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OPUS ][ The Software now here :-)

Started byuyjulian <uyjulian@gmail.com>
First post2015-05-28 11:22 +0000
Last post2015-06-01 07:32 -0700
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  OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) uyjulian <uyjulian@gmail.com> - 2015-05-28 11:22 +0000
    Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> - 2015-05-28 13:38 +0200
      Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> - 2015-05-28 13:57 +0200
      Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) uyjulian <uyjulian@gmail.com> - 2015-05-28 11:55 +0000
        Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> - 2015-05-28 14:15 +0200
      Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) roughana <andrew.roughan@writeme.com> - 2015-05-29 06:21 -0700
    Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) mverpelli@libero.it - 2015-05-28 08:22 -0700
      Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) roughana <andrew.roughan@writeme.com> - 2015-05-29 06:21 -0700
        Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) mverpelli@libero.it - 2015-05-29 06:32 -0700
          Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) SuperNewbie <SuperNewbie@nomail.com> - 2015-05-29 15:45 -0400
          Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) roughana <andrew.roughan@writeme.com> - 2015-05-29 18:27 -0700
            Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) wssimms@gmail.com - 2015-05-29 18:37 -0700
              Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) roughana <andrew.roughan@writeme.com> - 2015-05-29 18:53 -0700
                Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) wssimms@gmail.com - 2015-05-29 22:38 -0700
        Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) wssimms@gmail.com - 2015-05-29 06:44 -0700
          Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-29 12:35 -0500
        Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-29 13:12 -0500
          Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) mverpelli@libero.it - 2015-05-29 11:46 -0700
          Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) wssimms@gmail.com - 2015-05-29 18:24 -0700
            Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) roughana <andrew.roughan@writeme.com> - 2015-05-29 18:31 -0700
    Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) roughana <andrew.roughan@writeme.com> - 2015-05-29 06:20 -0700
      Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) uyjulian <uyjulian@gmail.com> - 2015-05-29 20:40 +0000
        Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) roughana <andrew.roughan@writeme.com> - 2015-05-29 18:29 -0700
        Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-30 02:47 -0500
          Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) Antoine Vignau <antoine.vignau@laposte.net> - 2015-05-30 03:58 -0700
            Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-30 14:19 -0500
              Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) roughana <andrew.roughan@writeme.com> - 2015-05-30 18:42 -0700
                Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-31 04:36 -0500
                Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) spectrumdaddy@nospam.com (Ewen) - 2015-05-31 16:45 +0100
                  Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) Ivan X <ivanx%ivanx.com@gtempaccount.com> - 2015-05-31 11:03 -0700
                    Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> - 2015-05-31 22:54 +0200
                      Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) nategri <nategri@gmail.com> - 2015-05-31 16:02 -0700
                        Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) Ivan X <ivanx%ivanx.com@gtempaccount.com> - 2015-05-31 16:05 -0700
                        Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> - 2015-06-01 02:03 +0200
                    Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-31 16:56 -0500
                      Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) Ivan X <ivanx%ivanx.com@gtempaccount.com> - 2015-05-31 16:05 -0700
                        Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-31 20:31 -0500
                        Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) K-K00L <K-K00L@nomail.com> - 2015-06-01 00:28 -0400
                          Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2015-06-01 01:41 -0700
                            Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-06-01 07:25 -0500
                        Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> - 2015-06-01 10:16 -0700
                          Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2015-06-01 20:43 +0000
                    Re: OPUS ][ The Software now here :-) Sean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com> - 2015-06-01 07:32 -0700

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#24955

FromDavid Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com>
Date2015-06-01 10:16 -0700
Message-ID<69f465b4-511c-4500-9131-669809341f0b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#24933
On Sunday, 31 May 2015 16:05:18 UTC-7, Ivan X  wrote:
> On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 5:56:19 PM UTC-4, Bill Buckels wrote:
> > "Ivan X" <ivanx%ivanx.com@gtempaccount.com> wrote:
> > >Characterizing people who attend KansasFest as somehow being Tony's 
> > >collaborators is, frankly, inane; using this fantasy as an excuse to not 
> > >attend KansasFest is even more inane. Telling others who actually make the 
> > >effort to go to KansasFest that they're supposed to take up an issue with 
> > >Tony that doesn't involve them personally when you can't be bothered to go 
> > >yourself is the most inane of all.
> > 
> > That was quite a flame you got going there...
> 
> Thanks. I consider myself an amateur and these things, but I'm glad to know I'm improving.
> 
> > > When I was 11 we had a black and white TV, and a reel to reel mono tapedeck. 
> > We used a slide rule when I was in  high school, and the last year I 
> > attended was 1968. Not too much electronics then... of course those are 
> > inane remarks considering I wasn't born yesterday like some of you kids.
> 
> Ha, thank you for calling me a kid.
> 
> > Your idea of effort is quite different than mine. I'll give you that as 
> > well. So how about we just ignore everything that doesn't involve us 
> > personally and don't send people disks like I did when Tony effectively 
> > ripped this guy off. I assume the ME generation is OK with that too...
> 
> Deal.
> 
> > Now that you have got that off your chest, what do you suggest we do?
> 
> Good question. Thinking about it. A) Write a note to Tony saying hey, we want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but shit's fucked up if you take money and don't deliver. If that fails, b) post here and on the Facebook group saying "hey, heads up, my (or person I know) Syndicomm order hasn't been filled, I'm not happy, caveat emptor." c) ask someone you know who has a copy of the thing that you paid for so you can get the thing that you paid for [I don't have a problem with this as long as it isn't mass-distributed] d) go to KansasFest for the cameraderie and if you happen to see Tony, ask him wtf. e) email author of the software as has been previously proposed and ask "It's 2015, PayPal exists, can you please sell your stuff directly and bypass the guy who doesn't actually deliver your product?"
> 
> What do you think?

This thread is actually turning into something productive. What are the items that are exclusive to Syndicomm that are not available from other sources? For me, the two product lines that I see Syndicomm having a monopoly on are the ADPA material and the Orca series of products. I'm not sure there could be a legitimate second source for the ADPA material, but Mike Westerfield might be convinced to allow another online store to deliver his products. Although I like having a hard copy (and bought my Orca/C hardcopy from Syndicomm years ago), having reasonably priced download only option would be a "good thing". Even Mike's iOS apps are (much) less expensive than his 8-bit tools on Syndicomm.

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#24962

FromD Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com>
Date2015-06-01 20:43 +0000
Message-ID<dog_cow-1433191471@macgui.com>
In reply to#24955
David Schmenk wrote:
> Although I like having a hard copy (and bought my
> Orca/C hardcopy from Syndicomm years ago), having reasonably priced
> download only option would be a "good thing". Even Mike's iOS apps are
> (much) less expensive than his 8-bit tools on Syndicomm.

I agree completely. I like having the hard copy manuals and books and disks.
However I think the download-only option is the best way to go in this case.

-- 
]DF$
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#24950

FromSean Fahey <a2fan@hotmail.com>
Date2015-06-01 07:32 -0700
Message-ID<22037cc1-f8ff-404c-baa1-f045dedd9def@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#24928
On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 1:03:22 PM UTC-5, Ivan X wrote:

>>> 
- Characterizing people who attend KansasFest as somehow being Tony's collaborators is, frankly, inane; using this fantasy as an excuse to not attend KansasFest is even more inane. Telling others who actually make the effort to go to KansasFest that they're supposed to take up an issue with Tony that doesn't involve them personally when you can't be bothered to go yourself is the most inane of all.
<<<

Well, that was my point. You're much more succinct on the salient issues I was concerned with.

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