Oct 20, 2026 at 7:19:35 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro"
>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Source code here <https://github.com/libimobiledevice/ifuse>
>>> indicates it gives only a limited view of your device, unless it’s
>>> been jailbroken. Seems like Apple doesn’t actually natively support
>>> any kind of FUSE API, either.
>>
>> Fortunately, it is not necessary to jump thru these hoops to move
>> photos from an iPhone to a Mac. Because Apple UNIX (macOS, iOS and
>> iPadOS) does all of this automatically.
>
> But your so-called “UNIX” doesn’t seem to provide basic Unix-type
> utilities like tar and sha256sum, does it?
"user@Mac ~ % man tar
Unknown locale, assuming C
...
TAR(1) General Commands Manual TAR(1)
NAME
tar - manipulate tape archives"
"
...
MD5(1) General Commands Manual MD5(1)
NAME
md5, sha1, sha224, sha256, sha384, sha512, md5sum, sha1sum,
sha224sum, sha256sum, sha384sum, sha512sum - calculate a message-digest
fingerprint (checksum) for a file"
The fact that the iPhone is not intended to be used with a command lines
is irrelevant.
>
>> Any photo you take with your
>> iPhone/iPad will be on all your other iCloud devices in seconds.
>
> But I don’t want my private stuff finding its way onto some faceless
> corporate cloud under the jurisdiction of some foreign nation
> currently in thrall to a potentially hostile regime.
iCloud Drive files are completely (and end-to-end) encrypted with keys
not available to Apple.
As is almost everything with Advanced Data Protection:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651>
>
>> Plus there is the included Files app, where you can connect any
>> iPhone/iPad using SMB networking to a Windows SMB server or a Mac
>> SMB server or a Linux SMB server by entering the IP address of the
>> server on your Wi-Fi network.
>
> I was using USB to do the file transfers. USB 3 does transfers at
> multi-gigabit/second rates. How fast is your wi-fi?
And how often is that really important?
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| Date | 2026-10-21 16:49 -0400 |
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On 2026-10-21 3:46 p.m., Alan wrote: > On 2026-10-20 22:42, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 00:51:20 +0000, Nick Charles wrote: >> >>> On Oct 20, 2026 at 7:19:35 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" >>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Source code here <https://github.com/libimobiledevice/ifuse> >>>> indicates it gives only a limited view of your device, unless it’s >>>> been jailbroken. Seems like Apple doesn’t actually natively support >>>> any kind of FUSE API, either. >>> >>> Fortunately, it is not necessary to jump thru these hoops to move >>> photos from an iPhone to a Mac. Because Apple UNIX (macOS, iOS and >>> iPadOS) does all of this automatically. >> >> But your so-called “UNIX” doesn’t seem to provide basic Unix-type >> utilities like tar and sha256sum, does it? > > "user@Mac ~ % man tar > Unknown locale, assuming C > > ... > > TAR(1) General Commands Manual TAR(1) > > NAME > tar - manipulate tape archives" > > " > > ... > > MD5(1) General Commands Manual MD5(1) > > NAME > md5, sha1, sha224, sha256, sha384, sha512, md5sum, sha1sum, > sha224sum, sha256sum, sha384sum, sha512sum - calculate a message-digest > fingerprint (checksum) for a file" > > The fact that the iPhone is not intended to be used with a command lines > is irrelevant. > > > >> >>> Any photo you take with your >>> iPhone/iPad will be on all your other iCloud devices in seconds. >> >> But I don’t want my private stuff finding its way onto some faceless >> corporate cloud under the jurisdiction of some foreign nation >> currently in thrall to a potentially hostile regime. > > iCloud Drive files are completely (and end-to-end) encrypted with keys > not available to Apple. > > As is almost everything with Advanced Data Protection: > > <https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651> This is good to know. I guess I never really looked into it. This will be useful if I decide to move my content from its current server to iCloud for convenience. -- CrudeSausage MacBook Air M4 Sky Blue iPhone 13 Friendly Apple zealot
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| From | Nick Charles <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 22:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <BqidnXP7s_Km3kT3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #149660 |
Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 00:51:20 +0000, Nick Charles wrote: > >> On Oct 20, 2026 at 7:19:35 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" >> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> >>> Source code here <https://github.com/libimobiledevice/ifuse> >>> indicates it gives only a limited view of your device, unless it’s >>> been jailbroken. Seems like Apple doesn’t actually natively support >>> any kind of FUSE API, either. >> >> Fortunately, it is not necessary to jump thru these hoops to move >> photos from an iPhone to a Mac. Because Apple UNIX (macOS, iOS and >> iPadOS) does all of this automatically. > > But your so-called “UNIX” doesn’t seem to provide basic Unix-type > utilities like tar and sha256sum, does it? Don’t you EVER get tired of being wrong? >> Any photo you take with your >> iPhone/iPad will be on all your other iCloud devices in seconds. > > But I don’t want my private stuff finding its way onto some faceless > corporate cloud under the jurisdiction of some foreign nation > currently in thrall to a potentially hostile regime. Boo hoo. Has nothing to do with the functionality being there. >> Plus there is the included Files app, where you can connect any >> iPhone/iPad using SMB networking to a Windows SMB server or a Mac >> SMB server or a Linux SMB server by entering the IP address of the >> server on your Wi-Fi network. > > I was using USB to do the file transfers. USB 3 does transfers at > multi-gigabit/second rates. How fast is your wi-fi? Fast enough that I don’t have time to worry about it. Like I said, the transfer happens in seconds. Without having to plug in cables. So I can do it the hard way or the easy way. I choose the easy way. You can do it the hard way. Everyone is happy.
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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 16:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1792625288.C270A0B6@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #149712 |
On Oct 21, 2026 at 3:56 PM, Nick Charles wrote in BqidnXP7s_Km3kT3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@supernews.com: > Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 00:51:20 +0000, Nick Charles wrote: >> >>> On Oct 20, 2026 at 7:19:35 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" >>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>> <snip 4 lines> >>> >>> Fortunately, it is not necessary to jump thru these hoops to move >>> photos from an iPhone to a Mac. Because Apple UNIX (macOS, iOS and >>> iPadOS) does all of this automatically. >> >> But your so-called "UNIX" doesn't seem to provide basic Unix-type >> utilities like tar and sha256sum, does it? > > Don't you EVER get tired of being wrong? As long as he gets attention I do not think he cares. -- It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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| From | Nick Charles <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2026-10-22 00:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <In2dndRurraaz0T3nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #149713 |
Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 21, 2026 at 3:56 PM, Nick Charles wrote in > BqidnXP7s_Km3kT3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@supernews.com: >> Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 00:51:20 +0000, Nick Charles wrote: >>> >>>> On Oct 20, 2026 at 7:19:35 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" >>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>>> > <snip 4 lines> >>>> >>>> Fortunately, it is not necessary to jump thru these hoops to move >>>> photos from an iPhone to a Mac. Because Apple UNIX (macOS, iOS and >>>> iPadOS) does all of this automatically. >>> >>> But your so-called "UNIX" doesn't seem to provide basic Unix-type >>> utilities like tar and sha256sum, does it? >> >> Don't you EVER get tired of being wrong? > > As long as he gets attention I do not think he cares. Because Troll who knows nothing about Apple, macOS or UNIX. In that respect he is very much like Arlen. Keep making absurd claims that are easily proven wrong. I mean, wouldn’t an intelligent adult first do some research before making sweeping claims like “But your so-called "UNIX" doesn't seem to provide basic Unix-type utilities like tar and sha256sum, does it?”
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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 17:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1792627648.8BC6CD83@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #149716 |
On Oct 21, 2026 at 5:00 PM, Nick Charles wrote in In2dndRurraaz0T3nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@supernews.com: > Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Oct 21, 2026 at 3:56 PM, Nick Charles wrote in >> BqidnXP7s_Km3kT3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@supernews.com: >>> Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: <snip 5 lines> >> <snip 4 lines> <snip 7 lines> >>> >>> Don't you EVER get tired of being wrong? >> >> As long as he gets attention I do not think he cares. > > Because Troll who knows nothing about Apple, macOS or UNIX. True. I have all but begged him to get to a point and he struggles. He hates macOS. THAT is his point. > In that respect he is very much like Arlen. Keep making absurd claims > that are easily proven wrong. Very true... though Arlen is even more extreme with insane self-congratulations. > > I mean, wouldn't an intelligent adult first do some research before > making sweeping claims like "But your so-called "UNIX" doesn't seem to > provide basic Unix-type utilities like tar and sha256sum, does it?" That and be willing to admit when he is wrong. We ALL make mistakes. Cool. Own them and move on. -- It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-22 02:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11bbqt3$fe31$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #149716 |
On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 00:00:07 +0000, Nick Charles wrote: > ... who knows nothing about Apple, macOS or UNIX. I do know which “Unix certifications” Apple has or has not got for its platforms, which it seems is a bit more than you. > I mean, wouldn’t an intelligent adult first do some research before > making sweeping claims like “But your so-called "UNIX" doesn't seem > to provide basic Unix-type utilities like tar and sha256sum, does > it?” It doesn’t, does it?
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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 19:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1792637250.3F2A8F57@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #149719 |
On Oct 21, 2026 at 7:03 PM, Lawrence D´Oliveiro wrote in
11bbqt3$fe31$3@dont-email.me:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 00:00:07 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:
>
>> ... who knows nothing about Apple, macOS or UNIX.
>
> I do know which "Unix certifications" Apple has or has not got for its
> platforms, which it seems is a bit more than you.
You are one of the very, very few who really care about such
certifications. I know I do not. I know I just want a system that serves
me well. It happens that macOS does... with its Mac front end and Unix
underpinnings.
<http://goo.gl/0wHM> Jul 18 1995 <3uh4b8$be3@news.nevada.edu>
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if DOS were a combo of UNIX and Mac it would be cool. I just
wish we had something that combined the two. In theory that is
the way both UNIX and Mac are growing
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<http://goo.gl/EDip> Jul 19 1995 <3ujt0s$535@news.nevada.edu>
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But UNIX does have some advantages over the Mac... a CLI would
be a great addition to the Mac. I would say that between Mac and
UNIX you have the best operating systems around.
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<http://goo.gl/vrLf> Aug 10 1995 <40d96e$7ke@news.nevada.edu>
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The Mac is not the end all in computer technology. Where it
fails, UNIX excels. Between the two, there is almost no task
that computers would be used for that can not be done. And one
or the other will beat the competition in almost every area.
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You claim to know but then insist a UNIX is not UNIX. It is... weird.
--
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at
peace with you.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-22 02:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11bbqr0$fe31$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #149712 |
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 22:56:59 +0000, Nick Charles wrote: > Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> >> But your so-called “UNIX” doesn’t seem to provide basic Unix-type >> utilities like tar and sha256sum, does it? > > Don’t you EVER get tired of being wrong? You’re not exactly disputing my point ... >> I was using USB to do the file transfers. USB 3 does transfers at >> multi-gigabit/second rates. How fast is your wi-fi? > > Fast enough that I don’t have time to worry about it. Remember, I was doing over 1000 photographs.
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