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Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of

From Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of
Date 2025-08-21 21:30 +0000
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Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 21:17:56 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
> 
> 
>>> This is exactly like you saying "FaceTime" when you mean video calling.
>> 
>> That's not what I said. You're deflecting. 
> 
> I addressed EVERY one of your issues in detail in the thread on the topic.

OK. Let's see:

>> He will of course deny they are useful, claim they have a direct equivalent
>> in android and will change the definition multiple times. 
>> 
>> So here's the list in no particular order. 
>> 
>> FaceID
>> Universal Clipboard
>> Backtap
>> Geofencing and shortcuts in general
>> Homekit integration
>> Centre stage
>> Find My - google's is nowhere near as useful being too new
>> Family account settings (great for managing subs for kids)
>> visual voicemail 
>> Facetime hand gestures
>> scan to pdf (and annotate)
>> 
>> Bonus one for ipadOS: Sidecar
>> 
>> Personally, I use most, but not all of the above and would miss them if I
>> didn't have them.
> 
> All the functionalities Chris listed are available on Android, whether
> natively, via OEM tools, or through third-party apps. 

Then it's not an Android functionality is it?

> The distinction lies
> in meaningless branding, not in the existence of the features themselves.
> 
>  Apple Feature             Android Equivalent(s)
>  --------------------------------------------------------
>  FaceID                    Face Unlock (Pixel, Samsung Intelligent Scan)

I accept the Pixel 9 has depth perception. Samsung is still 2D only so
insecure. 

>  Universal Clipboard       SwiftKey + Windows Cloud Clipboard, Gboard

Requires a third party account and so allowing a third party to see
everything you type and copy is deeply unsatisfactory. 

>                            Clipboard, Samsung Link to Windows
>  Backtap                   Quick Tap (Pixel), RegiStar in Good Lock
>                            (Samsung), Tap Tap (third party)

Good to see Pixel catching up. However, third party apps elsewhere aren't
going to work well. 

>  Geofencing and Shortcuts  Tasker, MacroDroid, Samsung Modes and Routines

This party tools and you've already shown that geofencing doesn't work. 

>  HomeKit Integration       Google Home, Samsung SmartThings, Home Assistant

Are they integrated into the OS or simply an app?

>  Centre Stage              Auto Framing in Google Meet, Instagram Body
>                            Frame, Samsung/Pixel tablet auto framing

App specific. Centre stage works with all apps not just Apple ones. It is
core to iOS. 

>  Find My                   Google Find My Device including Bluetooth
>                            tracker support for Pebblebee and Chipolo

Nothing matches Find My for utility and ubiquity. Pebblebee and Chipolo in
fact use the Apple Find My network. They aren't an alternative. 

>  Family Account Settings   Google Family Link
>  Visual Voicemail          Google Phone (carrier VVM), Google Voice,
>                            YouMail, HulloMail

Application specific. Doesn't work with traditional carriers. 

>  FaceTime Hand Gestures    Meet, Zoom, Snapchat, Instagram filters and
>                            reactions

Limited to app capability. Hand gestures are global in iOS/macOS. 

Claiming that instagram and snapchat are equivalent is funny. 

>  Scan to PDF and Annotate  Adobe Scan, Xodo, PDFelement, Google Drive Scan,
>                            OEM camera doc scan

All third party and from experience usually require an online service. 

>  Sidecar (iPadOS)          Duet Display, Splashtop, Spacedesk, Samsung
>                            Second Screen (Windows pairing)

Third party. 

So it seems that third parties attempt to fix many Android weaknesses while
introducing others when compared to the core functionality of iOS with no
third party deficiencies. 

Also good to see some of the Pixel hardware catching up, however the
battery performance doesn't win any prizes. Maybe the 10 will improve on
that?

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Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-20 16:57 +0000
  Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-20 21:17 +0000
    Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-21 00:11 +0000
      Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 07:14 +0000
      Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 21:30 +0000
        Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-22 02:03 +0000
          Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-23 11:56 +0000
            Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-24 01:22 +0000
  Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-23 16:22 -0700
    Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-24 01:31 +0000
    Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-24 17:14 -0400
      Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-25 01:26 +0000
        Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 14:41 -0400
          Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-26 10:00 +1200
            Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-26 03:06 +0000
            Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 16:26 +0000
              Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-27 00:48 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 16:43 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 03:13 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 19:23 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 23:48 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 15:28 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-30 22:22 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 16:59 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-31 18:32 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-02 12:32 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-02 22:03 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-02 22:50 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 15:28 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-03 17:11 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 15:38 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-27 21:16 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 03:24 +0000
        Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 19:17 +0000
          Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-26 01:57 +0000
          Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 09:19 -0400
          Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-26 09:23 -0400
            Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-27 08:40 +1200
              Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 03:42 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 16:17 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 16:19 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 10:46 -0400

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