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  Marina Technical Library D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2015-04-24 19:26 +0000
    Re: Marina Technical Library ol.sc@web.de (Oliver Schmidt) - 2015-04-24 20:14 +0000
      Re: Marina Technical Library "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> - 2015-04-24 16:31 -0400
        Re: Marina Technical Library ol.sc@web.de (Oliver Schmidt) - 2015-04-25 09:21 +0000
          Re: Marina Technical Library "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> - 2015-04-25 12:16 -0400
      Re: Marina Technical Library D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2015-04-26 17:18 +0000

#1617 — Marina Technical Library

I've just updated the Marina web site with some more documentation-- this
time intended for the programming set. The URL is
http://marina.a2hq.com/mtl/

and there's also a link to it on the Marina home page, right under the
User's Manual download.

Right now it's just a big list of RFCs that I'm using to build Marina. My
own notes are listed, but there's no links to them yet until I get them all
organized.

Source code release is coming as soon as I get the DNS resolver finished,
which is about 75% complete. I've also fixed more bugs and completed more
sections of code for better RFC compliance.

Following this release I plan to start on an &ampersand interface for UDP so
that the thing can be used from Applesoft BASIC. That's been another dream
of mine, actually when I first asked Glenn Jones about the Uthernet, a BASIC
interface is one of the things we discussed.

I think aiiaddict has the right idea in coming up with games for this. They
sure make better demonstration apps than a tcpdump thing! Gaming is the
direction that I want to take with Marina. I don't think we have any
Internet games so far, am I wrong?

-- 
]DF$
The Marina IP stack for Apple II--
http://marina.a2hq.com/

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#1618

Hi Dave,

>I don't think we have any Internet games so far, am I wrong?

I'm not sure if you are aware that there are a few things for the C64:


Artillery Duel Network
http://csdb.dk/release/?id=45526

NetRacer
http://csdb.dk/release/?id=67873

Vortex 2
http://www.slideshare.net/leifbloomquist1/new-commodore-64-netwo

Conceptually it would be possible to re-implement NetRacer on the
Apple2 and multi-play together with C64s :-)

Regards,
Oliver

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#1619

"Oliver Schmidt" <ol.sc@web.de> wrote in message 
news:mhe879$ftu$1@news.albasani.net... 
> Hi Dave, 
> 
>> I don't think we have any Internet games so far, 
>> am I wrong? 
> 
> I'm not sure if you are aware that there are a 
> few things for the C64: 
> 
> Artillery Duel Network 
> http://csdb.dk/release/?id=45526 
> 
> NetRacer 
> http://csdb.dk/release/?id=67873 
> 
> Vortex 2 
> http://www.slideshare.net/leifbloomquist1/new-commodore-64-netwo 
> 
> Conceptually it would be possible to re-implement 
> NetRacer on the Apple2 and multi-play together 
> with C64s :-) 
> 
> Regards, 
> Oliver 

It would be excellent to bring some of the vintage computers 
together into one project.  I see that there may be an adapter 
to allow the Carte Blanche II to be used on the C64, and since 
I am getting 3 of those, I may as well get that adapter, too, 
and use one of them on one of my C64's. I was going to design 
something to allow some Apple II slot cards to work in one or 
more of the Atari 8-bits.  This may be the incentive I need. 

Bill Garber - I love my 
C1 D0 D0 CC C5 A0 C9 C9 C7 D3 
http://www.sepa-electronics.com 

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#1620

Hi Bill,

>It would be excellent to bring some of the vintage computers 
>together into one project.

Yep! While in former times I was only into the Apple II now my retro
activities include the CBMs and Ataris too. My primary projects cc65,
'Contiki for Retro-Computing' and IP65 are all "cross traget". However
so far those machines are usually not avtually connected to each
other.

>I was going to design 
>something to allow some Apple II slot cards to work in one or 
>more of the Atari 8-bits.

It would be great if you drop me a pm if you actually do so. Both
Contiki and IP65 work nicely on the Atari (and cc65 by now has nice
support for the Atari XL RAM) with an http://www.atari8ethernet.com/
cart. But those were only available for a short time so it would be
interesting to be able to use an Uthernet / Uthernet II on the Atari.

Or maybe you would be be interested to create an Atari cart with a
WIZnet W5100 chip. I'm for sure no hardware guy but I've read people
stating that it wouldn't be exactly rocket science using a breakout
board like the https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9473 ...

Regards,
Oliver

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#1621

"Oliver Schmidt" <ol.sc@web.de> wrote in message 
news:mhfmc7$6cc$1@news.albasani.net... 
> Hi Bill,
> 
>> It would be excellent to bring some of the vintage 
>> computers together into one project. 
> 
> Yep! While in former times I was only into the Apple II 
> now my retro activities include the CBMs and Ataris too. 
> My primary projects cc65, 'Contiki for Retro-Computing' 
> and IP65 are all "cross traget". However so far those 
> machines are usually not actually connected to each other. 

Way back when, I was only into the Atari computers and 
game systems. I wish I had selected the Apple II then, 
but I have no regrets. 

>> I was going to design something to allow some Apple II 
>> slot cards to work in one or more of the Atari 8-bits. 
> 
> It would be great if you drop me a pm if you actually do 
> so. Both Contiki and IP65 work nicely on the Atari (and 
> cc65 by now has nice support for the Atari XL RAM) with 
> an http://www.atari8ethernet.com/ cart. But those were 
> only available for a short time so it would be interesting 
> to be able to use an Uthernet / Uthernet II on the Atari. 

That is a nice cart.  Have you seen the IDE hard drive cart? 

> Or maybe you would be be interested to create an Atari 
> cart with a WIZnet W5100 chip. I'm for sure no hardware 
> guy but I've read people stating that it wouldn't be 
> exactly rocket science using a breakout board like the 
> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9473 ... 

Well, I have quite a bit on my plate right now, but that 
does sound like something I might want to try at some point. 
By the way, that board is out of stock at most vendors. 
It is a very popular board. 

Bill Garber - I love my 
C1 D0 D0 CC C5 A0 C9 C9 C7 D3 
http://www.sepa-electronics.com 

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#1622

Oliver Schmidt wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
>>I don't think we have any Internet games so far, am I wrong?
> 
> I'm not sure if you are aware that there are a few things for the C64:

No, because I live in a cave with an Apple logo over the entrance! :-)
Thanks for letting me know.

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