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  Webcam on PMT! Cass_2000 <Cass_2000.4vi6gd@no.email.invalid> - 2011-06-15 09:51 -0500
    Re: Webcam on PMT! "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-06-18 08:24 -0500
      Re: Webcam on PMT! Cass_2000 <Cass_2000.4vl2qy@no.email.invalid> - 2011-06-18 15:43 -0500
        Re: Webcam on PMT! "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-06-21 08:31 -0500
          Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-02 05:34 -0500
            Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) AJL <36566678nomail@none.com> - 2011-07-02 11:05 -0700
              Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-02 18:00 -0500
                Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) AJL <85389nomail@nomail.com> - 2011-07-02 16:21 -0700
                  Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) AJL <1245nomail@none.com> - 2011-07-02 16:28 -0700
                Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) AJL <1245nomail@none.com> - 2011-07-02 16:58 -0700
                  Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-03 14:05 -0500
                    Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) AJL <85389nomail@nomail.com> - 2011-07-03 22:49 -0700
                      Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-04 11:25 -0500
                        Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) AJL <85389nomail@nomail.com> - 2011-07-05 19:55 -0700
                      Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) AJL <123467nomail@none.com> - 2011-07-06 19:35 -0700
                        Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-09 04:49 -0500
                          Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) AJL <128945nomail@none.com> - 2011-07-09 15:39 -0700
                            Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-10 10:22 -0500
                              Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-10 12:19 -0500
                              Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) AJL <128945nomail@none.com> - 2011-07-10 14:17 -0700
                                Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-10 17:59 -0500
                                  Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) AJL <128945nomail@none.com> - 2011-07-10 20:16 -0700
                    Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) "Esra Sdrawkcab" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2011-07-04 10:23 +0100
                      Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-04 11:15 -0500
                        Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) "Esra Sdrawkcab" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2011-07-05 14:15 +0100
                          Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-09 05:37 -0500
                            Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-09 07:08 -0500
                              Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) "Esra Sdrawkcab" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2011-07-11 08:23 +0100
                            Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL) "Esra Sdrawkcab" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2011-07-11 08:24 +0100

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#418 — Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL)

In news:4n5k17dan5acebmsecn047et6dvnh1hef1@4ax.com,
AJL wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:22:46 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> Well I still have five boxes here. And the boxes are exactly the
>> same no matter which model was in there.
>
> Sure wish I'd saved my box. You never know when you'll need one to
> solve a mystery... ;)

They are not all that big and I have mine up on the bookshelf.

>> My manuals states:...
>> Eee PC 4G (701)
>
> So most of your manuals (except the one quoted) don't give
> model numbers either.

No I mean there are only two different manuals (E3509 and E3683) that I 
have. All of the Linux ones are all one manual (E3509) and all of the 
Windows ones are another (E3683). And the Linux manual covers the 
following three models. It doesn't matter if they are a 701 or a 702 
model.

E3509 (Xandros)

Eee PC 4G (701)
Eee PC 4G Surf
Eee PC 8G

October 2007

And the Windows ones are all of the same and cover the following models.

E3683 (Windows XP)

Eee PC 8G
Eee PC 4G
Eee PC 4G Surf

February 2008

So what's the E number of your manual?

Here is a link to the XP version (although two months older than what I 
have) I found. So you can see what I mean.

http://www.retrevo.com/support/Asus-8G-Laptops-manual/id/7047bh043/t/2/

> I did a little searching and have yet to find a site that gives an
> actual model number for the 2G Surf. Only the apparent one time slip
> up in the 2G manual (700) and Wikipedia's article (700 or 701) give a
> clue. As you can tell I have a lot of free time on my hands... ;)

So what are you running on your Surf? I had to give up on Xandros since 
Firefox 2 can't view many websites anymore (worse than trying to use 
IE6). So I am using Ubuntu once again.

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 

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#420 — Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL)

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:59:43 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>there are only two different manuals (E3509 and E3683) that I 
>have. All of the Linux ones are all one manual (E3509) and all of the 
>Windows ones are another (E3683). 

>So what's the E number of your manual?

My 2G Surf manual is E3607 (Dec 2007). 
The XP Installation Guide insert is E3606 (Dec 2007).

To add to the confusion:

Manual for my 1000HW (purchased 10-08):
No manual number/no manual date. Title page says XP edition, covers
1000 series and 904/905 series.

Manual for my 1015PE (purchased 5-11):
Manual: E5871 (no date) 
Technical Update Insert: E5782 (no date)

>So what are you running on your Surf? 

It's completely stock. I brought it back to the factory standards
using the built in hidden recovery partition.

>I had to give up on Xandros since 
>Firefox 2 can't view many websites anymore 

Have you tried using the built in Konqueror browser/file manager? It
still does a pretty good job, course YMMV.

>So I am using Ubuntu once again.

That won't fit on the 2G. However I have used the 10-10 version dual
booting on a couple of my XP laptops. In both cases it was mostly
slower than XP, ran the battery down faster, and of course wouldn't
run much of the Windows software I like (like this Agent newsreader -
Pan was no substitute). I of course tried Wine but while it partially
worked, it always seemed to have a problem with my stuff.

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#375 — Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL)

On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:05:35 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>
> And it seems nobody is manufacturing 7 inch netbooks anymore. I like  
> them because they are the smallest and generally the lightest netbooks.  
> If I want larger, I use a laptop. And it seems as used 7 inch netbooks  
> are getting harder and harder to find, the prices are going up and not  
> down. Now it seems yours is even worth more used than it did when it was  
> new. ;-)
>

Not that your saying it, but the 701, whilst having a 7" screen, is the  
same size ("form factor") as the 901, i.e. it's bigger than 7" across.


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#376 — Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL)

In news:op.vx28coj3hswpfo@dell3100,
Esra Sdrawkcab wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:05:35 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> And it seems nobody is manufacturing 7 inch netbooks anymore. I like
>> them because they are the smallest and generally the lightest
>> netbooks. If I want larger, I use a laptop. And it seems as used 7
>> inch netbooks are getting harder and harder to find, the prices are
>> going up and not down. Now it seems yours is even worth more used
>> than it did when it was new. ;-)
>
> Not that your saying it, but the 701, whilst having a 7" screen, is
> the same size ("form factor") as the 901, i.e. it's bigger than 7"
> across.

I'm not seeing it here.

225mm x 165mm @ 922 grams = All 700 series
225mm x 170mm @ 990 grams = 900
248mm x 175.3mm @ 1140 grams = 901

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee_PC

So the 901 is 23mm x 10.3mm larger than the 700 series. Another nice 
thing about the 700 series is that the speakers are alongside of the 
screen. Which sounds a lot better than on the bottom like most other 
netbooks.

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 

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#381 — Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL)

On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:15:26 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

> In news:op.vx28coj3hswpfo@dell3100,
> Esra Sdrawkcab wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:05:35 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>>> And it seems nobody is manufacturing 7 inch netbooks anymore. I like
>>> them because they are the smallest and generally the lightest
>>> netbooks. If I want larger, I use a laptop. And it seems as used 7
>>> inch netbooks are getting harder and harder to find, the prices are
>>> going up and not down. Now it seems yours is even worth more used
>>> than it did when it was new. ;-)
>>
>> Not that your saying it, but the 701, whilst having a 7" screen, is
>> the same size ("form factor") as the 901, i.e. it's bigger than 7"
>> across.
>
> I'm not seeing it here.
>
> 225mm x 165mm @ 922 grams = All 700 series
> 225mm x 170mm @ 990 grams = 900
> 248mm x 175.3mm @ 1140 grams = 901
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee_PC
>
> So the 901 is 23mm x 10.3mm larger than the 700 series. Another nice
> thing about the 700 series is that the speakers are alongside of the
> screen. Which sounds a lot better than on the bottom like most other
> netbooks.
>
Ah, OK. I once saw someone ask if it'd be possible to put a 900 screen on  
a 701.
I ass*u*med they were the same size.

My point, that I failed to make, is that the 701 is significantly bigger  
than 7" across diagonally. (Gets 701 and tape measure) I make it 10 and  
3/4 inches or 275mm in new money. I still want a 901 for the screen size,  
the 701 either doesn't show stuff, or I have to run a virtual screen  
scrolling prog which doesn't quite track where the screen should be.



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#401 — Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL)

On 7/5/2011 8:15 AM, Esra Sdrawkcab wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:15:26 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> In news:op.vx28coj3hswpfo@dell3100,
>> Esra Sdrawkcab wrote:
>>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:05:35 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And it seems nobody is manufacturing 7 inch netbooks anymore. I like
>>>> them because they are the smallest and generally the lightest
>>>> netbooks. If I want larger, I use a laptop. And it seems as used 7
>>>> inch netbooks are getting harder and harder to find, the prices are
>>>> going up and not down. Now it seems yours is even worth more used
>>>> than it did when it was new. ;-)
>>>
>>> Not that your saying it, but the 701, whilst having a 7" screen, is
>>> the same size ("form factor") as the 901, i.e. it's bigger than 7"
>>> across.
>>
>> I'm not seeing it here.
>>
>> 225mm x 165mm @ 922 grams = All 700 series
>> 225mm x 170mm @ 990 grams = 900
>> 248mm x 175.3mm @ 1140 grams = 901
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee_PC
>>
>> So the 901 is 23mm x 10.3mm larger than the 700 series. Another nice
>> thing about the 700 series is that the speakers are alongside of the
>> screen. Which sounds a lot better than on the bottom like most other
>> netbooks.
>>
> Ah, OK. I once saw someone ask if it'd be possible to put a 900 screen
> on a 701.
> I ass*u*med they were the same size.
>
> My point, that I failed to make, is that the 701 is significantly bigger
> than 7" across diagonally. (Gets 701 and tape measure) I make it 10 and
> 3/4 inches or 275mm in new money. I still want a 901 for the screen
> size, the 701 either doesn't show stuff, or I have to run a virtual
> screen scrolling prog which doesn't quite track where the screen should be.

Ah yes! I can definitely appreciate the larger screen. And the 9 inch 
gets you there the easy way. Although did you ever use AsTray2? As it 
uses a little known feature of downscaling (or sometimes called 
compressed mode) of Intel graphics. And I can use up to 1024x768 without 
scrolling on a 7 inch screen. And that helps a great deal when you need 
to see the whole larger desktop without scrolling.

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

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#402 — Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL)

On 7/9/2011 5:37 AM, BillW50 wrote:
> On 7/5/2011 8:15 AM, Esra Sdrawkcab wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:15:26 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>>> In news:op.vx28coj3hswpfo@dell3100,
>>> Esra Sdrawkcab wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:05:35 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And it seems nobody is manufacturing 7 inch netbooks anymore. I like
>>>>> them because they are the smallest and generally the lightest
>>>>> netbooks. If I want larger, I use a laptop. And it seems as used 7
>>>>> inch netbooks are getting harder and harder to find, the prices are
>>>>> going up and not down. Now it seems yours is even worth more used
>>>>> than it did when it was new. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Not that your saying it, but the 701, whilst having a 7" screen, is
>>>> the same size ("form factor") as the 901, i.e. it's bigger than 7"
>>>> across.
>>>
>>> I'm not seeing it here.
>>>
>>> 225mm x 165mm @ 922 grams = All 700 series
>>> 225mm x 170mm @ 990 grams = 900
>>> 248mm x 175.3mm @ 1140 grams = 901
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee_PC
>>>
>>> So the 901 is 23mm x 10.3mm larger than the 700 series. Another nice
>>> thing about the 700 series is that the speakers are alongside of the
>>> screen. Which sounds a lot better than on the bottom like most other
>>> netbooks.
>>>
>> Ah, OK. I once saw someone ask if it'd be possible to put a 900 screen
>> on a 701.
>> I ass*u*med they were the same size.
>>
>> My point, that I failed to make, is that the 701 is significantly bigger
>> than 7" across diagonally. (Gets 701 and tape measure) I make it 10 and
>> 3/4 inches or 275mm in new money. I still want a 901 for the screen
>> size, the 701 either doesn't show stuff, or I have to run a virtual
>> screen scrolling prog which doesn't quite track where the screen
>> should be.
>
> Ah yes! I can definitely appreciate the larger screen. And the 9 inch
> gets you there the easy way. Although did you ever use AsTray2? As it
> uses a little known feature of downscaling (or sometimes called
> compressed mode) of Intel graphics. And I can use up to 1024x768 without
> scrolling on a 7 inch screen. And that helps a great deal when you need
> to see the whole larger desktop without scrolling.

Oh yeah... so what was the outcome of connecting up a 9 inch screen on a 
7 inch model? Electronically I think it should work ok. I don't know of 
the BIOS needs to be updated to support the higher resolution screen or 
not. But physically, it sounds like a very tight fit to me. As it seems 
so much easier to just get a real 9 inch netbook to me. ;-)

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

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#424 — Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL)

On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 13:08:53 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

> On 7/9/2011 5:37 AM, BillW50 wrote:
>> On 7/5/2011 8:15 AM, Esra Sdrawkcab wrote:
>>> On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:15:26 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In news:op.vx28coj3hswpfo@dell3100,
>>>> Esra Sdrawkcab wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:05:35 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> And it seems nobody is manufacturing 7 inch netbooks anymore. I like
>>>>>> them because they are the smallest and generally the lightest
>>>>>> netbooks. If I want larger, I use a laptop. And it seems as used 7
>>>>>> inch netbooks are getting harder and harder to find, the prices are
>>>>>> going up and not down. Now it seems yours is even worth more used
>>>>>> than it did when it was new. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that your saying it, but the 701, whilst having a 7" screen, is
>>>>> the same size ("form factor") as the 901, i.e. it's bigger than 7"
>>>>> across.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not seeing it here.
>>>>
>>>> 225mm x 165mm @ 922 grams = All 700 series
>>>> 225mm x 170mm @ 990 grams = 900
>>>> 248mm x 175.3mm @ 1140 grams = 901
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee_PC
>>>>
>>>> So the 901 is 23mm x 10.3mm larger than the 700 series. Another nice
>>>> thing about the 700 series is that the speakers are alongside of the
>>>> screen. Which sounds a lot better than on the bottom like most other
>>>> netbooks.
>>>>
>>> Ah, OK. I once saw someone ask if it'd be possible to put a 900 screen
>>> on a 701.
>>> I ass*u*med they were the same size.
>>>
>>> My point, that I failed to make, is that the 701 is significantly  
>>> bigger
>>> than 7" across diagonally. (Gets 701 and tape measure) I make it 10 and
>>> 3/4 inches or 275mm in new money. I still want a 901 for the screen
>>> size, the 701 either doesn't show stuff, or I have to run a virtual
>>> screen scrolling prog which doesn't quite track where the screen
>>> should be.
>>
>> Ah yes! I can definitely appreciate the larger screen. And the 9 inch
>> gets you there the easy way. Although did you ever use AsTray2? As it
>> uses a little known feature of downscaling (or sometimes called
>> compressed mode) of Intel graphics. And I can use up to 1024x768 without
>> scrolling on a 7 inch screen. And that helps a great deal when you need
>> to see the whole larger desktop without scrolling.
>
> Oh yeah... so what was the outcome of connecting up a 9 inch screen on a  
> 7 inch model? Electronically I think it should work ok. I don't know of  
> the BIOS needs to be updated to support the higher resolution screen or  
> not. But physically, it sounds like a very tight fit to me. As it seems  
> so much easier to just get a real 9 inch netbook to me. ;-)
>

I think that was the answer! (i.e it just ain't worth the hassle trying)

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#425 — Re: Webcam on PMT! (Pinging: AJL)

On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 11:37:58 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

> On 7/5/2011 8:15 AM, Esra Sdrawkcab wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:15:26 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>>> In news:op.vx28coj3hswpfo@dell3100,
>>> Esra Sdrawkcab wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:05:35 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And it seems nobody is manufacturing 7 inch netbooks anymore. I like
>>>>> them because they are the smallest and generally the lightest
>>>>> netbooks. If I want larger, I use a laptop. And it seems as used 7
>>>>> inch netbooks are getting harder and harder to find, the prices are
>>>>> going up and not down. Now it seems yours is even worth more used
>>>>> than it did when it was new. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Not that your saying it, but the 701, whilst having a 7" screen, is
>>>> the same size ("form factor") as the 901, i.e. it's bigger than 7"
>>>> across.
>>>
>>> I'm not seeing it here.
>>>
>>> 225mm x 165mm @ 922 grams = All 700 series
>>> 225mm x 170mm @ 990 grams = 900
>>> 248mm x 175.3mm @ 1140 grams = 901
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee_PC
>>>
>>> So the 901 is 23mm x 10.3mm larger than the 700 series. Another nice
>>> thing about the 700 series is that the speakers are alongside of the
>>> screen. Which sounds a lot better than on the bottom like most other
>>> netbooks.
>>>
>> Ah, OK. I once saw someone ask if it'd be possible to put a 900 screen
>> on a 701.
>> I ass*u*med they were the same size.
>>
>> My point, that I failed to make, is that the 701 is significantly bigger
>> than 7" across diagonally. (Gets 701 and tape measure) I make it 10 and
>> 3/4 inches or 275mm in new money. I still want a 901 for the screen
>> size, the 701 either doesn't show stuff, or I have to run a virtual
>> screen scrolling prog which doesn't quite track where the screen should  
>> be.
>
> Ah yes! I can definitely appreciate the larger screen. And the 9 inch  
> gets you there the easy way. Although did you ever use AsTray2? As it

It's a windows app?
I'm running xpud - so there should be a way.

> uses a little known feature of downscaling (or sometimes called  
> compressed mode) of Intel graphics. And I can use up to 1024x768 without  
> scrolling on a 7 inch screen. And that helps a great deal when you need  
> to see the whole larger desktop without scrolling.
>


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