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  Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Antoine Vignau <antoine.vignau@laposte.net> - 2015-07-13 04:29 -0700
    Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Hugh Hood <hughhood@earthlink.net> - 2015-07-13 08:26 -0500
      Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 14:34 -0400
        Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Ivan X <ivanx%ivanx.com@gtempaccount.com> - 2015-07-13 20:04 -0700
    Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2015-07-13 20:29 +0000
    Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 aiiadict@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 18:13 -0700
    Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Brandon Taylor <dmn2004404@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 07:41 -0700
    Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Brandon Taylor <dmn2004404@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 08:08 -0700
    Bug and improvement suggestion, was Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2015-07-14 20:41 +0000
      Bug and improvement suggestion, was Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Antoine Vignau <antoine.vignau@laposte.net> - 2015-07-15 04:17 -0700
    Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 08:24 -0400
      Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 06:14 -0700
        Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Antoine Vignau <antoine.vignau@laposte.net> - 2015-07-15 11:00 -0700
          Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 13:03 -0700
            Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Antoine Vignau <antoine.vignau@laposte.net> - 2015-07-15 14:13 -0700
              Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 07:46 -0700
          Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 21:04 -0400
            Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 roughana <andrew.roughan@writeme.com> - 2015-07-16 20:51 -0700
              Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 07:58 -0400
                Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Antoine Vignau <antoine.vignau@laposte.net> - 2015-07-17 14:21 -0700
                  Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2015-07-17 17:42 -0700
                    Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 20:49 -0400
                      Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Antoine Vignau <antoine.vignau@laposte.net> - 2015-07-17 22:37 -0700
                        Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2015-07-18 08:24 -0400
                          Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Antoine Vignau <antoine.vignau@laposte.net> - 2015-07-18 11:21 -0700
    Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Nicola <nvitacolonna@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 10:07 +0200
    Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 Don Schrank <don.schrank@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 19:15 -0700
      Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 kirk.millwood@gmail.com - 2015-07-24 08:32 -0700
    Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2 roughana <andrew.roughan@writeme.com> - 2015-08-03 03:25 -0700

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#25268 — Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2

What's new for Apple IIgs System 6.0.2?
After 22 years, 2 months, 2 days and 2 hours since System 6.0.1 was released, this is a summary of the visible changes. There have been many bugs fixed and many features added that are not immediately visible-they will enable developers to create better future products.  Be sure to also read the Shortcuts file on the SystemTools3 disk for more information.

Finder (see also Finder Help)
The list is FSTs now includes the RDOS 3.3 name.
You can navigate through the folders hierarchy with 'Command-Up Arrow'.

Drivers
The Ethertalk driver is now included. This is the driver for the unreleased Ethernet for Appletalk card.

File System Translators (FSTs)
The HFS.FST bug is removed. Your HFS disks are now safe!
Some bugs from the PASCAL.FST were removed.
The DOS33.FST has been corrected.

Tools
The Animation tool (tool037) is now included. It allows fast animation on the Apple IIgs.
The TextEdit bug when more than 1024 styles were used is fixed.
The Font Manager bug is now squashed.
Some bugs in the Window Manager were removed.
QuickerGraph that accelerates some drawing routines is now included. This program is unfinished and your system may become unstable if you install it.

What's next?
This is a proof-of-concept update. Updating the System Software can be done! There are other bugs in the System, let's correct them for a 6.0.3 update in a month or so...

Downloads:
2mg Disk Images: http://www.callapple.org/gsos/IIGS System 6.0.2 2mg disks.zip
PO Disk Images : http://www.callapple.org/gsos/IIGS System 6.0.2 PO disks.zip
- See more at: http://www.callapple.org/software/announcing-apple-iigs-system-6-0-2/#sthash.ugy6yLII.dpuf

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#25271

in article 81490aa3-a0d7-48d8-89f2-9a8c8ec6e364@googlegroups.com, Antoine
Vignau at antoine.vignau@laposte.net wrote on 7/13/15 6:29 AM:
> 
> Drivers
> The Ethertalk driver is now included. This is the driver for the unreleased
> Ethernet for Appletalk card.
> 


Antoine:

I have to ask. Does someone have another card up his sleeve regarding this
Ethernet/Appletalk Driver?

I certainly appreciate the ethernet card work going on these days, and the
software development that supports it.

But, it sure would be nice if those cards could add AppleTalk support.

I realize that is a _very_ tall order, but ...

In any case, congratulations on the 6.0.2 accomplishment. Impressive.






Hugh Hood
  

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#25275

On 07/13/2015 09:26 AM, Hugh Hood wrote:
> in article 81490aa3-a0d7-48d8-89f2-9a8c8ec6e364@googlegroups.com, Antoine
> Vignau at antoine.vignau@laposte.net wrote on 7/13/15 6:29 AM:
>>
>> Drivers
>> The Ethertalk driver is now included. This is the driver for the unreleased
>> Ethernet for Appletalk card.

> I have to ask. Does someone have another card up his sleeve regarding this
> Ethernet/Appletalk Driver?
>
> I certainly appreciate the ethernet card work going on these days, and the
> software development that supports it.
>
> But, it sure would be nice if those cards could add AppleTalk support.
>
> I realize that is a _very_ tall order, but ...

Wasn't the rare Apple ethernet card an intelligent device with onboard CPU? 
That might be difficult to completely supplant in software.  I thought I 
remember hearing about a reverse-engineering effort, but that may be a figment 
of my imagination.

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#25287

On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 2:34:04 PM UTC-4, Steven Hirsch wrote:

> Wasn't the rare Apple ethernet card an intelligent device with onboard CPU? 

Yes, it had a 65C02 co-processor. So did the Workstation Card that provided LocalTalk for the IIe.

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#25277

Antoine Vignau wrote:
> What's new for Apple IIgs System 6.0.2?
> After 22 years, 2 months, 2 days and 2 hours since System 6.0.1 was
> released, this is a summary of the visible changes. There have been many
> bugs fixed and many features added that are not immediately visible-they
> will enable developers to create better future products.  Be sure to also
> read the Shortcuts file on the SystemTools3 disk for more information.

Exciting news! I especially like the addition of keyboard navigation
features.

-- 
]DF$
The Marina IP stack for Apple II--
http://marina.a2hq.com/

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#25285

On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 4:29:11 AM UTC-7, Antoine Vignau wrote:
> What's new for Apple IIgs System 6.0.2?
> After 22 years, 2 months, 2 days and 2 hours since System 6.0.1 was released, this is a summary of the visible changes. There have been many bugs fixed and many features added that are not immediately visible-they will enable developers to create better future products.  Be sure to also read the Shortcuts file on the SystemTools3 disk for more information.
> 
> Finder (see also Finder Help)
> The list is FSTs now includes the RDOS 3.3 name.
> You can navigate through the folders hierarchy with 'Command-Up Arrow'.
> 
> Drivers
> The Ethertalk driver is now included. This is the driver for the unreleased Ethernet for Appletalk card.
> 
> File System Translators (FSTs)
> The HFS.FST bug is removed. Your HFS disks are now safe!
> Some bugs from the PASCAL.FST were removed.
> The DOS33.FST has been corrected.
> 
> Tools
> The Animation tool (tool037) is now included. It allows fast animation on the Apple IIgs.
> The TextEdit bug when more than 1024 styles were used is fixed.
> The Font Manager bug is now squashed.
> Some bugs in the Window Manager were removed.
> QuickerGraph that accelerates some drawing routines is now included. This program is unfinished and your system may become unstable if you install it.
> 
> What's next?
> This is a proof-of-concept update. Updating the System Software can be done! There are other bugs in the System, let's correct them for a 6.0.3 update in a month or so...
> 
> Downloads:
> 2mg Disk Images: http://www.callapple.org/gsos/IIGS System 6.0.2 2mg disks.zip
> PO Disk Images : http://www.callapple.org/gsos/IIGS System 6.0.2 PO disks.zip
> - See more at: http://www.callapple.org/software/announcing-apple-iigs-system-6-0-2/#sthash.ugy6yLII.dpuf

I never thought I would see a 2 at the end of that version number....

Who is going to add multitasking, and merge project facelift?

:-)

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#25292

On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 6:29:11 AM UTC-5, Antoine Vignau wrote:
> What's new for Apple IIgs System 6.0.2?
> After 22 years, 2 months, 2 days and 2 hours since System 6.0.1 was released, this is a summary of the visible changes. There have been many bugs fixed and many features added that are not immediately visible-they will enable developers to create better future products.  Be sure to also read the Shortcuts file on the SystemTools3 disk for more information.
> 
> Finder (see also Finder Help)
> The list is FSTs now includes the RDOS 3.3 name.
> You can navigate through the folders hierarchy with 'Command-Up Arrow'.
> 
> Drivers
> The Ethertalk driver is now included. This is the driver for the unreleased Ethernet for Appletalk card.
> 
> File System Translators (FSTs)
> The HFS.FST bug is removed. Your HFS disks are now safe!
> Some bugs from the PASCAL.FST were removed.
> The DOS33.FST has been corrected.
> 
> Tools
> The Animation tool (tool037) is now included. It allows fast animation on the Apple IIgs.
> The TextEdit bug when more than 1024 styles were used is fixed.
> The Font Manager bug is now squashed.
> Some bugs in the Window Manager were removed.
> QuickerGraph that accelerates some drawing routines is now included. This program is unfinished and your system may become unstable if you install it.
> 
> What's next?
> This is a proof-of-concept update. Updating the System Software can be done! There are other bugs in the System, let's correct them for a 6.0.3 update in a month or so...
> 
> Downloads:
> 2mg Disk Images: http://www.callapple.org/gsos/IIGS System 6.0.2 2mg disks.zip
> PO Disk Images : http://www.callapple.org/gsos/IIGS System 6.0.2 PO disks.zip
> - See more at: http://www.callapple.org/software/announcing-apple-iigs-system-6-0-2/#sthash.ugy6yLII.dpuf

The IIgs lives!!

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#25293

On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 6:29:11 AM UTC-5, Antoine Vignau wrote:
> What's new for Apple IIgs System 6.0.2?
> After 22 years, 2 months, 2 days and 2 hours since System 6.0.1 was released, this is a summary of the visible changes. There have been many bugs fixed and many features added that are not immediately visible-they will enable developers to create better future products.  Be sure to also read the Shortcuts file on the SystemTools3 disk for more information.
> 
> Finder (see also Finder Help)
> The list is FSTs now includes the RDOS 3.3 name.
> You can navigate through the folders hierarchy with 'Command-Up Arrow'.
> 
> Drivers
> The Ethertalk driver is now included. This is the driver for the unreleased Ethernet for Appletalk card.
> 
> File System Translators (FSTs)
> The HFS.FST bug is removed. Your HFS disks are now safe!
> Some bugs from the PASCAL.FST were removed.
> The DOS33.FST has been corrected.
> 
> Tools
> The Animation tool (tool037) is now included. It allows fast animation on the Apple IIgs.
> The TextEdit bug when more than 1024 styles were used is fixed.
> The Font Manager bug is now squashed.
> Some bugs in the Window Manager were removed.
> QuickerGraph that accelerates some drawing routines is now included. This program is unfinished and your system may become unstable if you install it.
> 
> What's next?
> This is a proof-of-concept update. Updating the System Software can be done! There are other bugs in the System, let's correct them for a 6.0.3 update in a month or so...
> 
> Downloads:
> 2mg Disk Images: http://www.callapple.org/gsos/IIGS System 6.0.2 2mg disks.zip
> PO Disk Images : http://www.callapple.org/gsos/IIGS System 6.0.2 PO disks.zip
> - See more at: http://www.callapple.org/software/announcing-apple-iigs-system-6-0-2/#sthash.ugy6yLII.dpuf

I don't know if anyone else has experienced this bug, but I have discovered that attempting to scroll by the windowful in Finder (by clicking in the gray scroll bar between the scroll box and one of the arrows) crashes the system, at least in GSport. Does anyone else have the same problem, e.g. by testing this on a real GS?

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#25297 — Bug and improvement suggestion, was Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2

Bug: If I have a window open and I open a document in this window with
Teach, then quit to the Finder, the window reappears, but the arrow keys
highlight icons on the desktop, even though the window is active. I want the
arrow keys to select the icons in the active window.

Improvement: make Command-down arrow work the same as command-O


PS: These keyboard navigation features and new key shortcuts are *extremely*
useful and I believe that all other users of this system will likewise
appreciate them.

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#25305 — Bug and improvement suggestion, was Re: Announcing Apple IIgs System 6.0.2

Hum... i'm sure this one is also on sys 6.0 and 6.0.1. expected behaviour would say some companies :-)
thanks, will share the info.
av

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#25307

On 07/13/2015 07:29 AM, Antoine Vignau wrote:

> What's next? This is a proof-of-concept update. Updating the System
> Software can be done! There are other bugs in the System, let's correct
> them for a 6.0.3 update in a month or so...

You might want to ping Geoff Body for permission to use his patched Appletalk 
driver in this distribution.  It fixes a number of ills that prevent IIgs 
machines from working reliably over a number of commonly available 
ethernet/localtalk bridges.

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#25308

What about all the issues that GUPP patches?  Were those fixed in 6.0.2?  I'd be afraid to apply it to 6.0.2 as things have been moved around.  

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#25310

some gupp patches were applied, not all because of them are touchy.
gupp is well programmed, if it does not find the right pattern where the patch must be applied, it does not apply it, so it is safe.

For Appletalk, we share the same code base.

av

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#25312

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 2:00:56 PM UTC-4, Antoine Vignau wrote:
> some gupp patches were applied, not all because of them are touchy.
> gupp is well programmed, if it does not find the right pattern where the patch must be applied, it does not apply it, so it is safe.

Good to hear. :)

So is 6.0.3 actually going to happen or was that just a joke?  I'm holding off on 6.0.2 until I know.

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#25315

sure. there are many things to correct and add to the system!

av

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#25327

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 5:13:41 PM UTC-4, Antoine Vignau wrote:
> sure. there are many things to correct and add to the system!
> 
> av

That's the best news I've heard all day! :)

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#25317

On 07/15/2015 02:00 PM, Antoine Vignau wrote:
> some gupp patches were applied, not all because of them are touchy. gupp is
> well programmed, if it does not find the right pattern where the patch must
> be applied, it does not apply it, so it is safe.

> For Appletalk, we share the same code base.

Same code base as... what?  Until Geoff disassembled and fixed the Appletalk 
link layer code the vast majority of ethernet/localtalk bridges failed to work 
with GS/OS.  GUPP never addressed this particular problem to the best of my 
knowledge.

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#25331

On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 11:04:14 AM UTC+10, Steven Hirsch wrote:
> On 07/15/2015 02:00 PM, Antoine Vignau wrote:
> > For Appletalk, we share the same code base.
> 
> Same code base as... what?

Geoff Body did not provide his fixes into the code base so they are not included.

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#25333

On 07/16/2015 11:51 PM, roughana wrote:
> On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 11:04:14 AM UTC+10, Steven Hirsch wrote:
>> On 07/15/2015 02:00 PM, Antoine Vignau wrote:
>>> For Appletalk, we share the same code base.
>>
>> Same code base as... what?
>
> Geoff Body did not provide his fixes into the code base so they are not included.

I'll ping Geoff privately and see if he is willing to release it.  I doubt he 
was aware of Antoine's project.

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#25339

Steven,
1. that is not my project. we have been working nearly six years on it for few results
2. if Geoff B. (Mr network)'swork was in sparta (where we were), them we have the info, otherwise we do not have and are happy to get it
3. doubts are useless, just ask

Antoine

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