Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong??

From	Alex Lee <alelee@mac.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.apple2
Subject	Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong??
Date	2013-02-11 14:46 +1100
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On 2013-02-11 03:24:36 +1100, Tempest said:

> This weekend I've been trying to install various Apple IIgs games on my 
> hard drive and I've had limited success.  Using the IIgs Gaming Fairway 
> as a guide as to what games are hard drive installable, I tried to copy 
> over the disk contents to folders on my hard drive.  Most games kept 
> searching my disk drives for a disk over and over again before failing. 
>  What am I doing wrong?
> 
> I understand that some games require the directory to be named 
> something specific, is there any list of those games out there?  Some 
> of the game manuals are available online with these instructions in 
> them, but most are not or don't mention anything about hard drive 
> installs.
> My goal is to get all the games that are hard drive installable on my 
> IIgs, but so far I'm not doing very well.  Has anyone else out there 
> tried to do this?

Let’s start from the beginning :-)

What configuration does your IIGS have? I’m guessing you have a hard 
drive of some sort. Is it a SCSI hard drive and if so what card? I know 
you have ADTPro setup. Please state everything else you have in your 
hardware setup (memory, accelerator or not, etc, etc).

The quickest way of you having access to every hard drive installable 
game, app and educational software would be to directly copy each of 
the pre-configured 32 meg disk images found on the homepage of ‘What is 
the Apple IIGS?’ to your hard drive.

This would save you a LOT of time because of instead of going through 
each of the individual floppy archives and finding disappointment when 
I have erroneously stated whether some apps are hard drive installable 
(and I apologise for that, but there are many factors involved as to 
why I might have mistakingly said a program was hard drive installable, 
most of all is I probably copied a program to a hard drive image and 
tested it without ejecting the original floppy image, which the program 
would have checked when launched. Obviously, the original floppy needs 
to be ejected to truly test whether a game can be run from a hard drive 
by itself. I am updating the details for individual archives that 
aren’t HD installable, so thanks for the feedback).

So, there are two possible solutions to copy the 32 meg images over:

1) If you have a SCSI hard drive connected to your IIGS and you have 
SCSI in your Windows based PC (unlikely) I think you can, in theory, 
connect your IIGS SCSI drive (if it’s an external drive) to your PC and 
use CiderPress to directly copy over 2images to hard drive partitions 
on your SCSI drive in exactly the same way you can do to older CFFA 
cards. I haven’t done this myself, so someone else will have to confirm.

2) Another suggestion that will require confirmation (David Schmidt if 
you’re around! :-) as I’ve never owned a PC or an Apple IIGS compatible 
SCSI hard drive would be can ADTPro be used to copy the contents of 32 
meg 2images from a PC directly over to a IIGS? I’ve never used ADTPro 
myself because I’m strictly an Apple guy and I’d need to get a USB to 
serial adapter to connect my IIGS and Mac. That’s an extra expense I’m 
wanting to avoid because copying everything over to my CFFA3000 from a 
Mac is VERY easy, and copying stuff over to my older CFFA2 is 
relatively easy too, although requires a PC or a Windows XP install on 
a Mac with Bootcamp,VMWare or Parallels, etc.

Can anyone else make any other suggestions?

- Alex
-- 
http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/

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Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-10 08:24 -0800
  Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Alex Lee <alelee@mac.com> - 2013-02-11 14:46 +1100
  Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 06:45 -0800
    Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2013-02-11 10:06 -0500
      Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 08:11 -0800
        Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2013-02-11 11:32 -0500
          Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 09:02 -0800
            Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2013-02-11 12:07 -0500
              Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2013-02-11 13:09 -0600
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2013-02-11 14:12 -0500
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2013-02-11 13:20 -0600
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2013-02-11 14:24 -0500
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Alex Lee <alelee@mac.com> - 2013-02-12 09:15 +1100
              Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Alex Lee <alelee@mac.com> - 2013-02-12 09:13 +1100
            Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Alex Lee <alelee@mac.com> - 2013-02-12 09:27 +1100
              Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 15:28 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Chuck Morris <chuckwmorris@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 16:01 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 16:11 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Chuck Morris <chuckwmorris@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 16:25 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 16:31 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Chuck Morris <chuckwmorris@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 16:41 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 16:45 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 16:47 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-13 07:29 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2013-02-13 10:49 -0500
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-13 08:05 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Alex Lee <alelee@mac.com> - 2013-02-14 09:41 +1100
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-13 19:40 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-16 09:07 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-16 10:51 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-16 11:00 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2013-02-16 12:19 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-16 12:25 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-16 12:46 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2013-02-16 15:59 -0500
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2013-02-16 15:46 -0600
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-16 15:06 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-16 17:54 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Charlie <charlieDOTd@verEYEzon.net> - 2013-02-16 23:07 -0500
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-17 06:34 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-17 07:26 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Riccardo <rigreco.grc@gmail.com> - 2013-02-17 07:50 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2013-02-17 11:21 -0500
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-17 11:30 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2013-02-17 15:25 -0500
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-17 12:41 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2013-02-17 15:42 -0500
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-17 12:49 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2013-02-17 15:51 -0500
          Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> - 2013-02-11 12:44 -0500
            Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2013-02-11 14:02 -0500
              Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> - 2013-02-12 00:11 -0500
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? osgeld <kevin@hackaday.com> - 2013-02-11 21:18 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 06:09 -0800
                Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? BLuRry <brendan.robert@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 22:04 -0800
  Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Tempest <reichert2084@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 15:08 -0800
    Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2013-02-12 02:14 +0000
      Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2013-02-11 21:01 -0800
    Re: Installing Games on the IIgs Hard Drive, What am I Doing Wrong?? Chuck Morris <chuckwmorris@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 19:57 -0800

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