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| Started by | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
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| First post | 2015-10-15 11:33 -0700 |
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cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 11:33 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2015-10-15 11:40 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 11:56 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 12:21 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 15:29 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 12:36 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 11:42 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 11:43 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 11:59 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-10-15 14:41 -0500
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 12:56 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 16:08 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 13:42 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 13:21 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-16 08:11 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-16 20:13 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-16 21:05 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 01:07 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 01:00 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-16 23:03 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 08:19 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-17 12:04 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 02:56 +0000
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:22 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 03:40 +0000
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:50 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 03:59 +0000
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-18 11:14 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-18 11:17 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2015-10-18 15:24 +0000
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-18 17:06 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2015-10-18 22:22 +0000
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-18 11:18 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 21:01 +0000
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-18 17:10 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-18 13:58 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 01:03 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-10-17 09:48 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 10:01 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-20 07:50 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 12:21 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-20 11:17 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 14:33 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-20 11:54 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-10-20 12:54 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 16:00 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 16:01 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 16:03 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-10-20 14:32 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 19:51 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 16:04 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2015-10-20 19:29 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 20:03 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-10-21 00:10 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2015-10-21 03:31 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-21 08:40 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-21 14:22 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2015-10-21 18:32 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-21 18:43 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-21 08:30 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-21 08:30 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-17 09:07 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2015-10-17 10:22 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-17 11:39 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2015-10-17 12:21 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-17 12:36 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-10-17 20:43 -0500
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2015-10-16 09:23 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-16 09:37 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2015-10-16 09:39 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-16 10:19 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-10-16 14:47 -0500
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-16 23:18 +0000
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-16 20:17 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 02:29 +0000
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:07 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 03:42 +0000
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:52 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 04:02 +0000
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-16 20:18 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 02:32 +0000
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:09 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:11 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 03:53 +0000
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:56 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 04:06 +0000
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-18 00:58 -0400
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-10-17 04:01 -0600
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-10-20 11:01 -0700
Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 14:31 -0400
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| From | DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> |
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| Date | 2015-10-21 08:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ja1f2bh1eqtm074ujd1ug9bqic8j2f8mev@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2415 |
On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:10:38 -0700, mike <ham789@netzero.net> Gave us: >It's very easy to take some experience and extrapolate it to >the point where it gets someone else in trouble. Yes, you have been trolling this Linux newsgroup for years with inane bullshit extrapolated from your bent brain.
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-17 09:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mvts4k$t5l$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #2363 |
"Caver1" <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote in message news:mvtjf4$2u6$1@dont-email.me... > On 10/16/2015 11:13 PM, Adam wrote: >> "DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno" <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote in >> message >> news:vup12b9iqlrmin16noqdrtlhmcll1p8sbv@4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:33:13 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> Gave us: >>> >>>> >>>> System: ASUS N61JQ (laptop) >>>> Host OS: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS >>>> >>>> >>>> After a power outage yesterday, pressing the power button of >>>> ASUS laptop does nothing. The laptop was/is connected to >>>> an APC battery backup (surge protection only) outlet (via AC adapter). >>>> AC adapter's green light is "on". >>>> >>>> Any ideas? >>>> >>> I did a simple google search... >>> >>> https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ASUS+N61JQ+power+requirement >>> >>> It yielded listings for where to get replacement 90W adapters, but >>> scrolling down the page shows a lot of chatroom queries surrounding >>> problems with this particular laptop and its batteries and power supply. >>> >>> It also lists the circumstances under which the failure modes are >>> occurring. >>> >>> It would appear that the battery "watchdog" circuitry Asus >>> incorporated into at least this model of their laptop line has some >>> problems. >>> >>> A slight dip in the output of the power adapter or even too much >>> ripple voltage presented by it when loaded may be what is going on. >>> >>> The new ones seemed to only be $12 to $15. It might cause less hair >>> loss to simply get a new one. It is always nice to have backup power >>> supplies in the "dongle" or "wallwart" realm anyway, since most are >>> ultrasonically sealed and unserviceable. >> >> Thanks (NumeroUno), you're right. A new AC adapter did the trick. >> Nothing else seems to be wrong with my laptop. >> >> But, the reviews for the Antec NP90 that I bought is not that great and >> was not cheap ($40+). But, it has AQ3 (3-year parts & labor) warranty. >> Any Universal 90W Notebook Power Adapter 19V recommendations? >> >> Also, how can I prevent this from happening again? >> The problem is with the power circuitry internal to the ASUS laptop, >> right? >> >> > Take a look; > > https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=ASUS+N61JQ++ac+adaptor > > http://tinyurl.com/nkdjajy > > -- > Caver1 Thanks, I was looking at... Targus 90 Watt AC Laptop Charger http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0054JE64I/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1BWZY6SABP0P&coliid=ISTHDUL7IAZ9E But, I like the PWR+ more.
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-17 10:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d8fef5Feec6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2365 |
Adam wrote: > Thanks, I was looking at... > > Targus 90 Watt AC Laptop Charger What is your diagnostic plan? You don't know that your charger is bad yet. Are you planning on buying a spare charger for testing purposes, then make more/other diagnostic efforts if that isn't the problem? -- Mike Easter
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-17 11:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mvu50d$ede$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #2366 |
"Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message news:d8fef5Feec6U1@mid.individual.net... > Adam wrote: >> Thanks, I was looking at... >> >> Targus 90 Watt AC Laptop Charger > > What is your diagnostic plan? You don't know that your charger is bad > yet. Are you planning on buying a spare charger for testing purposes, > then make more/other diagnostic efforts if that isn't the problem? Did you miss my 8:13 PM response to DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno? The problem was the power outage killed the ASUS AC adapter somehow. The laptop works fine with a new/trial AC adapter. > > -- > Mike Easter
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-17 12:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d8flekFg6rtU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2367 |
Adam wrote: > "Mike Easter" >> Adam wrote: >>> >>> Targus 90 Watt AC Laptop Charger >> >> What is your diagnostic plan? > Did you miss my 8:13 PM response to DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno? Yes. > The problem was the power outage killed the ASUS AC adapter somehow. > The laptop works fine with a new/trial AC adapter. Excellent. That is an economic fix. -- Mike Easter
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-17 12:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mvu890$kfd$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #2369 |
"Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message news:d8flekFg6rtU1@mid.individual.net... > Adam wrote: >> "Mike Easter" >>> Adam wrote: >>>> >>>> Targus 90 Watt AC Laptop Charger >>> >>> What is your diagnostic plan? > >> Did you miss my 8:13 PM response to DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno? > > Yes. > >> The problem was the power outage killed the ASUS AC adapter somehow. >> The laptop works fine with a new/trial AC adapter. > > Excellent. That is an economic fix. Thanks, yes, I'm super glad that the laptop is fine. Now, I'm looking for a "quality" AC adapter with all features (L-shaped plug/jack, 3-prong wall jack, LED indicator, long warranty, etc.) that I prefer. I don't mind the cost so much as the features. It's worth the investment. > > -- > Mike Easter
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| From | "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-17 20:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <20151017204349.3119c412@wizardstower.lan> |
| In reply to | #2370 |
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 12:36:43 -0700 "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: > It's worth the investment. Cost. It's worth the cost or the price. An investment has some slim hope of returning something of value later on, usually money. Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Barsoom Project"
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 09:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mvqtk5$9uj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2331 |
Adam wrote:
> System: ASUS N61JQ (laptop)
> Host OS: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
>
>
> After a power outage yesterday, pressing the power button of
> ASUS laptop does nothing. The laptop was/is connected to
> an APC battery backup (surge protection only) outlet (via AC adapter).
> AC adapter's green light is "on".
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
The attachments in this thread may help.
"ASUS N61JQ won't start"
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=42461
You need an account to access the attachments. The
mainboard schematic is for a member of the same family,
but might not be exactly the same as your mainboard.
(The circuit may use different component values for
65W versus 90W designs.)
The first MOSFET (one circled on a schematic page),
is an inrush limiter. If the AC adapter is "hot" and then
plugged into the barrel connector, a lot of current
would flow for a short period of time. Instead, the
inrush limiter gradually turns on the power, using an RC
circuit tied to the gate. And the inrush limiter
prevents the overcurrent inside the AC adapter
from getting tripped.
I don't see a fuse in that schematic. It's possible
if a fuse is present, it sits in front of a clamp diode.
If, somehow, reverse bias is applied to the barrel
of the power connector, the clamp diode starts to
conduct (protecting the motherboard). The fuse would be
there, so the clamp diode doesn't burn out. Otherwise,
the AC adapter has its own current limiting inside
the adapter, so doesn't really need a fuse at the
motherboard level.
What I learned from that thread, is "look for burned stuff" :-)
That's better than trying to decode that schematic...
Paul
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 09:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mvr93n$cg$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #2346 |
"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:mvqtk5$9uj$1@dont-email.me... > Adam wrote: >> System: ASUS N61JQ (laptop) >> Host OS: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS >> >> >> After a power outage yesterday, pressing the power button of >> ASUS laptop does nothing. The laptop was/is connected to >> an APC battery backup (surge protection only) outlet (via AC adapter). >> AC adapter's green light is "on". >> >> Any ideas? >> > > The attachments in this thread may help. > > "ASUS N61JQ won't start" > http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=42461 > Thanks (Guru Paul), that's such a cool website. > You need an account to access the attachments. The > mainboard schematic is for a member of the same family, > but might not be exactly the same as your mainboard. > (The circuit may use different component values for > 65W versus 90W designs.) > > The first MOSFET (one circled on a schematic page), > is an inrush limiter. If the AC adapter is "hot" and then If "hot" means to the touch, I just felt the ASUS AC adapter and it does not even feel warm. For comparison, I also felt my DELL AC adapter and it feels warm (but not hot). Both laptops are not powered "on". So, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroWhat (haha) may be onto something. Sorry, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno, I couldn't resist. :-) Where's the best chance of getting a compatible AC adapter? Fry's? Radio Shack? Other? > plugged into the barrel connector, a lot of current > would flow for a short period of time. Instead, the > inrush limiter gradually turns on the power, using an RC > circuit tied to the gate. And the inrush limiter > prevents the overcurrent inside the AC adapter > from getting tripped. > > I don't see a fuse in that schematic. It's possible > if a fuse is present, it sits in front of a clamp diode. > If, somehow, reverse bias is applied to the barrel > of the power connector, the clamp diode starts to > conduct (protecting the motherboard). The fuse would be > there, so the clamp diode doesn't burn out. Otherwise, > the AC adapter has its own current limiting inside > the adapter, so doesn't really need a fuse at the > motherboard level. > > What I learned from that thread, is "look for burned stuff" :-) > That's better than trying to decode that schematic... > > Paul I haven't disassembled the laptop yet but nothing smells burnt.
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 09:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2POdnSCQEvGytbzLnZ2dnUVZ5qidnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #2348 |
On 2015-10-16, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: > Where's the best chance of getting a compatible AC adapter? > Fry's? Radio Shack? Other? ebay. -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 10:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mvrbji$5e6$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #2349 |
"Marek Novotny" <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote in message news:2POdnSCQEvGytbzLnZ2dnUVZ5qidnZ2d@giganews.com... > On 2015-10-16, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: >> Where's the best chance of getting a compatible AC adapter? >> Fry's? Radio Shack? Other? > > ebay. I had bad experience with eBay. Seller asked me to return an item (a video card) but did not give me a refund. > > -- > Marek Novotny > https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 14:47 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <20151016144702.3b9e986b@wizardstower.lan> |
| In reply to | #2349 |
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:39:10 -0700 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > On 2015-10-16, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: > > Where's the best chance of getting a compatible AC adapter? > > Fry's? Radio Shack? Other? > > ebay. > China. Seriously, sometimes it is ridiculously cheap and quick to shop directly (online) in China (Caveat Emptor). I got replacement batteries for my PengPod in less than a week for less than I would have paid locally /IF/ they had even been available, which they were not. Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Barsoom Project"
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 23:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mvs0ke$ku3$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2351 |
In comp.sys.laptops Cybe R. Wizard <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower.invalid> wrote: > On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:39:10 -0700 > Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > >> On 2015-10-16, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: >> > Where's the best chance of getting a compatible AC adapter? >> > Fry's? Radio Shack? Other? >> >> ebay. >> > China. > > Seriously, sometimes it is ridiculously cheap and quick to shop > directly (online) in China (Caveat Emptor). I got replacement batteries > for my PengPod in less than a week for less than I would have paid > locally /IF/ they had even been available, which they were not. Though it should be noted that you take your life into your hands with some of the cheap power supplies that come out of that country, not to mention the life of your equipment. Poor rectification, filtering, regulation etc. threaten your stuff, dirt cheap components and track spacing (distance between mains and low voltage parts on the circuit board) threaten your life if it picks the wrong time to go wrong. That said, if there's suspicion that the original ASUS power supply had issues as well, I'm not sure exactly what to recommend without looking into it deeper. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 20:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <9r432btke2a490a4n8nc4aj61b2nkaari6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2352 |
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 23:18:40 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) Gave us: >Though it should be noted that you take your life into your hands with >some of the cheap power supplies that come out of that country, not to >mention the life of your equipment. You would have a hard time finding supplies in the COTS market these days that were not made there. So you must not be as all nerded up as you would like folks to think.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2015-10-18 02:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mvv065$3hk$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2353 |
In comp.sys.laptops DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@decadentlinuxuser.org> wrote: > On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 23:18:40 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid > (Computer Nerd Kev) Gave us: > On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:39:10 -0700 > Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > >> On 2015-10-16, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: >> > Where's the best chance of getting a compatible AC adapter? >> > Fry's? Radio Shack? Other? >> >>>>> ebay. >>>> >>>> China. >>>> >>> Seriously, sometimes it is ridiculously cheap and quick to shop >>> directly (online) in China (Caveat Emptor). I got replacement batteries >>> for my PengPod in less than a week for less than I would have paid >>> locally IF they had even been available, which they were not. >>> >>Though it should be noted that you take your life into your hands with >>some of the cheap power supplies that come out of that country, not to >>mention the life of your equipment. > > You would have a hard time finding supplies in the COTS market these > days that were not made there. So you must not be as all nerded up as > you would like folks to think. As I read the thread, the recommendation was for the OP to buy a power supply directly from China via an Ebay listing. Fake OEM power supplies as well as honest knock-offs from China litter Ebay listings for replacement power supplies and many have the issues I mentioned. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> |
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| Date | 2015-10-17 23:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <m4362bhf1j55r8bp021l8vrqadkq1d533n@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2372 |
On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 02:29:27 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) Gave us: >In comp.sys.laptops DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@decadentlinuxuser.org> wrote: >> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 23:18:40 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid >> (Computer Nerd Kev) Gave us: >> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:39:10 -0700 >> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-10-16, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: >>> > Where's the best chance of getting a compatible AC adapter? >>> > Fry's? Radio Shack? Other? >>> >>>>>> ebay. >>>>> >>>>> China. >>>>> >>>> Seriously, sometimes it is ridiculously cheap and quick to shop >>>> directly (online) in China (Caveat Emptor). I got replacement batteries >>>> for my PengPod in less than a week for less than I would have paid >>>> locally IF they had even been available, which they were not. >>>> >>>Though it should be noted that you take your life into your hands with >>>some of the cheap power supplies that come out of that country, not to >>>mention the life of your equipment. >> >> You would have a hard time finding supplies in the COTS market these >> days that were not made there. So you must not be as all nerded up as >> you would like folks to think. > >As I read the thread, the recommendation was for the OP to buy a power >supply directly from China via an Ebay listing. Fake OEM power >supplies as well as honest knock-offs from China litter Ebay listings >for replacement power supplies and many have the issues I mentioned. Even legitimate, direct from the maker supplies are made IN CHINA. Jeez, can you really be that much in the dark?
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2015-10-18 03:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mvv4fj$9sn$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2375 |
In comp.sys.laptops DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@decadentlinuxuser.org> wrote: > On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 02:29:27 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid > (Computer Nerd Kev) Gave us: > >>In comp.sys.laptops DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@decadentlinuxuser.org> wrote: >>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 23:18:40 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid >>> (Computer Nerd Kev) Gave us: >>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:39:10 -0700 >>> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-10-16, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: >>>> > Where's the best chance of getting a compatible AC adapter? >>>> > Fry's? Radio Shack? Other? >>>> >>>>>>> ebay. >>>>>> >>>>>> China. >>>>>> >>>>> Seriously, sometimes it is ridiculously cheap and quick to shop >>>>> directly (online) in China (Caveat Emptor). I got replacement batteries >>>>> for my PengPod in less than a week for less than I would have paid >>>>> locally IF they had even been available, which they were not. >>>>> >>>>Though it should be noted that you take your life into your hands with >>>>some of the cheap power supplies that come out of that country, not to >>>>mention the life of your equipment. >>> >>> You would have a hard time finding supplies in the COTS market these >>> days that were not made there. So you must not be as all nerded up as >>> you would like folks to think. >> >>As I read the thread, the recommendation was for the OP to buy a power >>supply directly from China via an Ebay listing. Fake OEM power >>supplies as well as honest knock-offs from China litter Ebay listings >>for replacement power supplies and many have the issues I mentioned. > > Even legitimate, direct from the maker supplies are made IN CHINA. > > Jeez, can you really be that much in the dark? Of course not, I'm making it clear that I'm talking about the cheap power supplies advertised on EBAY in China, most of which are not genuine OEM products, regardless of whether the genuine OEM product is also made in China. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> |
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| Date | 2015-10-17 23:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oq562b958gjp8tdc54ig436pcctcsa6656@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2380 |
On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 03:42:46 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) Gave us: >Of course not, I'm making it clear that I'm talking about the cheap >power supplies advertised on EBAY in China, most of which are not >genuine OEM products, regardless of whether the genuine OEM product >is also made in China. I never said a damned thing about using a supply that has been falsely labeled as an OEM replacement.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2015-10-18 04:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mvv5jv$b8p$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2383 |
In comp.sys.laptops DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@decadentlinuxuser.org> wrote: > On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 03:42:46 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid > (Computer Nerd Kev) Gave us: > >>Of course not, I'm making it clear that I'm talking about the cheap >>power supplies advertised on EBAY in China, most of which are not >>genuine OEM products, regardless of whether the genuine OEM product >>is also made in China. > > I never said a damned thing about using a supply that has been falsely > labeled as an OEM replacement. I know you didn't. I was the one talking about non OEM products and you replied under some strange assumption that I was talking about all power supplies that are made in China. I wasn't. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 20:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <au432bpvp8p09t9rel1f1bmcu30q8c44jt@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2352 |
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 23:18:40 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) Gave us: >That said, if there's suspicion that the original ASUS power supply >had issues as well, I'm not sure exactly what to recommend without >looking into it deeper. Just where is it you think ASUS gets their supplies made?
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