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What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024

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  What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-07-01 17:03 +0000
    Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-01 17:20 +0000
    Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-01 15:40 -0700
      Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-07-02 18:47 +0000
    Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-07-01 18:21 -0700
      Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-02 14:50 +0000
        Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-07-02 18:28 -0700
          Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-03 14:30 +0000
    Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Ross Ridge) - 2024-07-02 18:09 +0000
      EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-07-02 18:58 +0000
        Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-03 11:00 -0400
          Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-07-03 16:38 +0000
            Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-03 17:43 -0400
              Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-07-03 22:18 +0000
                Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-07-18 14:02 +0000
          Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> - 2024-07-04 11:25 -0400
        Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-07-15 18:30 +0000
          Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) Zersterer <nochsfentor@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-15 15:17 -0500
          Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-16 08:58 -0400
            Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-07-16 18:01 +0000
              Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> - 2024-07-16 20:14 -0400
                Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-17 08:58 -0400
                  Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-07-17 16:10 +0000
                    Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> - 2024-07-17 13:33 -0400
                      Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-07-18 14:01 +0000
            Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-24 08:17 -0700
              Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024) Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> - 2024-07-25 07:38 -0400
      Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-03 10:56 -0400
    Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 "rms" <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> - 2024-07-02 17:16 -0600
      Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-03 07:54 -0700
    Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 Zersterer <nochsfentor@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-06 06:32 -0500
    Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 H1M3M <wipnoah@gmail.com> - 2024-07-09 09:01 +0200
      Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2024-07-09 06:56 -0700
        Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 JAB <noway@nochance.com> - 2024-07-10 09:54 +0100
      Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-10 13:50 +0000
        Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 H1M3M <wipnoah@gmail.com> - 2024-07-11 13:36 +0200
          Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-13 16:30 +0000
            Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 "rms" <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> - 2024-07-13 20:10 -0600
            Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 H1M3M <wipnoah@gmail.com> - 2024-07-15 09:39 +0200
              Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024 candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-16 15:10 +0000

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#46423 — What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2024-07-01 17:03 +0000
SubjectWhat Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024
Message-ID<sKmcnZEg4ojyfB_7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com>
I guess I'll start! 

I finished Diablo 4's main campaign. I started playing EVE Online. :P
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#46426

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2024-07-01 17:20 +0000
Message-ID<slrnv85osb.2b11.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#46423
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 17:03 this Monday (GMT):
> I guess I'll start! 
>
> I finished Diablo 4's main campaign. I started playing EVE Online. :P


A /lot/ of stardew and Phoenix Wright. I actually managed to finish the
mainline and VS Layton. I'm currently playing thru the 3ds layton games
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#46431

FromJustisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
Date2024-07-01 15:40 -0700
Message-ID<v5vb9n$19gkm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#46423
On 7/1/2024 10:03 AM, Ant wrote:
> I guess I'll start!
> 
> I finished Diablo 4's main campaign. I started playing EVE Online. :P

How was Diablo 4?

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#46454

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2024-07-02 18:47 +0000
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In reply to#46431
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 7/1/2024 10:03 AM, Ant wrote:
> > I guess I'll start!
> > 
> > I finished Diablo 4's main campaign. I started playing EVE Online. :P

> How was Diablo 4?

It was decent. 
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#46434

FromDimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
Date2024-07-01 18:21 -0700
Message-ID<v5vkms$1aunr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#46423
Mostly 'Rise to Ruins' with some 'Stardew Valley' and 'My Time at 
Sandrock' thrown in.

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#46445

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2024-07-02 14:50 +0000
Message-ID<slrnv884mc.3c14.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#46434
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 01:21 this Tuesday (GMT):
> Mostly 'Rise to Ruins' with some 'Stardew Valley' and 'My Time at 
> Sandrock' thrown in.


Oh nice! How far are you into Stardew?
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#46460

FromDimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
Date2024-07-02 18:28 -0700
Message-ID<v629fo$1satp$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#46445
On 7/2/2024 7:50 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 01:21 this Tuesday (GMT):
>> Mostly 'Rise to Ruins' with some 'Stardew Valley' and 'My Time at
>> Sandrock' thrown in.
> 
> 
> Oh nice! How far are you into Stardew?

In this run?  Almost have all the walnuts on Ginger Island.  Somewhere 
in year 3 or maybe 4.

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#46470

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2024-07-03 14:30 +0000
Message-ID<slrnv8anod.4een.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#46460
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 01:28 this Wednesday (GMT):
> On 7/2/2024 7:50 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 01:21 this Tuesday (GMT):
>>> Mostly 'Rise to Ruins' with some 'Stardew Valley' and 'My Time at
>>> Sandrock' thrown in.
>> 
>> 
>> Oh nice! How far are you into Stardew?
>
> In this run?  Almost have all the walnuts on Ginger Island.  Somewhere 
> in year 3 or maybe 4.


Oh nice! I just started a new game a few weeks ago, still on Winter Yr1
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#46451

Fromrridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Ross Ridge)
Date2024-07-02 18:09 +0000
Message-ID<v61fnu$1o3a6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#46423
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>I finished Diablo 4's main campaign. I started playing EVE Online. :P

If you have any problems with EVE Onlines steep difficulty curve feel
to ask questions here and I can probably answer them.

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#46455 — EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2024-07-02 18:58 +0000
SubjectEVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)
Message-ID<C0CdnfSbH_5U0Bn7nZ2dnZfqnPiWy52d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#46451
Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> >I finished Diablo 4's main campaign. I started playing EVE Online. :P

> If you have any problems with EVE Onlines steep difficulty curve feel
> to ask questions here and I can probably answer them.

It's a lot to learn. It seems like a grinding game too. :/
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#46478 — Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)

FromMike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
Date2024-07-03 11:00 -0400
SubjectRe: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)
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In reply to#46455
On Tue, 02 Jul 2024 18:58:17 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>It's a lot to learn. It seems like a grinding game too. :/

You don't have to learn everything. You pick a career path and learn
what you need to for that path. I don't recommend mining unless you
group up with others. It gets boring doing that solo. That was my
first mistake in EVE online. It was not my last.

As for grinding... well... it is an MMORPG.

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#46481 — Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2024-07-03 16:38 +0000
SubjectRe: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)
Message-ID<kQqdnYK7Rp0V4xj7nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#46478
Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jul 2024 18:58:17 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >It's a lot to learn. It seems like a grinding game too. :/

> You don't have to learn everything. You pick a career path and learn
> what you need to for that path. I don't recommend mining unless you
> group up with others. It gets boring doing that solo. That was my
> first mistake in EVE online. It was not my last.

> As for grinding... well... it is an MMORPG.

I did do mining during training. Yep, boring. Ha. I just want to do quick fights!

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#46487 — Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)

FromMike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
Date2024-07-03 17:43 -0400
SubjectRe: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)
Message-ID<kbhb8jlcschdhdepkh677comdqdj1qi7kb@4ax.com>
In reply to#46481
On Wed, 03 Jul 2024 16:38:32 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>I did do mining during training. Yep, boring. Ha. I just want to do quick fights!

I run missions for agents to get into combat. Not sure if that is the
best or quickest way to get into fights but it worked for me.

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#46489 — Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2024-07-03 22:18 +0000
SubjectRe: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)
Message-ID<MvicnS226cOCUxj7nZ2dnZfqnPQAAAAA@earthlink.com>
In reply to#46487
Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jul 2024 16:38:32 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >I did do mining during training. Yep, boring. Ha. I just want to do quick fights!

> I run missions for agents to get into combat. Not sure if that is the
> best or quickest way to get into fights but it worked for me.

Yep, I did a few already.
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#46752 — Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2024-07-18 14:02 +0000
SubjectRe: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)
Message-ID<UtGcnTrfxKHDvQT7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#46489
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 03 Jul 2024 16:38:32 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> > >I did do mining during training. Yep, boring. Ha. I just want to do quick fights!

> > I run missions for agents to get into combat. Not sure if that is the
> > best or quickest way to get into fights but it worked for me.

> Yep, I did a few already.

I played more last night. I finally passed a few more missions, and then got stuck again. I decided no more so I uninstalled and regained 15 GB! Now, I need a new PC game. Ha. :P
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#46500 — Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)

FromXocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com>
Date2024-07-04 11:25 -0400
SubjectRe: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)
Message-ID<1hfd8j14bhmgqh0hojeclq31gajrnl3svg@4ax.com>
In reply to#46478
Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the
porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>On Tue, 02 Jul 2024 18:58:17 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>
>>It's a lot to learn. It seems like a grinding game too. :/
>
>You don't have to learn everything. You pick a career path and learn
>what you need to for that path. I don't recommend mining unless you
>group up with others. It gets boring doing that solo. That was my
>first mistake in EVE online. It was not my last.

You just have to do it right.

I remember mining in a battleship, mining 7 asteroids simultaneously and
transferring the ore to a can which I then later moved then hauled in to
sell.   Since I only had to shift ore from hold to can every few
minutes, I watched a Season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer while I mined.

Other alternatives - a good book, or reading online news or whatever in
a non maximized browser so you could see when you needed to shift ore.

Xocyll

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#46699 — Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2024-07-15 18:30 +0000
SubjectRe: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)
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In reply to#46455
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> > Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > >I finished Diablo 4's main campaign. I started playing EVE Online. :P

> > If you have any problems with EVE Onlines steep difficulty curve feel
> > to ask questions here and I can probably answer them.

> It's a lot to learn. It seems like a grinding game too. :/

I think I am going to stop and uninstall it soon. :(
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#46707 — Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)

FromZersterer <nochsfentor@yahoo.com>
Date2024-07-15 15:17 -0500
SubjectRe: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)
Message-ID<lfleemF3eclU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#46699
Ant wrote:
> Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>> Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>>>> I finished Diablo 4's main campaign. I started playing EVE Online. :P
> 
>>> If you have any problems with EVE Onlines steep difficulty curve feel
>>> to ask questions here and I can probably answer them.
> 
>> It's a lot to learn. It seems like a grinding game too. :/
> 
> I think I am going to stop and uninstall it soon. :(
> 
I quit because the missions are rough and there's only four of them, by 
difficulty.  Couldn't they have twisted it up some like Ultima does?

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#46712 — Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)

FromMike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
Date2024-07-16 08:58 -0400
SubjectRe: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)
Message-ID<p9rc9j94gbh9c1ofnq9kq0cmtcjp2bq07d@4ax.com>
In reply to#46699
On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 18:30:19 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>I think I am going to stop and uninstall it soon. :(

Based on what I think I know of your gaming preferences, I personally
never would have recommended this game to you. It requires too much of
your time and it is a slow paced game.

If you want to try another MMO in the future, give City of Heroes a
try on the Homecoming server. You *may* find that one more to your
liking.

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#46724 — Re: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2024-07-16 18:01 +0000
SubjectRe: EVE Online (was Re: What Have You Been Playing... IN JUNE 2024)
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In reply to#46712
Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 18:30:19 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >I think I am going to stop and uninstall it soon. :(

> Based on what I think I know of your gaming preferences, I personally
> never would have recommended this game to you. It requires too much of
> your time and it is a slow paced game.

> If you want to try another MMO in the future, give City of Heroes a
> try on the Homecoming server. You *may* find that one more to your
> liking.

I played City of Villains' free beta something. It was cool.
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