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  ProTERM alteration? ultramagnus_tcv <mikew@thecomputervalet.com> - 2016-08-08 14:00 -0500
    Re: ProTERM alteration? D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2016-08-08 19:20 +0000
      Re: ProTERM alteration? ultramagnus_tcv <mikew@thecomputervalet.com> - 2016-08-08 18:49 -0500
        Re: ProTERM alteration? Hugh Hood <hughhood@earthlink.net> - 2016-08-08 21:25 -0500

#2890 — ProTERM alteration?

I posted a version of this message to Facebook the other day, but it 
got little traction. I am curious if anyone here knows something more.

My basic question is this: Has the ProTERM source been released to 
attempt modifications?

Over in the Commodore world, the terminal program StrikeTerm (and 
Novaterm, I believe) allows one to populate the phone book with 
hostnames or IP addresses. In StrikeTerm, F5 will bring up the phone 
book and tapping a letter will cause StrikeTerm to "dial" the BBS via 
hostname. (e.g. atdt bbs.fozztexx.com) The hardware I use to connect to 
my home network provides the necessary firmware for TCP/IP connectivity.

Over the last few months, I've been using a combination of tcpser and 
ProTERM 3.2 on a //e to connect to telnet hosted BBSs. However, ProTERM 
can't dial via its internal phone book as StrikeTerm does. It seems as 
if ProTERM accepts storing an entry with an alphanumeric "phone 
number." But ProTERM never connects to a BBS dialed this way.

There are ways around this, of course. If you put ProTERM online and 
type "atdt hostname" at the terminal, you get connected just as easily. 
However, it would be nice to use the on-board phone book to store 
favorite BBSs and dial quickly.

I haven't done extensive testing. For instance, I assume that since 
ProTERM isn't managing a connection to a BBS "dialed" via the phonebook 
that it's not actually passing "atdt hostname" to tcpser. Flipping on 
the debug argument in tcpser would reveal what it's seeing. If ProTERM 
is passing the dial string correctly but asserting a "hang up" when it 
doesn't see a carrier, that would be another necessary alteration 
either in ProTERM or, perhaps, via tcpser's arguments.

I'm curious about any opinions here.

Cheers,

Mike Whalen 

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#2892

ultramagnus_tcv wrote:
> 
> My basic question is this: Has the ProTERM source been released to 
> attempt modifications?

Do you remember reading this post by Hugh Hood to csa2 earlier this year?
http://macgui.com/usenet/?group=1&id=280461

If I'm not mistaken, Jerry Cline is the man you should ask:
http://localbiziness.com/biz/pat--jerry-cline-ff135f844

-- 
]DF$
The Marina IP stack for Apple II--
http://marina.a2hq.com/

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#2894

On 2016-08-08 19:20:44 +0000, D Finnigan said:

> Do you remember reading this post by Hugh Hood to csa2 earlier this year?
> http://macgui.com/usenet/?group=1&id=280461


No, I didn't but I am not quite as a regular reader than most.

The good news is that there may be no modification needed. I realized 
that I had been playing it safe by using the Null Modem driver. The 
Dial items clearly didn't work with that. However, switching to the 
Hayes Smartmodem 2400 driver and removing the init string (not needed 
for tcpser) worked fine! There is one BBS that doesn't seem to work 
this way, but I am speaking to the Sysop about it.

m

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#2897

Mike,

I'm glad you figured it out.

When I saw your initial request yesterday, I supposed that it was 
probably just ProTERM's masking out of non-numeric characters entered 
for a dialing number in its 'phone book', and would be an easy 3 or 4 
byte patch.

But today I tried it with alpha characters and it accepted (and saved) 
them so I knew it would take a little bit more detective work inside the 
ProTERM code to see exactly what was going on.

Fortunately, you discovered that as long as you stay away from the Null 
Modem/Null Modem(RTS/CTS) drivers, it _will_ send whatever you put in 
the 'phone number' field.

I'll make a note for future reference.

Thanks.





Hugh Hood

On 8/8/2016 6:49 PM, ultramagnus_tcv wrote:
> On 2016-08-08 19:20:44 +0000, D Finnigan said:
>
>> Do you remember reading this post by Hugh Hood to csa2 earlier this year?
>> http://macgui.com/usenet/?group=1&id=280461
>
>
> No, I didn't but I am not quite as a regular reader than most.
>
> The good news is that there may be no modification needed. I realized
> that I had been playing it safe by using the Null Modem driver. The Dial
> items clearly didn't work with that. However, switching to the Hayes
> Smartmodem 2400 driver and removing the init string (not needed for
> tcpser) worked fine! There is one BBS that doesn't seem to work this
> way, but I am speaking to the Sysop about it.
>
> m
>

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