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LightCycles 3D source released

Started byDavid Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com>
First post2017-04-10 11:36 -0700
Last post2017-04-17 08:32 -0700
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  LightCycles 3D source released David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 11:36 -0700
    Re: LightCycles 3D source released Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2017-04-10 13:54 -0500
      Re: LightCycles 3D source released Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> - 2017-04-10 15:54 -0400
      Re: LightCycles 3D source released David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 13:31 -0700
        Re: LightCycles 3D source released Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2017-04-10 17:49 -0500
          Re: LightCycles 3D source released David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 21:38 -0700
            Re: LightCycles 3D source released Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2017-04-11 01:54 -0500
    Re: LightCycles 3D source released qkumba <peter.ferrie@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 13:02 -0700
      Re: LightCycles 3D source released BLuRry <brendan.robert@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 16:51 -0700
        Re: LightCycles 3D source released David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 19:18 -0700
          Re: LightCycles 3D source released laseractiveguy@gmail.com - 2017-04-15 13:45 -0700
            Re: LightCycles 3D source released David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 16:46 -0700
    Re: LightCycles 3D source released TomCh <tomcharlesworth26@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:16 -0700
      Re: LightCycles 3D source released David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:32 -0700

#3411 — LightCycles 3D source released

FromDavid Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-10 11:36 -0700
SubjectLightCycles 3D source released
Message-ID<b26b8c30-5a15-4a36-89d3-cda9e7a809de@googlegroups.com>
The original developer has granted permission to post the source code for the game! I've updated the source to be compatible with modern tools for building in current environments - who still has a working PDP-10?

https://github.com/dschmenk/LightCycles

Dave...

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#3412

FromMichael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com>
Date2017-04-10 13:54 -0500
Message-ID<7rGdnUrdNOh8SXbFnZ2dnUU7-cnNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#3411
David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> The original developer has granted permission to post the source code for
> the game! I've updated the source to be compatible with modern tools for
> building in current environments - who still has a working PDP-10?
> 
> https://github.com/dschmenk/LightCycles
> 
> Dave...
> 

I'll bet there's a PDP-10 emulator that runs on a Raspberry Pi...  ;-)

-- 
-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II:  http://michaeljmahon.com

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#3413

FromSteve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co>
Date2017-04-10 15:54 -0400
Message-ID<alpine.BSF.2.02.1704101553180.2332@frieza.hoshinet.org>
In reply to#3412
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017, Michael J. Mahon wrote:

> David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The original developer has granted permission to post the source code for
>> the game! I've updated the source to be compatible with modern tools for
>> building in current environments - who still has a working PDP-10?
>>
>> https://github.com/dschmenk/LightCycles
>>
>> Dave...
>>
>
> I'll bet there's a PDP-10 emulator that runs on a Raspberry Pi...  ;-)

I guess simh may fit that bill?  Dunno about PDP10 and RasPi but I don't 
see why it shouldn't...

-uso.

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#3414

FromDavid Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-10 13:31 -0700
Message-ID<3fb047cb-268d-4490-8971-1b3760bbd057@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3412
On Monday, 10 April 2017 11:54:31 UTC-7, mjm...@aol.com  wrote:
> David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The original developer has granted permission to post the source code for
> > the game! I've updated the source to be compatible with modern tools for
> > building in current environments - who still has a working PDP-10?
> > 
> > https://github.com/dschmenk/LightCycles
> > 
> > Dave...
> > 
> 
> I'll bet there's a PDP-10 emulator that runs on a Raspberry Pi...  ;-)
> 
> -- 
> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II:  http://michaeljmahon.com

But those paper tape readers!

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#3415

FromMichael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com>
Date2017-04-10 17:49 -0500
Message-ID<esCdnXMlsItmlnHFnZ2dnUU7-LfNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#3414
David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, 10 April 2017 11:54:31 UTC-7, mjm...@aol.com  wrote:
>> David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The original developer has granted permission to post the source code for
>>> the game! I've updated the source to be compatible with modern tools for
>>> building in current environments - who still has a working PDP-10?
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/dschmenk/LightCycles
>>> 
>>> Dave...
>>> 
>> 
>> I'll bet there's a PDP-10 emulator that runs on a Raspberry Pi...  ;-)
>> 
>> -- 
>> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II:  http://michaeljmahon.com
> 
> But those paper tape readers!
> 
Sounds just like a text file...

(In fact, I've been using such files for "paper tapes" in my Burroughs 220
emulator, though I process them into B220 word-oriented binary files for
simplicity.)

-- 
-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II:  http://michaeljmahon.com

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#3416

FromDavid Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-10 21:38 -0700
Message-ID<0938140d-a798-424d-88ea-8bca185acd99@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3415
On Monday, 10 April 2017 15:49:36 UTC-7, mjm...@aol.com  wrote:
> David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, 10 April 2017 11:54:31 UTC-7, mjm...@aol.com  wrote:
> >> David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> The original developer has granted permission to post the source code for
> >>> the game! I've updated the source to be compatible with modern tools for
> >>> building in current environments - who still has a working PDP-10?
> >>> 
> >>> https://github.com/dschmenk/LightCycles
> >>> 
> >>> Dave...
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> I'll bet there's a PDP-10 emulator that runs on a Raspberry Pi...  ;-)
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II:  http://michaeljmahon.com
> > 
> > But those paper tape readers!
> > 
> Sounds just like a text file...
> 
> (In fact, I've been using such files for "paper tapes" in my Burroughs 220
> emulator, though I process them into B220 word-oriented binary files for
> simplicity.)
> 
> -- 
> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II:  http://michaeljmahon.com

So are you coming to VCF West to show it off?

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#3417

FromMichael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com>
Date2017-04-11 01:54 -0500
Message-ID<QtKdnZIDkshf4HHFnZ2dnUU7-cPNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#3416
David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, 10 April 2017 15:49:36 UTC-7, mjm...@aol.com  wrote:
>> David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, 10 April 2017 11:54:31 UTC-7, mjm...@aol.com  wrote:
>>>> David Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> The original developer has granted permission to post the source code for
>>>>> the game! I've updated the source to be compatible with modern tools for
>>>>> building in current environments - who still has a working PDP-10?
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://github.com/dschmenk/LightCycles
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave...
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'll bet there's a PDP-10 emulator that runs on a Raspberry Pi...  ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II:  http://michaeljmahon.com
>>> 
>>> But those paper tape readers!
>>> 
>> Sounds just like a text file...
>> 
>> (In fact, I've been using such files for "paper tapes" in my Burroughs 220
>> emulator, though I process them into B220 word-oriented binary files for
>> simplicity.)
>> 
>> -- 
>> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II:  http://michaeljmahon.com
> 
> So are you coming to VCF West to show it off?
> 

Still thinking about it... ;-)

-- 
-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II:  http://michaeljmahon.com

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#3418

Fromqkumba <peter.ferrie@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-11 13:02 -0700
Message-ID<b18ee767-28a8-4215-ae07-6c6b5a5a2778@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3411
On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 11:36:38 AM UTC-7, David Schmenk wrote:
> The original developer has granted permission to post the source code for the game! I've updated the source to be compatible with modern tools for building in current environments - who still has a working PDP-10?

Ohhh, the illusion is broken by the 80-column references in 1977 code.

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#3420

FromBLuRry <brendan.robert@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-11 16:51 -0700
Message-ID<b5cfdbca-94eb-4212-98e7-94dc4e28cbba@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3418
Videx, surely. 😎

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#3422

FromDavid Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-11 19:18 -0700
Message-ID<68981abd-2cf3-4bd0-ac16-2e00b36e59bc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3420
Did y'all miss this? "I've updated the source to be compatible with modern tools for building in current environments". So clearly I addd a little code for initializing the hardware and ProDOS BYE processing. I suppose I should add lower case support, too. Then DLRG. You're killing' me.

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#3423

Fromlaseractiveguy@gmail.com
Date2017-04-15 13:45 -0700
Message-ID<e9d9fdbe-aced-417c-aa59-08bc0dd9a06e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3422
On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 10:18:43 PM UTC-4, David Schmenk wrote:
 Then DLRG. You're killing' me.

I've got a DLRG library that would make porting easy... I just don't know how you would handle the extra screen space...

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#3424

FromDavid Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-15 16:46 -0700
Message-ID<d558cc8b-57c0-459f-aaf0-9431d120df96@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3423
On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 1:45:07 PM UTC-7, laserac...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 10:18:43 PM UTC-4, David Schmenk wrote:
>  Then DLRG. You're killing' me.
> 
> I've got a DLRG library that would make porting easy... I just don't know how you would handle the extra screen space...

Going DLRG would probably slow the frame rate down too much. I think it's barely fast enough now. But, thanks for the offer. Have a go at it if you're up for the challenge!

Dave...

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#3426

FromTomCh <tomcharlesworth26@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-17 08:16 -0700
Message-ID<e70dad7d-2aa4-4c01-b2f5-e952ec5510af@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3411
On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 7:36:38 PM UTC+1, David Schmenk wrote:
> The original developer has granted permission to post the source code for the game! I've updated the source to be compatible with modern tools for building in current environments - who still has a working PDP-10?
> 
> https://github.com/dschmenk/LightCycles
> 
> Dave...

Dave,

If you were to write this today :) then what development environment & tools would you use to assist this development?

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#3427

FromDavid Schmenk <dschmenk@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-17 08:32 -0700
Message-ID<2942a831-109b-4993-a7d5-607c0f76613d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#3426
On Monday, 17 April 2017 08:16:22 UTC-7, TomCh  wrote:
> On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 7:36:38 PM UTC+1, David Schmenk wrote:
> > The original developer has granted permission to post the source code for the game! I've updated the source to be compatible with modern tools for building in current environments - who still has a working PDP-10?
> > 
> > https://github.com/dschmenk/LightCycles
> > 
> > Dave...
> 
> Dave,
> 
> If you were to write this today :) then what development environment & tools would you use to assist this development?

I'd go with Python - the modern equivalent to Basic in my eyes: https://github.com/dschmenk/LightCycles/tree/master/utils

Probably use it to get the projection calculations just right, then spit out the pre-calculated table of values in 6502 assembly format. But that would what *I* would do today ;-)

Dave...

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