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Barack Obama Is To Blame For Iran

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  Barack Obama Is To Blame For Iran "Phil Da' Lick" <Givepeeceachance@peacpipe.org> - 2026-03-02 00:48 +0000
    Re: Barack Obama Is To Blame For Iran pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-03-02 01:20 +0000
      Re: Barack Obama Is To Blame For Iran Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-02 02:58 +0000
    Re: Barack Obama Is To Blame For Iran Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-02 03:00 +0000
      Re: Barack Obama Is To Blame For Iran Octothorpe Obelus <one2threeMainstreet@anytown.org> - 2026-03-01 22:43 -0500
        Re: Barack Obama Is To Blame For Iran "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-01 20:16 -0800
    Re: Barack Obama Is To Blame For Iran J Kramer <nospam@nospam.net> - 2026-03-02 15:29 +0000
    Re: Barack Obama Is To Blame For Iran Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-03 12:20 -0800
      Re: Barack Obama Is To Blame For Iran pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-03-03 23:26 +0000
        Re: Barack Obama Is To Blame For Iran Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-03 16:16 -0800

#142947 — Barack Obama Is To Blame For Iran

From"Phil Da' Lick" <Givepeeceachance@peacpipe.org>
Date2026-03-02 00:48 +0000
SubjectBarack Obama Is To Blame For Iran
Message-ID<69a4de41$0$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
"Barack Obama Is to Blame for Iran. Here’s Why."

<https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2026/02/28/barack-obama-is-to-blame-
for-iran-heres-why-n4950069>

"Americans woke up Saturday to something big. The United States and 
Israel launched a massive joint offensive against Iran’s regime, known as 
Operation Epic Fury. According to reports, targets included Iran’s 
supreme leader and president. Major combat operations are now underway, 
and the implications are global.

Predictably, Democrats in Washington and even some Republicans are 
questioning the strikes. But let’s be honest — this moment was long 
overdue. Iran’s reign of terror didn’t start yesterday. In fact, this 
confrontation is the direct result of the Obama administration’s 
disastrous decision a decade ago to appease, enrich, and embolden Tehran.

Barack Obama and his administration sold the world a fantasy with the 
Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly referred to as the 
Iran nuclear deal. This treaty was so bad that Obama didn’t even attempt 
to get the Senate to ratify it. He just pretended it wasn’t a treaty and 
signed it unilaterally, claiming it as a foreign policy victory for 
himself.

ICYMI: Trump Announces Major Airstrikes Against Iranian Regime

In fact, Obama was so desperate to make the deal a defining foreign 
policy achievement of his presidency that the lies about the deal from 
the left have never stopped. He told us it was a historic diplomatic 
breakthrough that would block Iran’s path to nuclear weapons. In reality, 
it handed the mullahs a lifeline and a fortune. Sanctions were lifted. 
Tehran gained access to roughly $150 billion in frozen assets, and there 
was that infamous $1.7 billion in cash sent to the regime, much of it 
delivered on pallets in the middle of the night. Every step of the way, 
Obama was emboldening Iran, not containing it.

It didn’t take long for Iran to show what a joke the deal really was. 
Just three months after signing the deal, Tehran test-fired ballistic 
missiles in open violation of U.N. resolutions. German intelligence later 
reported that Iran was still seeking technology for a military nuclear 
program. The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed repeated 
violations of material limits — all while Obama kept reassuring us that 
the agreement was “working.” Even he eventually admitted Iran was 
violating the “spirit” of the deal, and that was as close as he’d ever 
get to admitting that his deal was a sham.

And while Obama’s State Department was congratulating itself, Iranian 
leaders were laughing. They bragged that the JCPOA favored Iran. Hassan 
Rouhani, then Iran’s president, boasted that the regime had used 
diplomacy to buy time and advance its nuclear program. The Obama 
administration believed it was outsmarting Tehran, but in reality, it had 
been duped.

It’s not as if the liberal media didn’t notice this either. The New York 
Times even reported in 2015 that Iran had breached its enrichment limits 
before the deal was finalized. Inspectors found that while the Obama 
White House claimed Iran’s program was “frozen,” the country’s nuclear 
stockpile actually increased by 20%. Iran was supposed to convert that 
material for peaceful use. Instead, they let it grow — and Washington 
looked the other way.

By the time President Donald Trump took office, the JCPOA wasn’t the 
safeguard Democrats claimed it was; it was just a smokescreen. Obama’s 
grand achievement hadn’t restrained Iran’s nuclear ambitions one bit. If 
anything, it emboldened them to pursue nuclear weapons as never before. 
The regime’s missile program accelerated, its proxies expanded across the 
region, and its leaders grew richer, bolder, and more violent.

Nevertheless, when Trump took office in 2017, he didn’t immediately pull 
the plug. He gave the deal every chance to work. But by 2018, the 
evidence was clear: continued violations, broken promises, and a regime 
that had learned there were no consequences. So, in May of that year, 
Trump ended the charade and withdrew from the deal once and for all. Of 
course, Joe Biden wanted to revive the deal when he took office. While he 
never succeeded, the message to Iran was clear: the Democratic Party 
would always be there for the regime. If you want to know why 
negotiations with Iran always failed, the answer is obvious: they had to 
do was wait out Trump, and hope Democrats would be in power again.

Iran has been daring the world to stop it for years, and now, it is 
finally getting what it deserves.

Iran’s reign of terror finally faces the hammer of justice with Operation 
Epic Fury, proving Trump’s strength buries Obama’s shameful appeasement 
forever. Democrats whine, but real Americans cheer this overdue smackdown 
on the mullahs. PJ Media stands as a vital conservative voice exposing 
these truths. Join PJ Media VIP today to fuel our fearless fight and keep 
us thriving — use promo code FIGHT for 60% off. Don’t let the left 
silence us now"

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#142948

Frompothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Date2026-03-02 01:20 +0000
Message-ID<10o2okf$ns0k$3@pothead.dont-email.me>
In reply to#142947
On 2026-03-02, Phil Da' Lick <Givepeeceachance@peacpipe.org> wrote:
> "Barack Obama Is to Blame for Iran. Here’s Why."
>
><https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2026/02/28/barack-obama-is-to-blame-
> for-iran-heres-why-n4950069>
>
> "Americans woke up Saturday to something big. The United States and 
> Israel launched a massive joint offensive against Iran’s regime, known as 
> Operation Epic Fury. According to reports, targets included Iran’s 
> supreme leader and president. Major combat operations are now underway, 
> and the implications are global.
>
> Predictably, Democrats in Washington and even some Republicans are 
> questioning the strikes. But let’s be honest — this moment was long 
> overdue. Iran’s reign of terror didn’t start yesterday. In fact, this 
> confrontation is the direct result of the Obama administration’s 
> disastrous decision a decade ago to appease, enrich, and embolden Tehran.
>
> Barack Obama and his administration sold the world a fantasy with the 
> Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly referred to as the 
> Iran nuclear deal. This treaty was so bad that Obama didn’t even attempt 
> to get the Senate to ratify it. He just pretended it wasn’t a treaty and 
> signed it unilaterally, claiming it as a foreign policy victory for 
> himself.
>
> ICYMI: Trump Announces Major Airstrikes Against Iranian Regime
>
> In fact, Obama was so desperate to make the deal a defining foreign 
> policy achievement of his presidency that the lies about the deal from 
> the left have never stopped. He told us it was a historic diplomatic 
> breakthrough that would block Iran’s path to nuclear weapons. In reality, 
> it handed the mullahs a lifeline and a fortune. Sanctions were lifted. 
> Tehran gained access to roughly $150 billion in frozen assets, and there 
> was that infamous $1.7 billion in cash sent to the regime, much of it 
> delivered on pallets in the middle of the night. Every step of the way, 
> Obama was emboldening Iran, not containing it.
>
> It didn’t take long for Iran to show what a joke the deal really was. 
> Just three months after signing the deal, Tehran test-fired ballistic 
> missiles in open violation of U.N. resolutions. German intelligence later 
> reported that Iran was still seeking technology for a military nuclear 
> program. The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed repeated 
> violations of material limits — all while Obama kept reassuring us that 
> the agreement was “working.” Even he eventually admitted Iran was 
> violating the “spirit” of the deal, and that was as close as he’d ever 
> get to admitting that his deal was a sham.
>
> And while Obama’s State Department was congratulating itself, Iranian 
> leaders were laughing. They bragged that the JCPOA favored Iran. Hassan 
> Rouhani, then Iran’s president, boasted that the regime had used 
> diplomacy to buy time and advance its nuclear program. The Obama 
> administration believed it was outsmarting Tehran, but in reality, it had 
> been duped.
>
> It’s not as if the liberal media didn’t notice this either. The New York 
> Times even reported in 2015 that Iran had breached its enrichment limits 
> before the deal was finalized. Inspectors found that while the Obama 
> White House claimed Iran’s program was “frozen,” the country’s nuclear 
> stockpile actually increased by 20%. Iran was supposed to convert that 
> material for peaceful use. Instead, they let it grow — and Washington 
> looked the other way.
>
> By the time President Donald Trump took office, the JCPOA wasn’t the 
> safeguard Democrats claimed it was; it was just a smokescreen. Obama’s 
> grand achievement hadn’t restrained Iran’s nuclear ambitions one bit. If 
> anything, it emboldened them to pursue nuclear weapons as never before. 
> The regime’s missile program accelerated, its proxies expanded across the 
> region, and its leaders grew richer, bolder, and more violent.
>
> Nevertheless, when Trump took office in 2017, he didn’t immediately pull 
> the plug. He gave the deal every chance to work. But by 2018, the 
> evidence was clear: continued violations, broken promises, and a regime 
> that had learned there were no consequences. So, in May of that year, 
> Trump ended the charade and withdrew from the deal once and for all. Of 
> course, Joe Biden wanted to revive the deal when he took office. While he 
> never succeeded, the message to Iran was clear: the Democratic Party 
> would always be there for the regime. If you want to know why 
> negotiations with Iran always failed, the answer is obvious: they had to 
> do was wait out Trump, and hope Democrats would be in power again.
>
> Iran has been daring the world to stop it for years, and now, it is 
> finally getting what it deserves.
>
> Iran’s reign of terror finally faces the hammer of justice with Operation 
> Epic Fury, proving Trump’s strength buries Obama’s shameful appeasement 
> forever. Democrats whine, but real Americans cheer this overdue smackdown 
> on the mullahs. PJ Media stands as a vital conservative voice exposing 
> these truths. Join PJ Media VIP today to fuel our fearless fight and keep 
> us thriving — use promo code FIGHT for 60% off. Don’t let the left 
> silence us now"

Good post and a perfect example why appeasement does not work.
Trying to negotiate is religious fanatics is a waste of time.


-- 

pothead

"How many liberals does it take to change a light bulb?
None, they’re too busy changing their gender."

"What’s the hardest part about being a Liberal?
Telling your gender neutral parental units that you’re straight."

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#142950

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2026-03-02 02:58 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB402D5551F953629555@185.151.15.160>
In reply to#142948
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:10o2okf$ns0k$3@pothead.dont-email.me: 

> On 2026-03-02, Phil Da' Lick <Givepeeceachance@peacpipe.org> wrote:
>> "Barack Obama Is to Blame for Iran. Here’s Why."
>>
>><https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2026/02/28/barack-obama-is-to-blame-
>> for-iran-heres-why-n4950069>
>>
>> "Americans woke up Saturday to something big. The United States and 
>> Israel launched a massive joint offensive against Iran’s regime,
>> known as Operation Epic Fury. According to reports, targets included
>> Iran’s supreme leader and president. Major combat operations are now
>> underway, and the implications are global.
>>
>> Predictably, Democrats in Washington and even some Republicans are 
>> questioning the strikes. But let’s be honest — this moment was long
>> overdue. Iran’s reign of terror didn’t start yesterday. In fact,
>> this confrontation is the direct result of the Obama
>> administration’s disastrous decision a decade ago to appease,
>> enrich, and embolden Tehran. 
>>
>> Barack Obama and his administration sold the world a fantasy with the
>> Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly referred to as
>> the Iran nuclear deal. This treaty was so bad that Obama didn’t even
>> attempt to get the Senate to ratify it. He just pretended it wasn’t
>> a treaty and signed it unilaterally, claiming it as a foreign policy
>> victory for himself.
>>
>> ICYMI: Trump Announces Major Airstrikes Against Iranian Regime
>>
>> In fact, Obama was so desperate to make the deal a defining foreign 
>> policy achievement of his presidency that the lies about the deal
>> from the left have never stopped. He told us it was a historic
>> diplomatic breakthrough that would block Iran’s path to nuclear
>> weapons. In reality, it handed the mullahs a lifeline and a fortune.
>> Sanctions were lifted. Tehran gained access to roughly $150 billion
>> in frozen assets, and there was that infamous $1.7 billion in cash
>> sent to the regime, much of it delivered on pallets in the middle of
>> the night. Every step of the way, Obama was emboldening Iran, not
>> containing it. 
>>
>> It didn’t take long for Iran to show what a joke the deal really
>> was. Just three months after signing the deal, Tehran test-fired
>> ballistic missiles in open violation of U.N. resolutions. German
>> intelligence later reported that Iran was still seeking technology
>> for a military nuclear program. The International Atomic Energy
>> Agency confirmed repeated violations of material limits — all while
>> Obama kept reassuring us that the agreement was “working.” Even he
>> eventually admitted Iran was violating the “spirit” of the deal,
>> and that was as close as he’d ever get to admitting that his deal
>> was a sham. 
>>
>> And while Obama’s State Department was congratulating itself,
>> Iranian leaders were laughing. They bragged that the JCPOA favored
>> Iran. Hassan Rouhani, then Iran’s president, boasted that the regime
>> had used diplomacy to buy time and advance its nuclear program. The
>> Obama administration believed it was outsmarting Tehran, but in
>> reality, it had been duped.
>>
>> It’s not as if the liberal media didn’t notice this either. The New
>> York Times even reported in 2015 that Iran had breached its
>> enrichment limits before the deal was finalized. Inspectors found
>> that while the Obama White House claimed Iran’s program was
>> “frozen,” the country’s nuclear stockpile actually increased by
>> 20%. Iran was supposed to convert that material for peaceful use.
>> Instead, they let it grow — and Washington looked the other way.
>>
>> By the time President Donald Trump took office, the JCPOA wasn’t the
>> safeguard Democrats claimed it was; it was just a smokescreen.
>> Obama’s grand achievement hadn’t restrained Iran’s nuclear
>> ambitions one bit. If anything, it emboldened them to pursue nuclear
>> weapons as never before. The regime’s missile program accelerated,
>> its proxies expanded across the region, and its leaders grew richer,
>> bolder, and more violent. 
>>
>> Nevertheless, when Trump took office in 2017, he didn’t immediately
>> pull the plug. He gave the deal every chance to work. But by 2018,
>> the evidence was clear: continued violations, broken promises, and a
>> regime that had learned there were no consequences. So, in May of
>> that year, Trump ended the charade and withdrew from the deal once
>> and for all. Of course, Joe Biden wanted to revive the deal when he
>> took office. While he never succeeded, the message to Iran was clear:
>> the Democratic Party would always be there for the regime. If you
>> want to know why negotiations with Iran always failed, the answer is
>> obvious: they had to do was wait out Trump, and hope Democrats would
>> be in power again. 
>>
>> Iran has been daring the world to stop it for years, and now, it is 
>> finally getting what it deserves.
>>
>> Iran’s reign of terror finally faces the hammer of justice with
>> Operation Epic Fury, proving Trump’s strength buries Obama’s
>> shameful appeasement forever. Democrats whine, but real Americans
>> cheer this overdue smackdown on the mullahs. PJ Media stands as a
>> vital conservative voice exposing these truths. Join PJ Media VIP
>> today to fuel our fearless fight and keep us thriving — use promo
>> code FIGHT for 60% off. Don’t let the left silence us now"
> 
> Good post and a perfect example why appeasement does not work.


    Trump should just sell missles to Iran
the way Reagan did. Negotiation always works,
right? 


> Trying to negotiate is religious fanatics is a waste of time.

    
    Does selling nuclear technology to 
religious fanatics count as negotiation?



Trump administration approved 2 nuclear 
deals to Saudi Arabia 
June 4, 2019
https://abcnews.com/Politics/trump-administration-approved-nuclear-deals-
saudi-arabia-khashoggi/story?id=63492793

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#142951

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2026-03-02 03:00 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB402D5B6ACDF5629555@185.151.15.160>
In reply to#142947
"Phil Da' Lick" <Givepeeceachance@peacpipe.org> wrote in
news:69a4de41$0$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com: 

> "Barack Obama Is to Blame for Iran. Here’s Why."
> 
> <https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2026/02/28/barack-obama-is-to-blame-
> for-iran-heres-why-n4950069>
> 
> "Americans woke up Saturday to something big. The United States and 
> Israel launched a massive joint offensive against Iran’s regime, known
> as Operation Epic Fury. According to reports, targets included Iran’s 
> supreme leader and president. Major combat operations are now
> underway, and the implications are global.
> 
> Predictably, Democrats in Washington and even some Republicans are 
> questioning the strikes. But let’s be honest — this moment was long 
> overdue. Iran’s reign of terror didn’t start yesterday. In fact, this 
> confrontation is the direct result of the Obama administration’s 
> disastrous decision a decade ago to appease, enrich, and embolden
> Tehran. 


    It was Reagan, not Obama, who appeased
Iran by selling them missles. 




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#142952

FromOctothorpe Obelus <one2threeMainstreet@anytown.org>
Date2026-03-01 22:43 -0500
Message-ID<20260301224341.1d8bc01d@weed>
In reply to#142951
On Mon, 02 Mar 2026 03:00:57 +0000
Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

> "Phil Da' Lick" <Givepeeceachance@peacpipe.org> wrote in
> news:69a4de41$0$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com: 
> 
> > "Barack Obama Is to Blame for Iran. Here_s Why."
> > 
> > <https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2026/02/28/barack-obama-is-to-blame-
> > for-iran-heres-why-n4950069>
> > 
> > "Americans woke up Saturday to something big. The United States and 
> > Israel launched a massive joint offensive against Iran_s regime,
> > known as Operation Epic Fury. According to reports, targets
> > included Iran_s supreme leader and president. Major combat
> > operations are now underway, and the implications are global.
> > 
> > Predictably, Democrats in Washington and even some Republicans are 
> > questioning the strikes. But let_s be honest _ this moment was long 
> > overdue. Iran_s reign of terror didn_t start yesterday. In fact,
> > this confrontation is the direct result of the Obama
> > administration_s disastrous decision a decade ago to appease,
> > enrich, and embolden Tehran. 
> 
> 
>     It was Reagan, not Obama, who appeased
> Iran by selling them missles. 

Who said anything about missles?
Oh, that was you.
Why are you unable to focus on the topic without drifting?
ADHD perhaps?



-- 
Octothorpe Obelus

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#142953

From"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2026-03-01 20:16 -0800
Message-ID<10o32sf$r6th$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#142952
Octothorpe Obelus wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Mar 2026 03:00:57 +0000
> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> "Phil Da' Lick" <Givepeeceachance@peacpipe.org> wrote in
>> news:69a4de41$0$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>
>>> "Barack Obama Is to Blame for Iran. Here_s Why."
>>>
>>> <https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2026/02/28/barack-obama-is-to-blame-
>>> for-iran-heres-why-n4950069>
>>>
>>> "Americans woke up Saturday to something big. The United States and
>>> Israel launched a massive joint offensive against Iran_s regime,
>>> known as Operation Epic Fury. According to reports, targets
>>> included Iran_s supreme leader and president. Major combat
>>> operations are now underway, and the implications are global.
>>>
>>> Predictably, Democrats in Washington and even some Republicans are
>>> questioning the strikes. But let_s be honest _ this moment was long
>>> overdue. Iran_s reign of terror didn_t start yesterday. In fact,
>>> this confrontation is the direct result of the Obama
>>> administration_s disastrous decision a decade ago to appease,
>>> enrich, and embolden Tehran.
>>
>>
>>      It was Reagan, not Obama, who appeased
>> Iran by selling them missles.
>
> Who said anything about missles?
> Oh, that was you.
> Why are you unable to focus on the topic without drifting?
> ADHD perhaps?

Eisenhower not Obama. Eisenhower overthrew the Iranian republic then 
regime changed to a shah. Iranians were tad upset with the USA. They 
supported the opposition which overthrew our shah and his beloved Savak.

Eisenhower did more harm to Iran than Obama, Bush, or Bush.

Thousands of men and women have been summarily executed during the last 
twenty-three years. More than 300,000 people have been in and out of 
prison during the last nineteen years of the existence of SAVAK; an 
average of 1,500 people are arrested every month. In one instance alone, 
American-trained counterinsurgency troops of the Iranian Army and SAVAK 
killed more than 6,000 people on June 5, 1963. According to Amnesty 
International’s Annual Report for 1974-1975 “the total number of 
political prisoners has been reported at times throughout the year 
[1975] to be anything from 25,000 to 100,000.”
Martin Ennals, secretary general of Amnesty International, reports in 
his introduction to the above book: “The Shah of Iran retains his 
benevolent image despite the highest rate of death penalties in the 
world, no valid system of civilian courts and a history of torture which 
is beyond belief.”

I believe the number of political prisoners in Iran is still on the 
rise. The number of announced executions in the first five months of 
this year is more than eighty, while the number for the whole of last 
year was less than forty. Assuming a proportional rate of increase, the 
number of political prisoners this year must have at least quadrupled, 
since the number of officially announced executions will have risen 
fourfold.

Nothing could be further from the truth than to say that an Iranian 
prison looks like a garden, or that Iranian writers are held in better 
prisons than the other prisoners. All prisoners have a common destiny. 
With twenty-six books to my name I was kept in a dark solitary 
confinement cell of four feet by eight feet. There was nothing on the 
floor except for a dirty old blanket. There was no bed either.

-- 
Siri Seal of Disavowal #777-000. Disavowed. Denied.  @
NO KINGS    For I desire mercy not sacrifice.       /|\
The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 5.5        / \
of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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#142954

FromJ Kramer <nospam@nospam.net>
Date2026-03-02 15:29 +0000
Message-ID<10o4adf$18nbb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#142947
Trump says Obama is a negro from Africa and he's to blame for all Trump's 
failures.   Nobody's ever going to vote for Obama after what  happened in 
Iran.

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#142984

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2026-03-03 12:20 -0800
Message-ID<10o7fr1$2beai$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#142947
On 2026-03-01 16:48, Phil Da' Lick wrote:
> "Barack Obama Is to Blame for Iran. Here’s Why."
> 
> <https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2026/02/28/barack-obama-is-to-blame-
> for-iran-heres-why-n4950069>
So the UN came up with a deal to eliminate Iran's nuclear program...

...and the US signed on under Obama...

...then Trump reneged on that deal...

...then he claimed that they obliterated their nuclear capability...

...and now he's started a war to get a nuclear deal.

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#142991

Frompothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Date2026-03-03 23:26 +0000
Message-ID<10o7qnr$2f7v8$1@pothead.dont-email.me>
In reply to#142984
On 2026-03-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2026-03-01 16:48, Phil Da' Lick wrote:
>> "Barack Obama Is to Blame for Iran. Here’s Why."
>> 
>> <https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2026/02/28/barack-obama-is-to-blame-
>> for-iran-heres-why-n4950069>
> So the UN came up with a deal to eliminate Iran's nuclear program...

the UN?
You can't be serious, can you?
The UN has done nothing to make things better. They have emergency meetings up the ying yang and
yet nothing effective ever gets accomplished.

They are a worldwide joke much like The League Of Nations was.


> ...and the US signed on under Obama...

Correct.

> ...then Trump reneged on that deal...

Correct.
And the reason why is because the deal was a joke. Iran dictated when, where and how
the inspectors were able to inspect.

You cannot be this ignorant.

> ...then he claimed that they obliterated their nuclear capability...

Remains to be seen.
He obliterated what intelligence knows about Iran's nuclear capability.
They could and probably do have facilities elsewhere than intelligence knows
nothing about.

Nit picking again.

At least Trump did something other than sending pallets of cash to Iran.
How well did that work out?

> ...and now he's started a war to get a nuclear deal.

Huh?
Iran started this mess and Trump and other nations are going to finish it.

Why don't you say anything about the Iranian leadership murdering 10's of
thousands of their own people and imprisoning thousands more?

You libtards are all for women's and gay rights but say nothing about how Iran
treats these people.

You are all suffering from TDS and are evil and a bunch of hypocrites.

-- 

pothead

"How many liberals does it take to change a light bulb?
None, they’re too busy changing their gender."

"What’s the hardest part about being a Liberal?
Telling your gender neutral parental units that you’re straight."

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#142998

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2026-03-03 16:16 -0800
Message-ID<10o7tk9$2gi04$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#142991
On 2026-03-03 15:26, pothead wrote:
> On 2026-03-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2026-03-01 16:48, Phil Da' Lick wrote:
>>> "Barack Obama Is to Blame for Iran. Here’s Why."
>>>
>>> <https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2026/02/28/barack-obama-is-to-blame-
>>> for-iran-heres-why-n4950069>
>> So the UN came up with a deal to eliminate Iran's nuclear program...
> 
> the UN?
> You can't be serious, can you?
> The UN has done nothing to make things better. They have emergency meetings up the ying yang and
> yet nothing effective ever gets accomplished.

Whether that's true or not, the simple fact is that his wasn't an Obama deal

It was a UN deal.

> 
> They are a worldwide joke much like The League Of Nations was.
> 
> 
>> ...and the US signed on under Obama...
> 
> Correct.
> 
>> ...then Trump reneged on that deal...
> 
> Correct.
> And the reason why is because the deal was a joke. Iran dictated when, where and how
> the inspectors were able to inspect.

Cite, please!

> 
> You cannot be this ignorant.
> 
>> ...then he claimed that they obliterated their nuclear capability...
> 
> Remains to be seen.

You agree he claimed it, right?

> He obliterated what intelligence knows about Iran's nuclear capability.
> They could and probably do have facilities elsewhere than intelligence knows
> nothing about.
> 

So then why did he claim it?

> Nit picking again.
> 
> At least Trump did something other than sending pallets of cash to Iran.

Cash that was Iran's.

> How well did that work out?

How did it fail?

> 
>> ...and now he's started a war to get a nuclear deal.
> 
> Huh?
> Iran started this mess and Trump and other nations are going to finish it.

How did Iran "start" the current hostilities?

> 
> Why don't you say anything about the Iranian leadership murdering 10's of
> thousands of their own people and imprisoning thousands more?

It's irrelevant to this discussion

> 
> You libtards are all for women's and gay rights but say nothing about how Iran
> treats these people.

There are lots of horrible regimes in the world (and Iran is certainly 
one)...

...but you only seem to notice that when Trump attacks one.

> 
> You are all suffering from TDS and are evil and a bunch of hypocrites.
Cannabis has addled your brain.

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