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  New to laptops Adam <adam@address.invalid> - 2012-12-17 17:24 -0500
    Re: New to laptops Maurice Batey <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2012-12-18 16:49 +0000
      Re: New to laptops "Frank Berger" <frankdberger@gmail.com> - 2012-12-18 12:03 -0500
        Re: New to laptops Adam <adam@address.invalid> - 2012-12-18 19:35 -0500
          Re: New to laptops mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2012-12-18 18:17 -0800
            Re: New to laptops Adam <adam@address.invalid> - 2012-12-19 02:53 -0500
            Re: New to laptops Mark <i@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> - 2012-12-19 10:52 +0000
              Re: New to laptops "tb" <nospam@example.invalid> - 2012-12-19 23:10 +0000
      Re: New to laptops Adam <adam@address.invalid> - 2012-12-18 19:35 -0500
      Re: New to laptops Maurice Batey <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2012-12-27 12:49 +0000
        Re: New to laptops Adam <adam@address.invalid> - 2012-12-31 14:26 -0500
          Re: New to laptops wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2013-01-02 21:27 +0000
            Re: New to laptops Adam <adam@address.invalid> - 2013-01-02 20:03 -0500

#1711 — New to laptops

Hi everyone!  I'm familiar with desktop systems, but I just got my first 
laptop (IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad T60 refurbished -- holiday gift to myself!) 
and I feel almost like a newbie again.  Would anyone be able to post 
some nice links that explain -- well, just about anything that an 
experienced desktop user wouldn't know, either generally or specific to 
ThinkPads or my T60.  Everything from choosing a case/backpack/pouch to 
securing my data, and how to connect to public Wi-Fi (I know how to 
connect to my own) to good sources of accessories and information.  I've 
set it up as multiboot, Windows XP and Linux, and expect to use it at my 
home, public Wi-Fi sites, and at a few friends' homes.  Thanks VERY much 
in advance!

Adam
-- 
Registered Linux User #536473

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#1712

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:24:10 -0500, Adam wrote:

> how to connect to public Wi-Fi (I know how to connect to my own)
> to good sources of accessories and information.  I've set it up as
> multiboot, Windows XP and Linux, and expect to use it at my home, public
> Wi-Fi sites, and at a few friends' homes.

  I've used my Tosh all over Europe and on cruise ships.
The method of connecting away from home is essentially the same as the
first time you connected at home:

   (1) Select the desired SSID from whatever list appears
          (Away from home, you need to ask the establishment providing
            the connection which SSID to select.)

    (2) Most likely you will need to ask for the connect code.

On the other hand, sometimes you have to start your browser, which will
automatically present the host's Connect page, where you just follow the
instructions.
  When checking in at a hotel, ask if they have WiFi (and check if
there is a charge!), and if so ask for the connect key/code.

WiFI reception can vary in  e.g. hotels. At one in France, I couild get
no signal in the room, but if I went out onto the landing and put the
laptop on top of the piano, I did!

-- 
/\/\aurice
(Replace "nomail.afraid" by "bcs" to reply by email)

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#1713

Maurice Batey wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:24:10 -0500, Adam wrote:
>
>> how to connect to public Wi-Fi (I know how to connect to my own)
>> to good sources of accessories and information.  I've set it up as
>> multiboot, Windows XP and Linux, and expect to use it at my home,
>> public Wi-Fi sites, and at a few friends' homes.
>
>  I've used my Tosh all over Europe and on cruise ships.
> The method of connecting away from home is essentially the same as the
> first time you connected at home:
>
>   (1) Select the desired SSID from whatever list appears
>          (Away from home, you need to ask the establishment providing
>            the connection which SSID to select.)
>
>    (2) Most likely you will need to ask for the connect code.
>
> On the other hand, sometimes you have to start your browser, which
> will automatically present the host's Connect page, where you just
> follow the instructions.
>  When checking in at a hotel, ask if they have WiFi (and check if
> there is a charge!), and if so ask for the connect key/code.
>
> WiFI reception can vary in  e.g. hotels. At one in France, I couild
> get no signal in the room, but if I went out onto the landing and put
> the laptop on top of the piano, I did!

Also to remember that there's less security when connected to a public web 
site than you likely have at home. 

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#1715

Frank Berger wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:24:10 -0500, Adam wrote:
>>
>>> how to connect to public Wi-Fi (I know how to connect to my own)
>
> Also to remember that there's less security when connected to a public
> web site than you likely have at home.

Yes, I'll have to keep reminding myself.  No shopping from the laptop 
(or anything else with personal info I don't want shared)... that'll 
have to wait until I get back home.  :-)

Adam
-- 
Registered Linux User #536473

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#1716

On 12/18/2012 4:35 PM, Adam wrote:
> Frank Berger wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:24:10 -0500, Adam wrote:
>>>
>>>> how to connect to public Wi-Fi (I know how to connect to my own)
>>
>> Also to remember that there's less security when connected to a public
>> web site than you likely have at home.
>
> Yes, I'll have to keep reminding myself. No shopping from the laptop (or
> anything else with personal info I don't want shared)... that'll have to
> wait until I get back home. :-)
>
> Adam
Single use credit card numbers.

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#1717

mike wrote:
> On 12/18/2012 4:35 PM, Adam wrote:
>>> Also to remember that there's less security when connected to a public
>>> web site than you likely have at home.
>>
>> Yes, I'll have to keep reminding myself. No shopping from the laptop (or
>> anything else with personal info I don't want shared)... that'll have to
>> wait until I get back home. :-)
>>
> Single use credit card numbers.

Thanks, Mike!  I hadn't thought of that.

Adam

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#1718

On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:17:04 -0800, mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote:

>On 12/18/2012 4:35 PM, Adam wrote:
>> Frank Berger wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:24:10 -0500, Adam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> how to connect to public Wi-Fi (I know how to connect to my own)
>>>
>>> Also to remember that there's less security when connected to a public
>>> web site than you likely have at home.
>>
>> Yes, I'll have to keep reminding myself. No shopping from the laptop (or
>> anything else with personal info I don't want shared)... that'll have to
>> wait until I get back home. :-)
>>
>> Adam
>Single use credit card numbers.

Do they exist?
-- 
(\__/)  M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?

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#1719

On 12/19/2012 at 4:52:33 AM Mark wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:17:04 -0800, mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Do they exist?

If you live in the USA, look into Discover Card Secure Online Account
Numbers:
https://www.discover.com/credit-cards/member-benefits/security/web-online-account-number.html

Unfortunately, not every online retailer accepts Discover Card but Bank
of America's Visa/MasterCard card has a similar program:
https://www.bankofamerica.com/privacy/accounts-cards/shopsafe.go

-- 
tb

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#1714

Maurice Batey wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:24:10 -0500, Adam wrote:

Hi Maurice!  It's nice to see a name I recognize here (from a.o.l.mandriva).

>> how to connect to public Wi-Fi (I know how to connect to my own)
>
>    I've used my Tosh all over Europe and on cruise ships.
> The method of connecting away from home is essentially the same as the
> first time you connected at home:
>
>     (1) Select the desired SSID from whatever list appears
>            (Away from home, you need to ask the establishment providing
>              the connection which SSID to select.)
>
>      (2) Most likely you will need to ask for the connect code.

Thanks!  That sounds straightforward enough, and I'm sure it will be 
after the initial confusion. :-)

> WiFI reception can vary in  e.g. hotels. At one in France, I could get
> no signal in the room, but if I went out onto the landing and put the
> laptop on top of the piano, I did!

Unfortunately I don't get to hotels or cruise ships very often, but I 
had that same problem with my cell phone at home until I switched to a 
provider with better coverage.

Adam
-- 
Registered Linux User #536473

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#1724

On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:49:07 +0000, I wrote:

> I've used my Tosh all over Europe and on cruise ships.

  If you have a gmail address, there can be an additional problem when
trying to fetch gmail and/or login to gmail.com when out of the UK.

We struck this in the Greek Islands in September.
  Although I had no problems fetching email from my ISP's POP server,
the SO was unable to do so from the gmail POP server (or login to
gmail.com).

I found later that this was gmail's 'Overseas' security wall, and to get
through it one needs either an extra one-time login password or a strong
POP/SMTP server password, all available only via the Security option in
one's Gmail account (when in the UK).

Separate from all that, sometimes when trying to use Port 25 to access
an SMTP server, one needs to change from the blocked 25 to 587.
-- 
/\/\aurice
(Replace "nomail.afraid" by "bcs" to reply by email)

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#1727

Maurice Batey wrote:
>> I've used my Tosh all over Europe and on cruise ships.
>
>    If you have a gmail address, there can be an additional problem when
> trying to fetch gmail and/or login to gmail.com when out of the UK.

Thanks, Maurice!  I'm in the USA, but I'll keep that in mind should I 
get to visit other countries.  I suppose some other email providers may 
also have similar security restrictions when out of one's home country.

> Separate from all that, sometimes when trying to use Port 25 to access
> an SMTP server, one needs to change from the blocked 25 to 587.

It looks like many SMTP servers have switched from port 25 to something 
else.  I also have some set for 465 and 995 IIRC.

Adam
-- 
Registered Linux User #536473

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#1728

In article <kbsosb$f5o$1@dont-email.me>, Adam  <adam@address.invalid> wrote:
>Maurice Batey wrote:
>
>It looks like many SMTP servers have switched from port 25 to something 
>else.  I also have some set for 465 and 995 IIRC.
>

	I pick a random port at boot and make my users run nmap to find it.

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#1729

the wharf rat wrote:
>> Maurice Batey wrote:
>>
>> It looks like many SMTP servers have switched from port 25 to something
>> else.  I also have some set for 465 and 995 IIRC.
>
> 	I pick a random port at boot and make my users run nmap to find it.

That sounds like security at the expense of alienating users. :-)

Adam
-- 
Registered Linux User #536473

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