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Anyone order from syndicomm? Are they out of business?

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First post2015-04-29 17:20 -0700
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  Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? oldjohnman@gmail.com - 2015-04-29 17:20 -0700
    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-04-29 21:17 -0500
      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-04-29 21:30 -0500
        Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Leandro Polimeno <leandro.polimeno@gmail.com> - 2015-04-30 08:54 -0700
          Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-04-30 15:15 -0500
          Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? SuperNewbie <SuperNewbie@nomail.com> - 2015-05-01 12:13 -0400
            Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? oldjohnman@gmail.com - 2015-05-01 12:07 -0700
      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? oldjohnman@gmail.com - 2015-04-30 07:31 -0700
        Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-04-30 15:26 -0500
          Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? oldjohnman@gmail.com - 2015-04-30 14:27 -0700
            Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Nootrac90 <nootrac90@gmail.com> - 2015-05-03 18:09 -0700
              Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? SuperNewbie <SuperNewbie@nomail.com> - 2015-05-03 22:05 -0400
                Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-04 05:31 -0500
                Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Jeff Blakeney <CUTjeffrey_blakeney@yahoo.ca> - 2015-05-04 11:44 -0400
                  Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? oldjohnman@gmail.com - 2015-05-04 10:03 -0700
                    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-04 10:10 -0700
                    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-04 19:15 -0500
                      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? oldjohnman@gmail.com - 2015-05-05 09:06 -0700
                        Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-05 17:48 -0500
                  Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-04 19:08 -0500
                Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-04 09:56 -0700
                  Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-04 19:19 -0500
                    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> - 2015-05-05 03:01 +0200
                      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? SuperNewbie <SuperNewbie@nomail.com> - 2015-05-05 00:23 -0400
                    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Jeff Blakeney <CUTjeffrey_blakeney@yahoo.ca> - 2015-05-05 11:13 -0400
              Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2015-05-04 07:55 -0400
                Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-04 09:07 -0700
                  Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-04 10:07 -0700
                Re: Anyone order from syndicomm? Are they out of business? Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2015-05-04 19:51 -0500
                  Re: Anyone order from syndicomm? Are they out of business? Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2015-05-04 21:16 -0400
                    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm? Are they out of business? David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2015-05-04 22:40 -0400
                      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm? Are they out of business? "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> - 2015-05-05 18:10 -0400
                        Re: Anyone order from syndicomm? Are they out of business? Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 21:02 -0400
                          Re: Anyone order from syndicomm? Are they out of business? "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> - 2015-05-05 21:23 -0400
                            Re: Anyone order from syndicomm? Are they out of business? Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2015-05-06 07:53 -0400
                        Re: Anyone order from syndicomm? Are they out of business? "Christopher G. Mason" <cgm1@my-deja.com> - 2015-05-05 21:49 -0400
    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-23 15:27 -0500
      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm? Are they out of business? uyjulian <uyjulian@gmail.com> - 2015-05-24 12:49 +0000
      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-25 15:55 -0700
        Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-27 19:48 -0500
          Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-28 07:30 -0700
      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? oldjohnman@gmail.com - 2015-05-27 14:46 -0700
        Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-27 19:57 -0500
          Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2015-05-27 20:31 -0700
            Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-28 04:08 -0500
              Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2015-05-28 06:13 -0700
                Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-28 07:50 -0700
                  Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2015-05-28 08:39 -0700
                  Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2015-05-28 09:00 -0700
                    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-28 12:16 -0700
                      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2015-05-28 21:06 -0700
                        Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-28 21:43 -0700
                          Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2015-05-29 07:13 -0700
                            Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-29 08:14 -0700
                              Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2015-05-29 13:48 -0700
                                Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-06-01 07:38 -0700
                                  Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2015-06-01 21:15 -0700
                    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-28 12:21 -0700
              Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-28 07:59 -0700
                Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? SuperNewbie <SuperNewbie@nomail.com> - 2015-05-28 12:05 -0400
                  Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? roughana <andrew.roughan@writeme.com> - 2015-05-29 17:39 -0700
                Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-30 03:30 -0500
                  Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-30 11:07 -0700
                    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-30 14:28 -0500
        Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? oldjohnman@gmail.com - 2015-06-01 11:36 -0700
          Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> - 2015-06-01 21:21 +0200
            Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-06-01 17:14 -0400
              Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> - 2015-06-02 00:29 +0200
    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? roughana <andrew.roughan@writeme.com> - 2015-05-29 17:35 -0700
      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? wssimms@gmail.com - 2015-05-29 18:18 -0700
        Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-30 03:14 -0500
      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? oldjohnman@gmail.com - 2015-05-30 21:23 -0700
    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? oldjohnman@gmail.com - 2015-06-11 08:15 -0700
      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-06-12 04:15 -0500
        Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? oldjohnman@gmail.com - 2015-06-16 12:14 -0700
          Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-06-17 10:44 -0400
      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-06-13 10:57 -0400
        Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Charles <saphrxpert@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 18:08 -0700
          Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-06-15 12:41 -0400
            Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-06-16 06:56 -0700
              Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-06-17 10:46 -0400
                Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-07-08 15:54 -0400
                  Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? David Jones <djones60@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 14:39 -0700
                  Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-07-08 18:55 -0400
                    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-07-08 20:27 -0400
                    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm? Are they out of business? Sean McNamara <sean@macassist.com.au> - 2015-07-10 10:42 +0000
                      Re: Anyone order from syndicomm? Are they out of business? "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-07-11 07:04 -0500
                  Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group roughana <andrew.roughan@writeme.com> - 2015-07-08 17:47 -0700
                    Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-07-08 21:07 -0400
                    Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group David Jones <djones60@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 18:11 -0700
                      Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-07-08 21:22 -0400
                        Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group Steve Chamberlin <steve.chamberlin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 20:20 -0700
                          Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group Peter Neubauer <peter.j.neubauer@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 22:17 -0700
                            Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group wssimms@gmail.com - 2015-07-08 22:35 -0700
                              Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group David Jones <djones60@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 05:50 -0700
                              Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-07-09 11:03 -0400
                              Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group Jeff Blakeney <CUTjeffrey_blakeney@yahoo.ca> - 2015-07-09 17:58 -0400
                                Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group wssimms@gmail.com - 2015-07-09 16:42 -0700
                                  Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-07-10 00:40 -0500
                                    Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group wssimms@gmail.com - 2015-07-10 07:14 -0700
                                      Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2015-07-10 20:12 -0500
                                        Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> - 2015-07-10 21:20 -0400
                                  Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group Warren Ernst <wernst@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 11:43 -0700
                                    Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-07-11 12:02 -0400
                                      Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group Jorma Honkanen <jormahonkanen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 01:50 -0700
                                        Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-07-12 17:18 -0400
                                          Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group Sean McNamara <sean@macassist.com.au> - 2015-07-12 21:48 +0000
                                            Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-07-13 03:39 -0500
                                              Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group Jorma Honkanen <jormahonkanen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 03:24 -0700
                                              Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group Jorma Honkanen <jormahonkanen@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 03:26 -0700
                                            Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-07-13 11:17 -0400
                                              Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group Jeff Blakeney <CUTjeffrey_blakeney@yahoo.ca> - 2015-07-13 14:32 -0400
                                                Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-07-13 14:51 -0400
                                                  Why not post to csa2?, was Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2015-07-13 20:58 +0000
                                                  Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group Richard Thiebaud <thiebauddick2@aol.com> - 2015-07-13 18:18 -0400
                                                  Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group europlus <europlus@mcnamaras.id.au> - 2015-07-13 22:25 +0000
                                                    Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group Antoine Vignau <antoine.vignau@laposte.net> - 2015-07-14 03:50 -0700
                                                    Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group David Jones <djones60@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 05:58 -0700
                              Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-07-10 00:30 -0500
                            Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-07-09 11:01 -0400
    Re: Anyone order from syndicomm?  Are they out of business? SndHack <robatcraigslist@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 17:50 -0700

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#25248 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromMichael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com>
Date2015-07-10 20:12 -0500
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<1296966819458269922.559529mjmahon-aol.com@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#25244
<wssimms@gmail.com> wrote:
> Am Freitag, 10. Juli 2015 14:40:53 UTC+9 schrieb Bill Buckels:
>> <wssimms@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:56377f64-a557-498f-822d-528dc19e51ab@googlegroups.com...
>>> Obviously had I made the mistake of trying to join the group, I would have 
>>> been instantly banned. Now I know not to make the mistake of trying.
>> 
>> As long as you keep in touch from time to time and keep coaching me on my 
>> graphics converters, I'm ok with that. I'm still (quietely) working towards 
>> the perfect converter... but it gets tedious posting so I'm waiting until 
>> the fall-time to show my hand:)
> as far as I'm concerned you've surpassed me with your converter.
> 
> As it happens I am currently knee deep in a very big Apple II related project
> that I think I will be able to finish as my time as freed up a bit since the beginning
> of the year.
> 
> Unfortunately, it is a project that probably won't interest many of the remaining
> Apple II fans but i figure there will be a few comp.sys.apple2 readers who will
> find it interesting and, more importantly, I find it interesting.

Hmmmm...  I'm hooked. ;-)
-- 
-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon

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#25249 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

From"Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net>
Date2015-07-10 21:20 -0400
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<m-WdnekrTNbg8z3InZ2dnUU78R-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#25248
"Michael J. Mahon" <mjmahon@aol.com> wrote in message news:1296
966819458269922.559529mjmahon-aol.com@news.giganews.com...
> <wssimms@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Am Freitag, 10. Juli 2015 14:40:53 UTC+9 schrieb Bill Buckels:
>>> <wssimms@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:56377f64-a557-498f-822d-528dc19e51ab@googlegroups.com...
>>>> Obviously had I made the mistake of trying to join the group, I would 
>>>> have
>>>> been instantly banned. Now I know not to make the mistake of trying.
>>>
>>> As long as you keep in touch from time to time and keep coaching me on 
>>> my
>>> graphics converters, I'm ok with that. I'm still (quietely) working 
>>> towards
>>> the perfect converter... but it gets tedious posting so I'm waiting 
>>> until
>>> the fall-time to show my hand:)
>> as far as I'm concerned you've surpassed me with your converter.
>>
>> As it happens I am currently knee deep in a very big Apple II related 
>> project
>> that I think I will be able to finish as my time as freed up a bit since 
>> the beginning
>> of the year.
>>
>> Unfortunately, it is a project that probably won't interest many of the 
>> remaining
>> Apple II fans but i figure there will be a few comp.sys.apple2 readers 
>> who will
>> find it interesting and, more importantly, I find it interesting.
>
> Hmmmm...  I'm hooked. ;-)
> -- 
> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon

How can you not be, with all of that interesting information that was given. 
8>)

I'm so interested that I'm going to go do a half-dozen other things right 
now.  LOL

Bill Garber - I love my
C1 D0 D0 CC C5 A0 C9 C9 C7 D3
http://www.sepa-electronics.com

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#25245 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromWarren Ernst <wernst@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-10 11:43 -0700
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<f9a05942-1ba1-4999-a33d-f2b483de7c73@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#25239
On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 4:42:21 PM UTC-7, wss...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a Facebook account for the purpose of seeing posts by two people, who are my only Facebook friends. I have never posted myself and have no activity. Obviously had I made the mistake of trying to join the group, I would have been instantly banned. Now I know not to make the mistake of trying.

No need to be overly dramatic.

For all of the flaws of Facebook, and despite the terrible interface it has for groups, there is lots of interesting traffic and chatting going on there that reminds me of how this group used to be in the late 80's and early 90's (yes, I've been there that long). 

Do I wish all the Apple II users of the world would settle on this newsgroup or a single real discussion forum for its chatting and news sharing? Absolutely. But am I willing to deal with Facebook's annoyances because that's where all the people seem to be? Absolutely again.

I usually check this newsgroup, the AppleFritter forums, the Facebook group, and the A2Central page daily. There's way more stuff going on in the FB group every day, and it actually seems to be growing. I actually enjoy the chatter in spite of the interface.

So to steal a line from the film  "Stripes," "Lighten up, Francis." ;-)

-Warr

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#25255 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromK-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com>
Date2015-07-11 12:02 -0400
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<mnremv$i7o$1@adenine.netfront.net>
In reply to#25245

> On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 4:42:21 PM UTC-7, wss...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I have a Facebook account for the purpose of seeing posts by two people,
> who are my only Facebook friends. I have never posted myself and have no ac
> tivity. Obviously had I made the mistake of trying to join the group, I wou
> ld have been instantly banned. Now I know not to make the mistake of trying
> .

On 2015-07-10 18:43:41 +0000, Warren Ernst <wernst@gmail.com> said:
> 
> No need to be overly dramatic.

What's overly dramatic about his statement? What he described is 
exactly what happened to my friend and not an exaggeration. If 
anything, the instant-ban for life is overly dramatic on the part of 
the admins. 


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#25258 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromJorma Honkanen <jormahonkanen@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-12 01:50 -0700
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<7bde5d45-d614-423e-b139-ae579a3af57a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#25255
I am admin in 68k mac group in FB, and i DO not allow always users with non real name, or have joined in few last days/weeks to Facebook, to join the group.

People be real and don't spam.

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#25261 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromK-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com>
Date2015-07-12 17:18 -0400
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<mnuliq$20ho$1@adenine.netfront.net>
In reply to#25258
On 2015-07-12 08:50:09 +0000, Jorma Honkanen <jormahonkanen@gmail.com> said:

> I am admin in 68k mac group in FB, and i DO not allow always users with 
> non real name, or have joined in few last days/weeks to Facebook, to 
> join the group.
> 
> People be real and don't spam.

Do you ban them for trying to join? Would it be easier to just email 
them to see if they are real?


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#25263 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromSean McNamara <sean@macassist.com.au>
Date2015-07-12 21:48 +0000
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<226764250458429627.803151sean-macassist.com.au@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#25261
That's putting the onus on volunteers who may well be swamped with requests
(at least at times). You're ask them to keep track of new members and the
communications they've had with them, etc. It's much easier and fair to
have those who want to join who are using fake names and/or newly minted or
hardly used accounts to request access if they're struck off the list. I
don't know how well that mechanism is documented (and it should be
documented - if it's not, maybe you could volunteer to help the admins to
document the process), but it seems the fairer way to me.

This isn't the case of a highly paid group of autocrats acting as
gatekeepers. It's unpaid volunteers doing the best they can with what are
likely a crappy and limited set of choices to protect the "integrity" (i.e.
relevance of posts) of a group of enthusiasts.

If you feel there's a better way, join the group, become an admin and
propose changes from the inside. It's easy to judge these things when you
haven't faced the challenges those trying to help others as volunteers
face. And each volunteering job is different, so if you've volunteered for
your local user group, or op shop charity, or whatever, but not a similar
FB enthusiasts group, don't assume what worked there will work in the group
we're talking about.

The reason the responses are being called "over dramatic" is because they
are coming across as expressing entitlement, petulance and an unreasonable
level of expectation of what the admins are "meant" to be doing.

There's always also the option of starting your own group (or your friend
starting their own group) that has a more open membership policy and allows
all comers in first and eliminates SPAMmers after the fact. There's no
exclusivity agreement from FB saying this is the only and/or official Apple
][ enthusiasts group.

Do that and get relevant content and a high signal to noise ration and
it'll go gangbusters.

Just my $0.02 worth

europlus

PS I have no affiliation with the admins and have not had correspondence
with them regarding their membership policies - I'm just an ordinary Joe
user who appreciates what work they do for us

K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> wrote:
> On 2015-07-12 08:50:09 +0000, Jorma Honkanen <jormahonkanen@gmail.com> said:
> 
>> I am admin in 68k mac group in FB, and i DO not allow always users with
>> > non real name, or have joined in few last days/weeks to Facebook, to > join the group.
>>> People be real and don't spam.
> 
> Do you ban them for trying to join? Would it be easier to just email them
> to see if they are real?
> 
> 
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#25265 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

From"Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net>
Date2015-07-13 03:39 -0500
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<mnvtfk$56h$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#25263
"Sean McNamara" <sean@macassist.com.au> wrote:
>The reason the responses are being called "over dramatic" is because they 
>are coming across as expressing entitlement, petulance and an unreasonable 
>level of expectation of what the admins are "meant" to be doing.

Well exactly. Ask not what the Apple II Community can do for you but what 
you can do for the Apple II Community.We are not homeless people with 
nothing to eat.

If Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak had worried about first world problems there 
would have been no Apple II to be enthusiastic about.

Bill



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#25266 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromJorma Honkanen <jormahonkanen@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-13 03:24 -0700
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<579754b0-eccc-4f20-900b-f8d38eb9d012@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#25265
Also making the choise over smartphone theres rarely time/possibility to mail people IF they are real or not. I try to check their page if it looks they are real, or are hobbyists at all.

I admit it is not fool proof.

It's not easy, nor it is paid job.

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#25267 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromJorma Honkanen <jormahonkanen@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-13 03:26 -0700
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<ad3b4651-9cca-4304-974e-1d858546822c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#25265
...and back to topic OK?

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#25273 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromK-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com>
Date2015-07-13 11:17 -0400
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<mo0kqr$nlt$1@adenine.netfront.net>
In reply to#25263
> 
> The reason the responses are being called "over dramatic" is because they
> are coming across as expressing entitlement, petulance and an unreasonable
> level of expectation of what the admins are "meant" to be doing.
> 


Suggesting that people not  be automatically banned for life because 
the admin of a group makes a mistake is being petulant and 
unreasonable? You sure are quick to insult people.


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#25274 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromJeff Blakeney <CUTjeffrey_blakeney@yahoo.ca>
Date2015-07-13 14:32 -0400
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<mo1058$7cg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#25273
On 13/07/2015 11:17 AM, K-K00L wrote:
> Suggesting that people not  be automatically banned for life because the
> admin of a group makes a mistake is being petulant and unreasonable? You
> sure are quick to insult people.

I wish you would stop use the "over dramatic" term "banned for life". 
There is no way to ban someone for life from a group on Facebook.  If 
someone were to get banned erroneously, they can message the admins and 
the admins can then allow them back in.  It happens all the time.

The admins most likely saw a suspicious account attempting to join the 
group and disallowed it.  That is all that happened.  It can be reversed 
if needed.

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#25276 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromK-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com>
Date2015-07-13 14:51 -0400
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<mo11au$1414$1@adenine.netfront.net>
In reply to#25274
> ish you would stop use the "over dramatic" term "banned for life". 
> There is no way to ban someone for life from a group on Facebook.  If 
> someone were to get banned erroneously, they can message the admins and 
> the admins can then allow them back in.  It happens all the time.

No they can't. They are banned, they can't see the group at all, its 
like it does not exist on facebook for this user. How are you supposed 
to email the admins of a group you can't even see?


> The admins most likely saw a suspicious account attempting to join the 
> group and disallowed it.  That is all that happened.  It can be 
> reversed if needed.
Utter nonsense.



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#25278 — Why not post to csa2?, was Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromD Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com>
Date2015-07-13 20:58 +0000
SubjectWhy not post to csa2?, was Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<dog_cow-1436821177@macgui.com>
In reply to#25276
K-K00L wrote:
>> ish you would stop use the "over dramatic" term "banned for life". 
>> There is no way to ban someone for life from a group on Facebook.  If 
>> someone were to get banned erroneously, they can message the admins and 
>> the admins can then allow them back in.  It happens all the time.
> 
> No they can't. They are banned, they can't see the group at all, its 
> like it does not exist on facebook for this user. How are you supposed 
> to email the admins of a group you can't even see?

Do these people even exist? Why don't they post to comp.sys.apple2. They
could register an account at Eternal-September.org and use a newsreader, or
do whatever.

-- 
]DF$
The Marina IP stack for Apple II--
http://marina.a2hq.com/

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#25281 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromRichard Thiebaud <thiebauddick2@aol.com>
Date2015-07-13 18:18 -0400
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<55a43923$0$43046$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#25276
On 7/13/2015 2:51 PM, K-K00L wrote:
>> ish you would stop use the "over dramatic" term "banned for life".
>> There is no way to ban someone for life from a group on Facebook.  If
>> someone were to get banned erroneously, they can message the admins
>> and the admins can then allow them back in.  It happens all the time.
>
> No they can't. They are banned, they can't see the group at all, its
> like it does not exist on facebook for this user. How are you supposed
> to email the admins of a group you can't even see?
>
>
>> The admins most likely saw a suspicious account attempting to join the
>> group and disallowed it.  That is all that happened.  It can be
>> reversed if needed.
> Utter nonsense.
>
>
>
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  What is utter nonsense? That the admins try to ban spammers? Or that 
they make mistakes?

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#25282 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

Fromeuroplus <europlus@mcnamaras.id.au>
Date2015-07-13 22:25 +0000
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<1441626752458518342.244130europlus-mcnamaras.id.au@news.sunsite.dk>
In reply to#25276
The names of the admins have already been provided here. Access to the
group isn't needed to attempt to message those admins by their name (rather
than via the group). It's not rocket surgery.

Not accepting that fake-name Facebook accounts can reasonably be considered
suspicious until proven otherwise is disingenuous at best. Take that as an
insult if you like, but expecting the volunteer admins to bend over
backwards for every person with a fake name account (and, in some cases, a
zero-activity account) is unreasonable.

You've already been provided with all the information any reasonable adult
could use to either decide "it's not worth it for me/my friend" or "I (or
my friend) will deal with this in a positive way" - but no, you keep using
hyperbole and refuse to accept the admins' position. If it's that
untenable, start your own Facebook group with the membership policies that
make sense to you and leave the "exclusive" club of almost 2,500 members
worldwide to their echo chamber in the secure knowledge you're doing The
Right Thing™.

Gah!

europlus

K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> wrote:
>> ish you would stop use the "over dramatic" term "banned for life". >
>> There is no way to ban someone for life from a group on Facebook.  If >
>> someone were to get banned erroneously, they can message the admins and
>> > the admins can then allow them back in.  It happens all the time.
> 
> No they can't. They are banned, they can't see the group at all, its like
> it does not exist on facebook for this user. How are you supposed to
> email the admins of a group you can't even see?
> 
> 
>> The admins most likely saw a suspicious account attempting to join the >
>> group and disallowed it.  That is all that happened.  It can be > reversed if needed.
> Utter nonsense.
> 
> 
> 
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#25288 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromAntoine Vignau <antoine.vignau@laposte.net>
Date2015-07-14 03:50 -0700
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<29892d91-1215-48ef-ad74-76debb87301d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#25282
Gah! +1
av

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#25290 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromDavid Jones <djones60@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-14 05:58 -0700
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<d5e8c982-9d3f-4196-9eae-5a967e4325c1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#25282
On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 6:25:55 PM UTC-4, europlus wrote:
> The names of the admins have already been provided here. Access to the
> group isn't needed to attempt to message those admins by their name (rather
> than via the group). It's not rocket surgery.
> 
> Not accepting that fake-name Facebook accounts can reasonably be considered
> suspicious until proven otherwise is disingenuous at best. Take that as an
> insult if you like, but expecting the volunteer admins to bend over
> backwards for every person with a fake name account (and, in some cases, a
> zero-activity account) is unreasonable.
> 
> You've already been provided with all the information any reasonable adult
> could use to either decide "it's not worth it for me/my friend" or "I (or
> my friend) will deal with this in a positive way" - but no, you keep using
> hyperbole and refuse to accept the admins' position. If it's that
> untenable, start your own Facebook group with the membership policies that
> make sense to you and leave the "exclusive" club of almost 2,500 members
> worldwide to their echo chamber in the secure knowledge you're doing The
> Right Thing(tm).
> 
> Gah!
> 
> europlus
> 


Well said.  

It looks to me like they are more interested in complaining and creating drama than joining the Facebook group.  After all, correcting the mistake would have been quicker and easier than all the posts complaining about it here.  I just wonder if they would bring that kind of drama to the facebook group too.

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#25241 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

From"Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net>
Date2015-07-10 00:30 -0500
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<mnnl9v$2jh$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#25232
<wssimms@gmail.com> wrote:
>Having already proven that we are a bunch of unwelcoming jerks, if you'll 
>just beg a little bit we'll consider allowing you into our presence (but 
>you'll be on probationary status until you've licked enough boots to make 
>us like you)

One way around licking boots is to produce enough working programs for the 
Apple II that demonstrate a serious interest. Then there can be no question 
that you are a real person, and not afraid of doing some real work to have 
some fun with the Apple II. The downside of taking this route is that you 
actually need to learn something and spend some real time doing so, so I 
can't recommend this for someone just wanting to take a casual glance.

As for FaceBook groups; they are a really crappy interface for threads. A 
person can't search a thread by date or topic. Usenet and Google Groups are 
a better bet. FaceBook prioritizes based on popularity and recent posts, so 
the Apple II Enthisiasts group can be spammed with pictures of the latest 
ebay auctions or someone's idea of a neato picture of a MacIntosh computer 
or something seemingly unrelated. There is nothing that anyone can do to 
change that since it's a social network. You just play the same game to get 
your stuff on there and if someone else is interested it sorts to the top.

As for the moderators, they are extremely tolerant and believe in free 
speech and opinion sharing. Discrimination is based on judgement tempered 
with compassion and a recognition that we are all simply human inclusing the 
moderators. Like usenet, people drop by and post for awhile, then dissapear 
for awhile (or forever). Nothing is perfect except for Sheldon Simm's NTSC 
conversion palette.

Bill






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#25236 — Re: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group

FromK-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com>
Date2015-07-09 11:01 -0400
SubjectRe: Joining the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group
Message-ID<mnm2d1$1qc0$1@adenine.netfront.net>
In reply to#25231
> 
I asked my friend if he got an email or whatever on Facebook before the 
ban, and he said no. Does facebook not have something where you email 
the admin to join? Or if not, if the admin is going to spend the time 
to checkout your profile, check your timeline etc., would it not be 
much easier to simply send the applying person an email saying 
something like , "hey tell me a bit about your interest Apple II stuff 
, because we get spammers", then simply approve them when you get a 
reasonable response. This idea of banning for life and blocking all 
access to the group (and the email of the admins) to any new Facebook 
user for commiting the crime of simply applying to the group is brain 
dead. I appreciate Steve's response of telling me the names of the 
admins, but I doubt my friend is going to be able to weed out those 
names to the actual people on Facebook, some are really common names. 


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