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  Merlin's "PUT" Pseudo Op bpicchi@gmail.com - 2013-11-14 09:38 -0800
    Re: Merlin's "PUT" Pseudo Op aiiadict@gmail.com - 2013-11-14 10:30 -0800
      Re: Merlin's "PUT" Pseudo Op bpicchi@gmail.com - 2013-11-14 13:48 -0800
        Re: Merlin's "PUT" Pseudo Op "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2013-11-14 16:11 -0600
          Re: Merlin's "PUT" Pseudo Op "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2013-11-14 17:59 -0600
            Re: Merlin's "PUT" Pseudo Op bpicchi@gmail.com - 2013-11-14 16:22 -0800
              Re: Merlin's "PUT" Pseudo Op Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2013-11-14 20:03 -0600
                Re: Merlin's "PUT" Pseudo Op bpicchi@gmail.com - 2013-11-14 18:44 -0800
                  Re: Merlin's "PUT" Pseudo Op Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2013-11-15 12:27 -0600
                    Re: Merlin's "PUT" Pseudo Op "Anton Treuenfels" <teamtempest@yahoo.com> - 2013-11-15 17:40 -0600
    Re: Merlin's "PUT" Pseudo Op Benoit0123 <bgilon@free.fr> - 2013-11-14 22:25 +0000

#965 — Merlin's "PUT" Pseudo Op

My source is reaching HIMEM ($8000) and I need to break it up into 2 smaller source files.  I tested this out by taking a portion of it and saving it separately (called the file "intro" for now).  Then in the 2nd file I used the PUT opcode using the syntax "PUT Intro".  I get a message back saying file not found even though the file is present on the disk.  I tried saving the intro file in different formats (Intro.S, Intro as a text file, etc).  What's the secret to getting this to work.  I'm sure it's a simple newbie mistake with syntax.

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#966

On Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:38:55 AM UTC-8, bpi...@gmail.com wrote:
> My source is reaching HIMEM ($8000) and I need to break it up into 2 smaller source files.  I tested this out by taking a portion of it and saving it separately (called the file "intro" for now).  Then in the 2nd file I used the PUT opcode using the syntax "PUT Intro".  I get a message back saying file not found even though the file is present on the disk.  I tried saving the intro file in different formats (Intro.S, Intro as a text file, etc).  What's the secret to getting this to work.  I'm sure it's a simple newbie mistake with syntax.

it should work as you used it.

filename = INTRO

   PUT INTRO

make sure capital letters!

Rich

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#967

On Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:30:34 AM UTC-8, aiia...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:38:55 AM UTC-8, bpi...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > My source is reaching HIMEM ($8000) and I need to break it up into 2 smaller source files.  I tested this out by taking a portion of it and saving it separately (called the file "intro" for now).  Then in the 2nd file I used the PUT opcode using the syntax "PUT Intro".  I get a message back saying file not found even though the file is present on the disk.  I tried saving the intro file in different formats (Intro.S, Intro as a text file, etc).  What's the secret to getting this to work.  I'm sure it's a simple newbie mistake with syntax.
> 
> 
> 
> it should work as you used it.
> 
> 
> 
> filename = INTRO
> 
> 
> 
>    PUT INTRO
> 
> 
> 
> make sure capital letters!
> 
> 
> 
> Rich

OK, so I tried using Merlin to write the text file and when I do that, it finds the file just fine!  It appears to not accept text files I manually add using Ciderpress, even after changing the file type to txt.  Oh well, so long as it works this way, I'm content.

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#968

<bpicchi@gmail.com> wrote:
>It appears to not accept text files I manually add using Ciderpress, even 
>after changing the file type to txt.

Try saving your files in a mac ansi format before using ciderpress.

If you use textpad under windows just use the save-as menu option on the 
file menu and select mac ansi from the drop-down list.

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#970

"Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> wrote:
>Try saving your files in a mac ansi format before using ciderpress.

This won't work if you are using DOS 3.3. You need the hi-bits set in DOS 
3.3 text and you must not have carriage-return / linefeeds as eol in your 
text files... just carriage returns.

There's a DOS 3.3 commandline utility in the RAT called lotxt that will 
convert 7 bit ascii text files to dos 3.3 text files...

http://www.aztecmuseum.ca/extras/THERAT.zip

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#971

It looks like my previous post didn't go though.  That or it's really delayed.  Anyway, thanks for the info.  I'm using the DOS 3.3 version.  That book may have more info than the Merlin manual I was looking at so time to check that out as I stumbled on another issue.  After successfully splitting up the source in 2 parts, it assembles fine UNTIL I continued adding more code.  The HIMEM is still causing trouble as it says "Memory Full in line XX" where line XX is my PUT opcode. 

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#972

<bpicchi@gmail.com> wrote:
> It looks like my previous post didn't go though.  That or it's really
> delayed.  Anyway, thanks for the info.  I'm using the DOS 3.3 version. 
> That book may have more info than the Merlin manual I was looking at so
> time to check that out as I stumbled on another issue.  After
> successfully splitting up the source in 2 parts, it assembles fine UNTIL
> I continued adding more code.  The HIMEM is still causing trouble as it
> says "Memory Full in line XX" where line XX is my PUT opcode.

Try creating a tiny program that successively PUTs the two parts of the
program. 
-- 
-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon

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#973

On Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:03:24 PM UTC-8, mjm...@aol.com wrote:
> <bpicchi@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > It looks like my previous post didn't go though.  That or it's really
> 
> > delayed.  Anyway, thanks for the info.  I'm using the DOS 3.3 version. 
> 
> > That book may have more info than the Merlin manual I was looking at so
> 
> > time to check that out as I stumbled on another issue.  After
> 
> > successfully splitting up the source in 2 parts, it assembles fine UNTIL
> 
> > I continued adding more code.  The HIMEM is still causing trouble as it
> 
> > says "Memory Full in line XX" where line XX is my PUT opcode.
> 
> 
> 
> Try creating a tiny program that successively PUTs the two parts of the
> 
> program. 
> 
> -- 
> 
> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon

Michael, that did it!  Thanks!

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#978

<bpicchi@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:03:24 PM UTC-8, mjm...@aol.com wrote:
>> <bpicchi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> It looks like my previous post didn't go though.  That or it's really
>> 
>>> delayed.  Anyway, thanks for the info.  I'm using the DOS 3.3 version. 
>> 
>>> That book may have more info than the Merlin manual I was looking at so
>> 
>>> time to check that out as I stumbled on another issue.  After
>> 
>>> successfully splitting up the source in 2 parts, it assembles fine UNTIL
>> 
>>> I continued adding more code.  The HIMEM is still causing trouble as it
>> 
>>> says "Memory Full in line XX" where line XX is my PUT opcode.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Try creating a tiny program that successively PUTs the two parts of the
>> 
>> program. 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon
> 
> Michael, that did it!  Thanks!

You're welcome!

The reason it works is that the "main" program remains in memory and brings
in the PUT segments like overlays. 
-- 
-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon

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#979

"Michael J. Mahon" <mjmahon@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1031087641406231596.993137mjmahon-> The reason it works is that the 
"main" program remains in memory and brings
> in the PUT segments like overlays.
> -- 
> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon

Something else you might try, if you haven't already: running into that 
HIMEM limit with Merlin is what first caused me to learn how to use Merlin's 
macro facilities. My goal was to reduce some common code sequences to a 
single macro line. If a macro got used often enough to outweigh the size of 
its definition, it was a net win.

And it worked. For a while, anyway - eventually I had to learn to use PUT 
myself. But there are so many other advantages to using macros that it 
turned out to be time very well spent.

- Anton Treuenfels 

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#969

bpicchi wrote:
> My source is reaching HIMEM ($8000) and I need to break it up into 2
> smaller source files.  I tested this out by taking a portion of it and
> saving it separately (called the file "intro" for now).  Then in the 2nd
> file I used the PUT opcode using the syntax "PUT Intro".  I get a message
> back saying file not found even though the file is present on the disk.  I
> tried saving the intro file in different formats (Intro.S, Intro as a text
> file, etc).  What's the secret to getting this to work.  I'm sure it's a
> simple newbie mistake with syntax.
>
If you're using the DOS 3.3 version of Merlin, then
a) either the file should be named T.INTRO and be of text type so that the
PUT INTRO directive works or
b) the file should be named INTRO and be of text type and you should use the
directive PUT with an ! sign prefixing the name as in PUT !INTRO
Such PUT files are purely text files and can be created by using the Write
option from Merlin main menu.
Details are given on page 93 of Merlin 8/16 user guide.
HTHATS,
Benoit


-- 
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growing up is optional..
But the other way round is as true.

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