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EFI system partition problem.....

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  EFI system partition problem..... agodin10@hotmail.com - 2011-07-28 14:44 -0700
    Re: EFI system partition problem..... Tazz <dmswaine@gmail.com> - 2011-07-28 21:10 -0300
      Re: EFI system partition problem..... agodin10@hotmail.com - 2011-07-29 09:36 -0700
        Re: EFI system partition problem..... BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-29 12:13 -0500
        Re: EFI system partition problem..... wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2011-07-30 07:18 +0000
      Re: EFI system partition problem..... BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-29 15:28 -0500
        Re: EFI system partition problem..... Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> - 2011-07-29 20:35 +0000
          Re: EFI system partition problem..... BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-29 17:23 -0500
            Re: EFI system partition problem..... Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> - 2011-07-29 23:20 +0000
              Re: EFI system partition problem..... BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-29 18:53 -0500
            Re: EFI system partition problem..... "olfart" <olfart65@excite.com> - 2011-07-30 04:48 -0400
              Re: EFI system partition problem..... "olfart" <olfart65@excite.com> - 2011-07-30 09:05 -0400
                Re: EFI system partition problem..... BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-30 11:42 -0500
              Re: EFI system partition problem..... BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-30 11:42 -0500
                Re: EFI system partition problem..... "olfart" <olfart65@excite.com> - 2011-07-30 13:33 -0400
                  Re: EFI system partition problem..... BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-30 13:43 -0500
            Re: EFI system partition problem..... "Esra Sdrawkcab" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2011-07-31 19:57 +0100
              Re: EFI system partition problem..... wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2011-07-31 23:01 +0000
                Re: EFI system partition problem..... "~misfit~" <sore_n_happy@nospamyahoo.com.au> - 2011-08-03 12:01 +1200
    Re: EFI system partition problem..... "RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> - 2011-08-02 08:55 -0500
      Re: EFI system partition problem..... "RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> - 2011-08-02 08:57 -0500

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#457 — EFI system partition problem.....

Fromagodin10@hotmail.com
Date2011-07-28 14:44 -0700
SubjectEFI system partition problem.....
Message-ID<ebc38f3c-82bb-486a-8b1c-bea85b061488@m18g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>
hi....im using windows 7 ultimate on ibm x61....i want to clone my
80gb hd to 160gb hd......problem is when i look at my hd in disk
management i see my C partition with the os and files on... next there
is a 32mb EFI partition......when i clone the C partition to my 160gb
hd i get the 74.50 gb NTFS C partition and the EFI
partition.......then when i go into disk management i cant expand the
C partition volume because the EFI partition is blocking it....how do
i move or delete this EFI partition...i tried in diskpart but cant see
the EFI partition.......thanks for any help.....

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#458

FromTazz <dmswaine@gmail.com>
Date2011-07-28 21:10 -0300
Message-ID<4e31fa63$0$1951$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net>
In reply to#457
On 28/07/2011 6:44 PM, agodin10@hotmail.com wrote:
> hi....im using windows 7 ultimate on ibm x61....i want to clone my
> 80gb hd to 160gb hd......problem is when i look at my hd in disk
> management i see my C partition with the os and files on... next there
> is a 32mb EFI partition......when i clone the C partition to my 160gb
> hd i get the 74.50 gb NTFS C partition and the EFI
> partition.......then when i go into disk management i cant expand the
> C partition volume because the EFI partition is blocking it....how do
> i move or delete this EFI partition...i tried in diskpart but cant see
> the EFI partition.......thanks for any help.....

What program are you using to clone the disk and who manufactures the 
new drive?

Some manufacturers have their "own" free hdd clone program. WD and 
Seagate come to mind. They are both based on Acronis. I *think* they 
work this way: The free Seagate program will create an image of whatever 
partition on whatever brand drive (it shows all my partitions on all 
four of my various drives) but it will ONLY write the image to a Seagate 
hdd. The same for WD I guess. Check with website of the manufacturer of 
your new drive to see what they offer.

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#463

Fromagodin10@hotmail.com
Date2011-07-29 09:36 -0700
Message-ID<170498e2-8f17-44d5-96a1-4c2aea600836@cf8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#458
On Jul 28, 5:10 pm, Tazz <dmswa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 28/07/2011 6:44 PM, agodi...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > hi....im using windows 7 ultimate on ibm x61....i want to clone my
> > 80gb hd to 160gb hd......problem is when i look at my hd in disk
> > management i see my C partition with the os and files on... next there
> > is a 32mb EFI partition......when i clone the C partition to my 160gb
> > hd i get the 74.50 gb NTFS C partition and the EFI
> > partition.......then when i go into disk management i cant expand the
> > C partition volume because the EFI partition is blocking it....how do
> > i move or delete this EFI partition...i tried in diskpart but cant see
> > the EFI partition.......thanks for any help.....
>
> What program are you using to clone the disk and who manufactures the
> new drive?
>
> Some manufacturers have their "own" free hdd clone program. WD and
> Seagate come to mind. They are both based on Acronis. I *think* they
> work this way: The free Seagate program will create an image of whatever
> partition on whatever brand drive (it shows all my partitions on all
> four of my various drives) but it will ONLY write the image to a Seagate
> hdd. The same for WD I guess. Check with website of the manufacturer of
> your new drive to see what they offer.

hi...thanks for relpy....i dont have any problem cloning the drive but
when i install the larger hd i cant expand the volume of the C
partition because the EFI partition is still there,,,,, so on my
larger hd i get the original C partition then the EFI 32 MB partition
then the extra free space on the larger hd.......i cant expand the C
partition into the free space because the EFI  partition is in the
middle...the EFI partion has no drive letter so i cant move it or
delete it.....thanks

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#464

FromBillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom>
Date2011-07-29 12:13 -0500
Message-ID<j0upn6$m1n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#463
On 7/29/2011 11:36 AM, agodin10@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 28, 5:10 pm, Tazz<dmswa...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> On 28/07/2011 6:44 PM, agodi...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> hi....im using windows 7 ultimate on ibm x61....i want to clone my
>>> 80gb hd to 160gb hd......problem is when i look at my hd in disk
>>> management i see my C partition with the os and files on... next there
>>> is a 32mb EFI partition......when i clone the C partition to my 160gb
>>> hd i get the 74.50 gb NTFS C partition and the EFI
>>> partition.......then when i go into disk management i cant expand the
>>> C partition volume because the EFI partition is blocking it....how do
>>> i move or delete this EFI partition...i tried in diskpart but cant see
>>> the EFI partition.......thanks for any help.....
>>
>> What program are you using to clone the disk and who manufactures the
>> new drive?
>>
>> Some manufacturers have their "own" free hdd clone program. WD and
>> Seagate come to mind. They are both based on Acronis. I *think* they
>> work this way: The free Seagate program will create an image of whatever
>> partition on whatever brand drive (it shows all my partitions on all
>> four of my various drives) but it will ONLY write the image to a Seagate
>> hdd. The same for WD I guess. Check with website of the manufacturer of
>> your new drive to see what they offer.
>
> hi...thanks for relpy....i dont have any problem cloning the drive but
> when i install the larger hd i cant expand the volume of the C
> partition because the EFI partition is still there,,,,, so on my
> larger hd i get the original C partition then the EFI 32 MB partition
> then the extra free space on the larger hd.......i cant expand the C
> partition into the free space because the EFI  partition is in the
> middle...the EFI partion has no drive letter so i cant move it or
> delete it.....thanks

Well trying to delete this partition under Windows 7 will probably be 
next to impossible. Booting from the Windows 7 DVD should have utilities 
that should be able to handle it I believe.

If not, there are other CD boot utilities like Paragon Partition Manager 
(there is a free version too) and EaseUS Partition Master (also free). 
Or use your favorite partitioning boot CD to do the job. Don't even try 
to delete it under Windows.

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

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#470

Fromwrat@panix.com (the wharf rat)
Date2011-07-30 07:18 +0000
Message-ID<j10b83$nbl$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#463
In article <170498e2-8f17-44d5-96a1-4c2aea600836@cf8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
 <agodin10@hotmail.com> wrote:
>when i install the larger hd i cant expand the volume of the C
>partition because the EFI partition is still there,,,,, so on my

	Sigh.

	Create a small partition equal in size to the EFI partition
in the free space starting at ( (last block) - (number of blocks in EFI) ).
Clone the EFI partition to this new partition.  Delete old EFI.  Add
free space to C:.



	"And on the 8th day,  God created the system administrator,
told him to go forth and make sure the internet stayed up, then flew off
to an executive summit on Maui."

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#465

FromBillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom>
Date2011-07-29 15:28 -0500
Message-ID<j0v55c$5je$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#458
On 7/28/2011 7:10 PM, Tazz wrote:
> On 28/07/2011 6:44 PM, agodin10@hotmail.com wrote:
>> hi....im using windows 7 ultimate on ibm x61....i want to clone my
>> 80gb hd to 160gb hd......problem is when i look at my hd in disk
>> management i see my C partition with the os and files on... next there
>> is a 32mb EFI partition......when i clone the C partition to my 160gb
>> hd i get the 74.50 gb NTFS C partition and the EFI
>> partition.......then when i go into disk management i cant expand the
>> C partition volume because the EFI partition is blocking it....how do
>> i move or delete this EFI partition...i tried in diskpart but cant see
>> the EFI partition.......thanks for any help.....
>
> What program are you using to clone the disk and who manufactures the
> new drive?
>
> Some manufacturers have their "own" free hdd clone program. WD and
> Seagate come to mind. They are both based on Acronis. I *think* they
> work this way: The free Seagate program will create an image of whatever
> partition on whatever brand drive (it shows all my partitions on all
> four of my various drives) but it will ONLY write the image to a Seagate
> hdd. The same for WD I guess. Check with website of the manufacturer of
> your new drive to see what they offer.

Acronis True Image (has a 15 day trial version available)
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/

Acronis True Image Seagate Edition (DiscWizard)
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/discwizard

Acronis True Image WD Edition
http://support.wdc.com/product/downloaddetail.asp?swid=119&type=download&wdc_lang=en

Paragon DriveBackup Express (free)
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/

XXClone, A New Way of Cloning the Windows System Disk (free)
http://www.xxclone.com/

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

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#466

FromBert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com>
Date2011-07-29 20:35 +0000
Message-ID<Xns9F319E8A28C31VeebleFetzer@216.250.188.141>
In reply to#465
In news:j0v55c$5je$1@dont-email.me BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

> Acronis True Image (has a 15 day trial version available)
> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/

Last time I looked, the trial version was fully functional, so if you
move fast ... 

Still, I paid for it and use it for my nightly backups :-)

-- 
Bert Hyman	St. Paul, MN	bert@iphouse.com

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#467

FromBillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom>
Date2011-07-29 17:23 -0500
Message-ID<j0vbs9$hl2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#466
On 7/29/2011 3:35 PM, Bert Hyman wrote:
> In news:j0v55c$5je$1@dont-email.me BillW50<BillW50@aol.kom>  wrote:
>
>> Acronis True Image (has a 15 day trial version available)
>> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/
>
> Last time I looked, the trial version was fully functional, so if you
> move fast ...
>
> Still, I paid for it and use it for my nightly backups :-)

I bought Acronis True Image 2009 and 2011 and I hate both of them. And 
not too much difference between the two versions actually. Acronis True 
Image for many years has had problems with some USB controllers. Oh they 
backup to any of them just fine. Just when restoring they can't find 
some of the drives. Some others, some days they can see them and 
sometimes they can't. Not good at all.

I also use Paragon products and they are about the same as Acronis True 
Image. Although no USB controller problem. Paragon full backups are 
fine, but incremental backups takes forever (much longer than a full 
backup actually). Acronis True Image is far better for incremental. 
Otherwise not much of a difference.

Nowadays I only use Acronis True Image just for cloning. And Acronis 
True Image can't clone live (under Windows). Although Paragon and 
XXClone can and does. Nowadays I don't make backups, but I clone instead 
and use the clone drives. I have about 5 drives that I rotate.

I didn't think XXClone was going to be too good, but I was surprised how 
well it works and it is only 1.6MB in size. The commercial version will 
also do incremental cloning which is like unheard of. And unlike Acronis 
True Image and Paragon, has nothing running in the background when the 
application isn't running.

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

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#468

FromBert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com>
Date2011-07-29 23:20 +0000
Message-ID<Xns9F31BA8B1B5F7VeebleFetzer@216.250.188.141>
In reply to#467
In news:j0vbs9$hl2$1@dont-email.me BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

> Nowadays I only use Acronis True Image just for cloning. And Acronis 
> True Image can't clone live (under Windows). 

The idea of trying to clone an active drive is just too creepy to
contemplate. 

-- 
Bert Hyman	St. Paul, MN	bert@iphouse.com

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#469

FromBillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom>
Date2011-07-29 18:53 -0500
Message-ID<j0vh5h$ja3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#468
On 7/29/2011 6:20 PM, Bert Hyman wrote:
> In news:j0vbs9$hl2$1@dont-email.me BillW50<BillW50@aol.kom>  wrote:
>
>> Nowadays I only use Acronis True Image just for cloning. And Acronis
>> True Image can't clone live (under Windows).
>
> The idea of trying to clone an active drive is just too creepy to
> contemplate.

Yes, that is why run off of the clone drive to make sure everything is 
just fine. If something is wrong, I always have the original. And 
checking the XXClone log this last time, like 34 files failed to copy. 
And they were all active (open) temps and log files. Which is no big 
deal for a cloned copy. I am really impressed by both Paragon and 
XXClone ability to clone an active drive. When I am not cloning an 
active drive, I am still use Acronis True Image to clone.

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

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#473

From"olfart" <olfart65@excite.com>
Date2011-07-30 04:48 -0400
Message-ID<j10ggo$n07$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#467
"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message 
news:j0vbs9$hl2$1@dont-email.me...
> On 7/29/2011 3:35 PM, Bert Hyman wrote:
>> In news:j0v55c$5je$1@dont-email.me BillW50<BillW50@aol.kom>  wrote:
>>
>>> Acronis True Image (has a 15 day trial version available)
>>> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/
>>
>> Last time I looked, the trial version was fully functional, so if you
>> move fast ...
>>
>> Still, I paid for it and use it for my nightly backups :-)
>
> I bought Acronis True Image 2009 and 2011 and I hate both of them. And not 
> too much difference between the two versions actually. Acronis True Image 
> for many years has had problems with some USB controllers. Oh they backup 
> to any of them just fine. Just when restoring they can't find some of the 
> drives. Some others, some days they can see them and sometimes they can't. 
> Not good at all.
>
> I also use Paragon products and they are about the same as Acronis True 
> Image. Although no USB controller problem. Paragon full backups are fine, 
> but incremental backups takes forever (much longer than a full backup 
> actually). Acronis True Image is far better for incremental. Otherwise not 
> much of a difference.
>
> Nowadays I only use Acronis True Image just for cloning. And Acronis True 
> Image can't clone live (under Windows). Although Paragon and XXClone can 
> and does. Nowadays I don't make backups, but I clone instead and use the 
> clone drives. I have about 5 drives that I rotate.
>
> I didn't think XXClone was going to be too good, but I was surprised how 
> well it works and it is only 1.6MB in size. The commercial version will 
> also do incremental cloning which is like unheard of. And unlike Acronis 
> True Image and Paragon, has nothing running in the background when the 
> application isn't running.
>
been using Casper for years and it's saved my butt more than once. My main 
box runs 2 500g drives and I have 2 500 gb drives in a USB enlosure. I can 
backup (clone) both drives in about 5 minutes so usually do it at shutdown 
each night. 100% good copies every time with one click of the mouse. Works 
great on my 3 Desktops and 2 Laptops, but use Paragon for my eePC since HD 
can't be swapped. 

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#474

From"olfart" <olfart65@excite.com>
Date2011-07-30 09:05 -0400
Message-ID<j10viu$qhe$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#473
"olfart" <olfart65@excite.com> wrote in message 
news:j10ggo$n07$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message 
> news:j0vbs9$hl2$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 7/29/2011 3:35 PM, Bert Hyman wrote:
>>> In news:j0v55c$5je$1@dont-email.me BillW50<BillW50@aol.kom>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Acronis True Image (has a 15 day trial version available)
>>>> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/
>>>
>>> Last time I looked, the trial version was fully functional, so if you
>>> move fast ...
>>>
>>> Still, I paid for it and use it for my nightly backups :-)
>>
>> I bought Acronis True Image 2009 and 2011 and I hate both of them. And 
>> not too much difference between the two versions actually. Acronis True 
>> Image for many years has had problems with some USB controllers. Oh they 
>> backup to any of them just fine. Just when restoring they can't find some 
>> of the drives. Some others, some days they can see them and sometimes 
>> they can't. Not good at all.
>>
>> I also use Paragon products and they are about the same as Acronis True 
>> Image. Although no USB controller problem. Paragon full backups are fine, 
>> but incremental backups takes forever (much longer than a full backup 
>> actually). Acronis True Image is far better for incremental. Otherwise 
>> not much of a difference.
>>
>> Nowadays I only use Acronis True Image just for cloning. And Acronis True 
>> Image can't clone live (under Windows). Although Paragon and XXClone can 
>> and does. Nowadays I don't make backups, but I clone instead and use the 
>> clone drives. I have about 5 drives that I rotate.
>>
>> I didn't think XXClone was going to be too good, but I was surprised how 
>> well it works and it is only 1.6MB in size. The commercial version will 
>> also do incremental cloning which is like unheard of. And unlike Acronis 
>> True Image and Paragon, has nothing running in the background when the 
>> application isn't running.
>>
> been using Casper for years and it's saved my butt more than once. My main 
> box runs 2 500g drives and I have 2 500 gb drives in a USB enlosure. I can 
> backup (clone) both drives in about 5 minutes so usually do it at shutdown 
> each night. 100% good copies every time with one click of the mouse. Works 
> great on my 3 Desktops and 2 Laptops, but use Paragon for my eePC since HD 
> can't be swapped.
forgot to add the fact that with Casper you can set/change the size of the 
partitions on the target drive when you clone ...which might solve the OP's 
problem 

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#475

FromBillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom>
Date2011-07-30 11:42 -0500
Message-ID<j11c8q$39u$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#474
On 7/30/2011 8:05 AM, olfart wrote:
> forgot to add the fact that with Casper you can set/change the size of the
> partitions on the target drive when you clone ...which might solve the OP's
> problem

I heard a lot of people mention this about their favorite software. 
Although I haven't seen any software in the past 10 years that doesn't 
do this.

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

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#476

FromBillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom>
Date2011-07-30 11:42 -0500
Message-ID<j11c92$39u$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#473
On 7/30/2011 3:48 AM, olfart wrote:
> been using Casper for years and it's saved my butt more than once. My main
> box runs 2 500g drives and I have 2 500 gb drives in a USB enlosure. I can
> backup (clone) both drives in about 5 minutes so usually do it at shutdown
> each night. 100% good copies every time with one click of the mouse. Works
> great on my 3 Desktops and 2 Laptops, but use Paragon for my eePC since HD
> can't be swapped.

You can clone 1TB in 5 minutes over USB2? Surely you must be taking 
about an incremental backups right? As it takes me about an hour per 
100GB. Thus 1TB would take me about 10 hours over USB2.

I had to quit using Paragon with my EeePCs. Oh it backs up through 
Windows just fine. Although restoring with the Paragon Linux boot CD 
doesn't fit the 800x480 screen. And there was no way to shift things 
around. Also I don't believe an external monitor works in this case 
since I seem to remember the external monitor is locked at the same 
resolution. I never tried the Paragon WinPE boot CD. Maybe that one 
would work just fine.

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

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#477

From"olfart" <olfart65@excite.com>
Date2011-07-30 13:33 -0400
Message-ID<j11fa2$1hc$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#476
"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message 
news:j11c92$39u$2@dont-email.me...
> On 7/30/2011 3:48 AM, olfart wrote:
>> been using Casper for years and it's saved my butt more than once. My 
>> main
>> box runs 2 500g drives and I have 2 500 gb drives in a USB enlosure. I 
>> can
>> backup (clone) both drives in about 5 minutes so usually do it at 
>> shutdown
>> each night. 100% good copies every time with one click of the mouse. 
>> Works
>> great on my 3 Desktops and 2 Laptops, but use Paragon for my eePC since 
>> HD
>> can't be swapped.
>
> You can clone 1TB in 5 minutes over USB2? Surely you must be taking about 
> an incremental backups right? As it takes me about an hour per 100GB. Thus 
> 1TB would take me about 10 hours over USB2.
>
> I had to quit using Paragon with my EeePCs. Oh it backs up through Windows 
> just fine. Although restoring with the Paragon Linux boot CD doesn't fit 
> the 800x480 screen. And there was no way to shift things around. Also I 
> don't believe an external monitor works in this case since I seem to 
> remember the external monitor is locked at the same resolution. I never 
> tried the Paragon WinPE boot CD. Maybe that one would work just fine.
>
> -- 
Casper has a feature called Smart Clone. The first time you run it it takes 
a long time to copy to a new drive. After that it's a matter of minutes 
since it scans the drives and only copies any files that were changed or 
added since the last tme. So yes it's incremental in that sense. I usually 
can re-clone each 500gb drive in 3-4 minutes which I do almost daily...at 
least the C Drive.  Twice now I have had C Drive failures....once the drive 
went belly up and once it got infected. Dropped the side of the computer and 
replaced the bad drive with the cloned one from the USB enclosure and was 
back up and running in a couple of minutes

Just yesterday I made a new boot disc for my eeePC 701 using Paragon. I use 
a 2gb Flash Card. When I booted with it I used the Safe MOde No Graphics 
option and it fit the screen perfectly. I stopped there and didn't actually 
do a restore from the Paragon arc file which I have on another 4gb flash 
card, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. Seems to me I did the whole 
restore operation a few years ago to test it out and didn't have any 
graphics problems. 

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#478

FromBillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom>
Date2011-07-30 13:43 -0500
Message-ID<j11jcs$gr2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#477
On 7/30/2011 12:33 PM, olfart wrote:
> Casper has a feature called Smart Clone. The first time you run it it takes
> a long time to copy to a new drive. After that it's a matter of minutes
> since it scans the drives and only copies any files that were changed or
> added since the last tme. So yes it's incremental in that sense. I usually
> can re-clone each 500gb drive in 3-4 minutes which I do almost daily...at
> least the C Drive.  Twice now I have had C Drive failures....once the drive
> went belly up and once it got infected. Dropped the side of the computer and
> replaced the bad drive with the cloned one from the USB enclosure and was
> back up and running in a couple of minutes

Ah okay, XXClone Pro does the same thing. Although they call theirs as 
incremental.

> Just yesterday I made a new boot disc for my eeePC 701 using Paragon. I use
> a 2gb Flash Card. When I booted with it I used the Safe MOde No Graphics
> option and it fit the screen perfectly. I stopped there and didn't actually
> do a restore from the Paragon arc file which I have on another 4gb flash
> card, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. Seems to me I did the whole
> restore operation a few years ago to test it out and didn't have any
> graphics problems.

I am sure I tried that and I actually tried to restore and I had 
problems. Also interesting, Asus XP restore disc uses a limited version 
of Ghost32.exe to restore XP. Although it can only restore. Getting the 
real Ghost32.exe and running it from say BartPE works and fits the small 
screen with lots of room to spare. So that is what I use on my EeePCs. 
Also works well backing up and restoring Linux too.

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

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#479

From"Esra Sdrawkcab" <admin@127.0.0.1>
Date2011-07-31 19:57 +0100
Message-ID<op.vzhyyuuohswpfo@dell3100>
In reply to#467
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:23:05 +0100, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

> On 7/29/2011 3:35 PM, Bert Hyman wrote:
[]
>
> I didn't think XXClone was going to be too good, but I was surprised how  
> well it works and it is only 1.6MB in size. The commercial version will  
> also do incremental cloning which is like unheard of. And unlike Acronis  
> True Image and Paragon, has nothing running in the background when the  
> application isn't running.
>

I know I'm living in the past (Jethro Tull - huh? not heard of them  
either? oh.)
but Norton Ghost <=8) fitted on a 1.44M floppy (It was an ancient form of  
removable media, m'lord)

-- 
[dash dash space newline sig]

"Nuns! NUNS! Reverse! Reverse!"

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#480

Fromwrat@panix.com (the wharf rat)
Date2011-07-31 23:01 +0000
Message-ID<j14mro$h26$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#479
In article <op.vzhyyuuohswpfo@dell3100>,
Esra Sdrawkcab <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>I know I'm living in the past (Jethro Tull - huh? not heard of them  
>either? oh.)

	I really don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick.

	Ghost used to be cool but has sucked since version 10.  A bootable CD
and dd is probably as close as you can get these days.  Just whistle through
you teeth and spit, 'cause it's all right.

	"The discs are squealing,clicking too
	 the firmware says "replace drive soon"
	 Read errors do from syslogs spew,
	 but it's all right.
	 Must've been a cosmic ray
	 kinda sucks but anyway,
	 looks like rebuild time today,
	 but it's all right..."

	Lol, apologies to Mr. Hunter et. al.

	 

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#483

From"~misfit~" <sore_n_happy@nospamyahoo.com.au>
Date2011-08-03 12:01 +1200
Message-ID<j1a34g$73e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#480
Somewhere on teh intarwebs the wharf rat wrote:
> In article <op.vzhyyuuohswpfo@dell3100>,
> Esra Sdrawkcab <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>> I know I'm living in the past (Jethro Tull - huh? not heard of them
>> either? oh.)
>
> I really don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick.
>
> Ghost used to be cool but has sucked since version 10.  A bootable CD
> and dd is probably as close as you can get these days.  Just whistle
> through you teeth and spit, 'cause it's all right.
>
> "The discs are squealing,clicking too
> the firmware says "replace drive soon"
> Read errors do from syslogs spew,
> but it's all right.
> Must've been a cosmic ray
> kinda sucks but anyway,
> looks like rebuild time today,
> but it's all right..."
>
> Lol, apologies to Mr. Hunter et. al.

Heh, nice!

Odd world. Locomotive Breath is currently playing on my [random] playlist of 
2K songs. Kismet? Synchronicity? Oh, no, that was The Police. ;-)
-- 
Shaun.

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 

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#481

From"RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com>
Date2011-08-02 08:55 -0500
Message-ID<0b0g37pvm7p19uujtssct4an0qt2rg711i@4ax.com>
In reply to#457
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:44:41 -0700 (PDT), agodin10@hotmail.com wrote:

>hi....im using windows 7 ultimate on ibm x61....i want to clone my
>80gb hd to 160gb hd......problem is when i look at my hd in disk
>management i see my C partition with the os and files on... next there
>is a 32mb EFI partition......when i clone the C partition to my 160gb
>hd i get the 74.50 gb NTFS C partition and the EFI
>partition.......then when i go into disk management i cant expand the
>C partition volume because the EFI partition is blocking it....how do
>i move or delete this EFI partition...i tried in diskpart but cant see
>the EFI partition.......thanks for any help.....


I wouldn't mess with it but are you really concerned about 32mb when
you are dealing with 160gb of space?   It's not worth your time IMO.

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