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| Started by | Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2011-12-18 11:28 +0000 |
| Last post | 2011-12-19 04:00 -0600 |
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Windows Media Center crash after W7 update Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2011-12-18 11:28 +0000
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-12-18 05:48 -0600
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update "Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-18 13:07 +0000
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-12-18 07:44 -0600
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update Daniallo <I@think.not> - 2011-12-19 12:19 +0000
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-12-20 14:51 -0600
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2011-12-20 13:38 +0000
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update "Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-20 14:11 +0000
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update John <not@telling.com> - 2012-04-20 16:59 +0100
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update mike <spamme9@gmail.com> - 2012-04-20 13:33 -0700
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update CJB <chrisjbrady@gmail.com> - 2012-05-17 10:50 -0700
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update James <noone@nowhere.net> - 2011-12-18 11:52 +0000
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-12-18 11:59 +0000
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update "Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-18 12:38 +0000
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update Tazz <dmswaine@gmail.com> - 2011-12-18 23:17 -0400
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.removethisbit.myzen.co.uk> - 2011-12-19 08:56 +0000
Re: Windows Media Center crash after W7 update "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-12-19 04:00 -0600
| From | Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-12-18 11:28 +0000 |
| Subject | Windows Media Center crash after W7 update |
| Message-ID | <9l60svFjrlU1@mid.individual.net> |
I installed some 'important updates' to W7 (32 bit) last night, and now WMC - or rather the whole PC - crashes when I try to watch live TV via my USB-based Freeview tuner. It will run for a minute or so, and then stops dead. The picture freezes and a distorted sound loop about a second long keeps repeating relentlessly. The whole laptop freezes, and doesn't respond to any keyboard or mouse inputs - so the only way out is to hold down the power button until it turns off, and then re-boot. Anyone else experienced this - or have any suggestions about how to fix it? As with most freezes, I can't find anything in the Event Log. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
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| From | "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> |
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| Date | 2011-12-18 05:48 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <jckjtt$46a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #932 |
In news:9l60svFjrlU1@mid.individual.net,
Roger Mills wrote:
> I installed some 'important updates' to W7 (32 bit) last night, and
> now WMC - or rather the whole PC - crashes when I try to watch live
> TV via my USB-based Freeview tuner.
>
> It will run for a minute or so, and then stops dead. The picture
> freezes and a distorted sound loop about a second long keeps repeating
> relentlessly. The whole laptop freezes, and doesn't respond to any
> keyboard or mouse inputs - so the only way out is to hold down the
> power button until it turns off, and then re-boot.
>
> Anyone else experienced this - or have any suggestions about how to
> fix it? As with most freezes, I can't find anything in the Event Log.
That is a common problem with updates and why I have experimented with
about a dozen laptops here and I have stopped updating half of them
without ill effects.
But on to your problem. System Restore should get you back (if you have
it enabled). Also some updates can be uninstalled is another choice. If
neither is possible and you don't have a backup of your system. Then
maybe the manufacture for your USB tuner has an updated driver for the
Media Center.
Say how do you like the Media Center for saving recordings anyway? I
like the Media Center for watching TV or timeshifting, although it takes
a big CPU hit. Otherwise I like the DVR software that comes with most
tuners better, plus they don't hit the CPU so hard and you can get more
multitasking done.
--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3
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| From | "Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-12-18 13:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <xn0hn02qz3vyy7m002@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #933 |
BillW50 wrote: > In news:9l60svFjrlU1@mid.individual.net, > Roger Mills wrote: > > I installed some 'important updates' to W7 (32 bit) last night, and > > now WMC - or rather the whole PC - crashes when I try to watch live > > TV via my USB-based Freeview tuner. > > > > It will run for a minute or so, and then stops dead. The picture > > freezes and a distorted sound loop about a second long keeps > > repeating relentlessly. The whole laptop freezes, and doesn't > > respond to any keyboard or mouse inputs - so the only way out is to > > hold down the power button until it turns off, and then re-boot. > > > > Anyone else experienced this - or have any suggestions about how to > > fix it? As with most freezes, I can't find anything in the Event > > Log. > > That is a common problem with updates and why I have experimented > with about a dozen laptops here and I have stopped updating half of > them without ill effects. > > But on to your problem. System Restore should get you back (if you > have it enabled). Also some updates can be uninstalled is another > choice. If neither is possible and you don't have a backup of your > system. Then maybe the manufacture for your USB tuner has an updated > driver for the Media Center. > > Say how do you like the Media Center for saving recordings anyway? I > like the Media Center for watching TV or timeshifting, although it > takes a big CPU hit. Otherwise I like the DVR software that comes > with most tuners better, plus they don't hit the CPU so hard and you > can get more multitasking done. Hmm, my laptop (Dell E5500, W7 Ultimate 64 bit) and USB card (Pinnacle Nano) running WMC is way better than the supplied software which was buggy, slow, crashed frequently and was an absolute pain to navigate! Recording in WMC is good, navigation is slow and awkward but works .. I've never had a lock-up or crash with W7 or WMC, no matter what other tasks I'm doing, which is mostly browsing, Word-processing and Usenet .. ;) -- Paul - xxx "You know, all I wanna do is race .. and all I wanna do is win" Mark Cavendish, World Champion 2011.
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| From | "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> |
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| Date | 2011-12-18 07:44 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <jckqog$7q9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #937 |
In news:xn0hn02qz3vyy7m002@news.individual.net,
Paul - xxx wrote:
> BillW50 wrote:
>
>> In news:9l60svFjrlU1@mid.individual.net,
>> Roger Mills wrote:
>>> I installed some 'important updates' to W7 (32 bit) last night, and
>>> now WMC - or rather the whole PC - crashes when I try to watch live
>>> TV via my USB-based Freeview tuner.
>>>
>>> It will run for a minute or so, and then stops dead. The picture
>>> freezes and a distorted sound loop about a second long keeps
>>> repeating relentlessly. The whole laptop freezes, and doesn't
>>> respond to any keyboard or mouse inputs - so the only way out is to
>>> hold down the power button until it turns off, and then re-boot.
>>>
>>> Anyone else experienced this - or have any suggestions about how to
>>> fix it? As with most freezes, I can't find anything in the Event
>>> Log.
>>
>> That is a common problem with updates and why I have experimented
>> with about a dozen laptops here and I have stopped updating half of
>> them without ill effects.
>>
>> But on to your problem. System Restore should get you back (if you
>> have it enabled). Also some updates can be uninstalled is another
>> choice. If neither is possible and you don't have a backup of your
>> system. Then maybe the manufacture for your USB tuner has an updated
>> driver for the Media Center.
>>
>> Say how do you like the Media Center for saving recordings anyway? I
>> like the Media Center for watching TV or timeshifting, although it
>> takes a big CPU hit. Otherwise I like the DVR software that comes
>> with most tuners better, plus they don't hit the CPU so hard and you
>> can get more multitasking done.
>
> Hmm, my laptop (Dell E5500, W7 Ultimate 64 bit) and USB card (Pinnacle
> Nano) running WMC is way better than the supplied software which was
> buggy, slow, crashed frequently and was an absolute pain to navigate!
>
> Recording in WMC is good, navigation is slow and awkward but works ..
> I've never had a lock-up or crash with W7 or WMC, no matter what other
> tasks I'm doing, which is mostly browsing, Word-processing and Usenet
> .. ;)
Yes I agree pretty much with WMC, but the format seems to be only
playable on WMC machines. A stock XP machine won't play them for
example. Yes some TV DVR software probably isn't too good. I have used
other like older versions of KWorld and InterVideo WinDVR. And those
were really buggy.
Although I am very happy with AVerTV 6. Lots more options available.
Even timeshifting the FM radio which comes in handy from time to time.
And I don't think WMC can wake up a computer and record a program and go
back to sleep after it is done. Although I do this all of the time with
AVerTV 6.
--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3
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| From | Daniallo <I@think.not> |
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| Date | 2011-12-19 12:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ju1awv3f2wr.my79yxi83ahe$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #938 |
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 07:44:47 -0600, BillW50 wrote: > Yes I agree pretty much with WMC, but the format seems to be only > playable on WMC machines. A stock XP machine won't play them for > example. Go into your recorded tv folder & right click a recording, you have an option to convert to dvr-ms which will play on XP.
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| From | "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> |
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| Date | 2011-12-20 14:51 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <jcqsgj$l3q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #953 |
In news:ju1awv3f2wr.my79yxi83ahe$.dlg@40tude.net,
Daniallo wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 07:44:47 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
>
>> Yes I agree pretty much with WMC, but the format seems to be only
>> playable on WMC machines. A stock XP machine won't play them for
>> example.
>
> Go into your recorded tv folder & right click a recording, you have an
> option to convert to dvr-ms which will play on XP.
Thanks! I have a dozen of computers here and some stock and some isn't.
And they all have the same problem with the converted file. As WMP will
just sit there like it is paused when it isn't. Although it plays fine
if I move the time bar. Isn't there a codec that allows it to play
without conversion?
--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3
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| From | Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-12-20 13:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9lbh6pF9jnU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #933 |
On 18/12/2011 11:48, BillW50 wrote: > In news:9l60svFjrlU1@mid.individual.net, > Roger Mills wrote: >> I installed some 'important updates' to W7 (32 bit) last night, and >> now WMC - or rather the whole PC - crashes when I try to watch live >> TV via my USB-based Freeview tuner. >> >> It will run for a minute or so, and then stops dead. The picture >> freezes and a distorted sound loop about a second long keeps repeating >> relentlessly. The whole laptop freezes, and doesn't respond to any >> keyboard or mouse inputs - so the only way out is to hold down the >> power button until it turns off, and then re-boot. >> >> Anyone else experienced this - or have any suggestions about how to >> fix it? As with most freezes, I can't find anything in the Event Log. > > That is a common problem with updates and why I have experimented with > about a dozen laptops here and I have stopped updating half of them > without ill effects. > > But on to your problem. System Restore should get you back (if you have > it enabled). Also some updates can be uninstalled is another choice. If > neither is possible and you don't have a backup of your system. Then > maybe the manufacture for your USB tuner has an updated driver for the > Media Center. > Thanks for that - and thanks to everyone else who responded. I did a restore to the point immediately before the update, and the problem seems to have gone away. I went away from home (and am still away) shortly after doing the restore - so haven't been able to do any extensive testing, but it *looks* good so far. I suppose I shall now have to apply these updates one at a time, and see which one is the culprit. > Say how do you like the Media Center for saving recordings anyway? I > like the Media Center for watching TV or timeshifting, although it takes > a big CPU hit. Otherwise I like the DVR software that comes with most > tuners better, plus they don't hit the CPU so hard and you can get more > multitasking done. > I was introduced to WMC by someone in this NG (or another NG to which I cross-posted - can't remember) because the application which came with the dongle kept crashing and freezing my laptop. Apart from this recent problem, WMC has fixed that. To answer your question, I think that the user interface is truly *awful* - but it does the job,once you have found your way around it. The other day, I found some recordings which I hadn't expected. I must at some time have told it to record a series - but I hadn't run the application in the meantime, and didn't expect it to record when it wasn't running - but it *did*. Presumably, something must be loaded at startup which takes care of scheduled recordings even if the user interface isn't running. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
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| From | "Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-12-20 14:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <xn0hn2xkae66bp003@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #956 |
Roger Mills wrote: > I was introduced to WMC by someone in this NG (or another NG to which > I cross-posted - can't remember) because the application which came > with the dongle kept crashing and freezing my laptop. Probably me, I couldn't get my PCTV nanostick to work for longer than a few minutes with the supplied software, happened to try WMC and found it worked very well, albeit clunky, awkward but very reliable! > Apart from this > recent problem, WMC has fixed that. To answer your question, I think > that the user interface is truly awful - but it does the job,once you > have found your way around it. The other day, I found some recordings > which I hadn't expected. I must at some time have told it to record a > series - but I hadn't run the application in the meantime, and didn't > expect it to record when it wasn't running - but it did. Presumably, > something must be loaded at startup which takes care of scheduled > recordings even if the user interface isn't running. That's interesting, might have to try that it could come in very useful, thanks. karma .. ;) -- Paul - xxx "You know, all I wanna do is race .. and all I wanna do is win" Mark Cavendish, World Champion 2011.
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| From | John <not@telling.com> |
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| Date | 2012-04-20 16:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <B9CdnTMLNsZFGgzSnZ2dnUVZ8hGdnZ2d@bt.com> |
| In reply to | #957 |
Paul - xxx brought next idea : > Roger Mills wrote: > >> I was introduced to WMC by someone in this NG (or another NG to which >> I cross-posted - can't remember) because the application which came >> with the dongle kept crashing and freezing my laptop. > > Probably me, I couldn't get my PCTV nanostick to work for longer than a > few minutes with the supplied software, happened to try WMC and found > it worked very well, albeit clunky, awkward but very reliable! > >> Apart from this >> recent problem, WMC has fixed that. To answer your question, I think >> that the user interface is truly awful - but it does the job,once you >> have found your way around it. The other day, I found some recordings >> which I hadn't expected. I must at some time have told it to record a >> series - but I hadn't run the application in the meantime, and didn't >> expect it to record when it wasn't running - but it did. Presumably, >> something must be loaded at startup which takes care of scheduled >> recordings even if the user interface isn't running. > > That's interesting, might have to try that it could come in very > useful, thanks. > > karma .. ;) Yes, I've got Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit in an HTPC I built using a BlackGold 3620 tuner and Windows Media Centre works brilliantly. Use the guide to choose to record either a single programme or a whole series, choose the Shut Down menu and then Sleep from within Media Centre and it wakes up and records flawlessly. Highly recommended :')
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| From | mike <spamme9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-04-20 13:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <jmsh7k$lrj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #933 |
On 12/18/2011 3:48 AM, BillW50 wrote: > In news:9l60svFjrlU1@mid.individual.net, > Roger Mills wrote: >> I installed some 'important updates' to W7 (32 bit) last night, and >> now WMC - or rather the whole PC - crashes when I try to watch live >> TV via my USB-based Freeview tuner. >> >> It will run for a minute or so, and then stops dead. The picture >> freezes and a distorted sound loop about a second long keeps repeating >> relentlessly. The whole laptop freezes, and doesn't respond to any >> keyboard or mouse inputs - so the only way out is to hold down the >> power button until it turns off, and then re-boot. >> >> Anyone else experienced this - or have any suggestions about how to >> fix it? As with most freezes, I can't find anything in the Event Log. > > That is a common problem with updates and why I have experimented with > about a dozen laptops here and I have stopped updating half of them > without ill effects. > > But on to your problem. System Restore should get you back (if you have > it enabled). Also some updates can be uninstalled is another choice. If > neither is possible and you don't have a backup of your system. Then > maybe the manufacture for your USB tuner has an updated driver for the > Media Center. > > Say how do you like the Media Center for saving recordings anyway? I > like the Media Center for watching TV or timeshifting, although it takes > a big CPU hit. Otherwise I like the DVR software that comes with most > tuners better, plus they don't hit the CPU so hard and you can get more > multitasking done. > I've never had good luck with media center. Either it wouldn't play TV at all or would use 120% of the cpu and sutdder badly. I tried the win8 preview and the tv card plays without a hitch and uses the same cpu cycles as the recorder that came with the card. I'm optimistic that things might be getting better in this area. I don't like the user interface, but at least it works now.
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| From | CJB <chrisjbrady@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-05-17 10:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4af3414d-fdb3-4374-a97c-5ed4668a1bc1@ec4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1342 |
On Apr 20, 9:33 pm, mike <spam...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/18/2011 3:48 AM, BillW50 wrote: > > > > > > > > > Innews:9l60svFjrlU1@mid.individual.net, > > Roger Mills wrote: > >> I installed some 'important updates' to W7 (32 bit) last night, and > >> now WMC - or rather the whole PC - crashes when I try to watch live > >> TV via my USB-based Freeview tuner. > > >> It will run for a minute or so, and then stops dead. The picture > >> freezes and a distorted sound loop about a second long keeps repeating > >> relentlessly. The whole laptop freezes, and doesn't respond to any > >> keyboard or mouse inputs - so the only way out is to hold down the > >> power button until it turns off, and then re-boot. > > >> Anyone else experienced this - or have any suggestions about how to > >> fix it? As with most freezes, I can't find anything in the Event Log. > > > That is a common problem with updates and why I have experimented with > > about a dozen laptops here and I have stopped updating half of them > > without ill effects. > > > But on to your problem. System Restore should get you back (if you have > > it enabled). Also some updates can be uninstalled is another choice. If > > neither is possible and you don't have a backup of your system. Then > > maybe the manufacture for your USB tuner has an updated driver for the > > Media Center. > > > Say how do you like the Media Center for saving recordings anyway? I > > like the Media Center for watching TV or timeshifting, although it takes > > a big CPU hit. Otherwise I like the DVR software that comes with most > > tuners better, plus they don't hit the CPU so hard and you can get more > > multitasking done. > > I've never had good luck with media center. > Either it wouldn't play TV at all or would use 120% of the cpu and sutdder > badly. > I tried the win8 preview and the tv card plays without a hitch > and uses the same cpu cycles as the recorder that came with the card. > I'm optimistic that things might be getting better in this area. > I don't like the user interface, but at least it works now. I have XP MC on my Toshiba Qosmio G30 - it cost 2 grand (pounds) originally. However the t.v. analogue and digitial card(s) gave such appalling results that I quickly hacked the registry to disable the whole lot. I could never get the scan for new channels to work. The picture quality was appalling with colour washout and jerkiness. And if I did a scan for analogue channels this wiped out the settings for the digital channels, and vice-a-versa. Now-a-days I watch t.v. on a proper digital t.v. - the laptop is just that - a laptop. Media Centre is the worst app. I have ever come across from MS - but that's not saying very much. CJB.
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| From | James <noone@nowhere.net> |
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| Date | 2011-12-18 11:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <Bf6dnejI5K9hTnDTnZ2dnUVZ8oednZ2d@brightview.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #932 |
On 18/12/2011 11:28, Roger Mills wrote: > I installed some 'important updates' to W7 (32 bit) > last night, and now WMC - or rather the whole PC - > crashes when I try to watch live TV via my USB-based > Freeview tuner. > > It will run for a minute or so, and then stops dead. > The picture freezes and a distorted sound loop about a > second long keeps repeating relentlessly. The whole > laptop freezes, and doesn't respond to any keyboard or > mouse inputs - so the only way out is to hold down the > power button until it turns off, and then re-boot. > > Anyone else experienced this - or have any suggestions > about how to fix it? As with most freezes, I can't > find anything in the Event Log. I had a problem with jerky video playback and live TV in other apps after installing the batch of 64-bit Windows Updates dated 13th December. I did a System Restore to get rid of the updates (and the problem) then added them back one-by-one. The restore also got rid of an update to a 3rd party app, which could have been the culprit. The problem seemed to have gone after the re-update, but it returned the next day, so I restored to before the last update (IE9 fix) and repeated that fix. I'm still monitoring to see if the issue comes back.
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| From | J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> |
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| Date | 2011-12-18 11:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jckkio$23f$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #932 |
On Sunday, December 18th, 2011, at 11:28:57h +0000, Roger Mills asked:
> or have any suggestions about how to fix it?
First do a web search to see if anybody else if having problems with
your specific USB box.
Other than that, all I can suggest is to completely remove the
drivers and user front end software for the USB box (including
registry keys) and then reinstall the USB box drivers and
software from scratch.
You may try asking for specific help for your USB box at
<http://www.tv-cards.COM/messageboard/>
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| From | "Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-12-18 12:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <xn0hn01xr3uxtlj001@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #932 |
Roger Mills wrote: > I installed some 'important updates' to W7 (32 bit) last night, and > now WMC - or rather the whole PC - crashes when I try to watch live > TV via my USB-based Freeview tuner. > > It will run for a minute or so, and then stops dead. The picture > freezes and a distorted sound loop about a second long keeps > repeating relentlessly. The whole laptop freezes, and doesn't respond > to any keyboard or mouse inputs - so the only way out is to hold down > the power button until it turns off, and then re-boot. > > Anyone else experienced this - or have any suggestions about how to > fix it? As with most freezes, I can't find anything in the Event Log. USB Freeview tuner (Pinnacle PCTV Nano Stick) inserted into the laptop and running W7 Ultimate and WMC, updated automagically last night ... all works absolutely fine, no issues. Checking this, I have W7 (same setup) on a computer in one room, all updated as of last night automatically. It's connected via ethernet directly to the TV in the front room .. Currently streaming Fawlty Towers with no issues .. Ran fine for 5 minutes or so .. Swapped to music, pictures and a film and all ran fine .. Swapped to streaming wirelessly from (as above) laptop and same, all works fine .. Only checked for a couple of minutes each, mind, but no hint of issues at all. -- Paul - xxx "You know, all I wanna do is race .. and all I wanna do is win" Mark Cavendish, World Champion 2011.
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| From | Tazz <dmswaine@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-12-18 23:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4eeeacbf$0$19563$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net> |
| In reply to | #932 |
On 18/12/2011 7:28 AM, Roger Mills wrote: > I installed some 'important updates' to W7 (32 bit) last night, and now > WMC - or rather the whole PC - crashes when I try to watch live TV via > my USB-based Freeview tuner. > > It will run for a minute or so, and then stops dead. The picture freezes > and a distorted sound loop about a second long keeps repeating > relentlessly. The whole laptop freezes, and doesn't respond to any > keyboard or mouse inputs - so the only way out is to hold down the power > button until it turns off, and then re-boot. > > Anyone else experienced this - or have any suggestions about how to fix > it? As with most freezes, I can't find anything in the Event Log. Maybe try re-installing or updating your video drivers? The whole Windows Update thing scares the #ell outa me. How they can change OS files and settings while the OS is still running and being used and supposedly not affect any other software stuff. I've been bitten too many times, I usually make a Ghost or Acronis image before ANY Windows Update. -- </Tazz>
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| From | Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.removethisbit.myzen.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-12-19 08:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <VA.00000bd3.004239f5@escapetime.removethisbit.myzen.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #946 |
In article <4eeeacbf$0$19563$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net>, Tazz wrote: > The whole Windows Update thing scares the #ell outa me. How they can > change OS files and settings while the OS is still running and being > used and supposedly not affect any other software stuff. They don't. If an upgrade includes files that are being used, you have to restart your computer to allow the new files to be used and the old ones to be deleted. Rod. -- Virtual Access V6.3 free usenet/email software from http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/
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| From | "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> |
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| Date | 2011-12-19 04:00 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <jcn1vs$s0n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #950 |
In news:VA.00000bd3.004239f5@escapetime.removethisbit.myzen.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart wrote:
> In article <4eeeacbf$0$19563$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net>, Tazz wrote:
>> The whole Windows Update thing scares the #ell outa me. How they can
>> change OS files and settings while the OS is still running and being
>> used and supposedly not affect any other software stuff.
>
> They don't. If an upgrade includes files that are being used, you have
> to restart your computer to allow the new files to be used and the old
> ones to be deleted.
>
> Rod.
Tazz is very smart. As any programmer that is worth a damn knows that
making any changes to an OS carries a risk. OS are written to minimize
such problems, but there is no way to eliminate all risks. So it is
always best to have a backup plan if an update goes wrong.
There are tons of examples where this is true. For example my
KW-TVUSB506RF-PRO tuner driver breaks if used on anything higher than XP
SP2. So can OE6 break with XP SP3 as well. As it can hang on compacting
on the folder.dbx file due to changes in SP3. And I am sure somebody
could write a book on why updating an OS can break your OS and
applications.
--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3
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