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  New Youtube Videos of Conversions using Double Lo-Res "Minipix" "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-12 17:09 -0500
    Re: New Youtube Videos of Conversions using Double Lo-Res "Minipix" gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2015-05-18 18:40 -0700
      Re: New Youtube Videos of Conversions using Double Lo-Res "Minipix" "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> - 2015-05-18 22:26 -0400
      Re: New Youtube Videos of Conversions using Double Lo-Res "Minipix" "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-20 07:43 -0500
        Re: New Youtube Videos of Conversions using Double Lo-Res "Minipix" "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-05-20 08:40 -0500

#1653 — New Youtube Videos of Conversions using Double Lo-Res "Minipix"

Apple II Double Lo-Res Pixel-Art from "Mini-Pix" by Bmp2DHR (B2D)
https://youtu.be/zSUPn3_ev7M

The AWINDLO Apple II Double Lo-Res Titling Converter by Bill Buckels
https://youtu.be/F3zeRCUf_r8

Apple II Double Lo-Res "Minipix" in BASUC (AppleSoft Basic) - Converted by 
Bmp2LO
https://youtu.be/4u4VfYYVdms

Apple II Double Lo-Res "Min-Pix" Converted by Bmp2LO
https://youtu.be/vPQyjhWtn0c

These were colored in Windows paint.Using my Slideshow driver written in 
cc65 we can view old printshop, old printmaster and old minipix files in a 
glory never known when these were common-place and the Apple II was in wide 
use. For a copy of these on a real Apple II disk image along with other 
demos and stuff click here 
http://www.appleoldies.ca/bmp2dhr/disks/dlgr/Bmp2DHRandOtherDoubleLoresMinipix2015.zip
and for a list of related links visit the A2B web page links section at
http://www.appleoldies.ca/a2b/
and that will tell you where to go and get the converter that made these and 
other converters and source code for Apple II Graphics etc. that I have 
written. 

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#1661

On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 4:09:05 PM UTC-6, Bill Buckels wrote:
> Apple II Double Lo-Res Pixel-Art from "Mini-Pix" by Bmp2DHR (B2D)
> https://youtu.be/zSUPn3_ev7M
> 
> The AWINDLO Apple II Double Lo-Res Titling Converter by Bill Buckels
> https://youtu.be/F3zeRCUf_r8
> 
> Apple II Double Lo-Res "Minipix" in BASUC (AppleSoft Basic) - Converted by 
> Bmp2LO
> https://youtu.be/4u4VfYYVdms
> 
> Apple II Double Lo-Res "Min-Pix" Converted by Bmp2LO
> https://youtu.be/vPQyjhWtn0c
> 
> These were colored in Windows paint.Using my Slideshow driver written in 
> cc65 we can view old printshop, old printmaster and old minipix files in a 
> glory never known when these were common-place and the Apple II was in wide 
> use. For a copy of these on a real Apple II disk image along with other 
> demos and stuff click here 
> http://www.appleoldies.ca/bmp2dhr/disks/dlgr/Bmp2DHRandOtherDoubleLoresMinipix2015.zip
> and for a list of related links visit the A2B web page links section at
> http://www.appleoldies.ca/a2b/
> and that will tell you where to go and get the converter that made these and 
> other converters and source code for Apple II Graphics etc. that I have 
> written.


I was curious to see what kind of graphics could be done with double lo-res, and it started out really good.  Then all of sudden everyone got the measles.

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#1662

<gids.rs@sasktel.net> wrote in message 
news:30136761-ba3e-421a-9224-c3cb99fbe487@googlegroups.com...
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 4:09:05 PM UTC-6, Bill Buckels wrote:
>> Apple II Double Lo-Res Pixel-Art from "Mini-Pix" by Bmp2DHR (B2D)
>> https://youtu.be/zSUPn3_ev7M
>>
>> The AWINDLO Apple II Double Lo-Res Titling Converter by Bill Buckels
>> https://youtu.be/F3zeRCUf_r8
>>
>> Apple II Double Lo-Res "Minipix" in BASUC (AppleSoft Basic) - Converted 
>> by
>> Bmp2LO
>> https://youtu.be/4u4VfYYVdms
>>
>> Apple II Double Lo-Res "Min-Pix" Converted by Bmp2LO
>> https://youtu.be/vPQyjhWtn0c
>>
>> These were colored in Windows paint.Using my Slideshow driver written in
>> cc65 we can view old printshop, old printmaster and old minipix files in 
>> a
>> glory never known when these were common-place and the Apple II was in 
>> wide
>> use. For a copy of these on a real Apple II disk image along with other
>> demos and stuff click here
>> http://www.appleoldies.ca/bmp2dhr/disks/dlgr/Bmp2DHRandOtherDoubleLoresMinipix2015.zip
>> and for a list of related links visit the A2B web page links section at
>> http://www.appleoldies.ca/a2b/
>> and that will tell you where to go and get the converter that made these 
>> and
>> other converters and source code for Apple II Graphics etc. that I have
>> written.
>
>
> I was curious to see what kind of graphics could be done with double 
> lo-res,
> and it started out really good.  Then all of sudden everyone got the 
> measles.

That is what happens when you don't vaccinate.   LOL    8>)

Bill Garber - I love my
C1 D0 D0 CC C5 A0 C9 C9 C7 D3
http://www.sepa-electronics.com

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#1663

<gids.rs@sasktel.net> wrote:
>I was curious to see what kind of graphics could be done with double 
>lo-res, and it started out really good.  Then all of sudden everyone got 
>the measles.

Not sure what you mean but if you don't like the dithered output think of it 
as giving you a template to redraw the screen. You can also do much more 
with DLGR than simply displaying a BSAVE image, but like redrawing the 
screen, no magic converter will do this for you.

I could do alot more with Double Lo-Res but for a variety of reasons I 
parked it there for now. I think you need to consider that the average 
double lo-res user is not capable of using these converters to their current 
potential. There have been 3 cases recently that demonstrate this.

Despite that:

- The A2B converter produces Double Lo-Res Sprites and Game Backgrounds 
sveral screens in size.
- The B2D converter produces Double Lo-Res Screens for Mixed Text and 
Graphics as well as Full-Screens
- My Earlier converters which have been around a couple of years produce 
Fonts etc.

These are supported by library routines in Aztec C65 and cc65. All of this 
is documented. Demos are available.

I am making continual progress in conversions etc. in the other Apple II 
graphics modes and there are more people interested in that especially the 
IIGS SHR stuff, (and so am I), so unless somebody is generally going to do 
something with Double Lo-Res there won';t be any further development unless 
the mood strikes me.

The current state of development is that if someone wants to use a modern 
paint program to actually do some work, these converters of mine will 
provide them with Apple II graphics that they can use in an Apple II 
program, written preferably in C or Assembler from my view.

The examples that I have produced are simply to support the tools that I 
have written and not to entertain but to provide examples of test output. 
The joy for me is in the doing, what anyone else does is up to them. I 
realize that people don't have any more time or patience than I do, so I 
perfectly understand why these converters don't see any use. There are just 
there like anything else.

Bill

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#1664

"Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> wrote:
>if you don't like the dithered output think of it as giving you a template 
>to redraw the screen.

I have mentioned it many times before but I guess I'd better mention it 
again;

All of my converters provide post-conversion preview output that can be 
edited in a modern paint program and reprocessed until the user gets the 
results they want, within the limitations of the particular Apple II 
graphics mode that they have targeted.

I call this "round-trip editing".

Since these converters will compile and run on Windows, Linux, and OSX the 
only real limitation is the user. If a user cannot use a modern graphics 
editor to some degree of functional competency, and does not know how to 
type, then I perfectly understand that they will be presented with 
challenges that will require some skills development.

For the double lo-res converter, since I provide the world's largest 
collection of Mini-Pix in my clipshop utility, this makes an ideal starting 
point for someone who wants to learn about Apple II graphics. Demo disks 
with AppleSoft BASIC are also provided for the beginner, showing how to make 
a double lo-res file viewer and slide-show.

The activity that I expect is something like learning to walk; first a baby 
step is taken and the user learns how to prepare an image for conversion. 
Afterwards they learn to use disk management tools like CiderPress and 
emulators like AppleWin. They can use the slideshows provided in C to 
automatically set-up and display their own efforts. Beyond that 
progressively more advanced activities are supported; round-trip editing 
being one of these.

The use of Minipix as the basis for a starting exercise for learning about 
Double Lo-Res graphics is really quite novel but really very effective as a 
starting point. It's about as hard as crayoning in a coloring book with 12 
colors, and black and white and grey.

Provided the goal is to actually do something with converted bitmapped 
graphics in double lo-res of course. There's lots more that can be done and 
the excellent advanced demos far outshine what these converters have to 
offer, but not everyone can do those adavnced demos. I still contend that if 
a person writes in C they can advance pretty quickly from converting 
graphics to writing stuff that is as good as anything out there, advanced or 
not.

Bill 

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