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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Michael Glasser lying again |
| Date | 2015-08-29 02:48 +0000 |
| Organization | ok by me, so long as it doesn't get out of hand |
| Message-ID | <fanmcjv83.djf@rooftop.invalid> (permalink) |
| References | (4 earlier) <sandman-3b30fe316691839c29cf3bb1afc9c374@individual.net> <mrph5q$re2$2@dont-email.me> <D205CB28.58FB7%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <sfnmvnc83.sdjfi@rooftop.invalid> <D20669CC.5916F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 8/28/15, 7:13 PM, in article sfnmvnc83.sdjfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>> On 8/28/15, 4:39 AM, in article mrph5q$re2$2@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann" >>> <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >> >>>> Sandman wrote: >>>> >>>>> In article <mrp4mb$i84$1@dont-email.me>, Peter K�hlmann wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In every way. Linux has the ability to create PDFs directly from the >>>>>> file browser without going through some "PDF services" the OSX way >>>>>> since years And the original file type may vary more, you can even >>>>>> generate PDFs with videos inside (and not just the link to that >>>>>> video) >>>>> >>>>> What file formats does it support? >>>> >>>> I have tried all MPeg video formats, also H264 and VP8 >>>> >>>> Basically all where it makes sense. You can even put logs to PDF, although >>>> that is not really useful. >>>> You can't generate PDFs from Zip-files, for example. Or other packer >>>> formats. >> >>> Why not show it? Wait... when asked to VIEW a YouTube video you claimed it >>> was, to you, unreadable: >> >> >>> Peter, about Snit's video: https://youtu.be/JFQOgBkCkSM >>> ----- >>> Did you make the video unreadable for some reason? ... So you >>> naturally had to obscure the video ... You showed a video which is >>> unreadable ... I knew that you would come up with a trick like >>> this. So now you lied by not making readable what you really >>> clicked on >>> ----- >> >>> Given how you cannot even VIEW a YouTube video there is no chance you could >>> show what you are claiming you can do. >> >>> Also keep in mind such tools do not do the same as OS X's PDF Services, >>> which you claimed they did based on your ignorance. What Owl showed handles >>> NONE of the use cases listed: >> >>> 1) You have a document open. You want that open documented sent to someone >>> as a PDF. >> >>> 2) You have a document open. You want that open document sent with a name >>> you select (as a PDF). >> >>> 3) You are viewing a web page: you want that page saved, as a PDF, to a >>> Recipes folder, a Web Receipts folder, or some other common destination. >> >>> With that said, being able to convert to PDF from the desktop is cool and he >>> has been able to do it better than I. Here is my best efforts so far: >>> <https://youtu.be/QkCcg0TeDp4>. If I had better command line skills or took >>> more time to fix it then it would be better. :) >> >> https://vid.me/H9m0 >> Just as with OS X, it's up to the developer which "PDF Services" >> he or she wants to expose to the user. > First: thanks for zooming in so folks such as Peter who have trouble viewing > videos online can read it to. I had no such problem even without the zoom. > :) > What you did here was write a program that gave you these options. In OS X > darn near ANY program has these options... with the exception of the few, > poorly written / ported programs such as the ones I found which did not > handle files well (precisely two programs have been found so far). In other words, the ones whose developers did not add that menu option. > But I can use PDF Services from any browser I know of (just tested even > Firefox which tends to be fairly lousy) and Opera (though you do need to > select the system print dialog - you have a choice). Oh, and Tor browser. :) > It works in Adobe programs and MS programs and the programs of small > developers. It is not a separate program that I can run, it is integrated > throughout the system. > That is a very different thing. If it's in the application's menu, then the developer coded it in.
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OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-27 15:57 -0700
Re: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-28 01:11 +0200
Re: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-28 01:13 +0200
Re: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-27 16:20 -0700
Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-28 10:06 +0200
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-08-28 10:24 +0000
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-28 13:39 +0200
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-08-28 13:04 +0000
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-28 15:33 +0200
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Tommy Troll <elkabong99@Itroll.org> - 2015-08-28 09:50 -0400
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-28 16:12 +0200
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 08:01 -0700
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) "Thomas E." <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 12:55 -0700
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-08-28 13:39 -0700
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-08-31 06:02 +0000
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 08:58 +0200
Re: Peter Köhlmann lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 00:15 -0700
Re: Peter Köhlmann lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 00:29 -0700
Re: Peter Köhlmann lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 09:35 +0200
Re: Peter Köhlmann lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 01:19 -0700
Re: Peter Köhlmann lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 00:33 -0700
Re: Peter Köhlmann lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 10:04 +0200
Re: Peter Köhlmann lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 01:20 -0700
Re: Peter Köhlmann lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 12:15 +0200
Re: Peter Köhlmann lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 09:24 -0700
Re: Peter Köhlmann lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-03 11:47 -0500
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-08-31 07:57 +0000
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 10:08 +0200
Re: Peter Köhlmann lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 01:23 -0700
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-08-31 08:27 +0000
Re: Peter Köhlmann lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 01:32 -0700
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-31 20:11 +0000
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 13:27 -0700
Re: Peter Köhlmann lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 01:15 -0700
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-03 11:44 -0500
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 08:24 -0700
Re: Michael Glasser lying again owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 02:13 +0000
Re: Michael Glasser lying again Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 19:41 -0700
Re: Michael Glasser lying again owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 02:48 +0000
Re: Michael Glasser lying again Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 21:09 -0700
Re: Michael Glasser lying again Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 21:16 -0700
Re: Michael Glasser lying again owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 05:47 +0000
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 23:17 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 09:33 +0000
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 11:44 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 19:17 +0000
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:02 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 20:16 +0000
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:31 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 21:57 +0000
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 15:33 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 23:09 +0000
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 16:11 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 23:37 +0000
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-30 01:53 +0200
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:04 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-30 02:05 +0200
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:30 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-30 02:06 +0200
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:00 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:18 +0000
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:32 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:39 +0000
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 21:46 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 04:29 -0500
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:01 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-31 20:38 -0500
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 18:52 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-01 07:22 -0500
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 10:46 -0700
Re: Owl and Peter deem knowledge to be a lie GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-01 12:06 -0600
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Walter Myer <awoolmeyer@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 05:40 -0700
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-28 12:34 -0600
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-28 20:43 +0200
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 13:17 -0700
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-28 15:04 -0600
Re: Michael Glasser lying again (Was: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 13:17 -0700
Re: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 10:48 -0500
Re: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 11:40 -0700
Re: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 14:01 -0500
Re: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-08-31 09:07 -0500
Re: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 12:35 -0700
Re: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-08-31 09:04 -0500
Re: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 10:33 -0700
Re: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder "Thomas E." <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 05:05 -0700
Re: OS X: Print to PDF from the Finder Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 07:59 -0700
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