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| Started by | "Josh Rodd" <joshua.at.rodd.dot.us@rodd.us> |
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| First post | 2026-08-10 23:38 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-08-16 08:41 -0500 |
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IBM 4019 ROMs "Josh Rodd" <joshua.at.rodd.dot.us@rodd.us> - 2026-08-10 23:38 +0000
Re: IBM 4019 ROMs Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> - 2026-08-10 22:03 -0500
Re: IBM 4019 ROMs Rick Ekblaw <ekblaw@vnet.ibm.com> - 2026-08-12 18:51 -0400
Re: IBM 4019 ROMs "Josh Rodd" <joshua.at.rodd.dot.us@rodd.us> - 2026-08-16 12:50 +0000
Re: IBM 4019 ROMs "Peter H. Wendt" <peterwendt@mcamafia.de> - 2026-08-13 01:12 +0200
Re: IBM 4019 ROMs "Josh Rodd" <joshua.at.rodd.dot.us@rodd.us> - 2026-08-16 12:50 +0000
Auction: NEW OLD STOCK IBM LASER PRINTER FONT CARD 1255802 prestige elite Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> - 2026-08-16 08:21 -0500
Auction: IBM 1255827 LASER PRINTER FONT CARD Cursive 12 14 18 point 14783 41803 41803 Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> - 2026-08-16 08:25 -0500
Downloadable fonts IBM 4019 ROMs Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> - 2026-08-16 08:35 -0500
Font Cards Re: IBM 4019 ROMs Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> - 2026-08-16 08:41 -0500
| From | "Josh Rodd" <joshua.at.rodd.dot.us@rodd.us> |
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| Date | 2026-08-10 23:38 +0000 |
| Subject | IBM 4019 ROMs |
| Message-ID | <6a7a6112.f4ebe97569c5ae7f@csiph.com> |
Has anyone bothered to dump the ROMs from the IBM 4019 yet? If not, it may be time to disassemble one of the things, find the ROMs, and dump them... or worse still, one of the IBM 4029s. I'm specifically looking for the font images in them, as they appear to have never been archived or captured anywhere else. (Quite a rarity these days to find anything like that.)
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| From | Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-10 22:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <115e3en$117a$1@csiph.com> |
| In reply to | #71537 |
No luck here, I had a 4049 for over ten years. Josh Rodd wrote: > Has anyone bothered to dump the ROMs from the IBM 4019 yet? > > If not, it may be time to disassemble one of the things, find the ROMs, > and dump them... or worse still, one of the IBM 4029s. > > I'm specifically looking for the font images in them, as they appear to > have never been archived or captured anywhere else. (Quite a rarity > these days to find anything like that.) >
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| From | Rick Ekblaw <ekblaw@vnet.ibm.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 18:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <115itdj$ug7$2@csiph.com> |
| In reply to | #71537 |
Josh Rodd wrote: > Has anyone bothered to dump the ROMs from the IBM 4019 yet? No, I trashed my 4019s and 4029s years ago. I might still have the Postscript font diskettes lying around somewhere.
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| From | "Josh Rodd" <joshua.at.rodd.dot.us@rodd.us> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 12:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6a81b213.ee8482ac27e1bf6a@csiph.com> |
| In reply to | #71544 |
Rick Ekblaw <ekblaw@vnet.ibm.com> wrote: > Josh Rodd wrote: > > Has anyone bothered to dump the ROMs from the IBM 4019 yet? > > No, I trashed my 4019s and 4029s years ago. I might still have the > Postscript font diskettes lying around somewhere. The soft font diskettes would be extremely helpful.
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| From | "Peter H. Wendt" <peterwendt@mcamafia.de> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 01:12 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <115iuld$n9ff$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71537 |
Hi Josh ! > Has anyone bothered to dump the ROMs from the IBM 4019 yet? I still have the ruined 4019 in my basement that had been run until its mechanics quit. And I could pull the ROMs at some time and get them read if you need them. And I *think* I even have sets of spare ROMs at someplace left overs from the time I was servicing these machines on a daily basis. -- Very friendly greetings from Peter in Germany http://www.mcamafia.de/
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| From | "Josh Rodd" <joshua.at.rodd.dot.us@rodd.us> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 12:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6a81b204.1ea51bb59f73811e@csiph.com> |
| In reply to | #71545 |
"Peter H. Wendt" <peterwendt@mcamafia.de> wrote: > Hi Josh ! > > > Has anyone bothered to dump the ROMs from the IBM 4019 yet? > > I still have the ruined 4019 in my basement that had been run until its > mechanics quit. And I could pull the ROMs at some time and get them read > if you need them. And I *think* I even have sets of spare ROMs at > someplace left overs from the time I was servicing these machines on a > daily basis. > > -- > Very friendly greetings from Peter in Germany > http://www.mcamafia.de/ I am halfway thru creating a PPDS "emulator" (that will convert PPDS data streams to a .PNG, PostScript, a PDF, etc., or send it to another printing system like CUPS). A major missing piece is that I don't have the Courier or Boldface PS built in fonts. Having multiple versions of the ROMs would be very interesting... might lead to being able to do a full emulation of it.
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| From | Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 08:21 -0500 |
| Subject | Auction: NEW OLD STOCK IBM LASER PRINTER FONT CARD 1255802 prestige elite |
| Message-ID | <115sdhi$1c2l$1@csiph.com> |
| In reply to | #71548 |
https://www.ebay.com/itm/278177847003 Josh Rodd wrote: > "Peter H. Wendt" <peterwendt@mcamafia.de> wrote: >> Hi Josh ! >> >>> Has anyone bothered to dump the ROMs from the IBM 4019 yet? >> >> I still have the ruined 4019 in my basement that had been run until its >> mechanics quit. And I could pull the ROMs at some time and get them read >> if you need them. And I *think* I even have sets of spare ROMs at >> someplace left overs from the time I was servicing these machines on a >> daily basis. >> >> -- >> Very friendly greetings from Peter in Germany >> http://www.mcamafia.de/ > > I am halfway thru creating a PPDS "emulator" (that will convert PPDS > data streams to a .PNG, PostScript, a PDF, etc., or send it to another > printing system like CUPS). A major missing piece is that I don't have > the Courier or Boldface PS built in fonts. > > Having multiple versions of the ROMs would be very interesting... might > lead to being able to do a full emulation of it. >
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| From | Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 08:25 -0500 |
| Subject | Auction: IBM 1255827 LASER PRINTER FONT CARD Cursive 12 14 18 point 14783 41803 41803 |
| Message-ID | <115sdoo$1c6a$1@csiph.com> |
| In reply to | #71548 |
https://www.ebay.com/itm/163619240098 Josh Rodd wrote: > "Peter H. Wendt" <peterwendt@mcamafia.de> wrote: >> Hi Josh ! >> >>> Has anyone bothered to dump the ROMs from the IBM 4019 yet? >> >> I still have the ruined 4019 in my basement that had been run until its >> mechanics quit. And I could pull the ROMs at some time and get them read >> if you need them. And I *think* I even have sets of spare ROMs at >> someplace left overs from the time I was servicing these machines on a >> daily basis. >> >> -- >> Very friendly greetings from Peter in Germany >> http://www.mcamafia.de/ > > I am halfway thru creating a PPDS "emulator" (that will convert PPDS > data streams to a .PNG, PostScript, a PDF, etc., or send it to another > printing system like CUPS). A major missing piece is that I don't have > the Courier or Boldface PS built in fonts. > > Having multiple versions of the ROMs would be very interesting... might > lead to being able to do a full emulation of it. >
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| From | Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 08:35 -0500 |
| Subject | Downloadable fonts IBM 4019 ROMs |
| Message-ID | <115seal$1ch3$1@csiph.com> |
| In reply to | #71537 |
Now at least we know the P/N. These are not the fonts themselves ;)
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/announcements/archive/ENUS189-153
Downloadable Fonts (8)
Fixed Pitch 1039401
Times Roman (9), 36 - 60 points 1039402
Times Roman, 6 - 30 points 1039403
Helvetica (9), 36 - 60 points 1039404
Helvetica, 6 - 30 points 1039405
Testimonial/Engravers' Old English/ 1039406
Cursive
Palatino (9) 1039407
Optima (9) 1039408
Goudy Old Style 1039409
Baskerville 1039410
Century Schoolbook 1039411
Futura 1039412
Font Cards (8)
Universal 1255800
Italic 1255801
Prestige 1255802
Letter Gothic 1255803
Delegate 1255804
Script/OCR 1255805
Orator 1255806
Compressed 1255807
Press Roman 1255808
Foundry 1255809
Turkey 1255810
Hebrew 1 1255811
Canadian French 1255812
Arabic 1 1255813
Japan 1255814
Greek 1255815
Latin 2 1255816
Cyrillic 1255817
Arabic 2 1255818
Hebrew 2 1255819
Testimonial 1255820
Engraver's Old English 1255821
Times Roman, 12 - 18 points 1255822
Times Roman, 6 - 10 points 1255823
Combo 1255824
Helvetica, 12 - 18 points 1255825
Helvetica, 6 - 10 points 1255826
Cursive 1255827
Palatino, 12 - 18 points 1255828
Palatino, 6 - 10 points 1255829
Optima, 12 - 18 points 1255830
Optima, 6 - 10 points 1255831
Century Schoolbook, 12 - 18 points 1255832
Century Schoolbook, 6 - 10 points 1255833
Goudy Old Style, 12 - 18 points 1255834
Goudy Old Style, 6 - 10 points 1255835
Baskerville, 12 - 18 points 1255836
Baskerville, 6 - 10 points 1255837
Futura, 12 - 18 points 1255838
Futura, 6 - 10 points 1255839
Hebrew 3 1255840
Supports M (10) 1255841
Supports R (10) 1255842
Supports U/V (10) 1255843
Supports Z (Press Roman) (10) 1255844
Supports Z (Swiss) (10) 1255845
Supports Resident (11) 1255846
Supports N (10) 1255847
(8) See Supplies/Options Catalog for detail on content.
(9) Times Roman, Helvetica, Palatino, and Optima are trademarks of
Linotype AG and/or its subsidiaries.
(10) For use with data streams for Hewlett-Packard LaserJet series
II Printer.
(11) For use with data streams for Hewlett-Packard LaserJet series
IID Printer.
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| From | Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 08:41 -0500 |
| Subject | Font Cards Re: IBM 4019 ROMs |
| Message-ID | <115seme$1cl7$1@csiph.com> |
| In reply to | #71537 |
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/announcements/archive/ENUSZG90-0141
Font cards for 4019E, which is 4019 compatible. These are NOT the font
cards themselves...
Font Cards (Note 1)
Universal 1255800
Italic 1255801
Prestige 1255802
Letter Gothic 1255803
Delegate 1255804
Script/OCR 1255805
Orator 1255806
Compressed 1255807
Press Roman 1255808
Foundry 1255809
Turkey 1255810
Hebrew 1 1255811
Canadian French 1255812
Arabic 1 1255813
Japan 1255814
Greek 1255815
Latin 2 1255816
Cyrillic 1255817
Arabic 2 1255818
Hebrew 2 1255819
Testimonial 1255820
Engraver's Old English 1255821
Times Roman 12 - 18 points 1255822
Times Roman 6 - 10 points 1255823
Combo 1255824
Helvetica 12 - 18 points 1255825
Helvetica 6 - 10 points 1255826
* Times Roman, Helvetica, Palatino and Optima are trademarks of
Linotype AG and/or its subsidiaries.
Cursive 1255827
Palatino* 12 - 18 points 1255828
Palatino 6 - 10 points 1255829
Optima* 12 - 18 points 1255830
Optima 6 - 10 points 1255831
Century Schoolbook 12 - 18 points 1255832
Century Schoolbook 6 - 10 points 1255833
Goudy Old Style 12 - 18 points 1255834
Goudy Old Style 6 - 10 points 1255835
Baskerville 12 - 18 points 1255836
Baskerville 6 - 10 points 1255837
Futura 12 - 18 points 1255838
Futura 6 - 10 points 1255839
Hebrew 3 1255840
Supports M ** 1255841
Supports R ** 1255842
Supports U/V ** 1255843
Supports Z (Press Roman)** 1255844
Supports Z (Swiss) ** 1255845
Supports Resident *** 1255846
Supports N ** 1255847
* Palatino and Optima are trademarks of Linotype AG and/or its
subsidiaries.
** For use with data streams for Hewlett-Packard LaserJet series
II Printer
*** For use with data streams for Hewlett-Packard LaserJet series
IID Printer
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