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  Jamtronic's HTML Applesoft Source Assembly Michael Pohoreski <michael.pohoreski@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 11:30 -0700
    Re: Jamtronic's HTML Applesoft Source Assembly awanderin <awanderin@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 00:25 -0600
      Re: Jamtronic's HTML Applesoft Source Assembly Hugh Hood <hughhood@earthlink.net> - 2018-05-27 14:12 -0500
        Re: Jamtronic's HTML Applesoft Source Assembly James Davis <JPD.Enterprises@outlook.com> - 2018-05-27 12:57 -0700
          Re: Jamtronic's HTML Applesoft Source Assembly Hugh Hood <hughhood@earthlink.net> - 2018-05-27 18:26 -0500
        Re: Jamtronic's HTML Applesoft Source Assembly awanderin <awanderin@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 22:09 -0600
          Re: Jamtronic's HTML Applesoft Source Assembly Hugh Hood <hughhood@earthlink.net> - 2018-05-28 00:24 -0500
      Re: Jamtronic's HTML Applesoft Source Assembly Michael Pohoreski <michael.pohoreski@gmail.com> - 2018-05-28 14:59 -0700

#4556 — Jamtronic's HTML Applesoft Source Assembly

I see that Jamtronix's HTML version of Bob Sander-Cederlof's S-C DocuMentor: Applesoft is down. :-/
http://jamtronix.com/2013/04/10/applesoft-disassembly/

Thankfully, The Wayback Machine (TWBM) has a mirror copy:
https://web.archive.org/web/20131106182736/http://jamtronix.com/files/applesoft.html

Just in case TWBM becomes unavilable I've saved this HTML in my git repo:
https://github.com/Michaelangel007/apple2_applesoft

Cheers
Michael

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#4559

Michael Pohoreski <michael.pohoreski@gmail.com> writes:

> I see that Jamtronix's HTML version of Bob Sander-Cederlof's S-C
> DocuMentor: Applesoft is down. :-/
> http://jamtronix.com/2013/04/10/applesoft-disassembly/
>
> Thankfully, The Wayback Machine (TWBM) has a mirror copy:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20131106182736/http://jamtronix.com/files/applesoft.html

This one is up:

http://www.txbobsc.com/scsc/scdocumentor/F5BA.html


>
> Just in case TWBM becomes unavilable I've saved this HTML in my git repo:
> https://github.com/Michaelangel007/apple2_applesoft
>
> Cheers
> Michael
>

-- 
--
Jerry    awanderin at gmail dot com

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#4562

Fellas,

W/R/T the Applesoft source code so nicely served up, how much work would 
you think involved in taking the 'LIST' coding at $D6A5+ and modifying 
it for use as an 'on-the-fly' de-tokenizer for the AppleWorks file 
loading routine.

I've got the AppleWorks file loading part covered -- I can select a 
BASIC file, I can load it line by line and parse the characters to make 
an AWP/TXT file from it, but it's the de-tokenizing code that I'd need 
to integrate.

Alternatively, is there some assembly module already written that would 
work just as well? I know there are countless 'C' examples, but this 
would be plain ole 6502 stuff.

Thanks. I can plow through the de-tokenizing code, but if you see some 
obvious difficulties before I start, please pass them on.

FWIW, I *know* how to turn a BASIC file into a TXT file for editing. I'm 
trying to eliminate that step and just load the BASIC file right into 
AppleWorks for editing. I'll worry about SAVEing it later. ;-)




Hugh Hood


On 5/27/2018 1:25 AM, awanderin wrote:
> Michael Pohoreski <michael.pohoreski@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> I see that Jamtronix's HTML version of Bob Sander-Cederlof's S-C
>> DocuMentor: Applesoft is down. :-/
>> http://jamtronix.com/2013/04/10/applesoft-disassembly/
>>
>> Thankfully, The Wayback Machine (TWBM) has a mirror copy:
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20131106182736/http://jamtronix.com/files/applesoft.html
> 
> This one is up:
> 
> http://www.txbobsc.com/scsc/scdocumentor/F5BA.html
> 
> 
>>
>> Just in case TWBM becomes unavilable I've saved this HTML in my git repo:
>> https://github.com/Michaelangel007/apple2_applesoft
>>
>> Cheers
>> Michael
>>
> 

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#4564

On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 12:12:30 PM UTC-7, Hugh Hood wrote:
> Fellas,
> 
> W/R/T the Applesoft source code so nicely served up, how much work would 
> you think involved in taking the 'LIST' coding at $D6A5+ and modifying 
> it for use as an 'on-the-fly' de-tokenizer for the AppleWorks file 
> loading routine.
> 
> I've got the AppleWorks file loading part covered -- I can select a 
> BASIC file, I can load it line by line and parse the characters to make 
> an AWP/TXT file from it, but it's the de-tokenizing code that I'd need 
> to integrate.
> 
> Alternatively, is there some assembly module already written that would 
> work just as well? I know there are countless 'C' examples, but this 
> would be plain ole 6502 stuff.
> 
> Thanks. I can plow through the de-tokenizing code, but if you see some 
> obvious difficulties before I start, please pass them on.
> 
> FWIW, I *know* how to turn a BASIC file into a TXT file for editing. I'm 
> trying to eliminate that step and just load the BASIC file right into 
> AppleWorks for editing. I'll worry about SAVEing it later. ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hugh Hood
> 
> 
> On 5/27/2018 1:25 AM, awanderin wrote:
> > Michael Pohoreski <michael.pohoreski@gmail.com> writes:
> > 
> >> I see that Jamtronix's HTML version of Bob Sander-Cederlof's S-C
> >> DocuMentor: Applesoft is down. :-/
> >> http://jamtronix.com/2013/04/10/applesoft-disassembly/
> >>
> >> Thankfully, The Wayback Machine (TWBM) has a mirror copy:
> >> https://web.archive.org/web/20131106182736/http://jamtronix.com/files/applesoft.html
> > 
> > This one is up:
> > 
> > http://www.txbobsc.com/scsc/scdocumentor/F5BA.html
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> Just in case TWBM becomes unavilable I've saved this HTML in my git repo:
> >> https://github.com/Michaelangel007/apple2_applesoft
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Michael
> >>
> >

Hi Hugh,

What about CiderPress?  It lists Applesoft & Integer BASIC programs, doesn't it?

"CiderPress was written by Andy McFadden (www.fadden.com) through FaddenSoft, LLC."

Maybe he can advise you better.  Or, you can tear into (analyze) his code.

James Davis

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#4565

On 5/27/2018 2:57 PM, James Davis wrote:

> 
> Hi Hugh,
> 
> What about CiderPress?  It lists Applesoft & Integer BASIC programs, doesn't it?
> 
> "CiderPress was written by Andy McFadden (www.fadden.com) through FaddenSoft, LLC."
> 
> Maybe he can advise you better.  Or, you can tear into (analyze) his code.
> 
> James Davis
> 

James,

Andy does have some nice coding in CiderPress, and I've looked at it, 
but after sweating in 2013 to learn just enough 'C' and Objective 'C' to 
write my OS X Spotlight Importer for AWP files 'AppleIIWorks Envoy', I 
just haven't put in the time to teach myself enough C++ (CiderPress) to 
use any of his CiderPress code, although his ASP and ADB to CSV routines 
are something I could use in another Spotlight project.

I *did* use a great deal of his straight 'C' code (AWP2TXT) in my AWP 
Importer (with his permission), and was grateful for it.

In *this* case, however, I'd be using 6502 assembly to bolt on a new 
feature to AppleWorks 5.1. If I've got enough room, I'll just make it an 
AppleWorks Init, and it will be fairly transparent. Otherwise, I'll 
write a dedicated TimeOut application to do the job.

Since the BASIC source for the LIST command is in 6502 assembly already, 
I figured that it would be the best place to start.




Hugh Hood

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#4566

Hugh Hood <hughhood@earthlink.net> writes:

> Fellas,
>
> W/R/T the Applesoft source code so nicely served up, how much work
> would you think involved in taking the 'LIST' coding at $D6A5+ and
> modifying it for use as an 'on-the-fly' de-tokenizer for the
> AppleWorks file loading routine.
>
> I've got the AppleWorks file loading part covered -- I can select a
> BASIC file, I can load it line by line and parse the characters to
> make an AWP/TXT file from it, but it's the de-tokenizing code that I'd
> need to integrate.
>
> Alternatively, is there some assembly module already written that
> would work just as well? I know there are countless 'C' examples, but
> this would be plain ole 6502 stuff.
>
> Thanks. I can plow through the de-tokenizing code, but if you see some
> obvious difficulties before I start, please pass them on.
>
> FWIW, I *know* how to turn a BASIC file into a TXT file for
> editing. I'm trying to eliminate that step and just load the BASIC
> file right into AppleWorks for editing. I'll worry about SAVEing it
> later. ;-)

Taking the Applesoft LIST routine will work.  You will just have to rip
out parts and change others.

As you follow along the code, $D6F7 is where one line gets detokenized
and output.  I'd take this code through to D765 and modify it to do what
you want.

You'll probably want to rip out the column-33-carriage-return-and-tab-5
bit at D705-D711, unless you want the "formatted" look in AppleWorks.
The exit part, D724-D72B, will also need to be changed to return to
AppleWorks.

BTW, does AppleWorks have ROM switched out?  If so, it needs to be
switched in so the token strings can be accessed at D731.

If you're always going to convert the whole program, you also don't need
any of the line-number range checks.

--
Jerry    awanderin at gmail dot com

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#4567

On 5/27/2018 11:09 PM, awanderin wrote:

> Taking the Applesoft LIST routine will work.  You will just have to rip
> out parts and change others.
> 
> As you follow along the code, $D6F7 is where one line gets detokenized
> and output.  I'd take this code through to D765 and modify it to do what
> you want.
> 
> You'll probably want to rip out the column-33-carriage-return-and-tab-5
> bit at D705-D711, unless you want the "formatted" look in AppleWorks.
> The exit part, D724-D72B, will also need to be changed to return to
> AppleWorks.
> 
> BTW, does AppleWorks have ROM switched out?  If so, it needs to be
> switched in so the token strings can be accessed at D731.
> 
> If you're always going to convert the whole program, you also don't need
> any of the line-number range checks.
> 
> --
> Jerry    awanderin at gmail dot com
> 

Jerry,

Thanks for taking a good look at that 'LIST' source, and for offering 
the tips on using it.

As to your question -- AppleWorks does have the ROM switched out, as it 
keeps quite a few fairly essential and universal code routines (called 
the 'SubHost') at $D000-$DFFF. But, I had planned to duplicate the token 
strings table and place it in another location so that shouldn't cause 
me any problems.




Hugh Hood

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#4568

On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 11:25:29 PM UTC-7, awanderin wrote:
> This one is up:
> 
> http://www.txbobsc.com/scsc/scdocumentor/F5BA.html

That's the original HTML page that Jamtronix used. =P

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