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IIGS Modem Port DTR/DSR/CTS/DCD

Started byultramagnus_tcv <mikew@thecomputervalet.com>
First post2017-02-08 11:35 -0600
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  IIGS Modem Port DTR/DSR/CTS/DCD ultramagnus_tcv <mikew@thecomputervalet.com> - 2017-02-08 11:35 -0600
    Re: IIGS Modem Port DTR/DSR/CTS/DCD roger.shimada@gmail.com - 2017-02-08 19:39 -0800
      Re: IIGS Modem Port DTR/DSR/CTS/DCD ultramagnus_tcv <mikew@thecomputervalet.com> - 2017-02-09 11:36 -0600
        Re: IIGS Modem Port DTR/DSR/CTS/DCD Hugh Hood <hughhood@earthlink.net> - 2017-02-09 21:30 -0600
          Re: IIGS Modem Port DTR/DSR/CTS/DCD ultramagnus_tcv <mikew@thecomputervalet.com> - 2017-02-11 06:39 -0600

#3264 — IIGS Modem Port DTR/DSR/CTS/DCD

Fromultramagnus_tcv <mikew@thecomputervalet.com>
Date2017-02-08 11:35 -0600
SubjectIIGS Modem Port DTR/DSR/CTS/DCD
Message-ID<o7fkpi$v3s$1@dont-email.me>
Staring the IIGS modem port pin-out inside the hardware reference 
manual, I see that this pin-out:

1	DTR
2	HSK1 (Handshake in)
3	TX Data -
4	GND
5	RX Data -
6	TX Data +
7	GPI
8	RS Data +

I'm more used to the full 25-pin pinout and am trying to understand 
there the following signals are used:

DSR
CTS
DCD

Is this all handled in software?

m

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#3265

Fromroger.shimada@gmail.com
Date2017-02-08 19:39 -0800
Message-ID<3d311d59-8371-4080-b345-1c17d1cd7dab@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3264
On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 11:35:26 AM UTC-6, ultramagnus_tcv wrote:
> Staring the IIGS modem port pin-out inside the hardware reference 
> manual...

Whaa, I used to know that stuff once....

Checkout IIGS TechNote #30 - updates to said manual - which I think will tell you what you want to know http://www.1000bit.it/support/manuali/apple/technotes/iigs/tn.iigs.030.html

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#3266

Fromultramagnus_tcv <mikew@thecomputervalet.com>
Date2017-02-09 11:36 -0600
Message-ID<o7i977$k72$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3265
On 2017-02-09 03:39:14 +0000, roger.shimada@gmail.com said:

> Checkout IIGS TechNote #30 - updates to said manual - which I think 
> will tell you what you want to know 
> http://www.1000bit.it/support/manuali/apple/technotes/iigs/tn.iigs.030.html 
> 


It does! Thank you. :-)

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#3267

FromHugh Hood <hughhood@earthlink.net>
Date2017-02-09 21:30 -0600
Message-ID<xeudnSO0LvIlrgDFnZ2dnUU7-LPNnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#3266
Mike,

It appears the Tech Note had what you needed, but in a nutshell, the 
IIGS really only has one pair of handshake lines 
[HSKout/HSKin](excluding GPin), whereas an RS-232 25-pin device 
connector has at least two pairs of handshake lines [DTR/DSR and 
RTS/CTS] plus DCD.

So, you select which pair of device handshake lines you want to use (or 
jumper between them - several ways to do that) and route those to the 
GS' HSKout/HSKin lines.

Modems usually supply a 'DCD' line for 'carrier detect', and that is 
routed to the GS' GPin line, which will be detected by software that 
uses this line, which is generally terminal programs.





Hugh Hood


On 2/9/2017 11:36 AM, ultramagnus_tcv wrote:
> On 2017-02-09 03:39:14 +0000, roger.shimada@gmail.com said:
>
>> Checkout IIGS TechNote #30 - updates to said manual - which I think
>> will tell you what you want to know
>> http://www.1000bit.it/support/manuali/apple/technotes/iigs/tn.iigs.030.html
>>
>
>
> It does! Thank you. :-)
>

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#3268

Fromultramagnus_tcv <mikew@thecomputervalet.com>
Date2017-02-11 06:39 -0600
Message-ID<o7n0j1$8hf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3267
On 2017-02-10 03:30:05 +0000, Hugh Hood said:

> Mike,
> 
> It appears the Tech Note had what you needed, but in a nutshell, the 
> IIGS really only has one pair of handshake lines 
> [HSKout/HSKin](excluding GPin), whereas an RS-232 25-pin device 
> connector has at least two pairs of handshake lines [DTR/DSR and 
> RTS/CTS] plus DCD.
> 
> So, you select which pair of device handshake lines you want to use (or 
> jumper between them - several ways to do that) and route those to the 
> GS' HSKout/HSKin lines.
> 
> Modems usually supply a 'DCD' line for 'carrier detect', and that is 
> routed to the GS' GPin line, which will be detected by software that 
> uses this line, which is generally terminal programs.

Thanks for explaining it. The graphics on that tech note also make it 
pretty straightfoward to follow. :-)

I've recently got Warp 6 functioning on my IIGS with tcpser. One thing 
I'd like to solve is helping Warp6 detect a lost carrier. It's a bit 
mind-bending with the null in place, but I'm hopeful to trace out the 
lines and make a custom cable. 

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