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  What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-03 14:45 -0800
    Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-04 12:46 +1100
      Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-03 20:11 -0800
        Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-04 17:18 +1100
          Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-05 00:11 -0800
            Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-05 20:32 +1100
              Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-05 11:29 -0800
                Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 17:25 +1100
                  Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 11:51 -0800
                    Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 08:33 +1100
                    Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-01-07 18:44 +0000
            Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-01-06 11:42 -0600
              Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 11:52 -0800
                Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-06 20:28 +0000
                  Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-01-06 14:55 -0600
                    Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 22:50 -0800
                      Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? Krypsis <krypsis@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-01-08 01:32 +1100
                        Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-01-07 12:52 -0600
                        Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 06:47 +1100
                          Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> - 2012-01-22 08:28 -0600
                            Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-23 05:58 +1100
                              Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> - 2012-01-22 14:17 -0600
                                Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-23 11:23 +1100
                                  Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-01-22 17:34 -0800
                                  Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> - 2012-01-22 22:09 -0600
                                    Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-23 04:26 +0000
                                    Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-24 05:28 +1100
                                      Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> - 2012-01-23 13:55 -0600
                                        Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2012-01-23 22:15 +0100
                                          Re: What partitions to copy in creating bootable clone? "RnR" <rnrtexas@gmail.com> - 2012-01-23 16:07 -0600

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#1049

RnR wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Krypsis wrote
>>> AndyHancock wrote
>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom>  wrote
>>>>> GMAN wrote
>>>>>> AndyHancock<andymhanc...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote
>>>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Replacing lost recovery discs cost in the order
>>>>>>>>> of $66, and takes time for delivery.

>>>>>>>> There are places that will sell you restore discs for about 25
>>>>>>>> bucks. I've used them before.

>>>>>>> Acknowledged.

>>>>>>> For something as foundational as virgin factory settings,
>>>>>>> however, I would go for the assurance of original vendor
>>>>>>> recovery discs, if only for the hope of getting drivers and
>>>>>>> such that are tailored to the machine.

>>>>>> What the other poster meant was that if the manufacturer of the
>>>>>> PC like HP or gateway no longer sells or supplies the disk, you
>>>>>> can sometimes get the exact same disks from a 3rd party.

>>>>> Yes that is what I mean. I bought one set from:

>>>>> http://www.restoredisks.com/

>>>>> And they restore your machine to exactly the same as factory
>>>>> restore discs do. Same applications, drivers, etc. The only thing
>>>>> that was different was it was Windows XP with a SATA drive, the
>>>>> SATA driver wasn't slipstreamed on the XP install disc. But it
>>>>> was included on the drivers disc. And if your machine came with
>>>>> something like MS Office, they send you that too.

>>>> Handy to know about such an alternative.  Thanks.

>>> I always clone my restore disks as well as creating ISO images
>>> of them. I do this immediately I receive a new computer.

>> Irrelevant to what can be justified rationally.

>> Just because you do it that way, doesnt mean that everyone else should.

>>> If the computer doesn't come with CD or DVD restore disks,
>>> I create them. My ISO images are backed up to offsite
>>> storage. Original and created disks go to a fireproof safe.

>> Hell of a lot of farting around for very little useful result.

>>> I see way too many people who don't take any care at all with their media.
>>> Can't have a lot of sympathy for them when their hard disk goes belly up!

>> There are plenty of viable alternatives backup wise that are
>> much more useful than your mindlessly anal approach.

> Ok wise one, please give us your approaches....

Backup to other drives on other PCs than the one being backed
up and the whole collection on an external drive to a physically
separate location so you are covered if the house burns down,
floats away, or the entire house is looted by some damned druggy.

No point in being so obsessively anal with the restore disks,
the full image of the hard drive is all you actually need. 

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#1050

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 05:58:33 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>RnR wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Krypsis wrote
>>>> AndyHancock wrote
>>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom>  wrote
>>>>>> GMAN wrote
>>>>>>> AndyHancock<andymhanc...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote
>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> Replacing lost recovery discs cost in the order
>>>>>>>>>> of $66, and takes time for delivery.
>
>>>>>>>>> There are places that will sell you restore discs for about 25
>>>>>>>>> bucks. I've used them before.
>
>>>>>>>> Acknowledged.
>
>>>>>>>> For something as foundational as virgin factory settings,
>>>>>>>> however, I would go for the assurance of original vendor
>>>>>>>> recovery discs, if only for the hope of getting drivers and
>>>>>>>> such that are tailored to the machine.
>
>>>>>>> What the other poster meant was that if the manufacturer of the
>>>>>>> PC like HP or gateway no longer sells or supplies the disk, you
>>>>>>> can sometimes get the exact same disks from a 3rd party.
>
>>>>>> Yes that is what I mean. I bought one set from:
>
>>>>>> http://www.restoredisks.com/
>
>>>>>> And they restore your machine to exactly the same as factory
>>>>>> restore discs do. Same applications, drivers, etc. The only thing
>>>>>> that was different was it was Windows XP with a SATA drive, the
>>>>>> SATA driver wasn't slipstreamed on the XP install disc. But it
>>>>>> was included on the drivers disc. And if your machine came with
>>>>>> something like MS Office, they send you that too.
>
>>>>> Handy to know about such an alternative.  Thanks.
>
>>>> I always clone my restore disks as well as creating ISO images
>>>> of them. I do this immediately I receive a new computer.
>
>>> Irrelevant to what can be justified rationally.
>
>>> Just because you do it that way, doesnt mean that everyone else should.
>
>>>> If the computer doesn't come with CD or DVD restore disks,
>>>> I create them. My ISO images are backed up to offsite
>>>> storage. Original and created disks go to a fireproof safe.
>
>>> Hell of a lot of farting around for very little useful result.
>
>>>> I see way too many people who don't take any care at all with their media.
>>>> Can't have a lot of sympathy for them when their hard disk goes belly up!
>
>>> There are plenty of viable alternatives backup wise that are
>>> much more useful than your mindlessly anal approach.
>
>> Ok wise one, please give us your approaches....
>
>Backup to other drives on other PCs than the one being backed
>up and the whole collection on an external drive to a physically
>separate location so you are covered if the house burns down,
>floats away, or the entire house is looted by some damned druggy.
>
>No point in being so obsessively anal with the restore disks,
>the full image of the hard drive is all you actually need. 
>


Ok, your approach is fine IMO (others might consider yours extreme)
but you assume too much when you put someone else's down.  Not in
terms of who has the better approach but rather that they may not be
able to do your approach ... ie: finances, transportation, health,
etc.. .    I won't get into a pissing match with you over how many are
just plain stupid, lazy or forgetful vs. the reasons I stated above. 

there are different degrees to accomplish this.  Or to put it another
way... different strokes for different folks.   

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#1052

RnR wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> RnR wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Krypsis wrote
>>>>> AndyHancock wrote
>>>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom>  wrote
>>>>>>> GMAN wrote
>>>>>>>> AndyHancock<andymhanc...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> Replacing lost recovery discs cost in the
>>>>>>>>>>> order of $66, and takes time for delivery.

>>>>>>>>>> There are places that will sell you restore discs for about 25 bucks. I've used them before.

>>>>>>>>> Acknowledged.

>>>>>>>>> For something as foundational as virgin factory settings,
>>>>>>>>> however, I would go for the assurance of original vendor
>>>>>>>>> recovery discs, if only for the hope of getting drivers and
>>>>>>>>> such that are tailored to the machine.

>>>>>>>> What the other poster meant was that if the manufacturer of the
>>>>>>>> PC like HP or gateway no longer sells or supplies the disk, you
>>>>>>>> can sometimes get the exact same disks from a 3rd party.

>>>>>>> Yes that is what I mean. I bought one set from:

>>>>>>> http://www.restoredisks.com/

>>>>>>> And they restore your machine to exactly the same as factory
>>>>>>> restore discs do. Same applications, drivers, etc. The only
>>>>>>> thing that was different was it was Windows XP with a SATA
>>>>>>> drive, the SATA driver wasn't slipstreamed on the XP install
>>>>>>> disc. But it was included on the drivers disc. And if your machine
>>>>>>> came with something like MS Office, they send you that too.

>>>>>> Handy to know about such an alternative.  Thanks.

>>>>> I always clone my restore disks as well as creating ISO images
>>>>> of them. I do this immediately I receive a new computer.

>>>> Irrelevant to what can be justified rationally.

>>>> Just because you do it that way, doesnt mean that everyone else should.

>>>>> If the computer doesn't come with CD or DVD restore disks,
>>>>> I create them. My ISO images are backed up to offsite
>>>>> storage. Original and created disks go to a fireproof safe.

>>>> Hell of a lot of farting around for very little useful result.

>>>>> I see way too many people who don't take any care at all with
>>>>> their media. Can't have a lot of sympathy for them when their
>>>>> hard disk goes belly up!

>>>> There are plenty of viable alternatives backup wise that are
>>>> much more useful than your mindlessly anal approach.

>>> Ok wise one, please give us your approaches....

>> Backup to other drives on other PCs than the one being backed
>> up and the whole collection on an external drive to a physically
>> separate location so you are covered if the house burns down,
>> floats away, or the entire house is looted by some damned druggy.

>> No point in being so obsessively anal with the restore disks,
>> the full image of the hard drive is all you actually need.

> Ok, your approach is fine IMO (others might consider yours extreme)

Yes, particularly the offsite hard drive. But I do have a lot of code and
databases what arent replaceable. They likely wouldnt have anything like that.

> but you assume too much when you put someone else's down.

Nope, not with that mindless anal approach with the physical recovery media.

There is no point in even bothering if you have full images of the entire physical drive.

> Not in terms of who has the better approach but rather that they may not
> be able to do your approach ... ie: finances, transportation, health, etc.. .

You dont need anything like that to image the physical drive so you
dont need the physical recovery media so mindlessly anally archived.

In fact my approach costs absolutely nothing given that you do need
decent backups of you create much at all personally that cant be replaced.

> I won't get into a pissing match with you over how many are
> just plain stupid, lazy or forgetful vs. the reasons I stated above.

> there are different degrees to accomplish this.

And that obsessively anal approach to dozens of copys of the
recovery media is just mindlessly silly and never makes sense at all.

> Or to put it another way... different strokes for different folks.

Wrong, as always with that mindlessly anal approach to the recovery media I commented on. 

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#1053

On Jan 22, 6:23 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> RnR wrote
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> RnR wrote
> >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> Krypsis wrote
> >>>>> AndyHancock wrote
> >>>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom>  wrote
> >>>>>>> GMAN wrote
> >>>>>>>> AndyHancock<andymhanc...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Replacing lost recovery discs cost in the
> >>>>>>>>>>> order of $66, and takes time for delivery.
> >>>>>>>>>> There are places that will sell you restore discs for about 25 bucks. I've used them before.
> >>>>>>>>> Acknowledged.
> >>>>>>>>> For something as foundational as virgin factory settings,
> >>>>>>>>> however, I would go for the assurance of original vendor
> >>>>>>>>> recovery discs, if only for the hope of getting drivers and
> >>>>>>>>> such that are tailored to the machine.
> >>>>>>>> What the other poster meant was that if the manufacturer of the
> >>>>>>>> PC like HP or gateway no longer sells or supplies the disk, you
> >>>>>>>> can sometimes get the exact same disks from a 3rd party.
> >>>>>>> Yes that is what I mean. I bought one set from:
> >>>>>>>http://www.restoredisks.com/
> >>>>>>> And they restore your machine to exactly the same as factory
> >>>>>>> restore discs do. Same applications, drivers, etc. The only
> >>>>>>> thing that was different was it was Windows XP with a SATA
> >>>>>>> drive, the SATA driver wasn't slipstreamed on the XP install
> >>>>>>> disc. But it was included on the drivers disc. And if your machine
> >>>>>>> came with something like MS Office, they send you that too.
> >>>>>> Handy to know about such an alternative.  Thanks.
> >>>>> I always clone my restore disks as well as creating ISO images
> >>>>> of them. I do this immediately I receive a new computer.
> >>>> Irrelevant to what can be justified rationally.
> >>>> Just because you do it that way, doesnt mean that everyone else should.
> >>>>> If the computer doesn't come with CD or DVD restore disks,
> >>>>> I create them. My ISO images are backed up to offsite
> >>>>> storage. Original and created disks go to a fireproof safe.
> >>>> Hell of a lot of farting around for very little useful result.
> >>>>> I see way too many people who don't take any care at all with
> >>>>> their media. Can't have a lot of sympathy for them when their
> >>>>> hard disk goes belly up!
> >>>> There are plenty of viable alternatives backup wise that are
> >>>> much more useful than your mindlessly anal approach.
> >>> Ok wise one, please give us your approaches....
> >> Backup to other drives on other PCs than the one being backed
> >> up and the whole collection on an external drive to a physically
> >> separate location so you are covered if the house burns down,
> >> floats away, or the entire house is looted by some damned druggy.
> >> No point in being so obsessively anal with the restore disks,
> >> the full image of the hard drive is all you actually need.
> > Ok, your approach is fine IMO (others might consider yours extreme)
>
> Yes, particularly the offsite hard drive. But I do have a lot of code and
> databases what arent replaceable. They likely wouldnt have anything like that.
>
> > but you assume too much when you put someone else's down.
>
> Nope, not with that mindless anal approach with the physical recovery media.
>
> There is no point in even bothering if you have full images of the entire physical drive.
>
> > Not in terms of who has the better approach but rather that they may not
> > be able to do your approach ... ie: finances, transportation, health, etc.. .
>
> You dont need anything like that to image the physical drive so you
> dont need the physical recovery media so mindlessly anally archived.
>
> In fact my approach costs absolutely nothing given that you do need
> decent backups of you create much at all personally that cant be replaced.
>
> > I won't get into a pissing match with you over how many are
> > just plain stupid, lazy or forgetful vs. the reasons I stated above.
> > there are different degrees to accomplish this.
>
> And that obsessively anal approach to dozens of copys of the
> recovery media is just mindlessly silly and never makes sense at all.
>
> > Or to put it another way... different strokes for different folks.
>
> Wrong, as always with that mindlessly anal approach to the recovery media I commented on.

Need you say, "mindlessly anal" many more times?  Mr. Redundant!

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#1054

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:23:31 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>RnR wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> RnR wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Krypsis wrote
>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote
>>>>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom>  wrote
>>>>>>>> GMAN wrote
>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock<andymhanc...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacing lost recovery discs cost in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> order of $66, and takes time for delivery.
>
>>>>>>>>>>> There are places that will sell you restore discs for about 25 bucks. I've used them before.
>
>>>>>>>>>> Acknowledged.
>
>>>>>>>>>> For something as foundational as virgin factory settings,
>>>>>>>>>> however, I would go for the assurance of original vendor
>>>>>>>>>> recovery discs, if only for the hope of getting drivers and
>>>>>>>>>> such that are tailored to the machine.
>
>>>>>>>>> What the other poster meant was that if the manufacturer of the
>>>>>>>>> PC like HP or gateway no longer sells or supplies the disk, you
>>>>>>>>> can sometimes get the exact same disks from a 3rd party.
>
>>>>>>>> Yes that is what I mean. I bought one set from:
>
>>>>>>>> http://www.restoredisks.com/
>
>>>>>>>> And they restore your machine to exactly the same as factory
>>>>>>>> restore discs do. Same applications, drivers, etc. The only
>>>>>>>> thing that was different was it was Windows XP with a SATA
>>>>>>>> drive, the SATA driver wasn't slipstreamed on the XP install
>>>>>>>> disc. But it was included on the drivers disc. And if your machine
>>>>>>>> came with something like MS Office, they send you that too.
>
>>>>>>> Handy to know about such an alternative.  Thanks.
>
>>>>>> I always clone my restore disks as well as creating ISO images
>>>>>> of them. I do this immediately I receive a new computer.
>
>>>>> Irrelevant to what can be justified rationally.
>
>>>>> Just because you do it that way, doesnt mean that everyone else should.
>
>>>>>> If the computer doesn't come with CD or DVD restore disks,
>>>>>> I create them. My ISO images are backed up to offsite
>>>>>> storage. Original and created disks go to a fireproof safe.
>
>>>>> Hell of a lot of farting around for very little useful result.
>
>>>>>> I see way too many people who don't take any care at all with
>>>>>> their media. Can't have a lot of sympathy for them when their
>>>>>> hard disk goes belly up!
>
>>>>> There are plenty of viable alternatives backup wise that are
>>>>> much more useful than your mindlessly anal approach.
>
>>>> Ok wise one, please give us your approaches....
>
>>> Backup to other drives on other PCs than the one being backed
>>> up and the whole collection on an external drive to a physically
>>> separate location so you are covered if the house burns down,
>>> floats away, or the entire house is looted by some damned druggy.
>
>>> No point in being so obsessively anal with the restore disks,
>>> the full image of the hard drive is all you actually need.
>
>> Ok, your approach is fine IMO (others might consider yours extreme)
>
>Yes, particularly the offsite hard drive. But I do have a lot of code and
>databases what arent replaceable. They likely wouldnt have anything like that.
>
>> but you assume too much when you put someone else's down.
>
>Nope, not with that mindless anal approach with the physical recovery media.
>
>There is no point in even bothering if you have full images of the entire physical drive.
>
>> Not in terms of who has the better approach but rather that they may not
>> be able to do your approach ... ie: finances, transportation, health, etc.. .
>
>You dont need anything like that to image the physical drive so you
>dont need the physical recovery media so mindlessly anally archived.
>
>In fact my approach costs absolutely nothing given that you do need
>decent backups of you create much at all personally that cant be replaced.
>
>> I won't get into a pissing match with you over how many are
>> just plain stupid, lazy or forgetful vs. the reasons I stated above.
>
>> there are different degrees to accomplish this.
>
>And that obsessively anal approach to dozens of copys of the
>recovery media is just mindlessly silly and never makes sense at all.
>
>> Or to put it another way... different strokes for different folks.
>
>Wrong, as always with that mindlessly anal approach to the recovery media I commented on. 
>


I have no problem with your image approach but when you say offsite,
that's what I was referring to earlier.   That's not so easy for some
for the reasons I already stated.

OT but your use of the word "anal"  brought back memories.  Aren't you
the same Rod Speed years ago that many in other newsgroups called a
TROLL ?  I used to browse many other newsgroups (I don't nowadays) and
recall reading others calling you out.  If I'm right, you still use
the same vocabulary as you did then.   If I'm wrong, then you picked a
bad handle to go by.   And if I'm right, you and I go way back.      

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#1055

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage RnR <rnrtexas@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:23:31 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
> I have no problem with your image approach but when you say offsite,
> that's what I was referring to earlier.   That's not so easy for some
> for the reasons I already stated.

> OT but your use of the word "anal"  brought back memories.  Aren't you
> the same Rod Speed years ago that many in other newsgroups called a
> TROLL ?  I used to browse many other newsgroups (I don't nowadays) and
> recall reading others calling you out.  If I'm right, you still use
> the same vocabulary as you did then.   If I'm wrong, then you picked a
> bad handle to go by.   And if I'm right, you and I go way back.      

He has been trolling this group for a long, long time, so
you are very likely right on the mark. Most people here
have him filtered out though.

Arno
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#1056

RnR wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> RnR wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> RnR wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Krypsis wrote
>>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote
>>>>>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom>  wrote
>>>>>>>>> GMAN wrote
>>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock<andymhanc...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacing lost recovery discs cost in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> order of $66, and takes time for delivery.

>>>>>>>>>>>> There are places that will sell you restore discs
>>>>>>>>>>>> for about 25 bucks. I've used them before.

>>>>>>>>>>> Acknowledged.

>>>>>>>>>>> For something as foundational as virgin factory settings,
>>>>>>>>>>> however, I would go for the assurance of original vendor
>>>>>>>>>>> recovery discs, if only for the hope of getting drivers and
>>>>>>>>>>> such that are tailored to the machine.

>>>>>>>>>> What the other poster meant was that if the manufacturer of
>>>>>>>>>> the PC like HP or gateway no longer sells or supplies the disk,
>>>>>>>>>> you can sometimes get the exact same disks from a 3rd party.

>>>>>>>>> Yes that is what I mean. I bought one set from:

>>>>>>>>> http://www.restoredisks.com/

>>>>>>>>> And they restore your machine to exactly the same as factory
>>>>>>>>> restore discs do. Same applications, drivers, etc. The only
>>>>>>>>> thing that was different was it was Windows XP with a SATA
>>>>>>>>> drive, the SATA driver wasn't slipstreamed on the XP install
>>>>>>>>> disc. But it was included on the drivers disc. And if your
>>>>>>>>> machine came with something like MS Office, they send you
>>>>>>>>> that too.

>>>>>>>> Handy to know about such an alternative.  Thanks.

>>>>>>> I always clone my restore disks as well as creating ISO images
>>>>>>> of them. I do this immediately I receive a new computer.

>>>>>> Irrelevant to what can be justified rationally.

>>>>>> Just because you do it that way, doesnt mean that everyone else should.

>>>>>>> If the computer doesn't come with CD or DVD restore disks,
>>>>>>> I create them. My ISO images are backed up to offsite
>>>>>>> storage. Original and created disks go to a fireproof safe.

>>>>>> Hell of a lot of farting around for very little useful result.

>>>>>>> I see way too many people who don't take any care at all with
>>>>>>> their media. Can't have a lot of sympathy for them when their
>>>>>>> hard disk goes belly up!

>>>>>> There are plenty of viable alternatives backup wise that are
>>>>>> much more useful than your mindlessly anal approach.

>>>>> Ok wise one, please give us your approaches....

>>>> Backup to other drives on other PCs than the one being backed
>>>> up and the whole collection on an external drive to a physically
>>>> separate location so you are covered if the house burns down,
>>>> floats away, or the entire house is looted by some damned druggy.

>>>> No point in being so obsessively anal with the restore disks,
>>>> the full image of the hard drive is all you actually need.

>>> Ok, your approach is fine IMO (others might consider yours extreme)

>> Yes, particularly the offsite hard drive. But I do have a lot of code and
>> databases what arent replaceable. They likely wouldnt have anything
>> like that.

>>> but you assume too much when you put someone else's down.

>> Nope, not with that mindless anal approach with the physical recovery media.

>> There is no point in even bothering if you have full images of the entire physical drive.

>>> Not in terms of who has the better approach but rather that they may not
>>> be able to do your approach ... ie: finances, transportation, health, etc.. .

>> You dont need anything like that to image the physical drive so you
>> dont need the physical recovery media so mindlessly anally archived.

>> In fact my approach costs absolutely nothing given that you do need
>> decent backups of you create much at all personally that cant be replaced.

>>> I won't get into a pissing match with you over how many are
>>> just plain stupid, lazy or forgetful vs. the reasons I stated above.

>>> there are different degrees to accomplish this.

>> And that obsessively anal approach to dozens of copys of the
>> recovery media is just mindlessly silly and never makes sense at all.

>>> Or to put it another way... different strokes for different folks.

>> Wrong, as always with that mindlessly anal approach to the recovery
>> media I commented on.

> I have no problem with your image approach but when you say offsite,
> that's what I was referring to earlier.   That's not so easy for some
> for the reasons I already stated.

Thats just plain wrong. Its a small part of the cost of the system it
a backup for unless the individual uses PCs obtained for free by
dumpster diving etc in which case one of the drives from one of
those systems can be used for the offsite storage, again for free.

> OT but your use of the word "anal"  brought back memories.  Aren't you the
> same Rod Speed years ago that many in other newsgroups called a TROLL ?

Only the fools that got fucked over very comprehensively indeed and
had no alternative but to try to find the worst insult they could find and
were so pathetically inadequate that that was the best they could manage.

They wouldnt know what a reall troll was if one bit them on their lard arse.

> I used to browse many other newsgroups (I don't
> nowadays) and recall reading others calling you out.

That never happened. The most that ever happened was that some fools
desperately attempted to bullshit their way out of their predicament when
their terminal stupiditys were exposed for the world to laugh at and they
didnt like that.

> If I'm right, you still use the same vocabulary as you did then.

So does everyone.

> If I'm wrong, then you picked a bad handle to go by.

Taint a handle, its my name. I dont cower behind a pathetic excuse for nick like you do.

> And if I'm right, you and I go way back.

Yep, you never could get a damned thing right. 

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#1057

On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:28:35 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>RnR wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> RnR wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> RnR wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Krypsis wrote
>>>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote
>>>>>>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom>  wrote
>>>>>>>>>> GMAN wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock<andymhanc...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> BillW50 <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacing lost recovery discs cost in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order of $66, and takes time for delivery.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are places that will sell you restore discs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for about 25 bucks. I've used them before.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Acknowledged.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For something as foundational as virgin factory settings,
>>>>>>>>>>>> however, I would go for the assurance of original vendor
>>>>>>>>>>>> recovery discs, if only for the hope of getting drivers and
>>>>>>>>>>>> such that are tailored to the machine.
>
>>>>>>>>>>> What the other poster meant was that if the manufacturer of
>>>>>>>>>>> the PC like HP or gateway no longer sells or supplies the disk,
>>>>>>>>>>> you can sometimes get the exact same disks from a 3rd party.
>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes that is what I mean. I bought one set from:
>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.restoredisks.com/
>
>>>>>>>>>> And they restore your machine to exactly the same as factory
>>>>>>>>>> restore discs do. Same applications, drivers, etc. The only
>>>>>>>>>> thing that was different was it was Windows XP with a SATA
>>>>>>>>>> drive, the SATA driver wasn't slipstreamed on the XP install
>>>>>>>>>> disc. But it was included on the drivers disc. And if your
>>>>>>>>>> machine came with something like MS Office, they send you
>>>>>>>>>> that too.
>
>>>>>>>>> Handy to know about such an alternative.  Thanks.
>
>>>>>>>> I always clone my restore disks as well as creating ISO images
>>>>>>>> of them. I do this immediately I receive a new computer.
>
>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what can be justified rationally.
>
>>>>>>> Just because you do it that way, doesnt mean that everyone else should.
>
>>>>>>>> If the computer doesn't come with CD or DVD restore disks,
>>>>>>>> I create them. My ISO images are backed up to offsite
>>>>>>>> storage. Original and created disks go to a fireproof safe.
>
>>>>>>> Hell of a lot of farting around for very little useful result.
>
>>>>>>>> I see way too many people who don't take any care at all with
>>>>>>>> their media. Can't have a lot of sympathy for them when their
>>>>>>>> hard disk goes belly up!
>
>>>>>>> There are plenty of viable alternatives backup wise that are
>>>>>>> much more useful than your mindlessly anal approach.
>
>>>>>> Ok wise one, please give us your approaches....
>
>>>>> Backup to other drives on other PCs than the one being backed
>>>>> up and the whole collection on an external drive to a physically
>>>>> separate location so you are covered if the house burns down,
>>>>> floats away, or the entire house is looted by some damned druggy.
>
>>>>> No point in being so obsessively anal with the restore disks,
>>>>> the full image of the hard drive is all you actually need.
>
>>>> Ok, your approach is fine IMO (others might consider yours extreme)
>
>>> Yes, particularly the offsite hard drive. But I do have a lot of code and
>>> databases what arent replaceable. They likely wouldnt have anything
>>> like that.
>
>>>> but you assume too much when you put someone else's down.
>
>>> Nope, not with that mindless anal approach with the physical recovery media.
>
>>> There is no point in even bothering if you have full images of the entire physical drive.
>
>>>> Not in terms of who has the better approach but rather that they may not
>>>> be able to do your approach ... ie: finances, transportation, health, etc.. .
>
>>> You dont need anything like that to image the physical drive so you
>>> dont need the physical recovery media so mindlessly anally archived.
>
>>> In fact my approach costs absolutely nothing given that you do need
>>> decent backups of you create much at all personally that cant be replaced.
>
>>>> I won't get into a pissing match with you over how many are
>>>> just plain stupid, lazy or forgetful vs. the reasons I stated above.
>
>>>> there are different degrees to accomplish this.
>
>>> And that obsessively anal approach to dozens of copys of the
>>> recovery media is just mindlessly silly and never makes sense at all.
>
>>>> Or to put it another way... different strokes for different folks.
>
>>> Wrong, as always with that mindlessly anal approach to the recovery
>>> media I commented on.
>
>> I have no problem with your image approach but when you say offsite,
>> that's what I was referring to earlier.   That's not so easy for some
>> for the reasons I already stated.
>
>Thats just plain wrong. Its a small part of the cost of the system it
>a backup for unless the individual uses PCs obtained for free by
>dumpster diving etc in which case one of the drives from one of
>those systems can be used for the offsite storage, again for free.
>
>> OT but your use of the word "anal"  brought back memories.  Aren't you the
>> same Rod Speed years ago that many in other newsgroups called a TROLL ?
>
>Only the fools that got fucked over very comprehensively indeed and
>had no alternative but to try to find the worst insult they could find and
>were so pathetically inadequate that that was the best they could manage.
>
>They wouldnt know what a reall troll was if one bit them on their lard arse.
>
>> I used to browse many other newsgroups (I don't
>> nowadays) and recall reading others calling you out.
>
>That never happened. The most that ever happened was that some fools
>desperately attempted to bullshit their way out of their predicament when
>their terminal stupiditys were exposed for the world to laugh at and they
>didnt like that.
>
>> If I'm right, you still use the same vocabulary as you did then.
>
>So does everyone.
>
>> If I'm wrong, then you picked a bad handle to go by.
>
>Taint a handle, its my name. I dont cower behind a pathetic excuse for nick like you do.
>
>> And if I'm right, you and I go way back.
>
>Yep, you never could get a damned thing right. 
>

According to who?  LOL

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#1058

On 23/01/12 20:55, RnR wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:28:35 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> RnR wrote
>>> Rod Speed<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>  wrote
>>>> RnR wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>  wrote
>>>>>> RnR wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>  wrote
>>>>>>>> Krypsis wrote
>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote
>>>>>>>>>> BillW50<Bill...@aol.kom>   wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> GMAN wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock<andymhanc...@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BillW50<Bill...@aol.kom>  wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacing lost recovery discs cost in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order of $66, and takes time for delivery.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are places that will sell you restore discs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for about 25 bucks. I've used them before.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acknowledged.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For something as foundational as virgin factory settings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, I would go for the assurance of original vendor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recovery discs, if only for the hope of getting drivers and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> such that are tailored to the machine.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What the other poster meant was that if the manufacturer of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the PC like HP or gateway no longer sells or supplies the disk,
>>>>>>>>>>>> you can sometimes get the exact same disks from a 3rd party.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes that is what I mean. I bought one set from:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.restoredisks.com/
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And they restore your machine to exactly the same as factory
>>>>>>>>>>> restore discs do. Same applications, drivers, etc. The only
>>>>>>>>>>> thing that was different was it was Windows XP with a SATA
>>>>>>>>>>> drive, the SATA driver wasn't slipstreamed on the XP install
>>>>>>>>>>> disc. But it was included on the drivers disc. And if your
>>>>>>>>>>> machine came with something like MS Office, they send you
>>>>>>>>>>> that too.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Handy to know about such an alternative.  Thanks.
>>
>>>>>>>>> I always clone my restore disks as well as creating ISO images
>>>>>>>>> of them. I do this immediately I receive a new computer.
>>
>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what can be justified rationally.
>>
>>>>>>>> Just because you do it that way, doesnt mean that everyone else should.
>>
>>>>>>>>> If the computer doesn't come with CD or DVD restore disks,
>>>>>>>>> I create them. My ISO images are backed up to offsite
>>>>>>>>> storage. Original and created disks go to a fireproof safe.
>>
>>>>>>>> Hell of a lot of farting around for very little useful result.
>>
>>>>>>>>> I see way too many people who don't take any care at all with
>>>>>>>>> their media. Can't have a lot of sympathy for them when their
>>>>>>>>> hard disk goes belly up!
>>
>>>>>>>> There are plenty of viable alternatives backup wise that are
>>>>>>>> much more useful than your mindlessly anal approach.
>>
>>>>>>> Ok wise one, please give us your approaches....
>>
>>>>>> Backup to other drives on other PCs than the one being backed
>>>>>> up and the whole collection on an external drive to a physically
>>>>>> separate location so you are covered if the house burns down,
>>>>>> floats away, or the entire house is looted by some damned druggy.
>>
>>>>>> No point in being so obsessively anal with the restore disks,
>>>>>> the full image of the hard drive is all you actually need.
>>
>>>>> Ok, your approach is fine IMO (others might consider yours extreme)
>>
>>>> Yes, particularly the offsite hard drive. But I do have a lot of code and
>>>> databases what arent replaceable. They likely wouldnt have anything
>>>> like that.
>>
>>>>> but you assume too much when you put someone else's down.
>>
>>>> Nope, not with that mindless anal approach with the physical recovery media.
>>
>>>> There is no point in even bothering if you have full images of the entire physical drive.
>>
>>>>> Not in terms of who has the better approach but rather that they may not
>>>>> be able to do your approach ... ie: finances, transportation, health, etc.. .
>>
>>>> You dont need anything like that to image the physical drive so you
>>>> dont need the physical recovery media so mindlessly anally archived.
>>
>>>> In fact my approach costs absolutely nothing given that you do need
>>>> decent backups of you create much at all personally that cant be replaced.
>>
>>>>> I won't get into a pissing match with you over how many are
>>>>> just plain stupid, lazy or forgetful vs. the reasons I stated above.
>>
>>>>> there are different degrees to accomplish this.
>>
>>>> And that obsessively anal approach to dozens of copys of the
>>>> recovery media is just mindlessly silly and never makes sense at all.
>>
>>>>> Or to put it another way... different strokes for different folks.
>>
>>>> Wrong, as always with that mindlessly anal approach to the recovery
>>>> media I commented on.
>>
>>> I have no problem with your image approach but when you say offsite,
>>> that's what I was referring to earlier.   That's not so easy for some
>>> for the reasons I already stated.
>>
>> Thats just plain wrong. Its a small part of the cost of the system it
>> a backup for unless the individual uses PCs obtained for free by
>> dumpster diving etc in which case one of the drives from one of
>> those systems can be used for the offsite storage, again for free.
>>
>>> OT but your use of the word "anal"  brought back memories.  Aren't you the
>>> same Rod Speed years ago that many in other newsgroups called a TROLL ?
>>
>> Only the fools that got fucked over very comprehensively indeed and
>> had no alternative but to try to find the worst insult they could find and
>> were so pathetically inadequate that that was the best they could manage.
>>
>> They wouldnt know what a reall troll was if one bit them on their lard arse.
>>
>>> I used to browse many other newsgroups (I don't
>>> nowadays) and recall reading others calling you out.
>>
>> That never happened. The most that ever happened was that some fools
>> desperately attempted to bullshit their way out of their predicament when
>> their terminal stupiditys were exposed for the world to laugh at and they
>> didnt like that.
>>
>>> If I'm right, you still use the same vocabulary as you did then.
>>
>> So does everyone.
>>
>>> If I'm wrong, then you picked a bad handle to go by.
>>
>> Taint a handle, its my name. I dont cower behind a pathetic excuse for nick like you do.
>>
>>> And if I'm right, you and I go way back.
>>
>> Yep, you never could get a damned thing right.
>>
>
> According to who?  LOL

In case you have any remaining doubts, yes, this is /the/ Rod Speed - 
the troll so famous he has his own FAQ, and dedicated "Rodbot" Rod Speed 
simulators.  His particular achievement is that he has haunted /so/ many 
Usenet groups, pretty much since the invention of Usenet, and multiple 
dial-up bulletin boards before that - and yet has loyally stuck to the 
same set of a dozen or so insults over all that time.  That's something 
like two decades of dedicated trolling and flaming without ever having 
to think up a new phrase or comment.  This probably makes him the most 
famous Usenet persona.

Cue a set of standard insults from Rod.

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#1059

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:15:02 +0100, David Brown
<david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> wrote:

>On 23/01/12 20:55, RnR wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:28:35 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> RnR wrote
>>>> Rod Speed<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>  wrote
>>>>> RnR wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>  wrote
>>>>>>> RnR wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>  wrote
>>>>>>>>> Krypsis wrote
>>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> BillW50<Bill...@aol.kom>   wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> GMAN wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock<andymhanc...@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BillW50<Bill...@aol.kom>  wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AndyHancock wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacing lost recovery discs cost in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order of $66, and takes time for delivery.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are places that will sell you restore discs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for about 25 bucks. I've used them before.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acknowledged.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For something as foundational as virgin factory settings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, I would go for the assurance of original vendor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recovery discs, if only for the hope of getting drivers and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such that are tailored to the machine.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What the other poster meant was that if the manufacturer of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the PC like HP or gateway no longer sells or supplies the disk,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can sometimes get the exact same disks from a 3rd party.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes that is what I mean. I bought one set from:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.restoredisks.com/
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And they restore your machine to exactly the same as factory
>>>>>>>>>>>> restore discs do. Same applications, drivers, etc. The only
>>>>>>>>>>>> thing that was different was it was Windows XP with a SATA
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive, the SATA driver wasn't slipstreamed on the XP install
>>>>>>>>>>>> disc. But it was included on the drivers disc. And if your
>>>>>>>>>>>> machine came with something like MS Office, they send you
>>>>>>>>>>>> that too.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Handy to know about such an alternative.  Thanks.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I always clone my restore disks as well as creating ISO images
>>>>>>>>>> of them. I do this immediately I receive a new computer.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what can be justified rationally.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just because you do it that way, doesnt mean that everyone else should.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If the computer doesn't come with CD or DVD restore disks,
>>>>>>>>>> I create them. My ISO images are backed up to offsite
>>>>>>>>>> storage. Original and created disks go to a fireproof safe.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hell of a lot of farting around for very little useful result.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I see way too many people who don't take any care at all with
>>>>>>>>>> their media. Can't have a lot of sympathy for them when their
>>>>>>>>>> hard disk goes belly up!
>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are plenty of viable alternatives backup wise that are
>>>>>>>>> much more useful than your mindlessly anal approach.
>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok wise one, please give us your approaches....
>>>
>>>>>>> Backup to other drives on other PCs than the one being backed
>>>>>>> up and the whole collection on an external drive to a physically
>>>>>>> separate location so you are covered if the house burns down,
>>>>>>> floats away, or the entire house is looted by some damned druggy.
>>>
>>>>>>> No point in being so obsessively anal with the restore disks,
>>>>>>> the full image of the hard drive is all you actually need.
>>>
>>>>>> Ok, your approach is fine IMO (others might consider yours extreme)
>>>
>>>>> Yes, particularly the offsite hard drive. But I do have a lot of code and
>>>>> databases what arent replaceable. They likely wouldnt have anything
>>>>> like that.
>>>
>>>>>> but you assume too much when you put someone else's down.
>>>
>>>>> Nope, not with that mindless anal approach with the physical recovery media.
>>>
>>>>> There is no point in even bothering if you have full images of the entire physical drive.
>>>
>>>>>> Not in terms of who has the better approach but rather that they may not
>>>>>> be able to do your approach ... ie: finances, transportation, health, etc.. .
>>>
>>>>> You dont need anything like that to image the physical drive so you
>>>>> dont need the physical recovery media so mindlessly anally archived.
>>>
>>>>> In fact my approach costs absolutely nothing given that you do need
>>>>> decent backups of you create much at all personally that cant be replaced.
>>>
>>>>>> I won't get into a pissing match with you over how many are
>>>>>> just plain stupid, lazy or forgetful vs. the reasons I stated above.
>>>
>>>>>> there are different degrees to accomplish this.
>>>
>>>>> And that obsessively anal approach to dozens of copys of the
>>>>> recovery media is just mindlessly silly and never makes sense at all.
>>>
>>>>>> Or to put it another way... different strokes for different folks.
>>>
>>>>> Wrong, as always with that mindlessly anal approach to the recovery
>>>>> media I commented on.
>>>
>>>> I have no problem with your image approach but when you say offsite,
>>>> that's what I was referring to earlier.   That's not so easy for some
>>>> for the reasons I already stated.
>>>
>>> Thats just plain wrong. Its a small part of the cost of the system it
>>> a backup for unless the individual uses PCs obtained for free by
>>> dumpster diving etc in which case one of the drives from one of
>>> those systems can be used for the offsite storage, again for free.
>>>
>>>> OT but your use of the word "anal"  brought back memories.  Aren't you the
>>>> same Rod Speed years ago that many in other newsgroups called a TROLL ?
>>>
>>> Only the fools that got fucked over very comprehensively indeed and
>>> had no alternative but to try to find the worst insult they could find and
>>> were so pathetically inadequate that that was the best they could manage.
>>>
>>> They wouldnt know what a reall troll was if one bit them on their lard arse.
>>>
>>>> I used to browse many other newsgroups (I don't
>>>> nowadays) and recall reading others calling you out.
>>>
>>> That never happened. The most that ever happened was that some fools
>>> desperately attempted to bullshit their way out of their predicament when
>>> their terminal stupiditys were exposed for the world to laugh at and they
>>> didnt like that.
>>>
>>>> If I'm right, you still use the same vocabulary as you did then.
>>>
>>> So does everyone.
>>>
>>>> If I'm wrong, then you picked a bad handle to go by.
>>>
>>> Taint a handle, its my name. I dont cower behind a pathetic excuse for nick like you do.
>>>
>>>> And if I'm right, you and I go way back.
>>>
>>> Yep, you never could get a damned thing right.
>>>
>>
>> According to who?  LOL
>
>In case you have any remaining doubts, yes, this is /the/ Rod Speed - 
>the troll so famous he has his own FAQ, and dedicated "Rodbot" Rod Speed 
>simulators.  His particular achievement is that he has haunted /so/ many 
>Usenet groups, pretty much since the invention of Usenet, and multiple 
>dial-up bulletin boards before that - and yet has loyally stuck to the 
>same set of a dozen or so insults over all that time.  That's something 
>like two decades of dedicated trolling and flaming without ever having 
>to think up a new phrase or comment.  This probably makes him the most 
>famous Usenet persona.
>
>Cue a set of standard insults from Rod.


Thanks David now I know my memory hasn't failed me yet <grin>.   I
almost forgot about him ...  after all these years, he's still around
using the same vocabulary.   I recall some of his arguments but I
won't get into it here.   I'm getting too off topic as it is now.
Regards...

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